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Murder case against ex-cop in Floyd's death goes to the jury

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By AMY FORLITI, STEPHEN GROVES and TAMMY WEBBER

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Regardless of the verdict, he did it. He’s a murderer.

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Ah, the justice system of Papa Doc, Mussolini, Stalin, Trujillo, Hitler, Kim Jung Un, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro... just beacons of justice. Too

Don't be ridiculous. We have a video of a man being murdered, crying out to breathe as his wind-pipe is crushed by a man's knee, while ignoring his pleas. It is one of the most open and shut murder cases I've ever seen.

I hope it is guilty, not just for justice, but to prevent the awful consequences of an innocent verdict.

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I’m more concerned about the loud, obnoxious mouth of Maxine Waters. She almost caused a mistrial by calling for violence if anything less than a guilty murder conviction is reached. But usually leftists are so clueless they hurt their own cause. She knows it. She’s not really for justice. Let’s hope the jury remains with integrity and gives the correct verdict based on their interpretation of the evidence.

I agree. Maxine Waters has always been a problem when it comes to racial division and is as bad as Al Sharpton and Linda Sansour, these are racial bomb throwers. Was really glad to hear the judge call her out as he should have. Maxine Waters was the lawyer and represented Damian Williams, the man who bashed in Reginald Denny’s head during the LA riots with a fire hydrant. He was the one dancing in the streets while Denny was on the ground bleeding out who now has a metal plate in his head. So even way back then this woman was an embarrassment for the state in California.

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and Maxine Waters inciting violence has put the whole trial into jeopardy.

She said people need to "fight" and be "confrontational" if they dont get their demanded verdict. thats a no-no, Maxine.

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and Maxine Waters inciting violence has put the whole trial into jeopardy. 

She said people need to "fight" and be "confrontational" if they dont get their demanded verdict. thats a no-no, Maxine.

Words incite violence and people should be responsible for that. You got there finally.

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Nothing short of Chauvin the murderer being found guilty of all three charges, with a prison sentence of no less than 20 years, will be satisfactory.

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so why does Nancy Pelosi say its fine when her team does it? I will "get there" when its wrong for BOTH sides.

Maxine even used the naughty word "fight" that Dems acted like they have never used before and were supposedly so shocked and horrified by before.

Words incite violence and people should be responsible for that. You got there finally.

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I just can't get over that stupid smug, arrogant, defiant look on Chauvin's face. The very same face he had when he was murdering George Floyd.

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I bet ¥10000 that he will be given an 18 month prison sentence for ONLY manslaughter, to prevent a civil war. He will serve it in an open prison.

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Words incite violence and people should be responsible for that. You got there finally.

I’m just happy the judge called her out on that.

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The police and the prosecution did a good job of clearly laying out the improper actions Chauvin took during the arrest, and the coroner did a good job linking those actions to Floyd's death. It's a jury trial, so you never know, but after hearing their case it's hard to imagine people would think they didn't reach the required burden of proof.

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Floyd could talk while Chauvin was on him. If he could talk, he could breathe, despite saying “I can’t breathe.” He also claimed he couldn’t breathe earlier, so his cries fell on deaf ears. He died from the massive amounts of fentanyl he swallowed to hide it from the cops. It was unfortunate but not murder.

Regardless, Maxine Waters handed Chauvin a get out of jail free card by basically threatening the jury and calling for riots. The judge mentioned this.

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Chauvin's life has been turned upside down by his 9 minute, 28-second act. He's lost his home, his wife has divorced him and he'll be in hock to lawyers for the rest of his life. His name will forever be associated with policemen overreaching their authority to apprehend and arrest suspects, particularly members of minority groups. The costs of the damages from riots in Minneapolis are substantial. He has also made the job that much harder for his fellow officers. It's hard to believe one man could do such damage. He might improve his chances if he were to express remorse or regret for Floyd's death, which he hasn't done. As things stand right now, it is hard to feel any sympathy for him.

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Floyd could talk while Chauvin was on him. If he could talk, he could breathe, despite saying “I can’t breathe.”

I'm guessing that you're not familiar with the Salem witch trials and the 'pressing' of the accused until they either confessed, or died because the weight on them meant they couldn't inhale. They truly WANTED confessions, not death without confessions, so they didn't crush theory stone them, they pressed them.

And you're definitely not someone trained in rescue techniques for people caught in construction trench cave ins. There's an entire section on the need to ignore that they're still talking to you while buried to the neck, they're suffocating and need IMMEDIATE response or they're dead.

PS, what made crucifixion so horrific a death it was only reserved for terrorists was because what killed the victim was not being able to get enough air in to live, but still being able to talk.

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Chauvin's life has been turned upside down by his 9 minute, 28-second act. He's lost his home, his wife has divorced him and he'll be in hock to lawyers for the rest of his life. His name will forever be associated with policemen overreaching their authority to apprehend and arrest suspects, particularly members of minority groups. The costs of the damages from riots in Minneapolis are substantial. He has also made the job that much harder for his fellow officers. It's hard to believe one man could do such damage. He might improve his chances if he were to express remorse or regret for Floyd's death, which he hasn't done. As things stand right now, it is hard to feel any sympathy for him.

But for the prosecution the bigger problem is, can they establish the intent of Chauvin’s mental state at the time? If they can’t prove his intentions were malicious that could easily lead a juror or two to not vote for a guilty verdict and that’s what everyone is zeroing now, that little window sowing doubt intentional probability.

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Every time they show that video, it reminds me of an angry white slave owner with his knee on the head & neck of a slave.

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Every time they show that video, it reminds me of an angry white slave owner with his knee on the head & neck of a slave.

Every time they show that video, it reminds me of an SS trooper ("just following orders") with his Luger pointed at the head of a non-Aryan.

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I dont know whats going on in your minds with all this slave and Nazi stuff.

I see a policeman restraining a much larger man who refused to cooperate when detained for a crime and who was already under the influence of enough illegal drugs to kill several men.

you do realize there will be riots either way the verdict goes, right?

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Blacklabel: I see a policeman restraining a much larger man who refused to cooperate when detained for a crime and who was already under the influence of enough illegal drugs to kill several men.

The police department has a different view.

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The American Right: The second amendment protects us against a tyrannical government.

Also the right: why can't black people just do what they're told? This wouldn't have happened if you just listened to the tyrannical government.

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GdTokyo

Regardless of the verdict, he did it. He’s a murderer.

Yep, that is the attitude of the media, which has been drumming up tension for months, the attitude of the mob outside, and the attitude of that congresswoman who called for riots unless the verdict is guilty.

If I was on the jury, I would vote guilty on all charges immediately, and attach a note to the judge that I did so for the safety of myself and my family, without looking at evidence.

Alas, the jury will forget to attach the note.

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stormcrow

Every time they show that video, it reminds me of an angry white slave owner with his knee on the head & neck of a slave.

You mean the selective clip that the legacy media showed you? By the same token, do you also believe that the Covington kids were harrassing an indian tribal member or that Trump called the neonazis "fine people"? I could go on.

If you base your view solely on the on the reporting of the legacy media, you would indeed.

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 why can't black people just do what they're told?

Yes, if the officer gives you a command you comply. If they tell you to stop, then you stop, if they tell you to turn around, you turn around, they can't beat you or choke you into submission, but they can tell you certain things and if they are within the law you comply, if you don't like it, too bad, you comply, get the officers badge number and the department where they work at and then you file a complaint, being combative and resistant won't help, it never does.

This wouldn't have happened if you just listened to the tyrannical government.

If the police were allowed under their state's law to uphold the law, last year's violent riots would never have gone as far as they did and maybe even Portland would look a lot different today. That kind of outrageous criminality wouldn't happen in Florida and that's why people can't move there fast enough

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of course they do. If they dont- Black Lives Matter will be appearing outside their home.

They even vandalized one of the witnesses previous home, he doesnt even live there anymore.

The police department has a different view.

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seriously, what is the protective narrative when the officer is found guilty.... and BLM riots anyway?

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Floyd could talk while Chauvin was on him. If he could talk, he could breathe, despite saying “I can’t breathe.” He also claimed he couldn’t breathe earlier, so his cries fell on deaf ears. He died from the massive amounts of fentanyl he swallowed to hide it from the cops. It was unfortunate but not murder.

You should have taken the stand and given your expert testimony. Too bad, Chauvin goes down and you could have saved him.

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seriously, what is the protective narrative when the officer is found guilty.... and BLM riots anyway?

How will you mask your disappointment if they don’t?

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No winners here. George Floyd had left a bad situation in Texas and moved north. But his demons caught up with him and he got back into drugs/crime. In all honesty I think he was trying but the addictive nature of fentanyl and other opioids is truly horrifying. Probably his drug-influenced state made him act so irrationally and resist arrest so forcefully. Not to mention that he WAS a big strong looking dude. Nobody would think he has heart trouble or any kind of delicate health issues.

So what were the police to do? Once they are notified of a crime, witness further illegal activity, and attempting an arrest, there is no turning back. They can't just let the suspect go. They HAVE to gain some control of the situation and the suspect.

Was Chauvin malicious and depraved? I really don't think so. Did he screw up? Absolutely. Does his screw up rise to the level of criminal? That is the question here. I just worry that any result less than a full murder conviction and loooooong sentence will bring on ridiculous amounts of civil unrest and rioting. In the long run, this is the biggest problem. People losing respect for the rule of law, and losing respect for their own communities. Nihilism is growing and needs to be confronted.

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