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I never could understand the forced quarantining and vaccination of the young and healthy. A lot of good that did.

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Oh well!!! Maybe we need to draw more because some of us didn't get the message.

Some are still inssisting that testing people will improve the situation that the world face, however, none of the place where everyone is tested have zero deaths and zero cases.

If test was meant to solve this problem, Australia and Korea woud be now living their normal life; things that we know that it is not true.

South Korea for instance had this week over 100 death and be sincere guys, do you guys really think that if Korea had same number of tests that is done in Japan, the number of deaths in S. Korea would change or be more? Just use you brain!!!

Deaths is not result of lack of test, but yes for people who have fail to fulfill some part of the rules or just for some reason else that only who are in Heaven knows.

You know the reason for the high numbers dont you?

Yes Marcelito, I know. The reason is the government of South Korea and Australia let people too free insomuch people think that they could do things as it was before the pandemic period. That has nothing to do with number of test. Just to have an idea, S. Korea had more than 5 thousand new cases compared to Japan that had 350 cases. Just make S. Korea number of test be same as Japan, the number of S. Korea would still be higher than Japan.

The number os test is not a main problem, but the way how people deal with this desease. You can test everyone, but if everyone dont washes their hands properly, don't have good healthy habits, etc... the tendency to have high number of cases will occur. The same way, if you test a certain number of people and everyone follow the rules, the tendency to have few numbers may occur.

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possibly, but the majority of hospitalisation and deaths will still be unvaccinated

not true for omicron. The symptoms for both vaccinated and unvaccinated resemble the cold or flu.

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wtfjapan

that means vaccinated and unvaccinated people alike will be getting omicron.

possibly, but the majority of hospitalisation and deaths will still be unvaccinated

So far, the data show that Omicron is very infectious but weak and leads to few, if any, hospitalizations and deaths. Do you have data to the contrary?

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We keep hearing about these kind of such studies but never actually see data from them..............

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/11/covid-19-vaccines-85-effective-against-hospital-cases-weaken-over-time

There is something called "Google".

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Even the idiots must have some idea what could have helped the cases nosedive to present levels from levels around after the Olympics

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that means vaccinated and unvaccinated people alike will be getting omicron.

possibly, but the majority of hospitalisation and deaths will still be unvaccinated

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Not a vaccine so weak that it still would allow “all” to get COVID anyway

and yet recent studies in the US on US servicemen show that 91% of hospitalisation from covid are unvaccinated and also 94% of deaths,

once again for the dumbos, vaccines do reduce the risk of infections it doesnt stop them altogether, masks social distancing, hygiene is the best to reduce infections.

Vaccines reduce your chances of hospitalisation and death by up to 16times compared to unvaccinated, backed by statistics in multiple different countries.

No catching covid doesnt make you immune to covid, just like catching the flu , most people have got it more than once, flu vaccine greatly reduces your chances of serious illness and death just like the covid vaccine, and requires yearly booster shots

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And, last one's good habits with higiene is a key point to prevent us to have contact with bactery, virus and other kind parasites.

oh ok then Australia NZ Korea Singapore all must have better hygiene than Japanese since they have lower infections and deaths per capita compared to Japan

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“We would expect that pretty well everybody in New South Wales at some point will get Omicron,”

So much for "vaccines prevent COVOD". Because unless the meaning of everybody has now been changed too, that means vaccinated and unvaccinated people alike will be getting omicron.

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“We would expect that pretty well everybody in New South Wales at some point will get Omicron,”

and

More than 30,000 people in Victoria spent Christmas isolating at home, unable to celebrate with family or friends

These two statements don't add up. If everyone is expected to catch this variant at some point, which is no bigger deal than the common cold or flu, then why force people into isolation? Ridiculous. Also funny to see all the media-led Australian sheep queueing up for hours and hours to get tested while asymptomatic - what a waste of time and resources.

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Having boosters shots every 3 months is already being normalized in Australian media.

People with 2 shots but no booster will soon be treated as pariah.

Meanwhile poor countries cannot secure enough vaccine to meet the needs of their populations and that right there will ensure further mutations occur.

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 “If we’re all going to get omicron, the best way to face it is when we have full vaccinations including our booster.”

No that would be to focus on therapeutics.

Not a vaccine so weak that it still would allow “all” to get COVID anyway

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Next you’ll have to be up to date with vax boosters in Aust that’s looking at 3 months shortly, and here it’s what 8 months ! Good luck getting back, might wanna buy a boat.

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How many people are actually dying is the real key to understanding the situation.

The number of deaths is important to know. But I'm somewhat surprised to read those who've long moaned about Covid's effects on the economy are not recognizing what this latest strain and others have done to businesses everywhere. Sick people even with, as the pandemic deniers claim, just a cold are staying away from work, as they should. A real shame has been the slowness of many governments to respond quickly and appropriately to the virus. Shame on the media too, who've pushed disinformation and allowed disinformation to be pushed by posters.

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Mitsuo MatsuyamaToday  01:47 pm JST

One year ago some people here at Japan Today criticized Japan strongly for Japan not testing everyone.

After one year we see countries that were very famous back one year ago for testing everyone like Australia and S.Korea and today we see both of them with higher number of cases and deaths.

From this, I can come to the conclusion that number of test will not lead to improvement of results regarding Covid-19.

This is completely flawed logic. Testing allows the authorities to know the scope and scale of infections within a community. More testing, and the results get more accurate/representative of what is happening in the comunity as a whole.

As it stands, Japan is currently performing 30x LESS tests than Australia and is having to guess at total infection rates based on extrapolation of a relatively low sample size for information.

This information is then, of course, used to shape public health responses.

You then have to ask, would Japans response to the Pandemic, Olympics, GoToTravel etc been different had the sampling been more comprehensive?

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It was always inevitable that the virus would have to be let run, particularly when vaccine rates got to a certain level . The number to take note of though is the hospitalisation rates which, so far, are manageable. It's funny though for the past 18 months the NSW govt, and heaps of the population, have been pointing the finger and berating all the other states. Now they are the plague ground zero.

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Well, the state of NSW has about 800 icu beds, so 52 from Covid is not really that desperate. How many people are actually dying is the real key to understanding the situation."

Indeed, after 2 years & at this point with Omicron which seems to be less severe than Delta, admittedly number of seriously sick in ICU is more important indicator than the sheer number of positive tests.

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Good healthy habits is a main important thing to keep our bodies protected against any kind of desease."

Agree with that one.

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After one year we see countries that were very famous back one year ago for testing everyone like Australia and S.Korea and today we see both of them with higher number of cases and deaths.

From this, I can come to the conclusion that number of test will not lead to improvement of results regarding Covid-19.

Cant really see the logic here with regards to SK testing. Japan has a testing rate of 230,000/million people, SK 300,000/million. Not a huge difference at all.

As for deaths? Japan's deaths are sitting at 146/million, SK at 102/million, Australia at 84/million. All very, very low on a world scale. All among the very lowest in the OECD.

So, again, I fail to see any connection between Japans lower testing and lower deaths as you suggest.

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After one year we see countries that were very famous back one year ago for testing everyone like Australia and S.Korea and today we see both of them with higher number of cases and deaths."

You know the reason for the high numbers dont you? They test nearly everyone that moves , NSW alone did over 100 thousand tests yesterday ..drive in testing centres all over the country are testing full on everyday ...just Google a pic of Bondi beach & beachgoer cars lined up for a test. How many tests did Tokyo do yesterday? Japan only tests people that have 4 days continuing high temperatures & other symptoms. Since Omicron anecdotally seems to manifest as a mild flu for a few days in many people you can bet there soon will be / already are thousands of Japanese walking around with it but never getting tested hence not showing up in official numbers. Tatemae is super important here...Japan never tests at anywhere near the level of other countries so there is no point comparing apples with oranges.

From this, I can come to the conclusion that number of test will not lead to improvement of results regarding Covid-19."

The number of tests will accurately show the spread of virus in the population..Japan has resisted to do this over the last 2 years. What happened to Abe,s promise to test 200 thousand daily ?

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The media uses "case numbers" as a way to make people who live in countries like the US, Brazil, and England think that this is the most important number to focus on. It is like what happen in western C.M. where companies show on the screen huge hamburrguer when actually that hamburguer is small.

The media never inform details like who are those who get infected and how many of them present mild symptoms and how many are asymptomatics. The media only gives the tottal number and by doing it, people who are not aware of the sittuation think that such number is very severe.

Of course we need to take precaution and keep on mind that Covid 19 can kill people, but we also need to look on other details before taking conclusion about numbers.

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Well, the state of NSW has about 800 icu beds, so 52 from Covid is not really that desperate. How many people are actually dying is the real key to understanding the situation.

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One year ago some people here at Japan Today criticized Japan strongly for Japan not testing everyone.

After one year we see countries that were very famous back one year ago for testing everyone like Australia and S.Korea and today we see both of them with higher number of cases and deaths.

From this, I can come to the conclusion that number of test will not lead to improvement of results regarding Covid-19.

Vaccines help a lot people to protect us against Covid 19, but that is not a main fact.

Good healthy habits is a main important thing to keep our bodies protected against any kind of desease.

And, last one's good habits with higiene is a key point to prevent us to have contact with bactery, virus and other kind parasites.

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