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Assange's Swedish sex crimes file is leaked online

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My guess is that these two women want revenge to they decided to go after him on vague rape/molestation charges because that's all they had a chance with. They're probably using the courts to get their revenge.

In the end maybe he's just guilty of being a complete a$$hole, which technically isn't illegal. He had unprotected sex with a sleeping woman who previously insisted that he wear a condom. And on top of that he's trying to dodge the issue entirely by getting people top blame foreign governments which naturally distracts people from talking about what he actually did. What a guy...

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He definitely fits my description of a creep, but the woman who woke up to find him shagging her already knew that before she fell asleep. The fact she didn't even try objecting or stopping him when she awoke means it's her own tough luck in my opinion, and really, to expect a foreigner to know such niggling details of local law as 'it's rape if she's asleep' is pathetic. If she'd told him that when she woke up, told him to stop, then it would be his fault for continuing, but not for starting. She'd already consented to sex with him after all.

The lack of a condom was most definitely his fault alone, but as she didn't even try to stop him going through to the end, when we all know the highest risk of a woman catching HIV is when the most 'bodily fluids' are exchanged, she really has no business complaining now.

I don't think these charges were politically motivated. Although I think that they're now being used politically, I think it was pure greed that made those two women go and 'ask questions' at the police station, which they knew would lead to him being charged even though they didn't make a formal complaint as such. I wonder how much money they might have wanted to withdraw their allegations? Too late now though, once such a thing as this was in the public domain all over the world those two women lost all chance of using this to earn money, unless they write books. Nudge nudge, wink wink.

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What goes around comes around Julian. You admitted that you were only wearing her. How could this private matter be leaked? The outrage!!

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“She immediately asked: ‘Are you wearing anything?’ and he answered ‘You,’”

Sorry, but this made me laugh.

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Quote: “I can just say that I sent them to my client through his lawyer in London. But how it ended up on the Internet I don’t know,” Hurtig told The Associated Press. “It’s incredibly unfortunate.”

Now you know how it feels to have everything leaked.

Actually there is very little above that we didn't already know. He sounds like a leaky guy.

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SuperLib: "My guess is that these two women want revenge to they decided to go after him on vague rape/molestation charges because that's all they had a chance with. They're probably using the courts to get their revenge."

It's possible. It's also possible that the revenge has been 'sweetened' by people who want to see Assange jailed, hence the charges (cases) are not being thrown out altogether. This would never fly for anyone else.

"In the end maybe he's just guilty of being a complete a$$hole, which technically isn't illegal."

In terms of what he's done with these women, if true, then I agree. As for the other stuff (leaked documents), I'm not sure I agree.

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he is definitely a pervert. In one week two different women? Very disgusting.

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One good leak deserves another.

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two different women

wonder how pervert these two women were. Him I can understand.

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Are you wearing anything? ...'You'

Classic

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Julian Assange : "I like women from countries that have sustained politcal turmoil."

It is best that he be put behind bars.

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SolidariTea: "It is best that he be put behind bars."

It's pretty obvious the main reason you'd like to see him behind bars is for reasons OTHER than in the article at hand, which is why there is so much suspicion about these cases not being dropped. The lawyers themselves have said "it's a problem that the woman consented (after waking up" and that it's never been tried before in court. There's definitely ulterior motive involved with how hard some prosecutors are trying here.

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smithinjapan: It's possible. It's also possible that the revenge has been 'sweetened' by people who want to see Assange jailed, hence the charges (cases) are not being thrown out altogether. This would never fly for anyone else.

Sorry, who is being "sweetened"? The women or the authorities or both? Or the judges? Or all of Sweden?

And you think the charges should be thrown out? At best it's a legal gray area which seems pretty standard for how this guy operates. From the beginning I said that these women were probably cut from the same cloth as Assange and that they could be the cause of his downfall in the end, not from any government or antyhing Wikileaks related. My guess is that the authorities know they will be scrutinized and they don't want to look like they are giving consent for men to have sex with sleeping women.

I can't say I have the perfect legal answer but it seems like consent was given after the fact then revoked after the fact. Neither really changes what he did, tho. Had he actually been honest with the girl and told her that not only is he not using protection but he's sleeping with other women he'd probably be in jail now with one testicle missing. But he played his cards right, got the sex, and a built-in network of perfect stangers who will fight for him.

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My guess is that the women want to have themselves appear in the movie that will inevitably be made about him. They want to get book deals. And she thought it was "too late" and let him continue? It is not absolutely "too late" until ejaculation.

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Sweden, apparently, has some laws which elsewhere would be considered odd. One must recall that Sweden has pretty much evened the sexes there. Some claim that in Sweden, the pendulum has swung, somewhat, against men. Specific to this case, what consists rape.

One law they have is that consensual sex without a condom can be rape, with 2 yrs prison time, if you agree to wear one, but then in the act, renege on its use. So, no, it's not automatically rape (there would be no unpunished male Swede fathers, or they would all be in-vitro). It consists rape if you agree to wear one but then don't when you actually engage in sex.

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So what is this -- a wiki leak leak? Assange should be happy!

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Like Napoleon Dynamite, trying to play James Bond.

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It's a difficult situation. I think we can all understand the notion of rape if someone starts having sex with someone if they're sleeping, especially if they're not in an established relationship. You have to give women at least that.

But on the other hand you can't put men in a position where someone can change their mind and create rape charges as a means for revenge, which is probably happening here.

The one thing Assange probably won't be able to get around is the fact that the woman was sleeping. That fact alone could make the woman's contradictions irrelevant. That's a line that can't be uncrossed.

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"He was already inside her"

Wow, what a stud muffin!

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" the fact that the woman was sleeping."

The fact she says she was, and it cannot be checked.

I don't sleep so deeply, but maybe I don't drink enough. Suppose I did (pick up a guy I don't know and sleep in his bed + drink or take drugs + wake up in those circumstances), I still don't imaging letting the guy "continue", there would be witnesses hearing me screaming and scars on the perv. Suppose I did (let him continue quietly), going to the police days later with that story would seem totally weird.

How to say ? The guy surely deserves beatings, STDs or whatever for his attitude. But there is no way that trial is not politically motivated.

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The left's heros can never be wrong. Look at the Sea Shepherd articles. Same thing here.

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"Hey, you broke that condom on purpose"

"No, no honey, that's just a winky-leak..."

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The left's heros can never be wrong.

That's funny. We should make a long list of these wrongs and I agree it wouldn't be difficult. But taking the left/right glasses off for a moment, there are just too many weird things about this case that certainly raise the issue of it being an attempt to destroy Assange, though it looks to be more related to his sleeping around / cheating than anything more political.

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Cos: Suppose I did (let him continue quietly), going to the police days later with that story would seem totally weird.

The reason the women went to the police is because they became aware of each other. They thought they had snagged their dream guy only to find out that he was having unprotected sex with both of them in the same week. This is all about them being pissed off about it and using the courts to get back at him.

How to say ? The guy surely deserves beatings, STDs or whatever for his attitude. But there is no way that trial is not politically motivated.

This trial is about two women who are most likely as shallow and flaky as he is. It's illogical to think that they would be motivated by anything else given their story. I can't imagine anyone actually got together and said, "Hey, let's frame him for some obscure rape law that probably doesn't have much chance of success while making it clear they consented after the fact."

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Here is a Swedish national talking about the case.

youtube. com/watch?v=7K3WW7frMfw

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" Oym bayin chahjed with ripe?"

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