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True colors showing by a certain segment of the Left.

8 ( +23 / -15 )

More intolerance from the party that claims to be tolerant. I always said, the Democratic party needs to be destroyed, not only did they lose the presidency, they lost the House and Senate, they got annihilated.

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More intolerance from the party that claims to be tolerant.

I don't necessarily agree with the protests, but you're conflating entirely different things.

2 ( +18 / -16 )

Get off the streets and go sit down.

The time to do anything was -> on election day.

It's over and it was a fair one. Nothing to protest.

Just lament that more people didn't think and vote like you but quit making a public nuisance.

18 ( +27 / -9 )

The only way the hate is going away is if he starts respecting minorities, women, handicapped, different beliefs, a womens the right to her own body, right to universal healthcare, and much much more.

If by some miracle he actually starts doing that, I too will respect him. Until such time......

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“I hope that people get it out of their system. They go out, they exercise ... their right to free speech, but then they give this man that was just elected very historically and his new vice president an opportunity to govern,”

I agree, unless "get it out of their system" means that once Trump's in power protests and free speech critical of Trump and The Party will be no longer be allowable. The Party now has the executive, legislative, and soon the judicial branches under their control. It will be interesting to watch how they handle disagreements and criticisms of any sort.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

How long before Wikileaks tells us who is coordinating and funding these protests. The powers that be will not just lay back and give up power.

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they just make the left look like spoiled immature idiots.

1 ( +15 / -14 )

RawB who is coordinating and funding these protests. The powers that be

Are you suggesting that people like Giuliani, Trump and his family, Gingrich, Christie and others in the inner-circle-of-rich-powerful-white men are behind the protests?

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@RawBeer. VERY well said......

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

they just make the left look like spoiled immature idiots.

__________________________________________ It feels like we were just pulled back from the edge of the abyss.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Instead of protesting they should have voted.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

what happened to, "when they go low, we go high!". it was just more bs.

1 ( +10 / -9 )

Let's be kind. The snowflakes are working through the five stages of grief - they are currently dealing with the anger of not getting their way. This stage will likely last from 4 to 8 years.

what happened to, "when they go low, we go high!". it was just more bs.

It is now; when they go low, riot!

7 ( +15 / -8 )

or, more accurately, "when we dont get what we want, riot!"

0 ( +10 / -10 )

@PTend, Soros and the DNC have been caught a number of times hiring, training, and coordinating protests and instigating fights.... and trying to blame Trump for the violence and disunity. Seems like it's more of the same...

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Outrider:

'They go low' ... Obamas cancel White House family photo op with Trumps.

Let's see how it pans out ... currently WH press secretary denies it ...

They Go Low: Obamas Cancel First Family Photo Op with Trumps

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/10/wsj-obamas-cancel-first-family-photo-op-trumps/

WSJ: Obamas Cancel First Family Photo Op With Trumps ... The Wall Street Journal reports:

The Obamas canceled a photo-op of the current and future first couples outside the south entrance of the White House. In his first visit to the White House after the 2008 election, Mr. Obama and first lady Michelle Obama posed for the cameras alongside President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush. The decision not to participate in this tradition illustrates how bitter the campaign was, particularly for Mrs. Obama who delivered some of the most emotional arguments against electing Mr. Trump. ...

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Are these special-snowflake Democrats protesting the fact that not enough Hillary worshippers got off their collective butts to march to the voting booth when it actually counted? On election day.

Are these special-snowflake protestors even old enough to vote? It's reported that several protests were staged by high school students. I think they just wanted a day away from school.

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How dare these meddling kids not tolerate intolerance!

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What a bunch of sissy cry babies. The election was free and fair. Just because you don't get your way, you burn flags, loot, destroy your own community. Brilliant! spoiled little whiners! If you promote Anarchy you are a danger to the Republic. You cannot hurt (physically) people or destroy their property. You can PEACEFULLY protest. That is your God given right under the constitution. If you want to blame someone for your situation , blame the DNC, as YOUR party selected Hillary Clinton for President, and they full well knew about all the baggage she carried with her for the last 30 years.

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loot

that's a very serious accusation that I do hope you have evidence for, as I've failed to find any.

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A good education in "progressive" politics. it doesnt really engeander respect for the left. whine on, lefties.

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that's a very serious accusation that I do hope you have evidence for, as I've failed to find any.

http://freedomdaily.com/black-lives-matter-rioting-looting-oakland-trump-win/

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Are these special-snowflake protestors even old enough to vote? It's reported that several protests were staged by high school students. I think they just wanted a day away from school.

It isn't about Trump, or even Republicans. It is about the majority of Americans who happen to be white and are not obsessed with homosexuality, transgenderism or illegal immigrants.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Trump has incited so much hate...he's going to have a hard time unifying the country.

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The election was free and fair.

Yup, under the laws that govern presidential elections in the United States, the election was free and fair. Two interesting points: Hillary won the popular vote, and this year marks a quarter century since a GOP candidate has done so. (Not that that stops them from assuming power anyway.)

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they just make the left look like spoiled immature idiots.

Yeah, if Trump had lost I`m sure he and his followers would have behaved in a way more mature and dignified manner. No way that they would have thrown a hissy fit about how the whole thing was rigged and urging the gun nuts to kill Clinton....oh wait. They managed to do all of that just at the mere thought of losing an election before it had even been held.

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Yeah, maybe they are rioting , but this is NOTHING compared to the riots that happened when Obama won in 2008...

oh wait....

never mind.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

They are rioting because they know the free ride is over. Trump is not Obama, he will "Drain the swamp"!

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People need to take their cues from PRes. Obama. He is being gracious and moral. The reality is that there IS going to be a transition of power, so it had better be done smoothly for the good of the country as a whole. Time to look forward, not backwards. It was less than 3 days ago that these men were at each others' throats, but now they can be mature enough to do what is best for everyone. It's a pity that some on the left can't help but throw childish tantrums.

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hey ppl say Trump supporters are this and that but what I've been seen is a total disrespect from Hillary's supporters... disturbing conventions, attacking people in the streets, vandalizing and breaking stuff even after it's over. Do you call these acts democratics or barbarics? Bunch of bullies, thugs....

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Come one, come all! It's time to play WHO STABBED HILLARY IN THE BACK! ... ... Hmmm... misogynist men? Who's next?

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

I don't care for Trump but you lost, go home. A vote was taken and you lost.

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Thank you, yakyak.

The writer of that article opines:

In this video idiot low lives shout “Not my President.” Maybe they’d like to move to Iraq or Syria.

If there was looting, Fox will have reported it. Once again, please provide the evidence.

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It's good they're protesting so vigorously, I assume the right of protest won't last too much longer. I suspect this will trigger a Left tea party movement that'll create similar momentum to the Rube movement

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Are you suggesting that people like Giuliani, Trump and his family, Gingrich, Christie and others in the inner-circle-of-rich-powerful-white men are behind the protests?

Why does it always boil down to race with you guys? I just don't get it.

Yup, under the laws that govern presidential elections in the United States, the election was free and fair. Two interesting points: Hillary won the popular vote, and this year marks a quarter century since a GOP candidate has done so. (Not that that stops them from assuming power anyway.)

Uh-huh...well, I have an answer for that....

https://www.facebook.com/DisdainForPlebs/photos/a.754761891270927.1073741828.754734577940325/1209732992440479/?type=3&theater

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Without Hillary and Obama to blame at every turn, Republicans will have to govern. All eyes are on you.

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What I don't get is what the end goal of the protestors is. It's not like Trump is going to suddenly say 'oh, you don't want me? Ok, I'll bow out'.

The guy won. He's becoming president. Time to shift your efforts, now it's time to oppose his stupid policies (when they start coming), not to oppose him becoming president. That boat has sailed.

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"David Duke, a former Imperial Wizard of the KKK, hailed Trump's election "one of the most exciting nights of my life" and rejoiced in the fact that "our people" helped him keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House."

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Laguna:

this year marks a quarter century since a GOP candidate has done so (won the popular vote)

bass4funk

Uh-huh...well, I have an answer for that....

(provides a link [Disdain for Plebs] with) where 726 people have Liked the claim that:

Liberals weren't complaining when it disproportionately represented Obamas popular vote

I know that facts are like Kryptonite for some people, but Obama got the majority of the electoral and popular votes against both McCain and Romney.

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Without Hillary and Obama to blame at every turn, Republicans will have to govern. All eyes are on you.

Ahhh, can you repeat that again, that just sounds so sweet, can't get enough of it, I mean, the part where Hillary and Obama will NOT being here anymore

@sense

That's not what I was talking about. We are not talking about Obama, he's almost in the History books. I'm just thankful we have the electorate, that ensures fairness for both sides.

"David Duke, a former Imperial Wizard of the KKK, hailed Trump's election "one of the most exciting nights of my life" and rejoiced in the fact that "our people" helped him keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House."

Yeah, so what? That's idiot David Duke, that's HIS stupid opinion, that doesn't mean Trump is in the same camp, is on his side, rooting for him, praises him and endorses him. If you can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Trump is a staunch supporter of the KKK and other White Extremists, I'll give you a heartfelt apology. Other than that, no one could give a....about what Duke thinks. The man is a racist loon!

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That's not what I was talking about.

At the risk of ad hominem, do you know what you actually are talking about?

I'm just thankful we have the electorate, that ensures fairness for both sides.

It patently doesn't. Urban voters are effectively disenfranchised by an old-fashioned gerrymander.

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The protestors are being bused in to at least one venue, are solicited by Craigslist ads offering $16/hour in at least some venues. Looks like the same Soros-paid and Creamer-paid protests that have gone on throughout the year.

President Obama just invited Trump and his family to the White House today. And both he and Hillary pledge to work with Trump.

So why doesn't President Obama tell his man Creamer to knock it off?

Creamer visited the Obamas 342 times at the White House in the last 8 years, surely they have some pull with him?

What happened to 'When they go low, we go high?' Obama's peace offering hasn't even lasted one day?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/anti-trump-protesters-admit-answering-craigslist-ad-and-getting-paid-to-protest-trump/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/trump-protests-intensify-as-doubts-swirl-about-spontaneity.html

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I know that facts are like Kryptonite for some people, but Obama got the majority of the electoral and popular votes against both McCain and Romney.

California apparently has some 3 million votes still uncounted - and this being California, one could guess that most of them will be for Clinton, meaning her popular vote lead will increase.

The anger is palatable and justified but still yet nascent - just wait until Trump and his cronies begin to try to fulfill their promises. Things will explode. The only good thing about this election is that America will finally have a chance to see the horror that Republican governance is. We are all Kansans now.

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Fully support ppl's right to protest but when I see young lads vehemently arguing that Hillary won the popular vote and should therefore be declared winner I can't help but think that HC's sense of entitlement to be president ultimately cost her the election.

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Donald Trump has no one to blame but himself for this post election discord.

The moment he decided to run for the presidency, he could have embraced a message of unity and tolerance. Instead, he uttered idiotic statement after idiotic statement, insulting Mexicans, Muslims, so on and so forth. And his core fan base ate it all up and gushed over how he was not afraid to say what was on his non P.C. mind.

By the time the presidential debates started rolling around, Trump tried to change his tune, giving canned statements about how the Latino and African American community were in need of assistance and how he was going to help them. It all rung so hollow. Trump couldn't even make an appearance at a Black church gathering without putting his foot in his mouth and bashing Hillary. And he even called a Black supporter at one of his rallies a thug when he mistakenly thought the protester was against him. Let's not forget that he and his father deliberately refused to rent apartments to Blacks in the 70's.

Too little too late Trump. You made your bed, now you lie in it.

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These protesters are not unlike the riot-inciting race-baiters that hyped up the violence in Missouri and later in Texas. There are also regular peaceful protesters, and I respect their right to protest. But, the violence and extreme profanity does more damage to their cause.

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Hillary won the popular vote, and this year marks a quarter century since a GOP candidate has done so. (Not that that stops them from assuming power anyway.)

2004 Bush won the popular vote.

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yakyak: loot

SenseNotSoCommon: that's a very serious accusation that I do hope you have evidence for, as I've failed to find any.

It wasn't hard. Just typed 'anti-trump looting' into Google News and got 15,100 hits. Here are a couple.

Fires erupts, vandalism reported at anti-Trump protest in Oakland KGO-TV-19 hours ago ... Anti-trump protesters first gathered at Frank Ogawa Plaza ... Several buildings were vandalized and there were reports of looting and building throughout Wednesday night. Police have made several arrests. ...: http://abc7news.com/news/fires-erupts-vandalism-reported-at-anti-trump-protest-in-oakland-/1599421/

Photojournalist Kyle Ludowitz attacked at anti-Donald Trump protest ... Daily Mail-3 hours ago ... attacked while covering an anti-Trump protest in Oakland, California. ... assaulted him as he was taking photos of them looting businesses ...: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3925606/Photojournalist-attacked-covering-anti-Trump-protest-Oakland.html

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"You cannot be a party which on one hand says we're in favor of working people, we're in favor of the needs of young people but we don't quite have the courage to take on Wall Street and the billionaire class," he continued. "People do not believe that. You've got to decide which side you're on."

Bingo Bernie. As said above, they should be angry at the DNC. Very clueless protesters.

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Noliving, you're correct - Bush/Cheney won 50.7% that year in an election that engendered the term "swiftboating" as a draft dodger somehow managed to turn his cowardice into an asset against a Vietnam War veteran. How did that second Bush term turn out, by the way?

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Protest should focus on the people that were able, yet didn't vote. Otherwise...shut it.

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Couldn't agree more with oldman_13.

Trump is solely responsible, but got what he wanted, the deplorables did too. The rest of all, well... we have now all arrived in Trump's alternate reality and its a nightmare from which we cannot wake up for at least 4 years:

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/messages-of-hate-spreading-across-us-following-trump-victory/news-story/90a4d0274f7130f3352a26a6c4354e32

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Suck it up protesters we had a democratic vote and Trump won. That's it. Morons on the street will achieve nothing. We have a new era born. Brexit and Trump. The sordid era of Political Correction and people shouting "racist racist" if you don't agree with your country being invaded by immigrants and changing your culture, is over. I couldn't be happier. GO TRUMP!!

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Thank you, @turbostat

This from SFGate:

Ludowitz, who lives in Oakland, said he didn’t blame city residents for the violence, believing most of it was caused by people coming from other areas to subvert the demonstration.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Photojournalist-attacked-while-covering-Trump-10606690.php

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Why are they protesting? They lost.

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they just make the left look like spoiled immature idiots. A good education in "progressive" politics. it doesnt really engeander respect for the left. whine on, lefties.

@Outrider, A bit too focused on your own personal political right-ness aren't you? Seem to forget the un-affiliated moderate independent people in the country (like me for example) that aren't for arrogant, haughty, selfish, greedy, distrustful people like Trump in office. While I do agree HC wasn't great, I had more trust for her than him. At least with the status quo, it was the devil that I knew, not the one that I didn't.

Time for a united front of un-affiliated independent voters. Now is the best time to start a movement. No more Republican control, NO more Democratic control, YES to more independent moderate control in government by PEOPLE, not ELITIST entrenched political groups. Would be great to see a 50%+ un-affiliated political grouping in Congress and the Senate, etc. That is the best thing to send a message to both parties... not Trump because we don 't like the Hillary. THE MOVEMENT STARTS NOW. SPREAD THE WORD. Unite as Americans, not Democrats, not Republicans, but as PEOPLE and CITIZENS of the US for a better America.

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Without Hillary and Obama to blame at every turn, Republicans will have to govern. All eyes are on you.

We can't wait!

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Instead of protesting they should realize how stupid is their election system meanwhile other countries have direct universal suffrage.

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SenseNotSoCommon: Thank you, @turbostat This from SFGate: Ludowitz, who lives in Oakland, said he didn’t blame city residents for the violence, believing most of it was caused by people coming from other areas to subvert the demonstration. http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Photojournalist-attacked-while-covering-Trump-10606690.php

You're welcome, SenseNotSoCommon.

Ludowitz didn't say he didn't blame protestors. He said he didn't blame "city residents".

You asked yakyak for reports of protestors looting, not for reports of city residents looting.

This from your SFGate link:

A graduate student studying photojournalism at UC Berkeley was sent to an emergency room with a fractured cheekbone and abrasions after four agitators attacked him for taking photos while they looted and vandalized Oakland businesses Wednesday night. ... He said the people who attacked him on Broadway near 19th Street were anarchists in masks and that they began hitting and kicking him for taking photos. They tried to grab his cameras, too, he said. ...

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Any protest looks like meaningless whining, at least in the beginning.

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Yakyak, many can't wait! The WSJ noted recent financial market movements:

The moves partly reflected expectations that a Trump administration would push to scale back financial regulation and increase government spending in a bid to boost economic growth....Thursday’s gains came as the president-elect’s transition team promised to dismantle the Dodd-Frank law, regulation that came out of the financial crisis....Pharmaceutical companies also jumped, with some analysts and investors saying drug-pricing restrictions would have been more likely under Democrat Hillary Clinton. Health-care companies had sold off sharply heading into the election.

Remember all those pesky safeguards instituted after the last financial crisis? - Gone! And the flattening of the medical inflation curve due to the ACA? - Gone! Oh, there is big, big money to be made.

Bond yields have also soared. Investors know the GOP talks a big game on fiscal restraint when in opposition but open the floodgates when in power, so investors are pricing in expected consequent inflation.

So all of these blue-collar Trump supporters can expect Wall Street and Bayer to do well while prices will rise and their government-sponsored services will be slashed. Doesn't get better than this, if you're a net creditor with money to invest!

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Bernie's army crawled out of their parent' basement again to ask for free stuff again.

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@FizzBit

You should hear what he had to say about Trump and Republicans. Yeah, the failure of the DNC and Democratic establishment has a lot to do with Trump's win. That doesn't mean Trump was the better choice by a long shot though. Sanders/Warren 2020!

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You should hear what he had to say about Trump and Republicans. Yeah, the failure of the DNC and Democratic establishment has a lot to do with Trump's win. That doesn't mean Trump was the better choice by a long shot though.

According to the map, he was.

Sanders/Warren 2020!

That will never happen.

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US current political system is balancing three government bodies of Supreme Court, Congess and President. If President wants to spend huge money or waging war, congress approval is required.

Due to Trump overwhelmingly success, US no longer has opposition party movement. If Trump wanted to spend fortune, congress will rubber stamped it. If Trump wants to wage the war as Bush, Congress will not say no.

Supreme Court judges are hand picked by Trump or GOP. If Trump wants to do third amendments, it is plain sailing too.United States has become People Repubic of America with one party dominance.

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United States has become People Repubic of America with one party dominance.

Yes, the US and China each have their respective versions of The Party running things.

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Essentially, Trump won in a reasonably democratic system of voting. So the result has to be accepted. Instead of anti-Trump protestors being angry with whatever it is they are angry at, the hard truth is that the majority of your own fellow Americans voted for Donald Trump to be your president. So any anger or sadness should be redirected towards the fact that a majority of Americans unbelievably voted for this guy to be your president.

Now the other question is whether the election should be allowed to stand when clearly the director of the FBI made a statement that definitely affected voting for Clinton, and then withdrew the claims a week later. If that had happened to Trump he would have been suing everyone and calling for a re-election.

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Some protesting should be expected. Trump said some pretty horrible things about women and minorities. Walk a mile in their shoes.

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"Brexit and Trump"

Don't forget Duterte.

We may even get the knuckle-dragging Le Pen next year. Exciting times, eh?

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so Clinton actually had more people vote for her than Trump, yet Trump won the election!? the same thing happend to Gore when he lost to Bush in 2000. Republicans then have the gall to say the system is rigged! LOL there's something seriously fudged up with the US electoral system!

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Jim, Brexit was a doddle compared to this guy. And even though fellow Brits were fooled by Farage and Boris, their (52%) overall feeling for the EU was one of wanting to go it alone. Although the government are now in a mess over how to manage the exit. But as for the Americans. I dont think that even us Brits could put someone like that in power.

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You asked yakyak for reports of protestors looting, not for reports of city residents looting

No I didn't. Do pay attention, turbotsat.

Thanks for sharing, though, that it was anarchists - who profess no interest in elections or results - doing the looting.

Perhaps their disinterest is justified:

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."

@realDonaldTrump, 1:45 PM - 7 Nov 2012

http://infoshop.org/Voting

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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@Tigers

That's fair enough. I'm no patriot but I'm also convinced the UK couldn't put something as preposterous as Trump into power. Watching the comical televangelists/frauds on US TV conning people out of their money was a terrifying sight. Almost as terrifying as Trump's antics.

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@TigersToDo the majority of your own fellow Americans voted for Donald Trump to

Technically wrong. Clinton had slightly more popular votes.

The system was NOT rigged. But now with The Party uber alles a shrinking of the Inner Party and an expansion of Proles can be expected.

Can The Party keep the Proles 'well-fed and distracted' like in Orwell's 1984?

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Jim, I'd also argue that the UK needs to review its Brexit decision. Nothing to do with economics but the fact that Trump has described NATO as 'obsolete'. Not a great idea to leave Europe with Putin eager for a scrap and Donald looking inward.

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The system was NOT rigged. But now with The Party uber alles a shrinking of the Inner Party and an expansion of Proles can be expected.

The US looked like a sea of red and you say, they're shrinking? Wow! Lol

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Technically wrong. Clinton had slightly more popular votes.

The system was NOT rigged.

Which is it then? If your argument reminds us that Clinton had the popular vote, then how can Trump with the unpopular vote become president and it not being rigged?

I never said the system was rigged. I said that the Director of the FBI influenced voting on the election.

Even if Clinton wins the popular vote (by about 200,000 out of 120 million), the harsh truth is that around 50% of voting Americans had the unbelievable lack of foresight to vote for such a being.

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Strangerland, Good post. I with you, and if hillary had won and there were protests I would be saying exactly the same thing.

Goldorak, also, good post.

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The system was NOT rigged

But the Donald insisted it was in 2012. (And right up to this week).

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@bass The US looked like a sea of red and you say, they're shrinking? Wow! Lol

Whoosh!

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Bill Murphy, "the stab in the back" , one of hitlers favorite topics. And the brownshirts are rioting on the streets in the US.

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It was still rigged. But not rigged enough to overcome the opposition.

The Democrats didn't roll over and stop rigging the vote just to be honest in the general election, after torpedoing Bernie in the primary with rigged votes.

The head of the DNC was passing Hillary debate questions a month before the general, do you think they'd stop the rigging? For what reason? Kindness? Change of heart? Bored with Hillary?

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turbostat, exactly. And the dirty tricks are continueing with these riots.

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Lock up the vandals, hoodlums, and criminals.

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@Bill Murphy

Come one, come all! It's time to play WHO STABBED HILLARY IN THE BACK!

haha :) I say it's probably just swing voters. I'd really love to see a venn diagram showing how many Trump voters also voted for Obama in either 2012 or 2008. If it's true that swing voters decided the election, there should be a large number of them. Perhaps this is why the 'deplorables' comment backfired on Hillary? Maybe she can try again in 2020 and aim to be both the first woman and the oldest President in history? Never underestimate the geriatric vote.

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These rioters and flag burners are obamas and hillarys people. And if ever anyone was "going low". its those rioters. I guess " we go high" is just an empty expression useful for dodging difficult questions - which is exactly how hillary used it, if you care to check.

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Strangerland wrote: "What I don't get is what the end goal of the protestors is. It's not like Trump is going to suddenly say 'oh, you don't want me? Ok, I'll bow out'" ............................................................................ Strangerland, you're just thinking on a different level than they are - or perhaps just thinking. How's this: "Being virtuous and righteous means never having to say you're sorry."

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Have to speculate how many of these protesters actually turned out to vote?......or just took it for granted that Hilary Clinton was just going to waltz into the White House, through some sort of divine right.

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Strangerland, you're just thinking on a different level than they are - or perhaps just thinking. How's this: "Being virtuous and righteous means never having to say you're sorry."

You realize the the new president has never said sorry right?

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Forgive my rudeness, I mean Hillary Clinton.

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Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor and a high-profile Trump supporter, called the demonstrators “a bunch of spoiled cry-babies” in an interview with Fox News.

Oh, fabulous. Here's a meme I don't need.

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Hi M3M3M3, Some stats, exit polls, haven't yet fully read the United States Election Project data. Believe from a glance all based on estimates, drill down left hand for voter turnout demographics. Believe these numbers use cross tabulation model from 2014 census data.

Election 2016: Exit Polls......

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

2016 November General Election Turnout Rates

http://www.electproject.org/2016g

RCP 2016 Election: President.....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2016_general/president/

How false, two faced, shallow and fickle, some of Europe's political elite appear to behave. In one breath Trumps a figure of hate, the next he's there best friend. Step forward Boris Johnson & co.

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Fact is Mr. Trump cannot act like he talked in election campaign ; if he does he will face worst reactions, people are highly volatile worse than nuclear weapons; people are highly sensitive beings, they first express their anger if not noted, they react very very badly that is called social emotive actions; so he cannot work rashly as he spoke, so sobriety is needed when one occupies the high office; so people no doubt give chance to any one but that 'anyone' in high office ought to behave very soberly; see Japanese don't want to use US troops stationed in Japan at such huge costs, so Japanese would compromise with their own opponents instead of trusting just 'defence forces' that is called the human behavior; Mrs Clinton made a serious mistake when she scarcely visited to speak unlike Bernie sanders in the democrats stronghold that costed her ; else she would have been in the white house in stead of Mr Trump who took that opportunity got several 'democrats' votes that tilted things in his favor when analyses the results as we saw very close race is it not?

so politics is not a very easy job, that every politician need to realize is my considered view.

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@itsonlyrocknroll

Thank you! I can always rely on you to dig up some very interesting data. 1 in 5 of Clinton's own voters didn't even think she was honest, wow. It also made me laugh: 'What do you expect for the next generation of Americans?' 59% of HC voters said better, 63% of Trump voters said worse... but I think the follow-up question for Trump voters should probably have been 'is that because of the vote you have just cast or in spite of it?‘ :) . I agree about the two faced politicians in Europe, there will be quite a few uncomfortable handshakes and embarrassed smiles in the coming months.

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All right, back to work, you clowns! Oh wait, there aren't any jobs! Thanks, Obama/Clinton! Jobs are coming though - Big League!

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The Party now has the executive, legislative, and soon the judicial branches under their control. It will be interesting to watch how they handle disagreements and criticisms of any sort.

There is this thing called the Constitution, your worries are unfounded.

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Jobs are coming though - Big League! LOL and how is Trump going to do that, put huge tariffs on all Chinese goods. US doesnt want to get into a trade war with China or theyll get shut out of the Chinese market as fast as China is shut out of theirs. Last I checked Chinas market has much more growth potential the US. Big business interests wont allow congress to get bills passed to support many of Trumps ideals, as many congressmen are in the pockets of these business. If you think Trump will get any meaning jobs back from China without starting a trade war you deluded Im afraid.

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Strangerland at Nov. 11, 2016 - 08:49PM JST Strangerland, you're just thinking on a different level than they are - or perhaps just thinking. How's this: "Being virtuous and righteous means never having to say you're sorry." .......................................................................................................... Strangerland replied: "You realize that the new president has never said sorry right?" ..........................................................................................................

And neither Mr. Trump nor I have said he was virtuous. The "they" I refer to above are those protesters - a minority who nevertheless have their actions magnified by the media - who have chosen to destroy private and public property and call it a protest against the election of Donald Trump. They are the spiritual descendants of the SDS (google it, youngsters). At the October, 1968 SDS National Council meeting in Boulder, Colorado a resolution was adopted that read: "The Elections Don't Mean Shit - Vote Where the Power Is - Our Power Is In The Street." The resolution had been prompted by the success of the Democratic National Convention protests in Chicago in August, 1968. (Wikipedia: "Days of Rage" article). Those protests ended with a small group of young people vandalizing shops downtown. A classmate of mine who witnessed it said the vandals really enjoyed it. Virtue has its rewards it seems. The 1968 protesters never thought it necessary to apologize and I'm sure those of today would agree. Thank institutions of higher learning for this crop of scholars of superior virtue.

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Hi M3 It's a pleasure, view from the Izakaya, the projections detailed in Untied States Election Project data estimates that, voter eligible population that didn’t vote measures 99,815,122 (43.2 percent) from a total of 231,556,622......Trump slipped in under the radar.

Like Trump or loath him, Donald Trump has spent not one day in any political office. I am not crying foul, congratulations are in order. Some of those protesters did not vote and their protest, is more an act of remorseful self repentance.

It could be argued that same behavior in the EU referendum. Right up until the voting began, the UK media and pollsters were spinning/insisting a remain result was a foregone conclusion...

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I'm suprised that people here are expecting there will be no protest. Americans on both side are very strong on their opinions, I expect Trump will faced this kind of protests in his 4 years in office. Other world leaders will breath a sigh of relief as all attentions will be on him now bad or worse lol.

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Big Unions are agitating. Older people who have been paying more under obsmacare do not go out maybe. But they must be glad Trump won. News says Trump is getting info about low income people's need than war or phony college promise zsaners was telling youngsters.

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Dang, I was hoping the end of the election would mute some of the conspiracy theorists here, but they're still going strong. Not much meat on the bone for discussion.

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Lock up the vandals, hoodlums, and criminals

Better still, impeach. Beware the Ides of March.

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"David Duke, a former Imperial Wizard of the KKK, hailed Trump's election "one of the most exciting nights of my life" and rejoiced in the fact that "our people" helped him keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House."

Opportunist taking advantage of Trump's win. There was a silent majority that refused to speak for fear of persecution by the liberals (I am horrified because they look like brainwashed robots. They compare Trump to Hitler, but they are the ones acting like nazis with the indoctrination of their children. I am the granddaughter of a late statesman in a different country and my parents did not even involve me in such things. While everyone was enthusiastic with campaign, etc., to me, he was just my grandfather [so I could not understand why they were treating me like some big deal]).

And to assume that most of Trump's voters were white, consider this: In Central Pennsylvania, over 80% of Muslims VOTED FOR TRUMP. Women voted for Trump. Hispanics voted for Trump. Asians voted for Trump. Blacks voted for Trump. The Washington Post kept calming the libs by saying that the silent majority for Trump did not exist. Well, they spoke with their votes. Machines in Pennsylvania were rigged, changing Trump votes to Clinton votes. Obama gave the okay for ILLEGAL aliens to vote (I immigrated LEGALLY to the United States, now I am a citizen. Even as a legal permanent resident, I could NOT vote in federal elections [local yes, federal no]), perhaps the only President who did such a thing. My Facebook newsfeed was flooded with "I voted. Herstory about to be made." All of mainstream media assumed Hillary would win. When writing about the next president, "she" and "her" were used. Then, once the counts progressed, those who were looking forward to Herstory were suddenly losing their minds. The glass ceiling broke from all the shoes thrown at it during their tantrums.

As to civil rights, I am of Southeast Asian origin, my son is gay. We're fine with the results.

I did not vote for Trump; neither did I vote for Hillary. I just said I would accept and support the winner. I challenged people on my friends list and asked them if they would do the same. There is a winner, so it seems I got my answer. No. They are all presumptuous sore losers. They all had one thing in common: liberals, globalists, feminazis, entitled, SJWs. The simple quiet folk just went on with their lives.

Trump gave a very humble, gracious victory speech. Hillary's 'concession' speech did not even sound like a concession speech.

A look back, when Trump as a candidate and Obama were exchanging tweets (or Obama was answering tweets on television). Trump tweeted that Obama would go down in history as the worst president of the United States. Obama answered that at least he would go down as President (implying Trump wouldn't win). Fast forward to today. Barack Obama, meet the man the American people elected as President despite all your media manipulation, lawlessness in allowing illegal aliens to vote and rigged machines that switched votes: Donald Trump.

All I prayed for was the upholding of the Constitution. (And I'm happy Trey Gowdy was elected again.^^ He will provide the checks and balances.)

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They had reasons to vote for Trump. American economies were down. UAW opposed automation of factories and GM, Ford etch moved too China. Obstructing automation created more unemployment. But Unions are instigating anti Trump crowd.

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These are not peaceful protests. These are violent rioters who are committing a variety of crimes and violence and are the ones denying civil rights to the rest of america who just wants to live without fear of being attacked by some leftist violent crybaby.

The left wing socialist democrats have been exposed for the hateful, intolerant, violent bigoted dividers they really are.

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Strangerland: You realize the the new president has never said sorry right?

You realize the OLD president has never said sorry, right?

Or even called off his dogs. Or even retracted 'If they go low, we go high!'. Has he even addressed his Creamer problem in any way?

If they ARE his dogs, and not the other way around.

It's been assumed that Creamer was subordinate to Obama. Given that Soros and Creamer have both involved in funding these kinds of protests, the Craigslist ads are still being used to call for paid protestors, and the likelihood that Soros was a billionaire who picked Obama rather than the other way around, maybe Obama is subordinate to Creamer, as well. Or at least mentored by Creamer.

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not my president. agree

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The American electorate have placed their faith, livelihoods, and healthcare in the hands of Donald J Trump.

Like it or lump it. That democratic mandate for better or for worse, has to be respected, the first one hundred days will be a eye opener. The protesters need to put up or shut up. Trump won fair and square. Now Trump will have to deliver, and woe betide him if this merry-go-round turns out match the performance of a “Trump University” mentor-ship programme.

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This is exactly the kind of behavior that ultimately handed Trump the election.

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The spectacle of Democrat Harry Reid arrogant dismissal of the very principals of democracy, a system of government in which power is vested in the people, supported by an electoral process, is contemptible. I am not a supporter of Donald Trump. However Citizens of the United States have made their choice and elected Donald Trump. Senator Harry Reid inflammatory statements, stirring and inciting fear and loathing will guarantee Donald Trump a second term.

“The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America,” the veteran Nevada senator said. “White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and Isis are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are racked with fear.”

Democrats begin fight against Trump: his election 'does not feel like America'.....

Harry Reid issues blistering statement decrying president-elect’s ‘forces of hate and bigotry’ as Elizabeth Warren urges voters to put in the work to resist Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/11/democrats-harry-reid-elizabeth-warren-donald-trump

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I don't think Trump done anything yet. What are they protesting? Anyone know what he did to be protested?

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toshiko: I don't think Trump done anything yet. What are they protesting? Anyone know what he did to be protested?

Orange hair. Spray tan. Not a female. Cheated Hillary of her rightful due ('It was Her turn!!!'). etc etc

I don't know why Soros and/or Creamer are still funding protestors, especially after having been exposed. Maybe the money's still in the pipeline, moving outward. Maybe they have dreams of upping the US protest rate to match European levels.

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These protest were planed long before the election. Just like Hillary was the democratic nominee years before and no one else had a chance period.

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You realize the OLD president has never said sorry, right?

Nothing to apologize for. He'll go down in history as one of the best presidents ever.

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Strangerland: Nothing to apologize for. He'll go down in history as one of the best presidents ever.

From the same base of thought that caused so many to be disappointed on Election Night.

But I guess you're right, re "history". As history is written by the historians, and future historians will be consulting references written by the college professors and media of today.

We know how that will go!

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What are they protesting? Anyone know what he did to be protested?

Orange hair. Spray tan. Not a female. Cheated Hillary of her rightful due ('It was Her turn!!!')

Really? You can't think of anything else he's said or done that people may find distasteful? Nothing at all?

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Toshiko, I agree completely.

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Nothing to apologize for. He'll go down in history as one of the best presidents ever.

To his supporters and the media, Yeah, that might be true, but for the majority, No.

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He'll go down in history as one of the best presidents ever.

Sure. All he needs to do is backtrack on a couple of issues: hate speech on immigrants, women, the wall, health insurance, free trade agreements, overseas bases, lying, climate, CO2 emissions, the military, etc.

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Some will never grow up. After Obama's wins, at least the conservatives were not out rioting and destroying property. Shows what kind of people support Hillary and the "Establishment".

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Strangerland: Really? You can't think of anything else he's said or done that people may find distasteful? Nothing at all?

Really? Can you think of something worth protesting?

How about 'basket of deplorables'? You really think Hillary would be inviting hordes of scruffy ragamuffins to her White House just because they were protesting for her?

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How about 'basket of deplorables'? You really think Hillary would be inviting hordes of scruffy ragamuffins to her White House just because they were protesting for her?

Nope, but that's entirely irrelevant to the point I was making. You claimed this:

What are they protesting? Anyone know what he did to be protested?

Orange hair. Spray tan. Not a female. Cheated Hillary of her rightful due ('It was Her turn!!!')

We're talking about why people are protesting Trump, not about what Hillary would have done had she won. So I'll ask again:

Really? You can't think of anything else he's said or done that people may find distasteful? Nothing at all?

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I -joked- this: "Orange hair. Spray tan. Not a female. Cheated Hillary of her rightful due ('It was Her turn!!!')"

And I did answer this:

SL: Really? You can't think of anything else he's said or done that people may find distasteful? Nothing at all?

with this:

ts: Can you think of something worth protesting?

which you didn't bother to reply to.

To be more specific, I can't think of anything he's said or done that's worth protesting.

Don't forget that protestors are still being hired on Craiglist. And multiple paid protestors have been linked to Soros and Creamer. There's no reason for them to stop fanning the flames just because Hillary lost.

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And I did answer this:

SL: Really? You can't think of anything else he's said or done that people may find distasteful? Nothing at all?

with this:

ts: Can you think of something worth protesting?

The question wasn't whether I can. Obviously I can or I wouldn't have made the comment. The question is whether you can. Which you seem to not want to answer. I think we all know why.

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M3M3M3NOV. 11, 2016 - 10:27PM JST

@itsonlyrocknroll

Thank you! I can always rely on you to dig up some very interesting data. 1 in 5 of Clinton's own voters didn't even think she was honest, wow. It also made me laugh: 'What do you expect for the next generation of Americans?' 59% of HC voters said better, 63% of Trump voters said worse

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

No. You put it wrong way. The data shows 1 in 5 people who said "Clinton is not honest" voted for Clinton. Not the other way around, and we cannot tell how many of Clinton voters thought Clinton is not honest.

Likewise, 59% of people who said "better" to the question "What do you expect for the next generation of Americans?" voted for Clinton, whereas 63% of people who said "worse" voted for Trump. In other words, optimistic people tend to vote for Clinton whereas pessimistic people tend to vote for Trump.Not the other way around.

This episode just reinforces the characteristics of Trump supporters.

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This episode just reinforces the characteristics of Trump supporters.

Yeah we had one poster on here who read the statistics that 63% of people who make under $30,000/year supported Clinton, and then went on for days claiming that 63% of Clinton supporters make under $30,000/year.

They read things they way they want to, rather than the way they are.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ku-klux-klan-hold-north-230227525.html

"In 1927, Donald Trump's father was arrested after a KKK riot in Queens when over 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighbourhood."

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree........

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Strangerland: The question wasn't whether I can. Obviously I can or I wouldn't have made the comment. The question is whether you can. Which you seem to not want to answer. I think we all know why.

Really? In my last post I posted exactly this: "To be more specific, I can't think of anything he's said or done that's worth protesting."

But for some reason you see fit to quote only the first part of the post, leaving that part out.

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Obama is now irrelevant! And I resent the fact that I need to mention that he has aided terrorism by having directly or indirectly allowed US tax payers' money to be illegally channeled to support groups in the ME. He failed to (with full knowledge) prevent ISIL from conducting trade in illegal transport and the sale of oil! He also is guilty of blocking investigations into the true facts of 911!

By doing so, he is in breach of his oath of office and the tenets of the US Constitution.....

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The rabble on the street - hillarys darlings.

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@CH3CHO

No. You put it wrong way. The data shows 1 in 5 people who said "Clinton is not honest" voted for Clinton.

Yes, you're right. Clearly, it's only 1 in 5 Clinton voters who also chose to participate in this exit poll. The real number is obviously going to be lower, which is why I was a bit surprised.

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He'll go down in history as one of the best presidents ever. >>>>Sure. All he needs to do is backtrack on a couple of issues: hate speech on immigrants, women, the wall, health insurance, free trade agreements, overseas bases, lying, climate, CO2 emissions, the military, etc.

I apologize for this. Some lines got crossed somewhere. I agree with Strangerland's original post, the first sentence in the quote.

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Don't worry, years from now all these whiny crybabies will be Trump supporters after Trump makes America great again. Then, they'll be whining and crying because Trump has to leave office after 8 years.

But don't worry Trump's children can succeed him and keep America great for decades.

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Bunch of college kids who have grown up having their normal lives made into narratives of empowerment now facing the fact that they did not win in the last fair and free democratic election. For those looking to dig a bit deeper into this and well reasoned response, not partisan but logical....check out: http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/

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