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The foreign forces are perhpas used to such threats so they will handle the situation effectively and bring peace and prosperity in the region ! Dream On !

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Karzai made the unusual statement at a closed-door meeting Saturday with selected lawmakers...

And I assume it wasn't one of Karzai's friends who released this statement, framed in this way, to the press...

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Karzai's ability to govern Afghanistan is really dogged by issues in the past-- graft and corruption in particular, and the fact that the US wants him to work out a panacea for the country's unrest. That he is seriously considering the Taliban as an alternative is reflective of the relations between his gov't and the west.

The important question right now is, who's not listening?!

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I thought he was already in their pocket.....Hm do I smell a car accident in the works or maybe a heart attack?LOL The Karzai health clock is ticking very quickly..

Maybe we can start a poll and ask how long till he is found dead?

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I thought he was already in their pocket.....Hm do I smell a car accident in the works or maybe a heart attack?LOL The Karzai health clock is ticking very quickly..

Maybe we can start a poll and ask how long till he is found dead?

The White House spun it as 'troubling' not 'painful'... perhaps they may still need Karzai afterall.

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ok - now we see the true colors of the man the west has put so much faith (and pressure) on to serve their interests... this place has always been the graveyard of foreign invaders and will be so for the US and its allies..

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As he did with Netanyahu, President Obama may have rubbed Karzai the wrong way couple of weeks ago. Karzai's behaviour appears to be a common reaction to whatever indignity Obama imposed on him is my guess.

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Karzai has been pissing me off for some time.

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The old saying goes "don't sh$t where you eat!" I think Karzai just took a massive dump on the dinner plate! He needs to remember the same bombs that put him into office can take him out.

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As he did with Netanyahu, President Obama may have rubbed Karzai the wrong way couple of weeks ago.

Explain why the comparison?

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A rather bold declaration from an American puppet. He has some quality that our own government has been desperately lacking for the last 50 years.

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This guy is making his own nightmares come true. He's a paranoid freak.

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This is insane! Karzai is our ally?! haha. Afghanistan is so messed up.

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let him join the Taliban. Why try to work it out with him?

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I fully understand Karzai´s position. He is trying to unify the country where as USA is not only trying to divide and conquer in order to make Afghanistan a colony for geo political interests. According to General McChrystal.We've Shot An "Amazing Number Of People" Who Were Not Threats

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/mcchrystal-weve-shot-an-a_n_523749.html

You have to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people, but when USA and it´s allies keep shooting at school buses and old women you will more often than not alienate people. No one likes to be occupied by a foreign force. Just ask the Chinese or Europeans or Africans etc. When the foreign force is worse than the so-called terrorists even a partner like Karzai gets upset.

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Karzai was one of the original founders of the Taliban.

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he will either 1.join with the taliban, 2.get kill by the taliban or 3.flee the country because of the taliban, after the international security force leave his country. soon or later it will happen. why wasting time and money there.

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Sarge said: Karzai has been pissing me off for some time.

I think the U.S. has been pissing him off for some time!

Don't worry, I am sure SOMEBODY in Afghanistan still wants the U.S. Man, as if Vietnam was not bad enough, the U.S. had to go and make Russia's Vietnamn their own Vietnam Part 2!

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Karzai was one of the original founders of the Taliban.

It seemed like a great idea, back in the '80s to embolden and train and equip Taliban, mujahidin, jihadists against the Soviet Union, which had invaded Afghanistan. And with our help and with the Pakistani support-- this group-- including, at that time, Bin Laden, defeated the Soviet Union. Drove them out of Afghanistan, eventually.

Hillary Clinton

Not only does USA have any shred of evidence that it was bin Laden responsible for 9/11 but the US government supported and funded the Taliban up until 9/11 2001. The reason for the invasion was not to eliminate Taliban, Al-Qaeda or smoking Osama out of his cave “dead or alive” and such as. Its about destabalizing the entire region from Iran to China in order to colonize Pakistan and, Afghanistan and other central Asian states. One of the reasons to this is due to the enormous amount of natural resources found in the Caspian region. US has in the past for whatever reason colonized countries in Latin America by over throwing democratic leaders and installed fascist dictators and build up a ruthless police force specializing in tortures and terrorism. USA did this in Iran too. US is carrying on in fine American tradition in terrorising people for colonial interests. This is what I believe and the majority of the people in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Why bother spending billions of dollars on phony wars when US is already bankrupt?

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LOL! Obamas Afghanistan policy is working out splendidly, isn´t it.

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Obama should have kept his campaign promise and left a year ago.

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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

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SuperLib said: Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

Was that directed at Karzai or the U.S.?

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let's take him out now before he screws up everything.

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Why did Bush give his blessing to Karzai in the first place?

Did Bush kiss Karzai on the cheek, too?

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Did Bush kiss Karzai on the cheek, too?

Both Bush and Clinton kissed Karzai´s cheek.

When the 9/11 attack occurred, it had nothing to do with Afghanistan. Taliban asked USA to provide evidence so that they could try Bin Laden in a 3rd country. To this day USA has not been able to provide an shred of evidence that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. The Bush administration used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Afghanistan a plan which was already made before 9/11. 9/11 just gave them a good excuse. Before the invasion, Washington granted an aid package of 43 million dollars to the Taliban regime within the framework of the Unocal pipeline project. But when Taliban refused as it did not want foreign multi national companies in their country USA invaded.

Former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright welcomed Taliban as a “positive step”. Former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto summed the whole Taliban story up this way: “The idea was English, the financing was Saudi, the supervision was Pakistani and the arming was American”.

The irony of the war is that the growing production of opium in Afghanistan has more than 3,000% increased since the fall of the Taliban regime. The U.S. State Department has then accused the Taliban of using drugs to finance the resistance. the truth of the matter is that, this drug production comes from the U.S. backed war lords and the American intelligence service, which utilizes it as an income-generating fund, bringing the drug to the Western countries, selling it at a market price and then using this money to finance their wars.

http://www.michelcollon.info/index.php?access=MICHEL_COLLON&option=com_content&Itemid=2

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well, as the old saying goes, if you can't beat them join them and since the very first day of this war, the US decided not to fight it correctly and it looks after all this time, we are losing. Maybe we should walk with Karzai

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HeyLars: Was that directed at Karzai or the U.S.?

Both you and Kazari.

SushiSake: Why did Bush give his blessing to Karzai in the first place?

Troll.

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Why did Bush give his blessing to Karzai in the first place?

Why did Bush do anything? Bad advice maybe? And why would you expect a government of thugs to succeed?

If Karzai joined the Talibs I expect he would last a week - or until he was no longer useful to them.

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"LOL! Obamas Afghanistan policy is working out splendidly, isn´t it."

One would have to be pretty clue-less to blame this on Obama.

You do realize Unocal's Yes man was installed by Bush Co, dontcha willi?

I guess Karzai strangely doesn't fit your sharia conspiracy today....

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al-Qaeda was a US proxy used against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan following the 1979 invasion. In the 1990s, the US supported Osama bin Laden, while at the same time placing him on its so-called “most wanted list of terrorists”. Today, al-Qaeda is a card played when it serves American interests. Both Obama and Bush is guilty of spreading lies.

I have earlier in this thread pointed out that Bin Laden has never claimed responsibility for 9/11 and USA has never come with any evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11. If you go to FBI´s web page you can see that Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11.

We were told that Taliban was responsible of harboring terrorists therefore USA invaded Afghanistan however on September 10th according to CBS, Bin Laden checked into a military hospital in Pakistan. USA´s allies. In other words, Osama's whereabouts were known to US officials on the morning of September 12th. Earlier the same year Bin Laden checked into an American hospital in Dubai due to health issues. This at a time when he was one of the most wanted peoples in the world due to the Embassy bombings in eastern Africa.

Having this background info it should be obvious that the so-called reasons for this war are not real reasons. The US led war on Afghanistan, using 9/11 as a pretext and a justification is a lie.

When people across the US and around the World find out that Al Qaeda is not an outside enemy but a creation of US foreign policy and the CIA, the legitimacy of the bipartisan war agenda will tumble like a deck of cards."

http://globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/truth911.html

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"You do realize Unocal's Yes man as installed by Bush Co, dontcha"

You do realize that thanks to Bush Co, Afghanistan had free elections, dontcha? Karzai was no more installed than Obama was. He was elected.

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You do realize that thanks to Bush Co, Afghanistan had free elections, dontcha? Karzai was no more installed than Obama was. He was elected.

The so-called free elections took place under a foreign military occupation so I would not put too much emphasis on the elections. It is rather seen as to prop up a puppet government. If Afghanistan is free from foreign military occupation then elections will have some kind of legitimacy.

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"The so-called free elections took place under a foreign military occupation so I would not put too much emphasis on the elections. "

Certainly not the last elections they hel, and especially not when Karzai is trying to consoldate his power by basicaly taking over the electoral process by naming himself the people in charge.

Even a child should be able to grasp this simple premise.

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"The so-called free elections took place under a foreign military occupation"

Yeah, but since the foreign military occupation was led by the U.S., they were free and fair. Heck, even the U.N. said they were free and fair.

Japan's first post-war elections were held under a "foreign military occupation" too. They weren't free and fair?

Even a child should be able to grasp this.

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Karzai's comments already has him half way over the wall to the Taliban side. Why do we allow him to have his position when he thinks he can't make a difference.

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The 2009 presidential election in Afghanistan was characterized by lack of security, low voter turnout and widespread ballot stuffing, intimidation, and other electoral fraud.

Doesn't sound free and fair to me.

And now Karzai's secretly releasing Taliban commanders, after being equally clement to drug lords and rapists?

Once again sarge, I'd hate to see what you call a failure....

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