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Angry Hillary Clinton: 'I'm secretary of state, not Bill'

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Not very statesman like, or should I say stateswoman like? Maybe she was just tired.

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I'll let this one pass - it's way too easy. Have a nice flight back to the States Secretary Clinton.

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It would have been funny if after her, "I am" thing, if the guy asking the question would have said, "That's too bad. He's nice."

Would have been comedy gold. But...cest la vie.

Taka

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Oh Hillary, you dare flare whenever Bill's name trumps your. Funny

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Didn't I warn you of her a while ago?

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North Korea is right: Hillary should just stick to shopping and globe-trotting. She is much better at those things than answering questions.

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Hillary would have been a great US. President, NOT! Hillary is not so strong in some political areas like Bill, Bill was a former US. President for eight years, so his negotiating is much more experienced.

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She has reason to be bitter.

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Saw this one coming a mile off. :-)

I'm guessing it can be problematic if your husband is a former president..

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Bill was a former US. President for eight years, so his negotiating is much more experienced

And he still is a former president. They get better at negotiating after leaving office? One would hope that the president negotiates better while still in office...

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She's right, she is the Secretary of State. Don't underestimate Hillary, but be respectful. She's smart and understands the whole political structure and wants to be separated from the Mrs. Clinton image. She can handle herself with anybody. The release of those two journalist was not possible without Hillary.

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she should have been president and Bill Clinton should be the Pope.

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Poor silly harridan. I almost feel sorry for her.

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Maybe the student misunderstood her title 'Secretary'.

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She's smart and understands the whole political structure and wants to be separated from the Mrs. Clinton image.

Saw a video of this little drama. Hillary, the drama queen, didn't help her case by turning up in a dressing gown and curlers. Pretty hard to through off the "Mrs" image.

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Wee bit of a temper tantrum, but what can you expect when faced not only with somewhat sexist perceptions of 'who's wearing the pants', so to speak, but following in the footsteps of her husband, having lost the nomination to run for president herself, and given what her husband just accomplished?

At least after her outbreak she returned to normal.

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Man send her to NK next time. we'll have ol Kim JI on his knees begging to be left alone.

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Hey, we've got not one, but two secretaries of state - two for the price of one! Can't beat that!

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She has been thoroughly humiliated, by her own party no less.

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The release of those two journalist was not possible without Hillary.

I haven't read anything about Sec. Hillary Clinton's role. Could you explain your above statement?

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Poor woman. She's doing a good job as S of State, as opposed to the crap job Bill did as President but will always be overshadowed by him. Things should get better for her as Bill fades away and she gets accepted in her own right.

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LastBestHope at 10:56 AM JST - 11th August She has been thoroughly humiliated, by her own party no less.

So the Democratic party has taken over politic of the Congo. Yeees, the plot is now complete, the Democrats run the Congo! Muhahahahahahaha

Okay I did not get how HIllary got humiliated by her own party when she was in the Congo....

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Well, she must have heard that question over and over in her first lady days. "What does Bill think of ....?"

Now it's his turn!

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You'd think they'd have worked these issues out ahead of time among themselves, in the privacy of their own home. Hillary certainly has every right to assert her authority as SofS but someone needs to keep Bill on a tight enough leash to prevent him from interfering with her work.

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That's my gal; nice and feisty. Bill does not need to be kept on a leash. He is his own person as is Hilary. Bill did a fantastic job in NK.

Can you just imagine what the conservatives would be saying if we did not have the most potentially aggressive and dominant Secretary of State? She did not handle the matter diplomatically but it was a short and harmless snafu for criminy sake.

“I cannot excuse the past and I will not try,” she said. “We can either think about the past and be imprisoned by it or we can decide we’re going to have a better future and work to make it.”

As far as I am concerned she made proper amends.

As much as people would dismiss her assets, she is very intelligent and extremely independent person in a role of total dependence upon her boss' discretion. Outside of a physical altercation she would kick ass and take names in any situation backing her into a corner.

She is exactly what I expect and that is just how she rolls.

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Bill did a GREAT job in NK, hope some how he can repeat that success in Iran Hillary is doing a good job too, but I think she expects too much in return. She's not first in anything and I think that messes with her head a bit. you know what they say about rich old white ladies right?

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She did not handle the matter diplomatically but it was a short and harmless snafu for criminy sake. Besides it was a bullshit question.

are you a moderator or a matador? does profanity not constitute "vulgar/offensive"? fell asleep @ the wheel again did you? your moderator status should've been revoked a long time ago!

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Apparently the translator made a mistake and the student had wanted to know what President Obama thought of the deal. The student later went up to Clinton after the event and told her he was misquoted.

It seems the 'Main Media' too is turning into 'Tabloids'

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another student had asked if the U.S. and the West felt a need to apologize to the people of Congo for colonialism and post-colonial interference

Yeah, because Africa has been doing such a great job post-colonialism.

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Good for her for (finally) standing up to her husband's shadow. Too bad the student was misquoted though.

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truth hurts don't it

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She is secretary of state now -- our country's top diplomat. She should not be so testy when answering questions by university students in another country. She should grow up and remember that, as our country's top diplomat, it's not just about her or her feelings. The whole Obama administration seems to be reminded, in fact, that it's not just about themselves and their own feelings.

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another student had asked if the U.S. and the West felt a need to apologize to the people of Congo for colonialism and post-colonial interference.

Good point. In the interest of avoiding "post-colonial interference," maybe we should stop sending billions of dollars in aid to Africa.

Especially since most of that money never seems to help anybody out of poverty -- it's used instead by the "leaders" to build themselves palaces and buy themselves new fleets of Benzes.

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what can i say... stand by your man..

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Just before the question that set off her anger, another student had asked if the U.S. and the West felt a need to apologize to the people of Congo for colonialism and post-colonial interference.

I don't think the USA needs to apologize for anything that has been done in Africa.

When Belgium was running a heavy hand (no disrepect to those rubber workers who had limbs cut off for not working), the US was still an isolationist country more concerned with its own westward expansion.

If any apoligies need to be rendered, it is Europe with Portugal for starting the slave trade to the new world. England was big into it, but did somewhat make amends with trying to enforce the stopping of the slave trade in the 1800's (but made up for it by exploitation of Kenya, South Africa, and the rest of her African possessions); France and her dealings with her possessions, etc.

The US has no need to apologize for anything.

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The question was left unanswered as the moderator of the event quickly moved on.

Her trip though it has been in the news has not been widely publicized in the US. I am sure the remainder will. She never would have done this back in the States with all of the media attention. I guess she thought "out of sight, out of mind."

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Okay I did not get how HIllary got humiliated by her own party when she was in the Congo....

JoeBiggs, At least when Condi was Sec State, whether you liked her or not, she was all ways sent to the hotspots and in the middle of things, rather than having to deal with special envoys for spots like the Middle East and other special envoys. Going to the Congo while her husband made a great play for the two in nK.

How did the Dem party humilate her? She is no longer in the inner ring. She is a person with a big title but not really making any big calls. Just think, if she would have said no to Obama and kept her Senate seat, she would probably be the one who could have made his Health Care bill a little more palitable for the public. She could have been in the limelight, front row center. Now, if that bill passes, someone else will get credit.

I imagine that based on the results of the mid-term elections next year, Hillary will resign and the 2012 election will begin.

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The translator mistranslated the student's question. (Figure the translator would be sent back to school.)

Hillary probably thought it was an affront that she couldn't do her job without Bill being the true powerbroker behind (ala Medvedev/Putin).

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Heh. Didn't see this comming. /end sarcasm

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She probably thought it was a republican plot!

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Much ado about nothing. I watched the exchange on BBC and she never raised her voice and answered rather matter-of-factly. How else was she to handle the question and would any other SoS or politician answer any different?

Anger? Hardly.

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I don't think the USA needs to apologize for anything that has been done >in Africa.

Are you in complete denial about America's role in the slave trade?

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Are you in complete denial about America's role in the slave trade?

you mean buying slaves captured and sold by other africans?

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Are you in complete denial about America's role in the slave trade?

OssanAmerica, if you read your history, you will see that American banned the import of new slaves from Africa in the early 1800's and along with the Royal Navy triede to enforce the international slave trade. The slave trade wsa still going on in Africa up until 1900, with the slaves going to Brazil.

Now I am not saying that America did no wrong with the slavery that it kept in America until 1865, but as far as screwing over Africa, Europe has a lot to atone for. As well as many of the African kingdoms that were selling their captives in war to the Europeans.

The US (under "W") pumped more money into Africa to combat malaria and AIDS, more than Belgium who made itself very wealthy has done.

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you mean buying slaves captured and sold by other africans?

Yes, but slaves were bought/sold once. They were sold again on US soil.

Now I am not saying that America did no wrong with the slavery that it >kept in America until 1865, but as far as screwing over Africa, Europe >has a lot to atone for.

There is sufficient grounds for America to apologize. You and I both know that slaves were sold and traded on American soil. That others owe a bigger apology is a different issue.

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correction: Yes, but slaves were not bought/sold once

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America doesn't owe an 'apology' to anyone over this.

Our bloodiest war was fought over this issue.

Hell... African 'royalty' on the west coast of Africa today who are descendents of African 'royalty' who were in the slave business think it's nuts that anyone's askin' them to apologize.

1865... blood for blood. Get over it. Move on.

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I don't blame her for being annoyed, Bill did steal the spotlight with the NK hostage release.

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The video clip totally shows her lack of class. That's our secretary of State? Sad. She looks like a bag lady whose bag was just stolen. ...and she wants to be president? That she has to reiterate, "I'M secretary of State, NOT BILL!" reveals a deep inferiority complex and her delusional need to power trip over shadows and ghosts; like a dog barking in the mirror.

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She should have handled the question with more tact and diplomacy instead of sounding like a petulant child.

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Bill may not have been the greatest president or anything, but he was sure as heck a much better speaker than Hilary. She was a fool to get spun up. Especially since her husband is a former president!

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"Secretary of the Bills" or "Secretary to Bill"?

Either way, no wonder she is getting upset.

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She was tired and irritable. Let's cut the bag lady a break. But I agree, thank GOD she didn't become President.

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There is sufficient grounds for America to apologize. You and I both know that slaves were sold and traded on American soil. That others owe a bigger apology is a different issue.

OssanAmerica, I am aware of the selling of slaves in America, since my ancestors were slaves who were sold. But thatis an internal affair. America stopped the legal importation of slaves around 1801. We along with Britian were in the business of stopping slavers as they sailed to the Americas.

I don't think that it is another issue. The question was asked if the U.S. and the West needed to apologize for colonialism and post colonialism in Africa. America had no colonies in Africa. It did try to start the country of Liberia for freed slaves in an effort to "send them back to Africa" but a funny came up. The freed blacks did not want to go "back to Africa" since they understood their decendants came from there but they were born in America and felt that that was their home, even if they had been slaves.

Belguim really ran a rough hand in the Congo and if any country should apologize it should be them, along with the rest of the European countries that divided Africa into colonies, and after WW2 when they gave up their colonies still exploited them.

You will find that the US at least tried to help out.

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Hilary proably feels insecure and sidelined as she does not appear to be calling the shots.

About the slavery. The British sent many English, Irish and Scottish petty criminals to their American colony as indentured slaves to work the tobbacco plantations in Virginia. As friction increased between the colony and the British government, and as many of these white slaves escaped or resisted slavery the "Planters" turned their attention to the cheaper yet stronger and more compliant black slaves as a good source of free labour. With nowhere left to send their white slaves the British began the colonisation of Australia. The British Empire and immense wealth was built on the back of such slavery.

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Alphaape. Throughout history the colonists have always prevailed over the indigenous people. Europe had it's South American Indians and its Africans, The British had its American Indians, the Australian Aborigines, the Hawaiians and the Maoris, and today "Israel" has its Palestinians. This is the cruel reality of a superiority complex, and can only be corrected by proper education.

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SebastianFlyte, I never did say that Amerca's hands were clean on the slavery issue. Yes we ran the Indians off their land and the Hawaiians too. But to simply state that the West is bad for disrupting the "noble savages" as you are implying is more of a superiority complex. Many African nations need to come clean about their own internal strife during the time that the slave trade was going on to admit that as a result of many wars and fights over land, the conquerors sold their captives to the Europeans. Also, many of the cultures you mentioned also had their own internal struggles. To think that all American Indians were just one happy group is niave. They warred with each other, and took the sides of Europeans to kill their enemies before that got screwed themself.

No superiority complex from me. I just wish others would look at history objectively, and realize that it is "man's inhumanity to man" and not necessarily the cultural superiority issue that causes much of the strife.

And by the way, if you really want to look at the "superiority" issue, many of the natives thought that the exploring "barbarians" were just that, uncivilized in their opinion and thought that they were superior to the newcomers.

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Well, I think we can all agree to disagree here but Hillary needs to speak out on this more often.It has led to debate about slavery in America and about reparations.Kudos to the young man who asked the question.I hope he is referenced in one of Obama's speeches, which are astounding, and fabulous.

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Bill has been trampling on Hillary for years and the egomaniac isn't going to stop just because his wife is Secretary of State. Could you just imagine what would be going on if Hillary was president? They would have to lock the first husband up to keep his impulses from destroying her administration!

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This is an utter shame to America for a high level politician to snap at a mere college kid in a 3rd world country like this. Ppl say she had jet lag, well if you talked to your English student like that would you get slack for calling it jetlag? Or if you talked to a business client like this, would your boss give you slack when you said "I had jetlag". No. We are expected to conduct ourselves professionally even when we are tired. Yet, shes supposed to be a worldwide experienced traveler so she is supposed to be able to conduct herself as a professional and a good representative of America despite having jetlag. Ive worked in customer service when Ive been as sick as a dog and have had customers CURSING at me because of a mistake someone else made on the other side of the country, but I never raised my voice at them and I always treated customers with courtesy, but Im a little "nobody" and I handled myself 1000 times better than she did and Ive seen other little "nobodies" do likewise. She wasnt cursed at. She was a guest and treated her host like trash. Jetlag is not an excuse for a Secretary of State to be rude and hateful. If she cant handle jetlag, she needs to step down from the job b/c I dont want someone like this representing me and my fellow Americans b/c this is not the way most Americans are.

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