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Curfew imposed in Melbourne after pub crawls; Darwin in lockdown; NSW sees worst day of pandemic

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Success of the lockdowns in Sydney. About the same number of official cases as Tokyo, but of course with 10 times the number of tests. However also about the same number of deaths.

Read what you want in this on the success of strict lockdowns and bulk testing. Just saying. Tokyo might get a lot worse but Sydney doesn’t look like it’s getting better better either.

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Residents aged 16-to-39 in Sydney’s worst-effected suburbs will be given 530,000 of the new doses, the government said. This age group was responsible for most of the virus spread.

That is a good idea, but on the other hand, I heard that a vaccinated person can spread the virus in the same way like an unvaccinated person.

If that is correct, that would mean, that to vaccinate the people to prevent the spread of the virus, makes zero sense.

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Monty - You're better than this. Yes - we can still spread it as vaccinated people (although early studies do seem to point to reduced transmission) - But its primarily to stop us getting sick that we require medical intervention, hence we started with the over 65's. Now we should we concentrating on the group that ARE spreading it in their 20's and 30's. Don't have any regrets about having those jabs.

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How can you say, that real lockdowns don’t work when they’ve still not even tried once? Some restrictions and a curfew on top are no lockdown deserving that description, but are only, you guess it , some restrictions and a curfew only, not more, not less.

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@Resident

Don't misunderstand... I agree with you.

I was just wondering, why Australia said they want to vaccinate the 16-39 aged people because they are responsible for the most spread of the virus.

To get vaccinated to get not sick, I understand.

But to get vaccinated to stop the spread, I do not understand. Because I heard even you are vaccinated you can spread the Virus.

But maybe what I heard is wrong.

I mean if vaccinated means, I do not spread or at least less spread the Virus, that would be awesome, because then, the pandemic is over soon.

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Seven people have died in a state with over 8 million people. Let's panic and abolish people's freedoms!!!

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More evidence of how effective all the silly 'control measures"bwirk

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If that is correct, that would mean, that to vaccinate the people to prevent the spread of the virus, makes zero sense.

They vaccinate people to stop deaths. How is that for making sense?

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The Guardian reports that fewer than 26% of Australians 16 and over are fully vaccinated, and that current plans are for 80% to be vaccinated by December.

A country of only 25 million should be able to vaccinate everyone much more quickly than that.

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@Sven Asai: You still don't tell us what you mean by a 'Lockdown'. We've seen various models now. UK. France.. And as mentioned here Australia.

Please, please explain what you mean?

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Closed the playgounds too, that’ll teach the brats.

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@theResident I’ve explained it repeatedly and mostly it’s of course attacked, censored, deleted. That’s why you maybe have missed it. The kernel of a lockdown has to include the fact, that those viruses can live in vivo (in us, pets, animals, unburied corpses and all such) for up to 71 days as scientists found out already last year or beginning 2021. First a well preparation, people buying food etc. for that time, military installs water supply in the streets, only minimum staff elsewhere, power stations for example. Then the viruses are extinguished, getting sick people are taken out from isolation into hospitals and so on. After three months everything is over. But no one wants even to try it once, everyone prefers endlessly next waves and long term distortions in society, business and individuals, including LongCovid and a severely reduced life expectancy. That’s the option chosen and I strictly disagree with it. I don’t think we can live with the viruses for a longer timeframe.

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Ok Sven... And how am I, and many others supposed to earn money in the meantime? Are you seriously suggesting closing all Industrial Manafacturing, all supermarkets, the Stock Market, Banking System. Etc etc for THREE months? I have to understand what you are saying here. Is that correct?

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In that time,many many people would commit suicide from depression caused by loneliness just as a starter. No exercise would cause health problems for years to come. Lack of Vitamin D. The list is endless and entirely impossible.

It hasn't happened anywhere like that because it simply can't.

Your 'solution' would cause more deaths short and long term than Covid.

Insane.

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Unlimited Free Beer to all those who self-isolate at home.

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Monty...

That is a good idea, but on the other hand, I heard that a vaccinated person can spread the virus in the same way like an unvaccinated person.

Sorry, but you heard a falsehood.

If that is correct, that would mean, that to vaccinate the people to prevent the spread of the virus, makes zero sense.

Luckily, that isn't correct. So vaccinating people makes perfect sense. We have been successfully doing this for years. Small pox, rabies, polio, Typhoid, TB....... COVID

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Kipling

That is a good idea, but on the other hand, I heard that a vaccinated person can spread the virus in the same way like an unvaccinated person.

Sorry, but you heard a falsehood.

Sorry but science says otherwise...

"Vaccinated people can still become infected and spread the virus to others."

Source is : https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

Enjoy

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Berejiklian blamed Sydney residents’ failure to comply with the city’s lockdown restrictions and stay-at-home orders for the escalating infections

I don't think that's particularly fair as the delta variant spreads very easily, so even basic tasks like food shopping in a society without vaccinations is going to be a problem

Also the upgrade lambda variant was reported in Australia in July, again in a non vaccinated population. That's going to go up

Linear vaccinations vs exponential infection can only go down as the population size is finite. Until then expect the expected

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Wow, vaccine rollout is even slower than Japan. If I were an Australian, I’d be kind of irritated at the government.

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my understanding is if your vaccinated you have a much lower chance of catching the virus,

thus vaccinations will reduce cases dramatically but not eliminate corona.

It is certainty there will be corona in melbourne next year and for ever after .

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