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Like the former East Germany.

Report your neighbor if they're listening to Radio Free Europe.

-4 ( +20 / -24 )

Adern is making a huge mistake!

There is no possibility of currently eliminating viruses.

Learning to prevent infection is much better than anything else.

If all the infected were given a free hotel stay in a four star hotel for two weeks then that would control the virus more efficiently than threats.

-3 ( +12 / -15 )

What is the endgame? Import foreign vaccines and vaccinate everyone?

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Report your neighbor if they're listening to Radio Free Europe.

That’s obviously not what she’s saying. To ‘call out’ someone means to verbally challenge that person about their behavior.

9 ( +16 / -7 )

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Monday urged New Zealanders to "call out" COVID-19 rule-breakers

My God, what is she doing?

@Reckless

Yes, what is the endgame?

Maybe she is aiming at a total control of the citizens!

Bye, Bye freedom!

@kurisupisu

Adern is making a huge mistake!

There is no possibility of currently eliminating viruses.

Learning to prevent infection is much better than anything else

I 100% agree!

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

"If that means calling a family member or colleague out for not following the rules then we should do that. Do it with kindness, but do it," she said."

Yes, sounds very much like East Germany.

-10 ( +8 / -18 )

I can't criticize her because she was reelected recently to do this and control the virus. I am just curious what her future plans are since this virus is not going away.

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

Cue physical violence between ordinary citizens. And for what? NZ has so far been relatively untouched by the virus but the consequences have been dreadful.

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

She is over the top control freak, her jack boot nazi style only keeps getting worse.

Very much East German Style govt is where she is taking NZ

-11 ( +7 / -18 )

I am still in Auckland and happy that the government here really cares about the people and its great to see that the people here can really trust them. My colleagues are all saying just how lucky we are to have freedom. A week to make sure its back to zero for now is not a difficult ask and its only Auckland this is at a limited lockdown on level 3. I can still go to the supermarket, go to the beach to have my coffee in the morning, I can even still go to my office if I wish, the lockdown is to control large groups. Can all you haters of Adern really trust your government to do the right thing for its citizens and anyway how is it going for you, are you really free knowing that you may well be passing someone on the street right now that has it? We have lived the last year without face masks in public except for public transport.

9 ( +17 / -8 )

To ‘call out’ someone means to verbally challenge that person about their behavior.

You mean like peek over the fence and call out your neighbor if they're enjoying a barbecue on the patio without masks.

Sick society.

-15 ( +6 / -21 )

You mean like peek over the fence and call out your neighbor if they're enjoying a barbecue on the patio without masks.

Has that happened?

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Jacinda Ardern can enrage the far right simply by getting out of bed in the morning. An intelligent, compassionate, articulate and strong leader who has the overwhelming support of her country and one of the most successful responses to corona virus in the world.

Sick society.

Just the opposite.

13 ( +20 / -7 )

She is over the top control freak, her jack boot nazi style only keeps getting worse.

Very much East German Style govt is where she is taking NZ

and yet, it's the National and ACT parties that are calling for harsher punishment of rule breakers.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

"NZ has so far been relatively untouched by the virus but the consequences have been dreadful"

Really? Like living a normal life? Attending concerts, free to go to bars, restaurants and cinemas? Able to take the kids to the park, the beach, mingle with anyone without restrictions (outside of this short lockdown)? 60,000 people attending rugby matches?

And you think THIS is a dreadful consequence? Struggling to grasp your logic my friend.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Jacinda Ardern can enrage the far right simply by getting out of bed in the morning. An intelligent, compassionate, articulate and strong leader who has the overwhelming support of her country and one of the most successful responses to corona virus in the world.

She is one of Tony Blair's protégés. Flying one's flag from that mast is not something I would be prepared to boast about...

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

This woman is crazy. She is an authoritarian hidden behind ideology. She came to a state where she is believing that she can impose a lockdown of millions of people juste like she presses a switch on and switch off button. There is no science behind this. This is politics, dirty and nasty politics.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

She is one of Tony Blair's protégés. Flying one's flag from that mast is not something I would be prepared to boast about...

Has she stated this? If so, you can take the positives from a politician. Blair was a a strategically brilliant politician who led the Labour Party to three election victories over the Tories ( two of the victories were absolute hidings ).

He was also slimy and because of his involvement in the Iraq War, caused me not to vote Labour in a General Election for the only time in my life in 2005.

Ardern could create the election-winning machine Blair helped create without getting involved in the kind of filth he did. If she does that, the opposition could be screwed for a very long time.

This woman is crazy

The people of NZ disagreed at the last election. New Zealanders are not stupid or crazy people in my experience.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

Weird how a lot of people who were calling for a wall to be built between the USA and Mexico on this website are now suddenly against "East Berlin-style" solutions.

Not that telling someone to put a mask on is the same as reporting someone to the Stasi, of course.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

businessminded100 I can still go to the supermarket, go to the beach to have my coffee in the morning, I can even still go to my office if I wish

We can do that in Japan too, In Tokyo even.

I guess none of those applauding jackboot adern were stuck in the 6 hour traffic jam trying to get back into auckland on sunday with young kids , with 90 year old parents stuck in a hot car, with pets , with out any toilets, food , drinks or help.

While police road blocked the highway checking every car and checking peoples reason for wanting to get back home ! Police State or Nazi govt which ?

daito_hakToday 10:18 am JST

This woman is crazy. She is an authoritarian hidden behind ideology. She came to a state where she is believing that she can impose a lockdown of millions of people juste like she presses a switch on and switch off button. There is no science behind this. This is politics, dirty and nasty politics.

If that is not over the top what is ?

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Ardern asking people to dob in wrongdoers makes NZ like East Germany? What utter rot.

Communist East Germany, for those who obviously aren't familiar with how or why it operated, asked people to dob in their neighbours for political reasons, i.e. for the security of their own political skins, and built up a network of information which was used to imprison dissenters, sack them from their jobs, etc.

Centrist social democrat Jacinda Ardern, on the other hand, is suggesting that people provide information on people who by breaking laws designed to protect the public health of every citizen of New Zealand, are potentially HARMING the health of every citizen of New Zealand. Offenders will cop a fine at most.

And you really can't see the difference? Time to get a political education, people.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

Ardern is a authoritarian control freak with a rainbow flag and lollipops for the weak-minded. Fortunately, it's only NZ we're talking about here, so the rest of the world can ignore them. If she was in charge of an important country, then I'd be worried.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

so liberal...

in GDR it was Stasi,they did same thing to own citizens...

i will not comment more further as wish to stay polite...feel not good from all of this!!!

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Jacinda Ardern, a Tony Blair's protégé?

It would be wise for Jacinda Ardern to take a deep breath and a step back.

Frustrating as it may be…….

"If that means calling a family member or colleague out for not following the rules then we should do that. Do it with kindness, but do it,"

 "Everyone is angry... I totally get that," she said. "At the same time, how do we make sure people tell us the truth because there is nothing more valuable to us than knowing, in these scenarios, where contact has occurred?"

To provoke and intimidate could result in the complete opposite effect to what is intended

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Fortunately, it's only NZ we're talking about here, so the rest of the world can ignore them.

Oh the irony.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

The right do get themselves in a terrible fluster at times. They trot out expressions like ‘Stasi’ like pull toys. I expected more Orwell references. A bit disappointed about that.

A bit too emotional, predictable and and one-dimensional. Maybe that’s part of the reason they took an absolute hiding in the last NZ election.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Jacinda Ardern, a Tony Blair's protégé?

How do you figure, when she never met Blair while working in the British government?

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Readers, Tony Blair is not relevant to this discussion.

That is why it is much easier to eliminate the virus in a country with small population like NZ. If I start calling out the folks not following rules in my country I would not even cover my neighborhood by the end of the month, and that is if some idiot does not take offense and come to blows with me.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Rebuke: express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behaviour or actions.

She's not asking New Zealanders to 'report' or 'dob in' rule breakers. It's right there in the headline.

Also, Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield said today that it was widely accepted that taking a prosecutorial approach to the latest breaches would hinder people coming forward. He told Morning Report he wasn't convinced this be a productive move.

"I was just need to be convinced that it was actually going to be a useful thing to do rather than a counter-productive thing to do and we've seen other commentators making the same point."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437450/ashley-bloomfield-says-he-won-t-refer-self-isolation-breaches-to-police

6 ( +8 / -2 )

They're chalk and cheese, Lazarus Knows

I think the comparison was meant metaphorically, politically, all probably off topic though.

Jacinda Ardern, has steered NZ well though this pandemic.

It is understandable Jacinda Ardern would lash out at the covid-19 miscreants.

Sometimes the best intentions can backfire

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

I've known far too many Kiwis to rebuke any of them. This will not end well for the rat finks.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

She's not asking New Zealanders to 'report' or 'dob in' rule breakers. It's right there in the headline.

As we've learned over the last few years, the far-right consider any sort of criticism or disapproval to be the pinnacle of oppression and hatred.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

I love Ardern stories, and how angry they make our far-right posters. She's awesome, cause she trolls them all, by being compassionate, left-wing, highly competent, and above all, hugely popular. Her very existence serves as a contrast to point out how pathetic and useless the losers are.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

My previous post was based on a misreading of the article, in that I thought Ms Ardern was asking Kiwis to dob in (report) people not doing the right thing. Now I realize that all she's asking people to do is to actually personally "call them out", in her words. So there's even less reason for all the BS comparing New Zealand to East Germany than I thought there was.

Ardern-bashers and everyone else comparing New Zealand to a totalitarian state are just hysterical. Hysterical, as in "an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterized by irrationality" hysterical.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

A frustrated Ardern said the breaches that led to Auckland being shut down for the second time in a month were intolerable.

No, that’s her political decision and abusive power that led to the shut down. How can a Labour Party member abuse so much her power in that kind of circumstances. The virus has been here for 1 year already, and just for a few cases, a lockdown.
-3 ( +3 / -6 )

She's awesome, cause she trolls them all, by being compassionate, left-wing, highly competent, and above all, hugely popular. Her very existence serves as a contrast to point out how pathetic and useless the losers are.

Hello, Jacinda!

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

This is super common in NZ. One of our major drink driving ad campaigns is about not letting your mates drive drunk. Call them out and stop them.

If you see a mate struggling with depression, hit them up and be there for them.

Now she has asked, if you see someone you know doing something dangerous stop them.

Why is that such a radical idea for a lot of you? Shes not talking about going and screaming at someone at the supermarket you've never met. She's not saying call the cops because you don't like the look of someone. She's talking about approaching someone close to you to discuss an important matter.

Perhaps the emotional maturity needed is beyond the reach of many of you.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

I am just curious what her future plans are since this virus is not going away.

obvious isnt it, get herd immunity by immunising around %70 of the population, letting the virus spread naturally to reach herd immunity will mean around 100,000 newZealander will have to die as a result

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Can all you haters of Adern really trust your government to do the right thing for its citizens and anyway how is it going for you, are you really free knowing that you may well be passing someone on the street right now that has it? We have lived the last year without face masks in public except for public transport"

Spot on mate...you can be proud how well NZ govt. has handled the corona situation.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Be nice, spy on your neighbors, then give them a hug. Defeat corona with love.

A team of 5 million all spying on each other.

Sounds like a great place to live.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

And according to local news, the police are overwhelmed with people grassing on their neighbors

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

And according to local news, the police are overwhelmed with people grassing on their neighbors

That's a bit closer to the truth than your previous post, but still a misrepresentation of the facts.

"NZ Police are redirecting people to its website or the all of government Covid-19 website after its 105 non-emergency phone line was overwhelmed as people sought clarity over Covid rules - or to report possible breaches."

4 ( +5 / -1 )

The polar opposite of some in the U.S., who celebrate breaking these rules while the death toll climbs ever higher toward six hundred thousand dead. Don't infringe upon THEIR "freedom."

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

"If that means calling a family member or colleague out for not following the rules then we should do that. Do it with kindness, but do it," she said."

I completely agree with Ardern. She and NZ have set a world leading example of how to control the spread of covid and to keep the mortality rate to an absolute minimum. NZ is fully open for business and life is able to function normally there due only to her leadership and the peoples whole hearted support.

There will be idiots complaining, but they dont really understand anything and can safely be ignored as irrelevant.

Calling out or "pointing out / advising" someone they should follow the designated guidelines whether it is about covid behavior or hanging outside an open door on a fast moving train, it is for safety, obviously. You are asking them to modify what they are doing to be safe for themselves and others. If some find that harsh or wrong then they need to understand being a part of a society brings with it expectations that everyone at the minimum does the right thing in being safe for everyone else as well as yourself.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Like the former East Germany. Report your neighbor if they're listening to Radio Free Europe.

Exactly right, except of the station. We listened more to RTL from Luxemburg (AM) and NDR or BR (AM, FM when the weather was promising receiving) from West Germany , as those had the hidden news AND good music too...and when the door bell rang we hastily changed the station or switched off. A few unlucky were too late with that or the people before the door were already from the secret police and directly heard it. Then it was over with normal life and career in the very most cases.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

The lockdown in Auckland will be proven to be not necessary, and she is throwing these families under the bus for political reasons. Disgraceful!

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Strangerland

I love Ardern stories, and how angry they make our far-right posters. She's awesome, cause she trolls them all, by being compassionate, left-wing, highly competent, and above all, hugely popular. Her very existence serves as a contrast to point out how pathetic and useless the losers are.

Surely you jest! Ardern is far out of her depth. NZ is going in the wrong direction, and this current lockdown is completely unnecessary. NZ has a massive housing crisis, huge problems with child poverty, out of control gangs, and she and her government are doing nothing to tackle these issues.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Akula

Surely you jest! Ardern is far out of her depth. NZ is going in the wrong direction, and this current lockdown is completely unnecessary. NZ has a massive housing crisis, huge problems with child poverty, out of control gangs, and she and her government are doing nothing to tackle these issues.

Excellent post!

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Authorities have the ability to take enforcement action against rule-breakers, but have yet to issue a single fine for not wearing a mask on a plane or public transport.

Asked if enforcement needed to be more proactive, Ardern said it was an operational matter for the police.

"Politicians aren't the ones that determine enforcement, and that's rightly so," she said. "But the provisions exist."

Does the NZ Government have a coherent vaccine rollout strategy?

I don’t believe so.

COVID-19: Vaccine strategy and planning.

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-vaccine-strategy-and-planning

This is vague and indeterminate, little or no defined time frame.  

It lockdown without a clear a policy or approach to implement a vaccination program.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

I understand that only between 1500 and 2000 NZ citizens have been vaccinated?

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

I understand that only between 1500 and 2000 NZ citizens have been vaccinated?

And yet none of them are dying or even catching the virus! I think you've exposed the conspiracy! New Zealand proves coronavirus if fake, it's an attempt by a global cabal of nefarious governments set on overthrowing the people and controlling them through fake vaccines! NZ proves it!

3 ( +5 / -2 )

I swear that it is disheartening to see the number of people here crapping on Ardern when her methods have proven her right when it comes to allowing NZ to live about the mots normal life there is in abnormal times overall.

Who the hell are we to lecture New Zealand when their people just answered the question about what they think of her in the last elections?

3 ( +5 / -2 )

I have never paid much attention to the pandemic/vaccine conspiracy theories.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has without doubt displayed the resolve and leadership to keep outbreaks of Covid-19 under control.

I am convinced that the most effective method to contain this pandemic is through a comprehensive vaccination program. I believe this will be the only action that will be able to save the global economy.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

I am convinced that the most effective method to contain this pandemic is through a comprehensive vaccination program

Well Arden has proven that the most effective method of containing the virus was to eliminate it.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

it would be disingenuous not to thumb's up you.

It could be a blunt instrument though, the policy certainly eliminates risk of infection.

The economic effects could present an on going negative effect, delaying a vaccination program.

However, the costs prevaricate the urgency.

The pharmaceutical companies will make hay while the sun shines.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

The economic effects could present an on going negative effect, delaying a vaccination program.

You mean NZ that's already seeing their economy in a recovery? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-economy-surges-out-of-recession-amid-spending-spree

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Well agreed, in comparison to the UK....

COVID-19 economic response.....

https://www.treasury.govt.nz/information-and-services/nz-economy/covid-19-economic-response

The outlook has clouds on the horizon.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern did respond quickly. While others sat on their hands.

A vaccine program would be the icing on the cake.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

she sounds like a dew of our state premiers...Control freaks...

0 ( +0 / -0 )

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