Antarctica joins rest of globe in warming

OMG head for higher ground Antartica is melting. This is terrible. Run for the hills.

Yep, if you live anywhere under 1000 feet above sea level, its time to head for higher ground. Expect Waterworld next week...

But I'm sure those guys at NASA and the very science of thermal dynamics have nothing on the shrieking heads at fox who tell their mindless followers that it's all a hoax.

Taka

The researchers used satellite data and mathematical formulas to fill in missing information.

If anyone were to take a few minutes to really read this story you will realize that there isn't much of a story at all. This is one study that had to make up data to come to the conclusion that the Antartic is warming ever so slightly. No other study comes to this conclusion - whether with made up data or not. Since the planet has been cooling over the past ten years, this is a rigged up press release to keep the global warming hysteria on high boil. Yawn. Keep your gas powered cars handy folks, we the onset of global cooling, we made need them.

Yeah right Wolfpack...and this is on the eve of another ice shelf (thousands of square kms) collapsing off the continent.

...along with mutiple evidence strands from diverse disciplines that this final bastion of wilderness is undergoing rapid and dramatic changes as we watch.

Global warming denying is the next PR growth industry. Expect lots of ex-Big tobacco spinsters to be behind the doubters.

Wolfpack,

Not to worry. It's all good for submariners. They only lose in another ice age.

Yes, if you bother to read the article you can see that data is sparse and that there are reservations about these findings. You can also kind of suss out that the only reason that this is important is that because the anti-global warming crowd has dug its feet in on the terra firma of the antarctic. Obviously, people are looking for ways to dispel the hold of an irrelevant argument.

The Sun is also getting hotter. So if the Sun is getting hotter don`t you think the Earth would do the same? There is proof that it is a contributing factor to Global Warming and as time passes by (millions of years in the future)everything will eventually burn up or evaporate and we will be able to do nothing about it.

Global warming denying is the next PR growth industry. Expect lots of ex-Big tobacco spinsters to be behind the doubters.

nice spin. it could read the other way...

Global Warming Alarmist is the next new wave religion. Expect lots of anti religion spinsters get behind the alarmists.

VOR

Yes it could be read the other way. But what is known is that several big US PR spin-doctors who formerly worked in big tobacco, now work in other big companies. Their mission is not to kill the global warming message, because there is too much science around for them to be able to do that. Their job is to sow doubt. That is achievable. Looks like it's working.

pointofview,

Well, in the long run we're all dead anyway so I guess it is better to just do nothing. The same with other problems, terrorism, the economy. What the heck. Que sera, sera.

nip; i hear that man made global warming science isn't as open and shut as some on the left would like everyone to believe. if you are questioning the intentions and motivations of one side and not the other you are doing yourself and others a disservice.

VOR - If I treat the subject of global warming as if it matters, and it doesn't matter; then it doesn't matter. If I treat the subject as if it doesn't matter, and it matters; then it matters! Barry Jones, a former science minister, put it as plain as could be. And that's where I'm coming from.

nip; i hear that man made global warming science isn't as open and shut as some on the left would like everyone to believe.

For once, I agree with VOR.

if you are questioning the intentions and motivations of one side and not the other you are doing yourself and others a disservice.

I question the motives of all sides all the time. But you just have accept the fact that some people are going to get rich. My big question is: What is the harm? I can see huge harm for ignoring the possibility of man-made global warming. I can see no harm in doing what is suggested to fight it, except a bit of economic downturn. But also, methods to curb obvious pollution and CO2 emissions can create new industries in the long run.

If I treat the subject as if it doesn't matter, and it matters; then it matters!

He should have said, "If I treat the subject as if it doesn't matter, and it matters; BIG TROUBLE!

http://green.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090121/sc_nm/us_antarctica_warming.html

"Antarctica is getting warmer rather than cooling as widely believed, according to a study that fits the icy continent into a trend of global warming."

'nuff said.

I can see no harm in doing what is suggested to fight it, except a bit of economic downturn. But also, methods to curb obvious pollution and CO2 emissions can create new industries in the long run.

There are 2 obvious downsides to whats happening here. The first is as you stated, an economic downturn for nothing. One that is caused not because of a real problem but because of a manufactured one. That in itself is worrisome, however there is another, further problem you aren't realizing. The very real harm this does to scientific credibility. To put it simply, manmade global warming has become a religion, rather then a science. When you take it out of the realm of science, and put it in the realm of faith, you are doing enormous harm to real science. Previously if a scientist published a paper, his motives in doing so, his backers, his place of work, all these things wouldn't have mattered. Rather it was the science that mattered, whether or not the data was valid and reproducible. Now if a study contradicts the global warming hysteria, it is being ignored,while others that don't, are being pushed. As someone who really does keep an open mind, it is very disturbing to say the least. I am becoming more skeptical by those on the green side, simply because of their tactics, and their attempts to silence anyone who disagrees with them. When or if it ever comes out that global warming hysteria really is a farce, then I question how much trust the scientific establishment will ever have, or for that matter, how much trust they will deserve.

There are 2 obvious downsides to whats happening here. The first is as you stated, an economic downturn for nothing.

Well we don't have to worry about that now, we already got one of them.

As for man-made global warming, the last two hundred years (a mere blip in earth time)has seen human activity that never existed before, with all kinds of junk being pumped into the atmosphere. This activity either has a negative effect of some still unknown impact or it has no effect. Whether Antarctica is warming or cooling is irrelevant to answering that, because nobody knows what the natural cycle is in the first place.

Now if a study contradicts the global warming hysteria, it is being ignored,while others that don't, are being pushed.

Good point Molenir. It is the same possibility with many scientific studies. It is the same line of reasoning that many smokers say for not believing the scientific link between smoking and lung cancer. It is the same line of reasoning that people will refuse any scientific link between fatty food and heart disease. I guess the bottom line is it is all a sort of religion and in the end we are free to choose what we believe in and what we don't.