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Airlines caving to Beijing on Taiwan despite White House protest

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That’s a shame, because, as history has shown, when all and sundry say ‘No’ to the bully, the playground is ours, not theirs.

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It will always be Taiwan to me. Such an amazing country with amazing people. I worry for their future.

That said, such a shame White House staffers most likely haven't read Orwell. Or if they have, they might want to look a bit closer to home when it comes to such throwaway remarks.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

The world desperately needs to start confronting the commie Chinese govt on its BS!

The western world helped create the monster that China has become, the sooner we start to confront it the less it will cost to put it down & out of the worlds collective misery.

Note, I have no beef with Chinese people, NONE, just their nasty overlords!

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Fly EVA Airlines. They are Taiwan-owned and aren't obliged to take part in this Orwellian nonsense. And they have the Hello Kitty face festooned over all their planes, both interior and exterior.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

To me, it'll always be TAIWAN.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

I rushed to check the site of my favorite airline, ANA, and Mainland China, Hong Kong / Macau, and Taiwan were clearly separated. Good

9 ( +9 / -0 )

I’ll say, Taiwan and independence and dare anyone to shut me up. So absurd!

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Free and democratic TAIWAN will never be part of Communist China.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

Hey, cool. Xi is taking a twitter page from the Head Cheeto of the US and going with China First and Make China Great Again. While the US is bullying its allies and others, China, with the money, market, purchasing power, labor advantage, and economic influence is well on it’s way to ruling the world. Again.

As the US, under what’s-his-name, shouts “It’s Taiwan!” and sinks lower in the swamp.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

borscht,

Spot on!

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Perhaps the U.S. should consider banning Chinese airlines that insist on referring to Taiwan as ruled by Beijing.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

"such a shame White House staffers most likely haven't read Orwell. Or if they have, they might want to look a bit closer to home when it comes to such throwaway remarks."

Or, they could just kowtow to China like everyone else.

"As the US, under what’s-his-name, shouts “It’s Taiwan!” and sinks lower in the swamp."

Nah, we're going to continue draining the swamp. It takes time.

"Free and democratic TAIWAN will never be part of Communist China."

It might be if the U.S. does not defend Taiwan in the event of an invasion by the communists.

-7 ( +0 / -7 )

"White House's call this month to stand firm against such "Orwellian nonsense."

Never thought I'd agree with any statement from this admin but, while SMH at the irony of them using the term Orwellian to describe others, yes.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

DPP has done nothing to make Taiwan prosperous. It is KMT who completed the process to make what Taiwan is today. But it is also KMT who fails to stop the so called independence movement. KMT owes Chinese people an apology for failed policies in unifying the country.

-12 ( +0 / -12 )

Taiwan is an independent country as Mainland China has absolutely no jurisdiction within the island. I'm not against reunification as such, but that ultimately depends on the Taiwanese themselves, and I sure as hell wouldn't want the CCP rule over a united China. They're not doing a good job with Hong Kong.

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Beijing's current government is the oppressive government.  Beijing refuses to honestly listen to it's own people.  That is what a true democracy is.  Tiananmen Square was the first time the people protested because they wanted a true movement towards democracy (so they could be heard about how they wanted to live their lives), and the government showed it was willing to kill it's own citizens (Assad in Syria did the same thing hint hint).

Then they tried to silence the Cantonese in Hong Kong when there were protests to protect their democratic rights (which the people of Hong Kong definitely wanted to maintain) after the handover from Britain.

The CCP doesn't do what's best for it's own people, it expects the people to do what's "best" for the CCP to maintain it's authoritarian power for that small group of rich/well connected individuals who are only interested in taking care of themselves (cough Xi cough).  All the CCP represents is that small group of people in "power" who demand the citizens of China do what the CCP says and denies them rights in a country of over 1.5 billion people.   The CCP attempts to say  everything it does is "right" and laughably expects everyone to believe it's "for the good of the people".   Pretty much the CCP's expectation is "The government is always right!" even when they're obviously not.

Any "government" that murders or disenfranchises it's own people because the average citizens demand the right to properly choose who leads the country is not a good government.   If the PLA truly had honorable commanders it's own brain they would understand a military is not to be used  against it's own citizens who That is NOT how a government that is supposed to PROTECT and SUPPORT it's people should perceive their responsibilities.

Since everything goes over the CCP propagandists head, here is a very simple measure of if a government is taking care of it's people.    How happy are the people with their quality of life?  Do they feel respected by their government or do they really feel oppressed by their government?   Do the people want to be able to think and decide for themselves  or only be told what to think and believe by the CCP?  Even I know the answer to that one...

Reminds me of when a young woman visited the US from China and said how much she felt the freedom of democratic society, and China's government and some of the people said she was insulting her own country.   They couldn't understand that she wasn't insulting China, she was pretty much announcing that the Chinese government was restricting and suffocating it's own society because of how it functions by expecting it's citizens to be able to develop and grow in a small box of authoritarian rules.

The only one's who say nobody else has freedom to choose how to live their lives comfortably or who leads them are only human beings who desire power and control over other human beings (cough Assad+Xi+Putin+Trump+Kim+etc cough).   And obviously not a single human being has the right to do deny certain peaceful freedoms from other human beings just because they themselves want to.

Freedom of speech/expression is very much a real basic human right.  Not even the CCP can prevent a human being from thinking their own thoughts (which can easily translate to speech/expression).

And attempting to brainwash with propaganda isn't going to work on everyone.  Golden rule for the "leadership" of the CCP, "Treat others as you would have yourself treated".

And that rule shows the CCP wants someone to control them with authoritarian dictate.

Only fools desire such things.

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The HonestDictator wants to dictate what we should and could think again. If China is so bad, why does China is the most rapidly develop country not only on the earth but also on the whole planet ? Are Chinese happy ? probably not, because Taiwan is still not liberated yet.

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

How about mapmakers call Chinese mainland Taiwan? That'll make China think...before bullying again.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

juminRhee, who is bullying ? DPP participated an election defined by the constitution, sworn in to protect the constitution, yet disregarding the constitution, worse, they even wanted to change the constitution. DPP can say what they want, but if they don't like Taiwan, they can leave as well. They have the full freedom to leave, no one can and will stop them. They can go to Japan do separate Tokyo, they have the freedom to do so.

-9 ( +0 / -9 )

The danger is that China knows Trump will suffer long-term losses for short-term, headline grabbing victories.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

I'm all for self-determination. Microstates can work as long as we have economic and defence orgs.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Go Taiwan!

9 ( +9 / -0 )

If Taiwan owned Nuclear weapons and then it will be sorted the problem out.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

The Beijing government can easily intimidate corporate entities because corporations only care about money and profit. As it's shown they're very easy to buy or coerce for the almighty yuan.

The HonestDictator wants to dictate what we should and could think again. If China is so bad, why does China is the most rapidly develop country not only on the earth but also on the whole planet ? Are Chinese happy ? probably not, because Taiwan is still not liberated yet.

Nobody is dictating anything to Taiwan except Beijing. I'm just stating my perspective from what I see happening and a lot people around the world just happen to agree that what China's government is doing is wrong and aggressive. The people of Taiwan are making their own choices and Taiwan's current ruling government is making sure they keep that possible.

And if you actually asked a citizen of Taiwan if they want to be "liberated" by Beijing's current government their answer would be a resounding "NO". Also "liberating" Taiwan from itself wouldn't make the average Chinese citizen happy in the slightest, but it certainly would make the authoritarian CCP ecstatic. Notice how "happy" it made the Cantonese... hahaha! Had to stifle their democratic protests against Beijing installing it's own cronies instead of what Hong Kong citizens wanted to choose for themselves. "Liberating" people from their ability to choose what direction they want to lead in their government is not liberating at all. It's exactly the opposite, and known as oppression.

If Beijing's government was so great and fantastic as it is now, Taiwan would have joined peacefully a long time ago. But they still don't want to because the people of Taiwan don't want to.

There is a saying, "If it was NOT given to you as a gift of trust through the will of the people who want to give it to you, it doesn't belong to you." And the CCP expects to be able to take it by force.   Authoritarian governments love to take, instead of being diplomatically sound enough to have others give it to them because of trust and integrity. The South China Sea still does not belong to China, but the CCP is trying to take.... and flying in the face of international law. Just because the CCP is ignoring those laws, doesn't mean the rest of the world isn't paying attention. Eventually Beijing is going to be called to task and it will be a very severe lesson.

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