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Appeals court reinstates gag order that barred Trump from maligning court staff in fraud trial

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27 words comprising a single sentence to flush Orange Jesus’ BS claims down the toilet where it belongs.

He’s not being censored. He’s being prevented from intimidation and obstruction.

Wonder how long till the idiot in chief violates the order?

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Trump attorney Christopher Kise called it “a tragic day for the rule of law.”

Yes, because attacking judges and their clerks is the "rule of law "

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump's 2024 presidential campaign, complained that the order was “nothing but attempted election interference, which is failing terribly.”

Lol how is not being allowed to talk about the judge election interference? Is Trump running on the idea that fraud she be legal?

The captain reported that Greenfield received enough harassing voicemails to fill a transcript with 275 single-spaced pages, and that about half the harassing and disparaging messages to her were antisemitic.

I'm shocked. Antisemitic Trump supporters? This is exactly why the gag order is necessary.

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Wonder how long till the idiot in chief violates the order?

He and his supporters are already attacking the judges wife.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-attacks-judges-wife-responds-gag-order-reinstatement-1234906438/amp/

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I fully agree with Liz Cheney . . . We must not let this man near the White House ever again.

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When the gag was temporarily lifted 45’s supporters did a little victory dance and stated ‘I knew this would happen’ praising the judge who did it.

I guess today crystal balls will be back to the default whinge settings.

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Another Trump drama.

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Badmouthing people is the staple of Trump’s legal defense and election campaign. It’s the only thing he does. And whinge.

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Appeals court reinstates gag order that barred Trump from maligning court staff in fraud trial

Trump is a living, breathing argument against "free speech".

The garbled repetitions, non sequitur, cheap taunts and ad hominem, incitements to hate and xenophobia, dementia-ridden obsessive rants.

Almost no one else is less deserving of having such a megaphone.

Make America Have Better Orators.

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Badmouthing people is the staple of Trump’s legal defense and election campaign.

But badmouthing Trump is ok? ROFL

It’s the only thing he does. And whinge.

Says the people with an over 8 year obsessive hunger to try and nail this guy at every single turn. Too funny.

Anyway, it’s Weird that this is case is beyond wrong. Deutsche Bank wealth management group managing director testified on Tuesday and confirmed that this is just a political prosecution of Trump. Anyone in the real estate or banking industries knows that valuation is subjective and dynamic and borrowers do not get to set their own valuations. Due diligence is done by professionals. Plus, he also confirmed Trump’s loans were all paid back on time and with generous interests. He said no fraud was committed.

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Trump is a living, breathing argument against "free speech". 

Actually for free speech, thank God he’s not stopping and will continue to fight this injustice.

The garbled repetitions, non sequitur, cheap taunts and ad hominem, incitements to hate and xenophobia, dementia-ridden obsessive rants. 

But he has to let these people define him for pure political purpose, yeah, I don’t think so.

And the farce continues. At some point SCOTUS will need to get involved to restore some semblance of judicial impartiality because that's obviously beyond the collective wit of the NY judiciary. 

Almost no one else is less deserving of having such a megaphone.

Because the left hates the guy, but wouldn’t stand for gagging if it were anyone else, we know, we know…

Make America Have Better Orators.

They don’t want an orator, they just don’t want the establishment and on that you can’t make better irredeemable.

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Well that did not take long.

Good!

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But badmouthing Trump is ok? ROFL

Who is badmouthing Trump? Do you it's okay for Trump and his supporters to threaten the judge and clerk?

Anyway, it’s Weird that this is case is beyond wrong

There's nothing wrong about it. You don't get to inflate asset values when you want a loan, and then deflate them when it's tax time. That's fraud.

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There's nothing wrong about it. You don't get to inflate asset values when you want a loan, and then deflate them when it's tax time. That's fraud.

It really just comes down to this, a fraud used by the rich which most get away with, but for which the working poor would have their meager assets confiscated or jailed.

That has always been the two-tiered justice system; the rich are allowed to distort the system, hire wealth managers to hide assets, make bad business decisions and be bailed out by the state treasury, and not pay taxes.

Trump with his megaphone is allowed to paint this as a "witch hunt", T.D.S., deep state machinations etc.

Working people have tried this approach with the courts when faced with charges of financial fraud and all it got them was swift incarceration.

Trump benefits from being a silver spoon useful tool of the elite.

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Cards fan

Today 08:12 am JST

"But badmouthing Trump is ok? ROFL"

Anyone who can't take a bit of that without whining shouldn't be in politics.

Who is badmouthing Trump? Do you it's okay for Trump and his supporters to threaten the judge and clerk?

I suspect this person knows it's not okay and can't excuse it or defend it, so - deflect and criticise the critics. I'd rather just find someone else to support personally.

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Badmouthing people is the staple of Trump’s legal defense and election campaign.

But badmouthing Trump is ok? ROFL

Yes because the people doing it are not subjects in a trial and Trump isn’t a court official.

But Trump is subject to pre-trial release restrictions in 4 separate criminal trials, plus the restrictions against commenting on court appointed officials.

So your false equivalency is just that. False.

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Let's see if the "drama king" wins the day.

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Who is badmouthing Trump?

The woman, what’s her name and the judge that for some strange reason likes selfies…weird

Do you it's okay for Trump and his supporters to threaten the judge and clerk?

Do you think it’s okay to stop someone’s first amendment or is it acceptable to use the first amendment to attack a former president in the worst way?

There's nothing wrong about it.

If that were true the appeals court wouldn’t be involved, now going to the SC

You don't get to inflate asset values when you want a loan, and then deflate them when it's tax time. That's fraud.

There was no victim here – the banks were represented by the best, biggest, most prestigious law firms in the state of New York – actually in the country, some of the biggest law firms," Trump said when the trial began. "The banks got back their money, there was never a default, it was never a problem, everything was perfect. There was no crime." Yeah, more Dem desperation.

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The woman, what’s her name and the judge that for some strange reason likes selfies…weird

What woman? And what specifically did the judge say?

Do you think it’s okay to stop someone’s first amendment or is it acceptable to use the first amendment to attack a former president in the worst way?

You don't have the constitutional right to threaten and harass people. Nor do you have the right to induce people to do so.

If that were true the appeals court wouldn’t be involved, now going to the SC

lol No it's not.

There was no victim here 

The state was certainly a victim. As were the banks.

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bass4funk

Today 08:04 am JST

...this guy..

The man. The dude. The guv'nor. So awestruck and reverential. Just feel the love.

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The drama queen has already been found liable in his case.

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If that were true the appeals court wouldn’t be involved, now going to the SC

Appeal lost. When is it going to the S.C.?

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There was no victim here

By giving knowing false documents, Trump Defrauded investors of greater interest and higher fees they could have received for the true nature of the risk they were taking.

In addition he defrauded the taxpayers of the State of tax revenues that Trump evaded.

So the argument that “Hey everyone got paid. What’s the problem?” Is another bad faith argument (The only kind his cult engages in).

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If that were true the appeals court wouldn’t be involved, now going to the SC

No, it’s likely not. This is a state court ruling. The SCOTUS will only get involved in state court rulings when the state law disagrees with federal law or the law is not clear.

In addition, a minimum of 4 justices must agree to take the case.

As there is no such conflict and SCOTUS would really like to steer clear of this feces show, they are likely to show Donald the back of their collective hand.

You really do not know a damn thing about American law.

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What woman?

The smiling DA

And what specifically did the judge say? 

convicted the man before the trial even began, huh?

You don't have the constitutional right to threaten and harass people.

The judge doesn’t have the constitutional right to gag me from talking about myself and on to the Supreme Court we Go.

lol No it's not.

Yes, it is

The state was certainly a victim.

No bank was the victim, so if this so called judge was serious he would take into consideration all the banks testimony on that, but he won’t and we know why.

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they just don’t want the establishment and on that you can’t make better irredeemable.

Can someone translate this?

use the first amendment to attack a former president in the worst way?

You mean like indicting someone for breaking the law? This is an abuse of the first amendment?

more Dem desperation.

You sound desperate.

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This civil case is not one the SC would ever take on.

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The smiling DA

Oh no! A woman smiled, awful!

convicted the man before the trial even began, huh?

It's a civil trial, so he wasn't convicted. Also, it's called a summary judgement. A judgement rendered because it was so blatantly obvious Trump commited fraud. Yet you hilariously insist no fraud happened. lol :)

Yes, it is

Prove it.

No bank was the victim, so if this so called judge was serious he would take into consideration all the banks testimony on that, but he won’t and we know why.

Yes, the bank didn't get as much in interest as they should have. The state also didn't collect as much in taxes as it should have.

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The smiling DA

Smiling is a constitutionally protected right. Why are you so anti freedom?

As has been explained several times in several threads, the chance of the S.C. having anything to do with this case are very slight indeed.

But you need something to cling to, we know, we know.

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By giving knowing false documents, Trump Defrauded investors of greater interest and higher fees they could have received for the true nature of the risk they were taking. 

What gets me is that, none of these people know or understand how real estate works and the man that was born into the business is not allowed to opine, we have arrived to the banana republic status.

In addition he defrauded the taxpayers of the State of tax revenues that Trump evaded. 

Deutsche Bank execs testified and bsically blew this case apart. They stated that they had their own independent assessors provide numbers for the Trump properties......and that they were satisfied with the results.......

Not sure what these people want from Trump…oh, wait…

So the argument that “Hey everyone got paid. What’s the problem?” Is another bad faith argument (The only kind his cult engages in).

So in other words let’s omit what the banks say, it doesn’t help our cause.

So shopping for a different court by the New York corrupt prosecutor resulted in finding a court that does not support an individual's rights granted under the 1st Amendment. No surprise given the corruption of New York's corrupt judicial system.

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The man. The dude. The guv'nor. So awestruck and reverential. Just feel the love.

Uh, ok…lol

Oh no! A woman smiled, awful!

No, just politically and suspiciously weird

It's a civil trial, so he wasn't convicted.

This uh…Judge already stated he’s guilty.

Prove it.

Not my job.

Yes, the bank didn't get as much in interest as they should have. The state also didn't collect as much in taxes as it should have.

Wrong.

So now it is all bleeding down into the judiciary officially. The moment Trump appears to have had a 'victory' with Deutsche Bank testimony, the judiciary shuts him up. Just like when something negative happens to Joe Biden, they file new charges against Trump. Supreme Court here we come.

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What gets me is that, none of these people know or understand how real estate works

It’s a shame they didn’t hire you as a lawyer since you believe you know more about this than anyone involved.

and the man that was born into the business is not allowed to opine, we have arrived to the banana republic status.

’opine’ is fine, attack is whack. Maybe that little ditty will help you remember.

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Deutsche Bank execs testified and bsically blew this case apart. They stated that they had their own independent assessors provide numbers for the Trump properties......and that they were satisfied with the results.......

It is called being complicit and having a client too big to fail.

Similar to how AIG in the 2008 banking crisis gave hazardous financial assets Grade A ratings ; assisting their big Wall Street banking clients.

Secure in the knowledge that their fraud and bad business decisions would get bailed out by the public treasury and the bankers would suffer no sanctions.

Trump has consistently benefited from this type of complicity , and should be harshly punished for it, but being the corporatocracy America is I doubt the sanctions will hurt that much, unlike an ordinary citizen.

MAGA.

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the New York corrupt prosecutor 

Corrupt? How? Explain.

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This uh…Judge already stated he’s guilty.

No, no he hasn’t. It’s clear you really just started off on the wrong foot with this case and have hobbled in the wrong direction since day one.

It is a civil case, nobody is found ‘guilty’

In legal terms guilty and liable are very different.

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More election interference for the obvious appeal.process.

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No, just politically and suspiciously weird

Yes. It's weird when people smile.

This uh…Judge already stated he’s guilty.

No. The judge found he committed civil fraud. This isn't a criminal trial. He hasn't been ruled guilty.

If this is what you mean by "badmouthing" Trump, it's just pathetic.

Not my job.

Because you can't. Because it'not going to the Supreme Court. Get real.

Wrong.

Not wrong. When you deflate the value of your assets, you pay less in taxes. When you inflate asset prices, you get better interest rates.

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Smiling is a constitutionally protected right.

See, now you get it

Why are you so anti freedom?

That’s what I want to say to you, so we agree, the first amendment to opine about your own self is constitutionally protected.

As has been explained several times in several threads, the chance of the S.C. having anything to do with this case are very slight indeed. 

But not impossible.

But you need something to cling to, we know, we know

No, no clinging needed, boomerangs always seem to hit liberals in the end, historically, always.

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More word salads and whataboutery from the usual trump cultists.

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More election interference for the obvious appeal.process.

When the gag was halted during appeal:

“As we said months ago, free speech. Unconstitutional gag order.”

What’s ‘obvious’ about the appeal process? What’s the conspiracy this time?

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But badmouthing Trump is ok?

sounds like you’re all in on Trumps newest call to shut down MSNBC?

but Fox, Newsmax and 1America are all just hunky-dory swell?

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Yes. It's weird when people smile.

I thought this trial is supposed to be serious? Yes, No?.

No.

Yes, he stated as much before this trial even started.

If this is what you mean by "badmouthing" Trump, it's just pathetic.

This entire trial is pathetic as well as politically desperate.

Because you can't.

Because I don’t need to.

Because it'not going to the Supreme Court. Get real.

Because a commentator Reader says so? Yeah, sure. lol

Not wrong.

Yes, wrong

The lender testified they almost always lower the valuations and that the loan was paid back on time. So satisfied with dealing with Trump Inc. they did additional future loans for them. So, what is Lakisha problem, the bank had no problems!

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That’s what I want to say to you, so we agree, the first amendment to opine about your own self is constitutionally protected.

Opining about yourself is not the same as attacking the judge and court staff.

Please say you understand this.

No, no clinging needed, boomerangs always seem to hit liberals in the end, historically, always.

But pendulums something something.

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Bass, what would you say if Biden called for the Government to “come down hard” on 1America?

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Opining about yourself is not the same as attacking the judge and court staff. 

But the other way around is ok? Yeah, no, no way, I hope he violates that order and keep writing them checks

Please say you understand this.

I do, if you don’t, it validates my point that the Dems are as usually flying blind

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Says the people with an over 8 year obsessive hunger to try and nail this guy at every single turn. Too funny.

Too funny is your insistence that this guy isn’t a will-be Autocrat, Captain Freedom.

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Oh, and I can answer for you what you would say if Biden started threatening to shut down right wing media outlets.

you’d call it tyranny.

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bass4funkToday 09:33 am JST

Opining about yourself is not the same as attacking the judge and court staff. 

But the other way around is ok? Yeah, no, no way, I hope he violates that order and keep writing them checks

He's not going to be looking so smart from inside a jail cell. Even a civil judge can make that happen for him.

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I do, if you don’t, it validates my point that the Dems are as usually flying blind

This makes absolutely no sense at all and validates only that you have trouble expressing anything vaguely coherent. I’m not connected to ‘the Dems’ in any way.

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Trump still has four criminal cases. The odds of winning all four would be very high.

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Great publicity for Trump's campaign.

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A court security captain wrote in a sworn statement last week that Greenfield has been receiving 20-30 calls per day to her personal cell phone and 30-50 messages per day on social media, LinkedIn and to two personal email addresses.

The captain reported that Greenfield received enough harassing voicemails to fill a transcript with 275 single-spaced pages, and that about half the harassing and disparaging messages to her were antisemitic.

And there it is - the "word" - "anti-Semitic"...

That word encapsulates MAGA-world in all its hate, division, and overt racism...

There is no way to get round the truth that MAGA-world is infested with Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, faux religious zealots, and every other kind of miscreant...

The MAGA-boosters here can deflect and deny all they want - the proof is staring them right in the face - or perhaps at the invitation to dinner list a Mar-A-Lago...

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So if Trump gets a gag order from anonymous messages, wouldn’t liberals send those so he can’t say the things they wanted to keep secret?

uhuh yep they would.

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Media: He is attacking the judges wife by telling us about her biased social media posts!

Same media another day: it’s not her account! You cant prove it! And if it was it’s deleted now!

so…if it’s not her account, how is he attacking her?

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so…if it’s not her account, how is he attacking her?

things must be going pretty poorly if this is the best you can come with.

your man is calling witness/court intimidation “free political speech.” The appeals court disagrees. It’s as simple as that.

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so…if it’s not her account, how is he attacking her?

Great and brilliant point. Well, technically he's not attacking the judge's wife, he's just mistakenly attacking some other random 3rd party. That's much better.

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Media: He is attacking the judges wife by telling us about her biased social media posts!

Your media - though it's more accurate to describe it as far-right fantasy-land...where on air it pushes Trump's election fraud claims while calling them "mind-blowingly nuts" in private...

Same media another day: it’s not her account! You cant prove it! And if it was it’s deleted now!

It isn't her account - it was a fake one set up by the same MAGA-miscreants that send her death threats...or maybe Roger Stone...

The GOP’s presidential front-runner had himself a bit of an unhinged social media binge over the last couple of days, using Truth Social to air his scattered grievances, attack the wife of the judge overseeing his New York bank fraud trial, and take a wild left turn by claiming sudden allyship with the broader Black Lives Matter movement.

The nonsensical rants of a clearly desperate criminal...and we know why he is so rattled...

We learn yesterday that one of his lawyers in the classified steal and stash case has testified to Jack Smith that she told Trump violating the subpoena by failing to turn in all the classified was ILLEGAL. Which he them did as he told his aide to go hide the documents, and the FBI found these 104 more later.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/attorney-warned-trump-crime-comply-subpoena-classified-docs/story?id=105228569

Then there are all his coup inner-circle who all have accepted plea deals to testify against him in the sedition case.

This NY civil case is peanuts - he'll be fined and barred from doing business in NY - the three other criminal cases have him dead to rights - even hard-core conservatives admit this.

Prepare yourselves MAGA-brethren - it's "Bye Don, Hello Leavenworth". Ignore the facts and deny it all you want - won't change a thing and will just male your pain worse...

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So then he’s not attacking the wife and the premise is false.

you also know the clerk can pause LinkedIn and social media to restrict messages and can change her phone number, right?

you do know these messages are fake and from liberals to use to get a biased gag order, don’t you? Cant prove they aren’t.

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Too funny is your insistence that this guy isn’t a will-be Autocrat, Captain Freedom.

Democrats

Trump still has four criminal cases. The odds of winning all four would be very high.

He should blow all of these all out of the water.

This makes absolutely no sense at all and validates only that you have trouble expressing anything vaguely coherent.

Now you know how conservatives feel talking to liberals, exactly!

I’m not connected to ‘the Dems’ in any way.

Nor to conservatives.

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Where’d you go, Bass?

what would you say if Biden told the government that he supposedly personally owns to come down hard on media outlets that badmouth him?

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So then he’s not attacking the wife and the premise is false.

So he's attacking someone else. Does that not bother you?

Does it not bother you that he totally would attack the judge's wife if he knew her social media account?

you also know the clerk can pause LinkedIn and social media to restrict messages and can change her phone number, right?

Or Trump could just shut up. Right?

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your man is calling witness/court intimidation “free political speech.” The appeals court disagrees. It’s as simple as that.

And another appeals court with disagree with this one. Then another will disagree with that one.

seems liberals are just upset all their secrets getting out about the judge and his staff and his family and their cozy relationships with the prosecution and Democrat leaders. They didn’t want the people knowing those,

meanwhile in the trial, the back executives have had nothing but wonderful things about Trump the customer and Trump the businessman.

so this article is needed to deflect from the factual testimony.

He’s attacking the wife of the judge! But it’s not her account!

Cant have it both ways. Well, maybe you can in a partisan witch hunt.

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you do know these messages are fake and from liberals to use to get a biased gag order, don’t you? Cant prove they aren’t.

lol I don't have to. When you make a silly claim, the onus is on you to prove it. Not me to disprove it. :)

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I’m not connected to ‘the Dems’ in any way.

Nor to conservatives.

But I am connected to reality.

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When you make a silly claim, the onus is on you to prove it.

yep so you can prove who is sending these messages to the clerk and that they are connected to Trump?

then can also explain why she doesn’t just turn social media and LinkedIn off to not get any messages?

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you do know these messages are fake and from liberals to use to get a biased gag order, don’t you? C

so the threats are all bogus coming in from Libs?

it’s hard to take you seriously…

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so the threats are all bogus coming in from Libs?

so you wouldn’t do that, knowing it gets Trump a gag order to stop sharing all your secrets to the people?

why hasn’t she simply turned off her messaging? Does she really need LinkedIn is social media accounts/DM wide open right now?

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The support for the gag order is that Trump is causing his supporters to “attack” these people. On accounts that aren’t theirs.

no actual proof of any of that. Zero.

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Where’d you go, Bass?

Nowhere.

what would you say if Biden told the government that he supposedly personally owns to come down hard on media outlets that badmouth him?

He can do what he wants.

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Give me 10 mins with her social media accounts and phones and she will be seeing zero personal threats. A couple of quick settings and it’s done.

how do “trump supporters” have her personal phone number and why hasn’t she changed it?

they just don’t want the public hearing about her campaigning for the prosecution and the judges in laws involved in a “loan” to the prosecutor. Also Don’t want inconvenient cozy pics and videos seen either.

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But I am connected to reality.

For the left, that is serious news. Really!

lol I don't have to. When you make a silly claim, the onus is on you to prove it.

No, the onus is not one me to prove it when it’s already in your face, now whether you want to accept that reality is up to you, you don’t get to determine what is fake or fiction over what anyone thinks or believes in. ;)

He's not going to be looking so smart from inside a jail cell. Even a civil judge can make that happen for him.

No, that won’t happen, not in our lifetime.

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yep so you can prove who is sending these messages to the clerk and that they are connected to Trump? 

then can also explain why she doesn’t just turn social media and LinkedIn off to not get any messages?

The only way you can cope with anything is by blaming someone else and imagining a conspiracy. Every. Time.

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The support for the gag order is that Trump is causing his supporters to “attack” these people. On accounts that aren’t theirs. 

no actual proof of any of that. Zero.

Call and response.

Trump starts criticizing the clerk and like clockwork tens of antisemitic messages roll in per day.

A panel of 4 appeals court judges who unlike you, know the rules of evidence, thought that is pretty convincing proof.

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Bass, you just said that a US President, any US President, can use the government to quash critical media coverage.

so you apparently want to live in Autocracy? Fine, but knock off the BS freedom talk.

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Yeah and another court will overrule them just like this court overruled the other.

you can’t prove who is sending the messages and she can simply not log in and she won’t see then anyway:

not like liberals ever claimed an attack by “trump supporters” that was found ti be a racial hoax, right?

right?

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The Trump supporters keep yelping about how they are going to appeal!

I quote Dr. Phil: How’s that been working for you so far?

Trump keeps losing because he has no legal cause of action.

He will continue to lose because he has no legal basis for his claims.

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A panel of 4 appeals court judges who unlike you, know the rules of evidence, thought that is pretty convincing proof.

Yeah, we are talking about NYC like a duck swimming in a sea of sharks

you just said that a US President, any US President, can use the government to quash critical media coverage.

Biden has been doing that, trying to.

so you apparently want to live in Autocracy?

Trying to get out of it, most of the country, look at the polls.

Fine, but knock off the BS freedom talk.

Ahhh, you don’t get to tell me what say or what not to say.

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Yeah and another court will overrule them just like this court overruled the other.

This is a fantasy not based in factual reality. The initial limits were never overturned. They were paused while the appeal (such as it was) played out.

Without a sound legal basis, and there is none, Trump loses until the courts tell him to stuff it.

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how do “trump supporters” have her personal phone number and why hasn’t she changed it?

perhaps this is from days of old but uh, the White Pages?

you are firmly in the realm of if she’d dressed more modestly it wouldn’t have happened

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The federal appeals court will very soon give a very similar ruling in his criminal trial.

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Put yourself in this situation...

You take thousands of official government documents - over 400 are classified, some Top Secret. The government asks for them back and you refuse. The government then goes to court and gets a lawful subpoena that ALL documents be returned - and your lawyer tells out that violating the subpoena is ILLEGAL. You tell another lawyer to LIE and send an official certification letter to the FBI that "no classified documents remain at Mar-A-Lago". You then direct your aide to go hide over 100 of the documents and then destroy the tapes showing him committing this crime. The government hears from an insider that additional classified documents remain, searches, and finds 104 MORE.

You lose an election - and admit to your closest associates that you did in fact lose. But a lawyer brings to you a strategy to use FAKE electors to overthrow the election results - but also tells you that this strategy is ILLEGAL. You decide to pursue it anyway to include a plan to plant FAKE evidence of fraud in Georgia voting machines.

Think you'd go to jail if this was you?

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yep so you can prove who is sending these messages to the clerk and that they are connected to Trump?

You claimed the threats were from leftists. Prove it.

why hasn’t she simply turned off her messaging? Does she really need LinkedIn is social media accounts/DM wide open right now?

I'm sorry, why should she have it? IS it because Trump and his lowlife supporters are incapable of controlling themselves and acting like adults? Pathetic.

Yeah and another court will overrule them just like this court overruled the other.

No court ruled in favor of Trump is this case. The gag order was temporarily suspended pending THIS outcome.

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The Trump trail of wailing tears continues, lol.

“Hop in, losers! We’re going losing!”

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Great to hear about the reinstatement. I'm looking forward to the court allowing the public to watch the trials and witnessing the real truth. What do Trump's attorneys have to hide? If what they have said is the truth, then no use blocking the cameras.

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The Trump trail of wailing tears continues, lol. 

“Hop in, losers! We’re going losing!”

How??? Maybe if they try and do a hit on him, other than that, Biden seems toast….whole wheat.

The federal appeals court will very soon give a very similar ruling in his criminal trial

Desperate times, calls for desperate measures, never waste a political crisis

-Rahm Emanuel

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When the law and the facts are not on your side, divert to polls a year out.

THATS some pretty weak sauce

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and his lowlife supporters can't stop harassing people?

cant prove it.

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America is not going to elect a sex-offender who will be nearly bankrupt and who will have multiple felony convictions for attempting to overthrow the government because he objectively lost he re-election.

Nope. We’re not THAT stupid.

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cant prove it.

I don't need to. You claimed it was leftists that sent harassing messages to frame Trump. So you prove it.

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and his lowlife supporters can't stop harassing people?

cant prove it.

The Court of Appeals disagrees. As they all went to law school and have decades of experience, and you have zippo, I’ll go with them.

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 So you prove it.

Nope. Your gag order is not supported by facts if you can’t prove it’s Trump supporters.

I’m not asking for a gag order so don’t need to prove anything.

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What's that got to do with the fact that Trump and his lowlife supporters can't stop harassing people?

A lot. Harassing people? Yeah, the left have no room to talk in that department.

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IS it because Trump and his lowlife supporters are incapable of controlling themselves and acting like adults? 

no it’s not.

Can you prove it is?

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Nope. Your gag order is not supported by facts if you can’t prove it’s Trump supporters.

I don't have to prove it. The courts agree that lowlife trump supporters are harassing the judge and and clerk.

At 10:36 you claimed that:

you do know these messages are fake and from liberals to use to get a biased gag order, don’t you? Cant prove they aren’t.

So prove it already. But you know you can't, it's complete and utter nonsense.

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MEGA bots are busy this morning. At least it's Friday.

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Gonna be hilarious!

Quite the imagination you have. To bad that's all it'll ever be.

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So liberals want you to prove something, but they don’t want it back what they say up,

No the courts reinstated the gag order citing 275 pages of unhinged death threats and antisemitic harassment. That is a fact.

Posters here are now claiming without a shred of proof that it's actually leftists doing it to frame Trump. So prove that claim already.

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Not a worry. He can just steal it from his basement again without leaving a shred of evidence. 

Not this time.

You didn't catch him last time, what makes you think you will next time? Do you have a new Kraken to release?

No, just show us a poll, any poll where is close to beating Trump. No, the SNL poll doesn’t count.

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What are your plans if this doesn't happen the way you think it will?

They'll go and have another insurrection. They'll try and democracy.

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if they steal it again, yes.

What if they don't? And how will you know if they do?

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Or just gonna go with the Steal again?

if they steal it again, yes.

Your guy list. He lost the popular vote. He lost the electoral count. He lost the recounts. He lost the challenges. He lost the appeals. Then he lost the coup.

Nothing was stolen.

He lost.

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No, just show us a poll, any poll where is close to beating Trump

Sure thing. Yougov poll 11/26.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

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Cards fan

Today 12:02 pm JST

"Gonna be hilarious!"

Quite the imagination you have. To bad that's all it'll ever be.

I wouldn't take anything for granted when it comes to Donald Trump. All the same though, thinking it's "hilarious" when people support a losing candidate is just a bit tacky.

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Oh CNN just clarified it:

“The appeals court paused the gag order earlier this month, but on Thursday said it should be restored while the official appeal is pending.

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Trump carries a huge belly of resentment.

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So all the “secret” stuff getting out is getting a little hot for the libs, so they got a pause until the official appeal is resolved.

which likely will be slow walked until the case is done.

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So all the “secret” stuff getting out is getting a little hot for the libs, so they got a pause until the official appeal is resolved.

Lol

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Oh CNN just clarified it:

Last week: "CNN is a leftist swamp"

Today: "CNN just clarified"...

Tomorrow: "CNN can never be trusted!"...

The day after that: "CNN confirmed"...

MAGA record for hypocrisy and flip-flopping...

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So all the “secret” stuff getting out is getting a little hot for the libs, so they got a pause until the official appeal is resolved.

lol what secret stuff? Whining about a female court clerk smiling?

You got nothing and nothing is coming except more whining, excuses and “grrrr just you wait”

Absolutely pathetic on every level.

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