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Biden's war on virus becomes war on unvaccinated

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Let us treat the unvaccinated the same way we treated the unintelligent.

These people haven’t had the benefit of education and the knowledge that comes with it.

The illiterate need your support!!!

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Let us treat the unvaccinated the same way we treated the unintelligent.

By more indoctrination

These people haven’t had the benefit of education and the knowledge that comes with it.

Most do, they just don’t want the government telling them what to do.

The illiterate need your support!!!

No, they just want the government to leave them alone

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Burning Bush,

President Biden has tried that and more. But when the other side refuses to come to the table, refuses to compromise, and substitutes appearances on Fox for dialogue. When the other side actively undermines what the President is trying to do....

The Republicans' greatest fear is that President Biden and his administration will succeed without any Republican assistance and will transform the United States into a country that actually embraces diversity, accepts equality, and eradicates discrimination.

Best wishes,

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Leadership means dialog and compromise.

Leadership also means making decisions for those who can’t or won’t. The hint is in the word ‘leadership’. See if you can find it.

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By more indoctrination

Thank you dear sir for your views on education, everyone doesn’t have the luxury of being home schooled.

Most do, they just don’t want the government telling them what to do.

No sir, they don’t, that’s why they are ignorant.

No, they just want the government to leave them alone

Oh no sir, the government has a responsibility for educating people. You know there is something called compulsory education.

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@ulysses

Let us treat the unvaccinated the same way we treated the unintelligent.

These people haven’t had the benefit of education and the knowledge that comes with it.

The illiterate need your support!!!

Though some may be illiterate, most are just willfully ignorant. There is a difference!

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Did those against this obvious measure get the vaccine making their comment meaningless or are they one of the uneducated?

Why have hospitals at all under such a mentality?'

So many right wing hate radio announcers are gone via COVID and comorbities in 2021, karma is working overtime

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Leadership means dialog and compromise.

Leadership usually includes those, but also often requires making decisions that might not always please some, including those comprising a minority that has shown contempt for their fellow citizens and that supports far right politicians like Trump, De Santis, Cruz, Tuberville, MTG etal wanting to further undermine US systems.

The US, just like so many other countries, has been dealing with a pandemic that has killed and/or sickened millions while also seriously harming the economy, the US needs leadership that is willing to make strong decisions that a minority of the population may oppose. The era of a president saying 'that's not my responsibility' like Biden's predecessor did is over. Trump threw in the towel and lost the war. Biden is trying to win it.

Unlike people in China the anti-vaxx minority are still free to move to another country. These far right anti-science religious extremists seem to prefer the leadership styles found in Russia, Belarus, Poland and Hungary and others run by authoritarian regimes. Plus in those countries the majority of people are white, just like them. They are free to go there instead of continuing to try to drag the US to low levels found in places like Florida and Texas, places long dragged down by far right extremists..

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Thank you dear sir for your views on education, everyone doesn’t have the luxury of being home schooled.

And a lot of people in school are taught to believe what the government tells you. No wonder Home schooling numbers are through the roof.

No sir, they don’t, that’s why they are ignorant.

I disagree, quite the opposite

Oh no sir, the government has a responsibility for educating people.

You would think, but not indoctrinating them

You know there is something called compulsory education.*

Not when it involves taking a vaccine.

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Biden has found unusual allies in the business community, which is eager for a return to normalcy after 18 months of pandemic disruption. They may not like Biden's proposed tax increases, but they appear to have bought into his argument that the nation can ill afford to allow the unvaccinated to “undo" progress on strengthening the economy.

I don’t know about that. Biden did just team the WH up with Amazon and Walmart in an enterprise concerning the distribution of COVID tests. I’m sure Amazon, Walmart, and their ilk will get taken care off in the back end. They’re don’t seem worried at all about Biden’s tax increase.

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And a lot of people in school are taught to believe what the government tells you.

Ah I understand, you are confusing Russia with America.

No wonder Home schooling numbers are through the roof.

They were during desegregation too, but then people came around. Though you were home schooled, which explains a lot.

I disagree, quite the opposite

That was exactly my point sir.

You would think, but not indoctrinating them

Sir, we are talking about America not Russia.Though I understand the confusion.

Not when it involves taking a vaccine.

Sir, taking a vaccine shows your education or the lack of it!!

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including those comprising a minority that has shown contempt for their fellow citizens

They don’t. If they had utter contempt, they would have stood by and let this administration dictate how all citizens should behave and force them to eat what they want and to take drugs THEY think are good for you.

and that supports far right politicians like Trump, De Santis, Cruz, Tuberville, MTG etal wanting to further undermine US systems. 

But are being praised by millions for upholding the values of freedom and choice. That’s leadership, to listen and hear your constituents.

The US, just like so many other countries, has been dealing with a pandemic that has killed and/or sickened millions while also seriously harming the economy, the US needs leadership that is willing to make strong decisions that a minority of the population may oppose.

Well, as you pointed out, the leaders (real ones) are taking a stand for sure to tell the American people that they will fight for them.

The era of a president saying 'that's not my responsibility' like Biden's predecessor did is over. Trump threw in the towel and lost the war. Biden is trying to win it. 

Biden is not winning it either. See the lawsuits coming his way. A lot of them. But I’m glad he’s pushing this, it continues to help the GOP retake the House next year

Unlike people in China the anti-vaxx minority are still free to move to another country. These far right anti-science religious extremists seem to prefer the leadership styles found in Russia, Belarus, Poland and Hungary and others run by authoritarian regimes. Plus in those countries the majority of people are white, just like them.

So being born white is a bad and shameful thing? Why is that?

They are free to go there instead of continuing to try to drag the US to low levels found in places like Florida and Texas, places long dragged down by far right extremists..

Wait, you’re confusing me, so Cubans, Haitians and Puerto Rican’s are White Nationalists?

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These people haven’t had the benefit of education and the knowledge that comes with it.

Funny, that these same “uneducated folk” are concerned with notions like freedom, individual liberty, the roll of government, keeping power in check, the education of children, the economy, the founding principles of the country, the thin line between democracy and tyranny, morality, science. You, and the other “highly educated”, on the other hand, are concerned with notions like safe spaces, and can I safely get back to Coachella.

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bass4funkToday  08:29 am JST

> And a lot of people in school are taught to believe what the government tells you. No wonder Home schooling numbers are through the roof.

Homeschooling numbers are through the roof due to COVID.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/03/homeschooling-on-the-rise-during-covid-19-pandemic.html

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Vaccines, wearing face masks and social distancing are not only to protect the individual who is taking these measures. It is to protect others. It is proven that someone may be infected and spreading Covid-19 virus while being asymptomatic. The individual is not sick and has no idea they are infected, but they can very much infect others. Vaccines greatly reduce this risk. Masks reduce the risk even more as does social distancing. One does these things out of a respect for their friends, neighbors and co-workers, and hopefully out of a sense of duty to the communities we all share. The longer it takes for everyone to do all the right things the longer this misery will last, and the more people will die or end up with life long lung damage. A little consideration for others will go a long way. Please stop arguing and take this emergency seriously. Everyone depends on everyone else to do the right thing. If it becomes each man or woman for themselves we're doomed. This is a time to pull together, not to squabble.

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Homeschooling numbers are through the roof due to COVID.

Not just covid.

Politics as well.

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The individual is not sick and has no idea they are infected, but they can very much infect others.

That makes sense. Good thing the vaccinated are safe and don’t have to worry. It’s the unvaccinated that might get sick. The vaccinated, though, won’t get sick.

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3% to 4% of the school-going population in the US is homeschooled, according to the most recent federal data.

The costs about $1,000 per child per year.

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bass4funk

And a lot of people in school are taught to believe what the government tells you. No wonder Home schooling numbers are through the roof.

Your children attend state schools.

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No, they don’t.

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bass4funkToday  08:51 am JST

Not just covid.

Politics as well.

Incorrect. Read the article I linked to instead of doubling down on being incorrect.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/03/homeschooling-on-the-rise-during-covid-19-pandemic.html

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zichiToday  08:57 am JST

bass4funk

Your children attend state schools.

In Japan, it would be their only option outside of international schools given the claims of splitting time between Japan and Texas.

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Incorrect. Read the article I linked to instead of doubling down on being incorrect.

I did, but again, COVID IS not the only reason why more and more parents are opting for home schooling.

In Japan, it would be their only option outside of international schools given the claims of splitting time between Japan and Texas.

You’re close.

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Y’all can thank the Texas GOP for the new improved “gloves off” Biden Presidency…

not gonna lie, I’m not totally comfortable with this, but hey, when your negotiating partners are Abbot and DeSantis, guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

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to those howling in outrage, this is how McConnell has been doing our side for years now. Sucks, don’t it?

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How is this possible when almost no one was vaccinated last year?

the U.S. is seeing about 300% more new COVID-19 infections a day, about two-and-a-half times more hospitalizations, and nearly twice the number of deaths compared to the same time last year.

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They don’t need education like the rest of us!!!

Not the public one, you’re right about that one.

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bass4funkToday  09:05 am JST

> I did, but again, COVID IS not the only reason why more and more parents are opting for home schooling.

Given the rate of homeschooling was steady from 2012 - which you’d know if you had read the link - when Obama was president until the pandemic, politics clearly haven’t played much of a role in the increase in homeschooling.

In Japan, it would be their only option outside of international schools given the claims of splitting time between Japan and Texas.

*You’re close**.*

There is no close about it. Private schools in Japan do not allow students to enter except in Grade 1, Grade 7, or Grade 10 with a small number of exceptions. Those exceptions are for children fluent in English, typically.

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Biden anger is misplaced,lots of unvaccinated people are taken more precautions than a lots of vaccinated people,they have the same risk as non vaccinated

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Biden anger is misplaced,lots of unvaccinated people are taken more precautions than a lots of vaccinated people,they have the same risk as non vaccinated

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So there are triple the number of cases now with 70% vaccination rate than there was last year with 0% vaccination.

vaccinated people don’t get hospitalized or die! say Biden supporters.

Then why the hospitalization rate 2.5 times higher and death rate is double?

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Bob Fosse: Leadership also means making decisions for those who can’t or won’t. The hint is in the word ‘leadership’. See if you can find it.

That’s not leadership- that’s dictatorship.

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That’s not leadership- that’s dictatorship.

so the Libertarian position is that Vax mandates are dictatorship but State sponsored Narc programs are legit?

gotcha

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So Biden starts with a vaccine in hand and now has a 70% vaccinated public.

yet more cases, deaths and hospitalizations than this time a year ago when there was no vaccine at all?!

incompetence on full display.

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So Biden starts with a vaccine in hand and now has a 70% vaccinated public.

70% of the US population are not vaccinated. What are you talking about? Only Vermont comes even close, and they're only at 68%. Red states are much, much lower.

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+vaccination+rates&sxsrf=AOaemvL0Achohu_kHaex7HDSsnDTXTxclA%3A1631323015737&source=hp&ei=hwM8Yay1KsXBhwOS_59I&iflsig=ALs-wAMAAAAAYTwRl3mMD9sB0Cvq6BpKQeAD0KuV7wmq&oq=us+vaccination+rates&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQ6BQgAEJECOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToLCC4QgAQQxwEQowI6BQguEIAEOgUIABDLAVC7eViajAFgto0BaABwAHgBgAH4AogB5BeSAQgwLjE4LjEuMZgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjslPXm3_XyAhXF4GEKHZL_BwkQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

yet more cases, deaths and hospitalizations than this time a year ago when there was no vaccine at all?!

Yeah, because predominately Republican states are far, far behind in vaccinations. In Wyoming, for example, only 39% of people are fully vaccinated.

incompetence on full display.

No no, this is the Republican game plan. It's going according to plan.

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“US hits 70% vaccination rate -- a month late, amid a surge”

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-coronavirus-pandemic-e33cc7e3eb782ceffdc9107a7cac25ab

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“US hits 70% vaccination rate -- a month late, amid a surge”

That's at least one dose, not fully vaccinated.

The U.S. on Monday finally reached President Joe Biden’s goal of getting at least one COVID-19 shot into 70% of American adults -- a month late and amid a fierce surge by the delta variant that is swamping hospitals and leading to new mask rules and mandatory vaccinations around the country.

At any rate, that doesn't change the fact that Red states have far, far lower vaccination rates. Incompetence on full display.

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In Wyoming, for example, only 39% of people are fully vaccinated.

Wyoming has a 7 day average of THREE Covid deaths.

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That's at least one dose, not fully vaccinated.

then why did that count to meet Biden’s goal? He had a goal to get people partially vaccinated? That’s a stupid goal then and he taking credit for it when it’s false.

“The U.S. on Monday finally reached President Joe Biden’s goal of getting at least one COVID-19 shot into 70% of American adults -- “

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then why did that count to meet Biden’s goal? He had a goal to get people partially vaccinated?

lmao That is your claim, Black. You claimed that 70% of the population is vaccinated. That is demonstrably false.

That’s a stupid goal then and he taking credit for it when it’s false.

Well that's your opinion, Black, but I trust Biden and actual infectious disease experts far, far more than the folks on the site who claim the vaccine doesn't work. They've been routinely been proven wrong.

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You claimed that 70% of the population is vaccinated.

and the AP agreed, see their headline and article. 70% vaccination goal MET.

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Care to explain how cases, deaths and hospitalizations are higher than ever then? Even as more people get vaccinated.

who claim the vaccine doesn't work. They've been routinely been proven wrong.

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and the AP agreed, see their headline and article. 70% vaccination goal MET.

Yeah, one shot. Not fully vaccinated. You're trying to claim the shot is not effective, even though you know full and well that that 70% figure you quote is not fully vaccinated, and you should know that a single dose of the vaccine is not as effective as receiving both doses.

The fact is that the vaccine works. There's no credible dispute with this.

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Care to explain how cases, deaths and hospitalizations are higher than ever then? Even as more people get vaccinated.

Simples. We haven't reached herd immunity, vaccinations are up, yes, but still significantly lower than the levels experts agree need to be reached to provide herd immunity. But please, by all means, don't get vaccinated, because who cares about anyone else, right?

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So 70% of people had one shot on August 2nd.

The second shot is 2 weeks later. So you are telling me all these people had one shot but then didn’t bother to go back 3 weeks ago for the 2nd one?

you can’t answer why the media lied and said Biden met this false goal, as you are claiming he didnt.

anyway, vaccinated % is up. Cases, deaths, hospitalizations higher than ever. Solution: vaccinate more people?

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That’s not leadership- that’s dictatorship.

You consistently display a fundamental misunderstanding of basic concepts.

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If the vaccines work, why would vaccinated people need to worry? What's the problem?

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Biden’s new war: you’re safe if you’re vaccinated, but we have to get the unvaccinated vaccinated in order to protect the vaccinated.

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anyway, vaccinated % is up. Cases, deaths, hospitalizations higher than ever. Solution: vaccinate more people?

That's what this guy says, you know him?

I would recommend it," Mr Trump said during an interview on Fox News Primetime on Tuesday. "I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." He added: "It's a great vaccine***, *it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.****

Trump is urging everyone, but specifically his supporters in MAGA-world, to take the vaccine - he assures you all that it is safe and effective...

But a majority of MAGA-world think the "Trump vaccine" is fake, that it contains "mind control chips", and will make you sterile...

So why is he recommending everyone take the vaccine? Maybe a Trump supporter here can explain this?

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All the arguments of anti-vaccine cultists are specious.

At this point they are willfully obtuse and have disqualified themselves from the conversation.

At this point we have a pandemic of unvaccinated cultists, morons and egoists. They, not the Biden administration, are the reason we cannot get pat this

Yes, In a democracy the legally elected government can make reasonable restrictions in the interest of public health. Happens every day without impinging on you precious “Freedumbs”

Its even better when it is supported by a majority of the electorate and make no mistake, make mandates and vaccination requirements to take full part in society have very solid majorities even in so-called Red states.

This is Biden (and Howard Stern of “Duck your freedumb”) speaking for us saying “We, the rational majority, have had enough of your idiocy. Get on board with stopping this pandemic or prepare for reasonable restrictions on public life.”

And it’s not only Biden, a fact which certain so-called free market capitalists forget. It’s any number of major companies that have decided that vaccination is a condition of active employment.

Just to head off the stupid, nom-Sensical arguments about religious freedom, which no mainstream faith is making, United says that any employee objecting on religious grounds will be out on indefinite unpaid leave. so, you’re not fired. You just don’t get paid.

So ignore the cultist howls of the few and loud, they amount to a wet fart in a hurricane.

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Pres. Biden is absolutely right. As a matter of fact, you might even say he didn't go far enough. The unvaccinated who are whining about their freedom to walk around unvaccinated and unmasked are extremely selfish in their thinking. The other day there was a report of an American elementary school teacher who, and this is very recent, taught class unvaccinated and uinmasked. Two weeks later half of the children in that teacher's class had gotten the coronavirus . . . from just this one selfish teacher. The unvaccinated are now a social health threat to not only themselves but to everybody else as well. Don't let them on planes. Don't let them ride the bus. Don't let in restaurants. And for goodness sake, don't let them teach our children in the classroom.

It's time for everyone to do their patriotic duty and get vaccinated. Remember, this is not a political issue. This is all about protecting yourself and those around you.

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So 70% of people had one shot on August 2nd.

Yes, as of August 2nd, at least 70% of the population, according to your link, had at least one shot.

The second shot is 2 weeks later. So you are telling me all these people had one shot but then didn’t bother to go back 3 weeks ago for the 2nd one?

I don't know. It's possible that some didn't, I suppose. I'm not really sure how that's relevant though, it's not like there was a huge spike in the number of vaccinations in the past few months.

you can’t answer why the media lied and said Biden met this false goal, as you are claiming he didnt.

I don't think the media lied. That's your opinion- not mine. If you want to argue over the exactitude of saying "70% of the population is vaccinated" after receiving at least one shot, be my guest, but I don't think that is "false goal," after all we can see how anti-vax conservatives on this site are.

anyway, vaccinated % is up. Cases, deaths, hospitalizations higher than ever. Solution: vaccinate more people?

Yes! Absolutely. The places that are lagging in vaccinations are leading in deaths and hospitalizations. That isn't a coincidence.

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Unvaccinated people are 11 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, new research has found, bolstering evidence that the inoculations continue to provide powerful protection, even against the delta variant

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/1036023973/covid-19-unvaccinated-deaths-11-times-more-likely

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We no longer have a COVID problem. America has multiple safe and highly effective vaccines in ample supply with the infrastructure to rapidly distribute them (none of the latter existed when Cheeto-Jesus was ejected from the White House.)

What we have is a moronic cultist problem.

“I won’t take a safe, effective, proven vaccination because (select one or more of the following) “Ma freedumb”, some opaque religious objection not supported by the governing body of my faith, “something I read on FB”, other.....

BUT, I will gladly take horse de-wormer.

This is the definition of stupid.

So yeah, we the rational literate majority, and we are the overwhelming majority, have had enough. And our legally elected President is going to take lawful actions to keep us safe but making life unpleasant for those too stupid (and often too selfish) to act in the interests of public health in an interconnected society.

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Normally I wouldn't agree with a vaccine mandate like this one. But most Americans have been extremely irresponsible, selfish and even acted like crazy and immature adults during 2020.

When we were at the beginning of this, white dudes walking around and eating at Subway while carrying their automatic riffles and even freaking Bazookas. Why? Coz they couldn't be told to please wear a mask.

Memorial Day 2020 weekend with massive parties and signs at store declaring they wouldn't accept shoppers wearing mask.

Protests around the country against wearing mask... and same protests were about Trump 2020. You figure.

Then a guy gets killed by a cop and massive protests EVERYWHERE in the country, blocking highways and other roads, mayhem and anarchy running wild, all in the name of "black lives matter." Chaos going in Portland city and civilians taking over police stations.

All of that while all of a sudden, they all forgot about Covid.

Then the rallies by the orange and him declaring "we have turned the curve on this virus" and declaring victory. All in the name of more votes and they all blindly followed, no masks, no social distancing, total disregard to the virus situation.

Selfishness and irresponsibility left and right, north and south.

It's good to have freedom. But you HAVE TO be responsible with it.

Ahora cojan pa' que gozen. Don't know how to translate this into English in a way that makes the same sense.

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It's good to have freedom. But you HAVE TO be responsible with it.

Completely agree with these. The quote I've read is, "Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn't freedom, it's adolescence." The unvaxxed are behaving like children.

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Great job, President Biden! Exactly what needed to be said.

The fact is the disinformation crowd won't change their views, the lies own them.

Wait a minute...this must be...no, really???......Trump has said of late to go get vaccinated. He himself got vaccinated long ago. Goodness, gracious Martha.

Well, the leader has spoken to you, disinformation crowd...do as he says, eh? LOL.

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sunfunbun

The fact is the disinformation crowd won't change their views, the lies own them.

Wait a minute...this must be...no, really???......Trump has said of late to go get vaccinated. He himself got vaccinated long ago. Goodness, gracious Martha.

Trump always said that. He also pushed the development of these mRNA shots with his "operation warp speed" program, which the mainstream media criticized as too hasty and misguided. Already forgotten?

In effect, the current vaccines are Trumps creation, and ironically now the old Trump haters are most eager to force everyone to get them.

I wonder who the "disinformation crowd" is.

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Good. Give them the slap they deserve, enough of these egocentric morons plaguing the world recovery.

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China's first self-developed mRNA vaccine to enter mass production in October with annual capacity of 200 million doses

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1233797.shtml

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ZaphodToday  12:32 pm JST

In effect, the current vaccines are Trumps creation, and ironically now the old Trump haters are most eager to force everyone to get them.

No, they aren’t Trump’s creation. That completely undermines the rest of your statement.

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