As GOP schism grows, Trump attacks fellow Republicans

Keep giving him more and more rope ! Maybe he will get lucky and he'll hang himself !

If everyone is your enemy then the problem is you.

Tired of winning?

It is fun to read alt-right forums right now. Infighting there is entertaining.

Anyways, let's wait a bit until the situation stabilizes. DT has been in office since 3 months and 10 days.

Meanwhile, I'll grab another bucket of popcorn.

“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

--George Orwell

Trump’s anger at the Freedom Caucus

The Koch brothers have helped finance the Freedom Caucus. The Koch brothers have not been Trump supporters. The Koch brothers are major global players in natural resources extraction and trading. Putin and his oil-garchs (sic) are major competitors in resource extraction and trading. Trump is fighting the Koch brothers. Will Trump's globalists prevail? It's shaping up to be a right-on-right battle, groups favoring authoritarian totalitarianism fighting each other for control of the world's resources. Same as it ever was.

What a mess the GOP is.

One more step towards the Republican civil war.

Fun to watch, sure, but remember: When elephants fight, it's the grass that is hurt.

They're fighting over whether to throw tens of millions off of health insurance (GOP establishment), or more than that ("Freedom" Caucus).

That's literally what they can't agree on.

They're fighting over whether to throw tens of millions off of health insurance (GOP establishment), or more than that ("Freedom" Caucus).

That's literally what they can't agree on.

And Ryan is worried that the democrats may suddenly start to cooperate in order to pass the bill. I don't think he has to worry about that. If they actually changed the bill enough that the democrats would start supporting it, it's doubtful they could get enough Republicans go to along with it.

If everyone is your enemy then the problem is you.

No, it's about the comfortable status quo not liking to be uprooted one bit, that's the real problem.

One more step towards the Republican civil war.

As if the Democrats are in better shape, they don't even have a leader to guide them out of the wilderness of confusion.

Poor old Donald the playground bully can't get what he wants..what a disaster he and his freak show are.

Hmmm...if Democrats would stop throwing landmines and some ideological reasons and the GOP wouldn't be overly stubborn for ideological reasons, a lot more could be done. But both these useless parties could care less about the country, party first is the motto.

Si vis pacem, para bellum-Vegetius

party first is the motto.

A motto you repeat daily.

Hard to drain the swamp when you're in the swamp!

We're winning so much, I can't take it anymore. Please Mr. Trump, make it stop. SO MUCH WINNING!

As GOP schism grows, Trump attacks fellow Republicans

Rats in a cage.

As if the Democrats are in better shape, they don't even have a leader to guide them out of the wilderness of confusion.

The democrats don't need to be in better shape right now. They aren't running a country. As the Republicans are quickly finding out, being the opposition is the easy job.

The WSJ is reporting that Flynn is offering to testify against Trump for immunity. Should be fun.

They really don't, they just need to remain exactly where they are, a complete marginalized and roaming the Unicornverse

Nah, they just need to follow the lead the Republicans set for the past eight years - being obstructionist. Being the party of no is the easy job.

The WSJ is reporting that Flynn is offering to testify against Trump for immunity. Should be fun.

He could be testifying that there was collusion or bribery or private sensitive on his part in exchange of immunity. Testifying in this case doesn't mean it will go the route that ties Trump to anything. Be careful about those subliminal undertones.

He could be testifying that there was collusion or bribery or private sensitive on his part in exchange of immunity.

Why would they give him immunity on testifying against something if he was the only guilty party?

That literally makes no sense.

Nah, they just need to follow the lead the Republicans set for the past eight years

I see, but every time it's backfired on the Dems, maybe that's why they're coming around at least 2 to vote for the Gorsuch nomination.

being obstructionist. Being the party of no is the easy job.

Personally, I want the Dems to go further in the wilderness, since so many of them are residing in States where Trump won. Keep up the good work.

Why would they give him immunity on testifying against something if he was the only guilty party?

To save his skin, doesn't mean or have to tie Trump to anything.

poor, poor Donald - it just wasn't meant to be like this... he had plans to be such a great president.....

poor, poor Donald - it just wasn't meant to be like this... he had plans to be such a great president.....

Every wrinkled shirt needs a bit or ironing, 2 months, it'll get better once those tax reforms start rolling in.

The problem I see here is that Trump just can't help himself trolling others, even from his own party. We're seeing it a little bit here how these Repubs are attempting a bit of pushback themselves, but if he keep this up, I think we'll see a new sort of troll politics where any sort of discourse will descend into trolling, and eventually violence

I see, but every time it's backfired on the Dems

The democrats weren't the opposition for the past eight years, so it hasn't had a chance to backfire on them.

And if the election of Trump has shown anything, it's that being obstructionist is a valid path to victory.

Read that Flynn wants immunity to testify, wonder if he will end up "falling " out of a window?

The democrats weren't the opposition for the past eight years, so it hasn't had a chance to backfire on them.

Yeah, it did politically, which caused them dearly in every category.

And if the election of Trump has shown anything, it's that being obstructionist is a valid path to victory.

No, it's angering and using racist tactics to marginalize a segment of the population by reverse discrimination.

Yeah, it did politically, which caused them dearly in every category.

No, it's angering and using racist tactics to marginalize a segment of the population by reverse discrimination.

Off the topic. Look at the title of the article: "As GOP schism grows, Trump attacks fellow Republicans" --that's what you should be talking about.

No, it's angering and using racist tactics to marginalize a segment of the population by reverse discrimination.

It's surprising to hear you give such an open and honest appraisal of the Trump administration. I wouldn't have expected it from someone as alt-right as you.

Deflect and deceive. Dump Dumb Donald !

As if the Democrats are in better shape, they don't even have a leader to guide them out of the wilderness of confusion.

The Democrats are lost in the woods. The GOP is drowning in a swamp. I'd rather be lost.

Off the topic. Look at the title of the article: "As GOP schism grows, Trump attacks fellow Republicans" --that's what you should be talking about.

Yeah, there strife and confusion and God knows what, but the Dems aren't doing much better, in fact, they have a horse with no name.

It's surprising to hear you give such an open and honest appraisal of the Trump administration.

Sigh, because I'm not a partisan, I don't carry the water for any politician, I love my kids, but even THEY have a bad day now and then. Come on now....

I wouldn't have expected it from someone as alt-right as you.

And I wouldn't have expected a complement from someone as alt-left as you.

The Democrats are lost in the woods. The GOP is drowning in a swamp. I'd rather be lost.

Not if the woods have vipers in them, Washington seems to have a lot of.

Every wrinkled shirt needs a bit or ironing, 2 months, it'll get better once those tax reforms start rolling in.

Not sure how that's going to happen given the number of people who will benefit from the tax reform is so small.... the assumption is that there will be a trickle down effect to the average person... unfortunately the trickle down effect was debunked a long time ago

This is what I like about Trump - he doesn't hesitate to criticize anyone, including Republicans, if they deserve criticism.

Newt Gingrich outlines why GOP health care bill failed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewOTO_Wm54

In his inauguration, Trump rather directly called the congress (democrats and republicans alike) thieves and liars, who had stolen the wealth and well-being of America and gave it to themselves and their friends (and this was a just accusation). It is no surprise that they are not willing to work with him, particularly since one of his campaign promises was to greatly reduce their power through deregulation and term limits.

Serrano, he can dish it out but he sure can't take it and that, I think/hope, will be his downfall.

The tea party (now renamed the Freedom Caucus) has been an extreme fundamentalist (and tin foil hat wearing) group that has been a scourge of America for years. They don't want freedom, they want to bend America to their limited backwoods world-view.

I hate saying something good about Trump because he represents the smallest of thinking in America, but taking the Freedom Caucus on is the only good thing Trump has done to date. Well, I can't speak for his golf score.

If he knew what he was doing (obviously he doesn't), it would have been his day one agenda to get them in line or out of the legislature. He needs to war with these people. Maybe he would bring some democrats over and be able to have a reasonable agenda.

To give Trump the credit he deserves, this will end up being more rhetoric (or the usual lies) and much ado about nothing.

I hate saying something good about Trump because he represents the smallest of thinking in America, but taking the Freedom Caucus on is the only good thing Trump has done to date.

Trump is taking on all of them, because, despite what you may think, they are all the same. Left, right, red, blue, green, up, down, they are none of these things, they are in it for themselves, and the only reason they subscribe to a particular ideology is to win the votes of the ignorant schmucks.

Those politicians who support Trump are doing it out of self interest, and those who oppose Trump oppose him also do it for their own interest. The interests of America and Americans always comes in second with these people, if at all.

he can dish it out but he sure can't take it and that, I think/hope, will be his downfall.

No, it won't. It was because Trump is direct, and takes no $hit (even when he deserves it) is the reason he won. If he softens his approach, or turns the other cheek, he is more likely to lose support.

You do not understand the deep resentment that much of America feels toward Washington, and no insult Trump hurls at anyone in Washington is going to estrange him from those who voted for him. The more bombastic he is, the more these people will support him. The moment they begin to think that he is becoming part of what is Washington, he will lose this support.

Many people are tired of politically-correct diplo-speak, which all politicians use in place of the hard truth. Most people vote along party lines, and know only the face and name of those they vote for. Almost universally, they have no idea what that person really thinks or believes. And the people are tired of being lied to. They are promised more jobs, a larger middle class, and more opportunities for themselves and their children, and end up with less of all these things. Washington has not delivered. But with the government offices in Washington populated by self-interested pathological liars and thieves, this is not surprising.

Trump was right about a few things. First, America is not as well off as it once was, and that those in Washington are better off than they ever have been. The suburbs around Washington are the richest in America, if you think finding affordable housing in San Francisco is hard, try finding it around Mt Vernon.

And anyone talking American politics here, what do you really know about it? Can you name the mayor of the city where you live? Can you name the two senators from your state? Can you name the congressman who represents the district where you live? If you can't, then shut up, because if you are that ignorant, you are part of reason why American politics is so dysfunctional, and why Trump is now president.

The tea party (now renamed the Freedom Caucus) has been an extreme fundamentalist (and tin foil hat wearing) group that has been a scourge of America for years. They don't want freedom, they want to bend America to their limited backwoods world-view.

Backwards? Dunno, they got Trump elected, seems that me they go exactly what they wanted.

I hate saying something good about Trump because he represents the smallest of thinking in America,

I'm really not so sure, I think it's a lot more then people will let on, but you can't say you like Trump, if you do, you might get scorned, a beat down, ridiculed, mocked, harassed, so who the hell wants to go through that??

but taking the Freedom Caucus on is the only good thing Trump has done to date. Well, I can't speak for his golf score.

Well, he's done a few things, but I wouldn't expect libs to acknowledge it.

If he knew what he was doing (obviously he doesn't), it would have been his day one agenda to get them in line or out of the legislature.

He's not a professional politician, remember? For the life of me, I don't know why you libs hold him to the same standards as someone who has been in politics for 30-40 years.

He needs to war with these people. Maybe he would bring some democrats over and be able to have a reasonable agenda.

Hmmmm....at this point, I'm not so sure.

To give Trump the credit he deserves, this will end up being more rhetoric (or the usual lies) and much ado about nothing.

You can always count on the fringe left to make sure of it.

And anyone talking American politics here, what do you really know about it? Can you name the mayor of the city where you live? Can you name the two senators from your state?

sangetsu03: I for one, when I was living in the U.S., always knew who my governor, mayor, and senators were. From the time I was in high school, I was aware of politics. My earliest memory was volunteering wearing a sandwich board while waving with other volunteers at cars passing by. I was even proud when I turned 18 and was able to vote for the first time. Even though I live in Japan now, I still keep abreast of what's happening back home politically.

Like Trump, don't be quick to judge people, or create fake facts. Not all posters here are ranting without just cause, just like not all Muslims are terrorists; not all Hispanics are rapists, and not all blacks are murderers.

Spanki: "Serrano, he can dish it out but he sure can't take it and that, I think/hope, will be his downfall."

He's not going to have a downfall, Spanki.