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"Give Hong Kong back to us" 

I'm afraid it's too late for that. If only Britain hadn't handed over sovereignty of HK to China...

HK will eventually be under the complete control of the Chinese communist dictatorship.

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 If only Britain hadn't handed over sovereignty of HK to China.

Britain had to. Just look at the interaction between Thatcher and Deng.

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This is over an extradition bill, a bill. Veto it. Rewrite it. There is legislative procedure. Democracy isn’t about causing mayhem. Right after Trump was elected the same types took it to the streets and got their heads pushed down hard against the cement. This was the correct response by the police. If you want to protest, protest peacefully.

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This is over an extradition bill, a bill. Veto it.

That's what started it. The bill was scrapped weeks ago. This is about getting Lam out of office for overstepping Beijing's position in HK.

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Ignorance and colonial mentality are dangerous mix. Let the freedom trouble makers show their true values: violence, selfish, biases, and intolerance.

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This is the new normal until Lam is gone and democratic elections of leaders that Hong Kongers choose happens.

This is nothing like what happened after President Trump was elected. 100K out of 350+M is not a demand. Over 20% of Hong Kong has been involved in these protests. That is completely different. It is more like what happened in Puerto Rico which has ousted 2 Governors in 2 weeks.

The will of the citizenship must be followed or they will need to be killed. I don't think the CCP is prepared for either. That is scary for the CCP as both the Chinese economy and Xi's power recede together.

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The protesters are turning into rioters, damaging private property public infrastructure.

The police need to respond appropriately. India and Kashmir are in a similar situation, but the Indian government has already stationed troops in Kashmir. No nation can tolerate continued rioting. The original protest in HK was over the extradition bill which has now been withdrawn but the rioters now have a "list of demands" which is essentially a demand for independence. Neither China or India will grant independence to their respective territories, just like Spain will not grant independence to Catalonia. If some in HK don't like what is happening they are still able to leave, and some have.

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This is momentous. I have no idea what will happen, but I suspect brute force eventually. When governments are SCARED of their own people they become dangerous to everybody.

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The people always possess the DEMOCRATIC right to overthrow their DESPOTIC ruling class BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY (and you can forget peaceful demonstrations; the tone-deaf executives of the CCP only respect force). When the people prevail, it's called a revolution, innit?

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theFu: " It is more like what happened in Puerto Rico which has ousted 2 Governors in 2 weeks."

But Puerto Ricans still do not have full US citizenship and are still regarded as second class citizens. Congress totally disregards the views and welfare of Puerto Ricans

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Those demoncrazy protesters are just financed hooligans, ignored completely by 1.4 billion people. Let them show their true nature and extremist behaviors.

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u_s__reamer: "you can forget peaceful demonstrations;.."  "When the people prevail, it's called a revolution, innit?"

It called also be called a civil war! Is this what you are advocating? You know who will lose!

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The Chinese will send in their military soon. The tanks will roll into Hong Kong.

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Akie: Ignorance and colonial mentality are dangerous mix.

I am not sure who you are talking about when you reference “ignorance and colonial” mentality. This can easily be referring to the Chinese Communist Party. China is a communist country- that necessarily means they repress their people and force them to live by the dictates of a small clique of leaders in a far off capitol.

Let the freedom trouble makers show their true values: violence, selfish, biases, and intolerance.

Freedom is the opposite of violence. The idea of freedom implies that people have the right to live their life free from interference unless it infringes upon the freedom of others. A controlling central government requires violence as seen by the nationwide slaughter at the time of the Tianamen Square protests.

Those demoncrazy protesters are just financed hooligans, ignored completely by 1.4 billion people. Let them show their true nature and extremist behaviors.

Well let’s hope that the CCP will ignore the people of Hong Kong’s peaceful protests and refrain from sending in the military as they did 30 years ago under similar circumstances.

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Chinese are tolerant people but the laws aren't.

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People don’t like what they see. I don’t blame them! The CCP “laws” are used to impose their ideologies on the general population of China - Big Brother, Police State.

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@riperez, at times you sound like a law & order, right-wing hardliner (especially on this topic), but I don't disagree with you identifying these "protesters" and their actions as "rioters damaging cars, infrastructure, private property and intimidating other people" and how they should be handled.

I recall back in 1968 at the Democrat National Convention in Chicago when then-Mayor Richard Daley gave Chicago Police orders to "shoot to kill" should the SDS protesters get completely out of hand. (Fortunately for them it didn't go that far.)

HK is bordering on anarchy (if not already) and it won't be long before China mainland government sends in tanks and troops and impose martial law. Then what will happen next? The anarchist leaders and supporters are rounded up tried and executed in accordance with CCP laws? How will the "democratic" world react?

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This can easily be referring to the Chinese Communist Party. China is a communist country- that necessarily means they repress their people and force them to live by the dictates of a small clique of leaders in a far off capitol.

No, that's not a part of Communism, necessary or otherwise. Unfortunately, pretty much ever Communist nation has shifted to dictatorships and corruption, and still called it Communism, but just the same as North Korea is not Democratic, even though the name of the country contains that word, neither is oppression of the people part of Communism - "necessarily" nor otherwise.

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Stay Strong Hong Kongers! We're supporting you in spirit, even when we can't be there in person.

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Washington DC doesn't get to pick who the governor of Puerto Rico will be or even who can run for office there. That's the difference.

All Puerto Ricans are 100% US citizens. They vote in national elections and in Puerto Rican elections, have US passports. That isn't any different than what someone in a state does.

Hong Kongers just want the rights to self govern that was promised by the CCP until 2047.

Lam still needs to go.

I have few issues with the Chinese people. It is only the fearful ways the CCP governs which concerns me for these 1.4B+ people and the people of Hong Kong who clearly want a government they select. What's next? Will Hong Kong be get a highly filtered internet like the mainland has? Will they be forced to load govt spying apps on their smartphones? Will travel be refused if their social score isn't pro-govt enough? Will their jobs be threatened like those of Cathay Pacific?

Freedom isn't free.

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theFu: "All Puerto Ricans are 100% US citizens. They vote in national elections and in Puerto Rican elections, have US passports. That isn't any different than what someone in a state does."

History is wonderful and so is reading. Fact: "the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment does not extend to Puerto Rico.  Puerto Ricans are not entitled to a constitutional citizenship status. While Puerto Ricans are officially U.S. citizens, the territory remains unincorporated. This contradiction has enabled the governance of Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory that belongs to, but is not a part of, the United States."

Don't just assume, investigate.

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