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© Copyright 2019 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.AP Fact Check: Trump's epic speech laced with false statements
By Kevin Freking, Hope Yen and Calvin Woodward WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
75 Comments
plasticmonkey
Let me guess. This article is not credible because it’s “bias”. Or what about Dems? Or what’s wrong with lying? Or libs try so very hard . . .
David Varnes
Basically, it was a 2 hour, 27 minute rant of falsehoods, bloviating, self puffery, lies, deceit, and fear mongering.
Chip Star
Why waste time fact-checking Dimwit Donny? The real news is when he doesn't lie.
It's safest to assume everything falling from his lips is inaccurate.
Chip Star
This was great:
The team is not known to be particularly or historically angry.
Chip Star
Dumpster Fire can't even be honest about this:
Trump actually left the White House plenty of times during the "months and months" surrounding the partial government shutdown that began Dec. 22.
How could anyone with a measurable intelligence believe anything this guy says?
Master negotiators/8-D chess players don't forget things this quickly or fabricate their moves.
CrazyJoe
Trump's most fervent supporters prove that you actually can fool some of the people all of the time.
stormcrow
What a horse's ass.
And talking about the war on Socialism, these are the same people who are against providing free school lunches and milk to poor kids.
What the hell's wrong with these people?
Kobe White Bar Owner
People with NPD like Donnie fiasco don't live in the real world, they twist reality to suit themselves and their mouths are full of verbal diarrhoea.
Blacklabel
pathetic and petty fact check.
Unemployment is “down to” can in fact mean the lowest point. Which it was at 3.7 percent.
I stopped reading after the “angry” fact check. How can you face check an emotion?
Strangerland
But are they accurate? And if not, which ones are incorrect?
No, the word 'is' is the present tense of the verb 'to be'. It refers to the current state of events. If they were referring to the lowest point, it would be 'has gone down to [as much as] 3.7 percent'.
Blacklabel
Despite the grammar police the unemployment rate was in fact 3.7 percent. Also it’s petty to say he didn’t get 306! He only got 304! I’m not wasting my time past that because these 2 show it’s just a biased fact check.
Did Trump also visit 57 states? That one seemed to be ok to say without a “fact check”
Strangerland
You're right, it was. But you were whining that they claimed it's at 4.0%, which it is. So you were whining about them saying the truth. Why do you hate the truth?
Haaa Nemui
When people have a spew at the media for inaccuracies, however small they may be, then said people need to speak the truth in its entirety. Trump... As one of said people... Doesn't.
Haaa Nemui
57, clearly incorrect, does not need to be fact-checked as people already know the fact. But if you Republicans want to do it then by all means go ahead.
Blacklabel
I said they were petty actually. And misleading. And you can’t fact check opinion.
If im not angry how can I manufacture outrage? You need a new catch phrase.
Well ok you put a FAQ on your website. You get ridiculed and take it down. Is it a fact they when someone mentions whet you said the things in the FAQ, it is a lie. Cause it was obviously erroneously posted. Nope. Or the liberal world technically, you didn’t say it you wrote it.
Jimizo
Trump is in a great situation with his base. He can lie non-stop and they do not care.
I just think they should be honest about his lying and expect better.
Blacklabel
Honest eye? With your honest eye It’s a”lie” when you say 306 instead of 304? That’s so important to call out? Or when you get fact checked when indicating that people are angry (an emotion)? Can this fact checker really prove this is a lie? Nope.
BlackFlagCitizen
So what else is new? The man has been lying about everything and anything from the get go. You can pretty much assume half of what comes out of his mouth is a lie.
lincolnman
The delution of the Trumpers - the crazy is strong with them.
The Great Orange Idiot goes on stage and does what he always does, engage in a unhinged lunatic-like rant, that even a "fifth or sixth grader" would know contains mostly bald-faced lies.
And yet his supporters, who evidently operate on an academic level below that, just enjoy the ride.
Trumpers fail to undestand the difference between governing and entertaining (if that's what you call what Donnie does). Third-rate lounge acts belong in Las Vegas, not the White House...
But life for the Dimwit is going to get much more difficult - all the names that Cohen dropped in his testimony will soon or have already been interviewed by Mueller and the NY SD Attorney.
The Trump Crime family will be dissected and dismantled piece by piece, and none too soon...
Haaa Nemui
Interesting that the Republican response to Trump's lie riddled speech being fact-checked amounts to "How dare you!"
Strangerland
Did you not read the article? Where does it call it a lie? The word use is 'falsehood' and as it is inaccurate, it most definitely is a falsehood. A lie would require intent to deceive, and as often as not, Trump just doesn't know what he is talking about.
Showing the president to be to incompetent to even know what he is talking about is quite important.
Again you are the one using the term 'lie'. That said, once again you haven't bothered to reference what you are talking about.
Strangerland
That's all they have left. Then they get annoyed when you point out how they dared to for eight straight years, and have no standing to whine about it being done to them.
yamada1043
The farcial Donald J. Trump does not know what the truth is ... period.
Deadforgood
blacklabel
Why are you so opposed to media fact checks? They are just doing what Trump wants them to, to tell the truth. If Trump wants to lie about his un-accomplishments, then its his fault for looking like a lying chump.
Trump supporters are more and more embarrassed by the day. Its never too late to change your minds and grow up.
Haaa Nemui
So now Republicans are Marxist. Cheers.
Blacklabel
Its petty and biased. Im done with it.
The fact check of Obama 57 states comment was called a "mixture" of fact and truth because he obviously misspoke and was "dog tired". Ok, I know the President of the USA knows how many states there are. So I dont run around trying to claim he lied or is stupid or something. Thats the opposite thing of what you do with Trump though. I have never seen the liberal media make an excuse for him like they do with Dem politicians.
The FAQ was on the persons official website, but it was obviously incorrect and was removed and disavowed and .....so Trump lied when he said she said it!
As are all your liberal buddies, its the point of the article to infer this.
All done here.
rlperez@hotmail.com.au
I wonder the mentality of the American people that they vote for a deranged reality TV actor. More alarming is the fact that they cannot get rid of him.
SuperLib
So we know Trump lies a lot. His fans don't care and they never will.
bass4funk
Gee, that’s one, I have about 30 more the media missed.
lincolnman
That pretty much encapsulates how Trumpers interact with facts and reality - "don't want to hear it, done with it"...
And that's exactly what the right wing media empire wants them to think - come back to your safe far-right bubble where the whole word can be viewed thru the simple lens of Lib and Con, where Trump is a faithful husband, doesn't lie, has never had any dealings with Russia, and has the world's most attractive hair....
They con them into buying their books and clicking on their sites - bilking and scamming them out of money they probably don't have. And what's really both funny and tragic, is that they're not conservative or believe in any of this far-right conspiracy BS - they just make it up and publish it because it makes them money.
And these right wing media and pundit top one-percenters laugh all the way to the bank at the blind sheep that follow them...
Chip Star
Facts are facts, there is no bias involved. If Trump weren't an incompetent pathological liar, this fact check wouldn't exist at all. Accept that Trump is incompetent and a pathological liar instead of constantly trying to find bias in every article about him.
Chip Star
You literally do this with everything a democrat says.
bass4funk
For liberals it would appear that way, I get it.
Funny, the so called educated elite alumni liberal crowds think that their Washington socialist counterparts have the facts straight and the only thing they have are politicians that have some of the longest noses and their millennial followers swallow it seeds and all. AOC, Bernie are great examples of this, but the comedy doesn’t stop there, now you have liberal socialists that will lie, bend the facts and take on positions they previously would have never touched with a 10 foot poll.
Life may be more difficult, but not unbearable because the Dems are already showing signs of rapidly becoming damaged goods and now that Mueller’s report is looking more and more like it’s not going to be politically devastating to the President weasel Spliff is now putting the Russian hoax aside and moving the goalpost and saying, we have to look into his previous business dealings....well, if that’s the case and that’s all they have, Trump should be floating on thin air, so at the very best they get an indictment on some business deal. The GOP will laugh these people out of the room.
And in the meantime while they again waste time and squander another opportunity to do something for the people instead of themselves they have this to worry about:
In SC there was a random poll taken of 5000 people conducted by an Emerson poll and the results are for the 2020 predictions so far are:
SOUTH CAROLINA
2020 GE:
Trump 52% (+4)
Biden 48%
.
Trump 54% (+8)
Warren 46%
.
Trump 54% (+8)
Sanders 46%
.
Trump 54% (+8)
Booker 46%
But yeah, let the Democrats go chasing after more rabbits, fine with me. Lol
Deadforgood
@bass
SC voted 54.9% for Trump in 2016. And Trump barely won the election. What's your point here? That he has become slightly less popular in a Conservative state?
jcapan
OK, I'll bite. SOUTH CAROLINA!? The last Democrat to win a presidential election in SC was Jimmy-Georgia-Peanut-Farming-Carter. Before him it was JFK. That's twice in nearly 60 years. I could choose from a number of states to reverse your amazing poll numbers. Would California be to your liking--would that indicate anything about Trump's national appeal?
Jimizo
Defending Trump the man takes a special kind of compartmentalism in the brain.
I can kind of understand the idea that people are willing to accept his vulgarity, ignorance, childishness, trash and constant stream of falsehoods as long as he gets the things they want done.
Defending the man just makes the people who do it look dishonest.
JJ Jetplane
@ Chip Star
Fact checking is not a new phenomenon and it doesn't have anything to do with Trump. Fact checking Politicians and Presidents began in 2004. Bush and Obama's speeches were always fact checked. The reason why it is becoming more known is simply because of the rise of social media which has increased the rate and speed at which information on the internet spreads.
SuperLib
2.6% growth rate with more slowing expected. Probably because all of that investment and new jobs created by the corporate tax cuts.
Serrano
The Trump administration has been quite good for America. I hope it continues for another six years.
Chip Star
I'm well aware of the history of fact-checking. My post was very clear that it's a waste of time with Dimwit Donny because he's incorrect so often.
Strangerland
Um, it was the Republicans who crashed the economy. And started two wars, one based on lies.
Deadforgood
The house judiciary committee is about to fact check Donald's kids. Which probably means at least 1 of them is going to screw up and omit the wrong document and get them all charged for obstruction of justice. All for daddy. Trump supporters should be more concerned about fact checks that really matter, not an AP article that confirms once again that Trump is a pathological liar.
bass4funk
That’s just one State. At this point and the way Democrats are going and with more and more
Blacks waking up and finally realizing that States like Illinois will never lower the crime rate if they continue the elect Democrats.
California is thankfully not the entire country. Keep it
bass4funk
Ok and then?
I really think Democrats are fishing for....God knows what and then nothing will come of it or if it does then Trump will pardon them, life will go on or if Weissmann tries to do something shady (he always does) they can appeal it and like with so many of his mafia like scare tactics to find anything to lock people up, it will be appealed overturned, either way, the Dems never learn, they didn’t learn in 2010 and they really didn’t learn in 2014.
1glenn
Trump lied? Why, I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
Deadforgood
Brilliant, not only have you admitted that Trump will pardon anybody convicted of collusion with russia, you've also admitted that Trump's money man is a shady character who always does shady things (with trump's money, under trump's order).
I think you are fishing pretty hard for hope, Trumps approval is worse than 2016. GOP is now voting against him. His entire 2016 campaign team is starting to be indicted, prosecuted, and sentenced. Almost every country is laughing at him. Good luck bass, hope you know how to swim.
You can't keep making stuff up and expect us to believe you.
JJ Jetplane
Wait...Chicago is not the state?
You are aware that black people only account for 15% of the population in Illinois? That 15% is comprised of those that can vote and cannot vote.
bass4funk
There won’t be a Russian collusion with ?Trump, even Cohen, a convicted felon, liar and closest to Trump doesn’t think so and he threw everything at the President, so that theory is gone.
Cohen is going to prison, I don’t think he’ll get 3 years, I’m sure Clinton acolyte Lanny Davis will do whatever he can to reduce his sentence.
I don’t think so
Actually, Trump’s approval is a bit higher, not great, but given the circumstances and being a bit over 40%, that’s not great news for the Democrats, this is why they are going through great lengths to do maximum damage to his character as long as they can to drive hopefully his poll numbers down.
Good luck.....no planes, no meat, 70% tax hike...ROFL!
Chip Star
Look at the logic failure here! Cohen is a liar so can't be believed except when he is saying there was no collusion. Uh . . . That's not what Cohen said, he said he wasn't aware of any. Keep thrashing around, grasping at straws.
That's what lawyers are paid to do. You simply can't resist throwing in irrelevant references to Clinton, Obama, or Dems. It's an unhealthy compulsion with you.
None of this is accurate, which isn't a surprise given the source. ROFL! Smh. Lol! Kudos! I have a personal anecdote for every situation!
Deadforgood
What are you talking about? The investigation is still on, Meuller's report has yet to be released, and 60 more people are now being investigated.
This is random. The original post was about Trump's money man, the shady guy, as you put it. Not Trump's fixer. You really need to learn how to defend an argument.
The only poll that puts his approval rate higher than his 47% at the time of elections is rassmussen. It's dropped. Don't trust me, trust the poll average. Believe in your made up percent all you want though.
JJ Jetplane
Regardless of whether we like Trump or not, we need to be honest about a few things. Trump is not an idiot. Trump has consistently been suspected of breaking numerous laws especially during his early business days. He is good at not leaving direct connections.
As for the Russia collusion case, most of what they seem to have against him is circumstantial evidence. You can’t build a federal case on circumstances. Circumstances can be considered an impeachable offense, but not enough to make a judge want to bring an indictment down on a president.
The nature of his position, as the president, affords him some protection as it can be considered complete career suicide for a judge to indict a President on circumstance.
That is why they are looking for a “smoking gun.”
JenniSchiebel
When a politician who you like says something inaccurate, he or she "misspeaks."
When one you don't like does the same thing, he or she "lies."
Human nature at work again.
Toasted Heretic
Boring.
He lies, his fanbase lap it up. Reality doesn't get a look in.
Facts are presented, checked and still the truth is a bitter pill for some.
No need to read the comments from the faithful, it will be the usual diatribes about liberals.
Ugh.
ClippetyClop
If a politician lies as often as Trump does, most of us tend not to like them in the first place. Since you've bought all his lies so far, it must be hard be bothered about any new ones.
Toasted Heretic
Do you think it's fair on the American people to have a leader who lies to them on a daily basis?
Does it not sicken you, the sheer contempt he has for the electorate?
WilliB
Having checked previous "fact checks" from AP, NYT and other fake media, I am not even bothering with these one. Not in the mood to digest more fake concocted partisan misrepresentations.
Toasted Heretic
Isn't that a bit, well, partisan of you?
Where do you get your facts from, regarding this speech?
Serrano
Defending Trump the man takes a special kind of compartmentalism in the brain.
Trashing Trump for virtually everything he says or does, no matter if it's clearly good/the right thing to do ( meeting and talking with Kim Jong Un / not agreeing to a bad deal ) indicates Trump Derangement Syndrome.
The only poll that puts his approval rate higher than his 47% at the time of elections is rassmussen
No polls said he would win the 2016 election. heh
The only poll that really counts of course is the one on election day and it's going to be sweet.
Trump 2020
bass4funk
Do you know why? Think! Mueller and his merrily posse of Democrat Clinton supporter lawyers and not to mention her best buddy Lanny Davis, they would do anything to get to Trump and Cohen for Spliff and Cummings is the key, so if he didn’t even have the very thing that Democrats planted in the minds of DTS haters then one might say with the greatest of certainty Cohen really couldn’t definitively say. So on that one, I believe him.
Ok, you can believe that, I’m not stupid, Lanny Davis being Cohen’s lawyer, we all know what’s up. Sneaky, but not at all surprising, NYC has over 3,000 lawyers and Cohen happens to get the lawyer of the woman that he beat, the closest person in her life besides her daughter and grandkids....lol....yeah sure...
Yes, it is, unless AOC has a twin.
https://youtu.be/D4-kd1o8ptU
bass4funk
But it’s going to wrap up soon. Don’t worry. And fear not, weasel shifty Spliff and Nadler will find other extra curricular activities for the Dems work with in trying to snare Trump.
I’m doing that, please keep up. What I’m wondering is, now that Cohen lied once again will he be given extra prison time? Oh, one could only hope.
Not that much and by the way, it’s not in the 30’s so that’s a thallium great news.
You are right, I don’t trust the majority of the liberal polls since they all got it wrong last time, even with the Senate....
WilliB
Toast Heretic:
I did not see this speech. I was just responding in general to these polemical "fact checks" by the fake media of which I have seen too many:
Try original sources. Like watching the source video instead of CNNs selected snipped. (Famous recent example: The Covington highschool thing). And try to make a distinction between what is meant and ridiculous nitpicking about words. (Random example: No, Obama did not write a formal founding certificate, but his policies did create ISIS, so yes, he is the founder). I could go on for ages, but all these so-called "fact checks" (often with the help of a party political hacks like the couple of activists who run "Snopes") fall into these main categories of misrepresentation and sophistry.
Chip Star
Whatever this means, it does nothing to explain how Trumpophiles can say with a straight face that Cohen can't be trusted about anything unless it's something that supports Trump.
Cohen was free to hire any lawyer he so chose. Instead of accepting it at face value, you feel the urge to push another conspiracy theory. ROFLMA!
AOC isn't going to take away planes and meat. Only utterly ignorant people that haven't bothered to do their own research believe that nonsense.
To what does the 70% tax apply? You probably don't even know this.
bass4funk
It really means, Dems better think of something and fast, when the witch hunt is over what next? Financial crimes? Will it work? Stormy? Didn’t work, allegations of a love child, crushed..hmmm....what else can we get on him....
Of course he can do that and we all know why. Lanny’s pretense means one thing, use Cohen to get to Trump and throw him away like a used toy.
No, she won’t because she’s a loose canon! California and their version of a Bullet train just went bankrupt? Gee, imagine that. Like I’m going to take a boat from California to Japan. Lol
We have and she and Bernie are the biggest gift to Trump and ever private business entrepreneurs. AOC won’t get my money. Trump was definitely right, keep the hammer and sickle out.
SuperLib
Just catching up here. Trump fans seem upset. Are you all saying he didn't lie through his teeth during his speech or something?
bass4funk
They all lie, the Democrats lie all day, the media lies all day, the FBI lies all day, so what do you suggest? I’m not happy with these people and they all lie on a daily basis, so now what?
You are now a clairvoyant?
SuperLib
Ah, so there's no debate that he lied, it's just that he's a politician and they all do it.
Drain the swamp!!!!
ClippetyClop
Follow your own logic. If they all lie, why do you support the one that has been proven to lie the most? Shouldn't you throw your unquestioning support behind the person that lies the least? And please let's not pretend that that person is Trump, that would be truly ROFL and you know it.
gcbel
Trump lies about so many things, and so often that he’s in a class of his own.
A Trump supporter’s only recourse is to object to the grade of the lie he’s being called on (306 vs 304) completely ignoring (or more likely deflecting) from the breathtaking scope of this mans mendacity, his penchant to lie about everything and anything big or small. Petty and pathetic? An apt description of the liar-in-chief.
gcbel
Just to set the record straight; As Trump has lied, he is a liar by definition.
gcbel
Actually it's one of the more telling fact checks. Good revealer of Trump's lack of character; what he's lying about. He's made the claim more than once before and been called on it. Isn't it petty and pathetic to repeat a lie because you just can't accept you lost 2 faithless voters?
He also claimed to have had “the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” Another lie. Called on it he then claimed "that he meant he achieved a bigger Electoral College victory than any Republican since Reagan". Another lie. And then, as is his habit he blamed someone else for giving him the information.
It's the petty lies that are revealing... and he makes so, so, so many of them.
Chip Star
And this also doesn't explain how Trumpophiles can say Cohen can't be trusted except when he supports their opinions.
Another conspiracy theory.
AOC isn't even proposing taking away planes or hamburgers. Only people too lazy to do cursory research continue to push this falsehood.
Your inaccurate posts demonstrate otherwise.
Here's your boy acting like a stable genius:
https://youtu.be/g5HHZI_pe3w