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Hmmm strange for it to travel so far so fast…

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8420261/

Post-COVID-19 vaccine acute hyperactive encephalopathy with dramatic response to methylprednisolone: A case report

Hmmmm

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“Japanese” encephalitis?

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" rainfall events" ????? qualitatively different to 'rainfall' I wonder...

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“Japanese” encephalitis?

Yes.

Google is your friend.

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yes, Google is where I learned it is racist to identify a disease with a country or nationality. (i.e. China virus)

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Blacklabel:

The "black label" you refer to is simply the universally accepted nomenclature: even Japanese Wikipedia embraces the name [日本脳炎(にほんのうえん、英語: Japanese encephalitis)] .

You may be confusing scientific terminology with your desire to inappropriately cast blame.

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Post-COVID-19 vaccine acute hyperactive encephalopathy with dramatic response to methylprednisolone: A case report

If you don't understand the words on the articles you are trying to link you can always ask, encephalopathy and encephalitis are not even close to being similar.

yes, Google is where I learned it is racist to identify a disease with a country or nationality. (i.e.

If you try to read you will understand this is a relatively recent change, JEV has been called like that for many decades, long before the recent efforts to change that. It is like complaining now about a disease called Parkinson's.

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The type of encephalitis in this article is rarely found in Japan today. Blacklabel is 100% correct. Interesting to see people make the elementary fallacy "Because that's the way it's always been." Not scientific. Recently in the US major sports teams changed their names from what were racist names used for over one hundred years. The fact the teams had used racist names for decades did not hinder making changes now. And trying to make an analogy between a disease named after the individual who discovered it with diseases named after an entire Asian nation or people---well, that is soft science education gone wild.

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The type of encephalitis in this article is rarely found in Japan today. Blacklabel is 100% correct. Interesting to see people make the elementary fallacy "Because that's the way it's always been." Not scientific. Recently in the US major sports teams changed their names from what were racist names used for over one hundred years. The fact the teams had used racist names for decades did not hinder making changes now. And trying to make an analogy between a disease named after the individual who discovered it with diseases named after an entire Asian nation or people---well, that is soft science education gone wild

Soft science education?

Eh?

The walls should close in on this gibberish.

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Would it be racist to say 'American Psychopathy'? But the parallel between "Chinese virus" and "Japanese Encephalitis" seems pretty clear. But, the fast is that conditions and diseases named after people or places are a nightmare to deal with and a clear, succinct 'technical word' description, even if longer, is always better. In the case of JEV, the name is rooted in the literature but the choice of Covid-19 was preferable rather than, Chinvid-19. In the case of JEV, perhaps Flaviorientalis or some other more imaginative term not capable of spawning hatred in the primitive brain?

And, of course:

If you don't understand the words on the articles you are trying to link you can always ask, encephalopathy and encephalitis are not even close to being similar.

Encephalitis creates encephalopathy which is, IMHO, reasonably close to 'similar'. The -itis ending in words indicates 'inflammation" and the -osis ending indicates a condition, status, process, whether normal or diseased, or sometimes an increase such as encephalosis or 'swelled head' as we see in the above quote.

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that is soft science education gone wild.

Pray tell, what is "soft science education"?

I'm suspecting it's the newest boogeyman of the right, like "Socialists", "Communists", Social Justice Warriors etc.

Just another tagline they can get angry about, without even knowing what it means.

Because we all know, "soft science education" is complete and utter gibberish. Or at least, anyone who can understand a "real science education" can recognized it as gibberish at a glance, I supposed people who use terms like "soft science education" must not realize how stupid they look using such a gibberish term, or they wouldn't embarrass themselves by using it.

My bad, there I go destroying narratives again. So rude of me.

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Interesting the number of comments here that make irrelevant remarks, avoiding the issue. And funny how easy it is to see people reveal that they do not have any background in the hard sciences, because they don't even know the meaning of soft sciences. An elementary term, which I guess Englush teachers can be forgiven for not knowing. What do you think kids, is Japanese encephalitis an acceptable term, where China virus is not? Why? Tough questions for an easy crowd.

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@Roxy Music

Take it easy.

You were asked to explain ‘soft science education’. In your emotion, you lost track of the question being asked.

What are you talking about? Surely you see what little sense you are making here.

Don’t get upset, It’s just that I have a science background and like precision.

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The type of encephalitis in this article is rarely found in Japan today. Blacklabel is 100% correct

No, that is still completely wrong, the effort made is about not increasing the names that include places or people, it has never been about changing already stablished names, specially from many decades ago, pretending it is just a transparent lack of ability to understand it. The same as thinking is the same situation as if diseases were sport teams. Or pretending a source says something it does not.

Do you want also stablished names to change? then work to popularize that movement as well, the current effort is to avoid increasing the number.

Encephalitis creates encephalopathy which is, IMHO, reasonably close to 'similar'

Appeals to authority from a nameless person on the internet are not a valid argument, encephalitis is a well defined syndrome that may or not create encephalopaty (which is why it is used for other things). Hemorrhoids can also cause hemorrages, but trying to say increase of hemorrhoids may be bacause of hemorrhagic fever viruses makes no sense. It is completely wrong.

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Does anyone here have even a rudimentary understanding of basic scientific principles applied to the type of virus discussed in this article? I'm just seeing knee-jerk reactions, and veiled insults thrown about just because a common phrase, which is surprisingly not understood by many, was casually used. Strangely inaccurate analogies are hastily put together. So, people get all fired up when the term China Virus is used, yet they meekly accept Japanese encephalitis? Quite amusing.

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Does anyone here have even a rudimentary understanding of basic scientific principles applied to the type of virus discussed in this article? 

There is no need for any "scientific knowledge" necessary to easily understand that criticizing a well stablished name not being changed because of a movement to not name new pathogens according to places or people is obviously invalid, which is exactly what you are doing.

What "scientific" knowledge would make the WHO initiative magically be applied retrospectively? that is as wrong as the comment pretending encephalitis and encephalopathy are the same thing.

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So, people get all fired up when the term China Virus is used, yet they meekly accept Japanese encephalitis? Quite amusing.

It's quite simple. 'China Virus' was a term used by long since disposed of incompetent leaders to blame their incompetent responses to a problem that they couldn't intellectually grasp on another nation. Preferably a nation that they don't like or understand. Unsurprisngly right wingers made a virus a political tool, who'd have guessed.

Therefore that country's leader could happily take minimal precautions beyond suggesting necking bleach / light and fall back on the excuse that it was all someone else's fault that citizens were dying in their thousands.

Fortunately normal people can see through the BS of the American alt-right and it won't be being called the 'China / Wuhan virus' anytime soon. Bad luck, keep trying.

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Fortunately normal people can see through the BS of the American alt-right and it won't be being called the 'China / Wuhan virus' anytime soon. Bad luck, keep trying.

I’d give 1/2 odds on Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson and Alex Berenson playing on YouTube.

Ten a penny types. So uninteresting. So unoriginal.

As Roxy Music sang, same old scene.

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The point of 'science' is as an ACTIVITY which studies the Great Unknown around us and, through trial and error, provides KNOWLEDGE which is mistakenly labeled 'Science' by those mostly ignorant of the knowledge and/or 'Experts' and 'Authorities' who seek to influence. Terms used by people engaged in activities related to specialized areas of this knowledge are best coined using descriptive word forms which illuminate rather than obscure the subject. Using place names or personal names places a burden on the user and especially, for example, young physicians who must navigate a maze of disease names unrelated to the condition they may be observing and many times more difficult for the interested 'layperson'.

Appeals to authority from a nameless person on the internet are not a valid argument, encephalitis is a well defined syndrome that may or not create encephalopaty (which is why it is used for other things). Hemorrhoids can also cause hemorrages, but trying to say increase of hemorrhoids may be bacause of hemorrhagic fever viruses makes no sense. It is completely wrong.

Hey! Good response albeit 'bleeding hemorrhoids' could be a sign of a hemorrhagic fever virus. But, you're right. In my haste to respond to someone I find highly proctocephalotic, I didn't parse the extended nuances of my comment. When again attending to the sound of arrogance, I will be more thoughtful.

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And a lesser realized result of attempting to politically label diseases was seen recently when the push to label COVID-19 the 'China' virus died an almost instantaneous death when the news came out that Fort Detrick in Maryland, America's premier bioweapon's lab, had been SHUTDOWN in the midst of an outbreak of a poorly defined 'lung disorder' in the population around the lab. All of the "CHINA VIRUS!", "WUHAN VIRUS!" shouting voices just faded away...Hmmm

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Hey! Good response albeit 'bleeding hemorrhoids' could be a sign of a hemorrhagic fever virus.

So would be no symptom, which still means it is not something even likely to be indicative of the infection. If your whole point depends on persistin on a wrong symptom just saying "it is possible" that is still meaningless. Science advances by discarding errors, not by persistin on them no matter what because you don't like being wrong.

A sudden spike of encephalitis, following an increase of the known vector of an specific pathogen that produces, and that has been confirmed as the cause means that trying to force another cause that do not even cause encephalitis makes no sense. It is not only wrong, it is deeply antiscientific to keep repeating it is "possible" for this to happen. Arrogance is to pretend anything you can think about must be correct and considered even when it can prove to be unrelated with ease, and to base something being correct only on your supposed authority.

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Wait until mosquitos can overwinter in Honshu and you will see a real epidemic of vector borne diseases in Japan, not only Japanese encephalitis (young people are not being vaccinated against it anymore), but many other as well. Australia is just a warning about what is to come because of climate change.

On the other hand, trying to blame this on COVID vaccines? really? that is desperate even for antivaxxers, ONE case of encephalitis do not explain an outbreak of the very different syndrome of encephalitis, you need to be totally ignorant about medicine to pretend they are related.

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