Airstrikes hit Libya base held by Turkey-backed forces

Come on, with the virus going is this crazy crap ever going to stop? Nobody wins.

Didn’t turkey just humiliate the mighty French Navy recently?

the strikes were carried out by “foreign jets” allied with military commander Khalifa Hifter.

Hifter’s forces are backed by the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Russia

So more foreigners in Libya

So more foreigners in Libya

Yep, it is a messy proxy war in Libya now, with Egypt (assisted by the idiots on the EU) trying install the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya, and Egypt, the UAE and Russia unwilling to accept that.

All that could have been avoided if Hillary Clinton and Obama had not destroyed the stable Gaddafi regime. So send your thanks to the previous US government.

Sorry mistype, it is of course Erdogans Turkey that supports the Muslim brotherhood.

WilliBToday  11:04 pm JST

So more foreigners in Libya

Yep, it is a messy proxy war in Libya now,

All that could have been avoided if Hillary Clinton and Obama had not destroyed the stable Gaddafi regime. So send your thanks to the previous US government.

No send your thanks to the Libyan people. They rose up against his personality cult and his oppression. NATO helped them do so. Gaddafi was a terrormonger, he was a brat who loved to see people die. He was nobody's friend or ally. When his nation rose up against him NATO intervened in order to prevent an even greater bloodbath thruout Europe, the Middle East and half of Africa.

Now the Macbeth is gone. Obama did what ANY President had to do. Now the Libyans have to work things out for themselves but unfortunately Egypt, Turkey and Trump's Russian masters want a piece of the Libyan pie. As for Gaddafi's regime, it was always a danger. He was a problem child and he is gone.

All that could have been avoided if Hillary Clinton and Obama had not destroyed the stable Gaddafi regime. 

Which wouldn’t have happened if Bush hasn’t destabilized the region by invading and destroying Iraq based on lies about WMDs that didn’t actually exist.

Once again, American right-wind actions are shown to have made the planet a significantly worse place. These people are literally the worst humans on the planet you. And they try to criticize the Chinese, not realizing they’re equally bad.

strangerland

Which wouldn’t have happened if Bush hasn’t destabilized the region by invading and destroying Iraq based on lies about WMDs that didn’t actually exist.

Not true. Libya is far away from Iraq, and when Clinton and Obama illegally murdered Gaddafi and destroyed Libya, the Iraq situation was stable.

Strangerland

Once again, American right-wind actions are shown to have made the planet a significantly worse place. 

If you want to call the Obama/Clinton government right-wing, fine with me. I see no relevant difference between the warmongers of the neocon and neolib persuation.

Anyway, the Libya disaster is directly a result of the Obama/Clinton actions.

Not true. Libya is far away from Iraq

Yes true, and they are in the same region. Very close, and the destabilization of the region through the invasion of a sovereign nation - Iraq - who were complying with the weapons inspectors to prove they didn't have WMDs (later shown to be fact) led directly to the issues that arose in Libya.

Once again though, this destroys your teams narrative, so your fake-news Fox "News" MainStream Media won't even touch these facts.

And the swamp gets deeper.

If you want to call the Obama/Clinton government right-wing

You righties seem to get off on misrepresenting what the other team has said in order to score an ideological far-right talking point.

This is the scourge of the current-day internet.

@Strangerland

"...and the destabilization of the region through the invasion of a sovereign nation - Iraq"

How did events in Iraq, at a different time and in a different region, have a direct effect on Libya's destabilization? Libya's destabilization was a direct result of the "Arab Spring," triggered by a series of local-regional movements. When it started, the Obama was roundly criticized for being caught out and aloof from events there.

they are in the same region

No they aren't. Libya is in Northern Africa, or the Mahgreb region. Iraq is in the Middle East. Helps to know such basic facts before launching into conspiracy theories.

strangerland

Yes true, and they are in the same region. Very close, and the destabilization of the region through the invasion of a sovereign nation - Iraq 

You can keep harping on it, but Iraq does NOT excuse the destruction of Libya by the Obama/Clinton regime.

starpunk

No send your thanks to the Libyan people. They rose up against his personality cult and his oppression. NATO helped them do so. Gaddafi was a terrormonger, he was a brat who loved to see people die. 

Oh, so you are in favour of the Iraq invasion now? Because by every metric, Saddam was infinitely worse than Gaddafi, who had stopped his nuclear program and sworn off supporting terrorism.

strangerland

and they are in the same region

...and by the way, the Mahgreb and the Middle East are NOT in the same region.... unless you have never seen a map or a history book.

JeffLeeToday  06:10 am JST

@Strangerland

"...and the destabilization of the region through the invasion of a sovereign nation - Iraq"

How did events in Iraq, at a different time and in a different region, have a direct effect on Libya's destabilization? Libya's destabilization was a direct result of the "Arab Spring," triggered by a series of local-regional movements. When it started, the Obama was roundly criticized for being caught out and aloof from events there.

 

they are in the same region

No they aren't. Libya is in Northern Africa, or the Mahgreb region. Iraq is in the Middle East. Helps to know such basic facts before launching into conspiracy theories.

having the same language doesn't mean 2 nations are alike. Iraq had a 'Baathist' political party philosophy for their government, even if Saddam Hussein was an egocentric tyrant with a personality cult. Libya had no parties whatsoever, their 'Brother Leader' was IT. He also had a sickening personality cult but what he did had very little to with the Middle East, except cause a terrorist incident and sit back and laugh. Gaddafy was the brat who had no friends or allies to speak of.

The Iraq War was based on a stack of lies. It should never have been done, ever. Libya was an anolymy. Since Gaddafy was such a rogue, a pest and a nuisance to the Magreb, the Med, Europe and NATO and his army was unleashing chemical weapons and rape squads on his people, he would've committed terror attacks in those regions again. The danger was very real. Obama and NATO did the only thing there was to do, help the rebellion. After all, Gaddafy was a threat to the NATO region and in NATO we stick together, just like in Yugoslavia. Trump says NATO isn't needed now but he's a Russian sattelite anyway.

ZaphodToday  09:33 am JST

starpunk

No send your thanks to the Libyan people. They rose up against his personality cult and his oppression. NATO helped them do so. Gaddafi was a terrormonger, he was a brat who loved to see people die. 

Oh, so you are in favour of the Iraq invasion now? Because by every metric, Saddam was infinitely worse than Gaddafi, who had stopped his nuclear program and sworn off supporting terrorism.

No way, Jose. There were UN sanctions on Saddam after the 1991 war. And if he had any advanced weapons left later on, that December 1998 air war Clinton launched eliminated all that - if those sites even had anything at all. So by 2003 Dumbya knew there were no such weapons and none were found, and he lied and launched his moronic war anyway.

 in a different region

That's one perspective, another is Libya and Iraq are in MENA, Middle East/ North Africa, made a 'region' according to some because of similar language and religions found throughout.

MENA is of interest to various global powers primarily because of its huge reserves of oil and gas.

 but Iraq does NOT excuse the destruction of Libya by the Obama/Clinton regime.

In partnership with France, Italy and others. Nor the ongoing destruction of Libya at the hands of Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the US and other countries and their proxies in their ongoing wars for greater control of oil and gas - and their shipment.

Ptownsend

In partnership with France, Italy and others. Nor the ongoing destruction of Libya at the hands of Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the US and other countries and their proxies in their ongoing wars for greater control of oil and gas - and their shipment.

If this means anything, when the stupid Iraq War began in 2003 it was initially called 'Operation Iraqi Liberty', HEY! 'O.I.L.'. Then ol' lightning wit Dumbya changed the name to 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. RAZZBERRY

SMH.