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Australia reinstates COVID-19 restrictions in Melbourne after cluster grows to 9 cases

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Now this is what a speedy , on the ball response looks like. Compare to the ichigo combover response here and weep.

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Contrary to Japan Australia seems to know what has to be done!

Next step no Australian Olympic team going to Japan.

And it might happen that others will follow (USA?).

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Next step no Australian Olympic team going to Japan

They'll be going, but all athletes and staff will be vaccinated.

The main concern with this small outbreak is where it came from.

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I am curious how many years more will this continue?

Until the end of the world???

Always when there are 1, 2, or 5 new cases, life restrictions will be implemented?

This virus will exist probably forever, so this life restrictions will be implemented forever too?

And immediately as 1 or 2 cases appear?

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All that this ridiculous whack-a-mole overreaction by Australian bureaucrats does is destroy the economy and peoples lifes. Instead of a sensible risk management, we see authoritarian overreach. So sad.

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Judging by Australian news, it is full steam ahead for the Olympics from Australia with daily stories about qualifying events, uniforms or whatever. No matter about their own internal strict measures to contain the virus, that will see Melbourne go into a lockdown far stricter than a Japanese SOE for a handful of cases, which would make Olympics impossible in Australia, all is forgotten when it comes to the Olympics in Japan. Today’s Australian sport reporter was so sad for the poor athletes waiting for an extra year. People can’t even leave Australia to go overseas to see sick family members but this of course is wavered for Olympic athletes, ( as well as politicians and other select people. )

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Today's headlines:

-Australia reinstates COVID-19 restrictions in Melbourne after fresh outbreak

-U.S. warns its citizens against travel to Japan due to COVID surge

-Osaka hospitals buckle under COVID-19 onslaught

-Japan plans to extend COVID-19 state of emergency beyond May 31

And the Olympics will still go on as scheduled no matter what?

Crazy! Suga, get a backbone!

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U.S. warns its citizens against travel to Japan due to COVID surge

-Osaka hospitals buckle under COVID-19 onslaught

-Japan plans to extend COVID-19 state of emergency beyond May 31”

Media hysteria. The truth is always somewhere in the middle

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Google health effects on citizens during lockdown...

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WilliB - All that this ridiculous whack-a-mole overreaction by Australian bureaucrats does is destroy the economy and peoples lifes. Instead of a sensible risk management, we see authoritarian overreach. So sad.

it is sad that some people do not understand just how serious the virus is and believe that it will go away by itself. The lockdown measures are necessary and effective. Australia is virtually virus free and has been for months because of them.

it’s interesting the quoted post mentions economics. This is a short economic downturn in a very small area of the city. The rest of Australia is prospering. A two week lockdown in a small area is far better than what Japan is doing with a never ending cycle of ineffective SOEs. It’ll go on for years.

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it is sad that some people do not understand just how serious the negative effects of lockdowns and believe that the virus will go away with them. The lockdown measures are unnecessary and ineffective. Australia is virtually virus free and has been for months because of it's summer there while covid is more prevalent in winter when respiratory diseases are most common.

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Monty:

I am curious how many years more will this continue? Until the end of the world???

It will end when the pandemic ends. Or until we achieve control over the pandemic by means of vaccines, or superior medical treatments, or both, which personally I don't think will be long in coming. You, along with several other Japanese resident readers of JT, have been posting these doomsday comments about anti-Covid measures at least since last year, and for some reason you seem to have a particular bee in your bonnet about what we do here in Victoria. None of your fears or your predictions have come to pass. We did beat the last surge in infections, and they remain low. Meanwhile there have been no breakdowns in the democratic process. No riots on the streets. The Australian economy is absolutely booming. For months now people who actually live here have been walking around without masks, because there has been no community transmission of the coronavirus. We like it like this. If now for a couple of weeks we have to wear masks indoors or have only five visitors at a time in our homes, so what? It's a small price to pay.

This is not a lockdown. Reasonable measures like these for a limited time are the first steps to take to beat this disease. As soon as you have a breakout, you institute measures to suppress it. You have to diligently track and trace contacts, and you have to encourage people to get tested by allowing them to test for free. Otherwise, Monty, as you really ought to know living in Japan, you leave a permanent reservoir of infection within your community which can break out at any time and lead to serious strain on your medical systems, States of Emergency, lockdowns and more deaths. Think about it.

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it is sad that some people do not understand just how serious the negative effects of lockdowns

eh? The lockdowns have been wildly supported in Australia, the economy has bounced back faster than nearly the entire world, they've had an almost non-existent death rate, and suicide was down during the pandemic over other years. It's sad that you have no idea what you're talking about, ironically while trying to claim others are sad for "not understanding".

and believe that the virus will go away with them.

Literally (not figuratively, literally) no one said that ever. Not a single person.

Well, except for those like you spouting rhetoric.

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@Monty

I am curious how many years more will this continue?

Until the end of the world???

Man if you had a choice where would you want to be now.....know where I want to be...somewhere where the government considers everyone's lives as important...and guess what that definitely not here now is it...

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WilliB:

All that this ridiculous whack-a-mole overreaction by Australian bureaucrats does is destroy the economy and peoples lifes. Instead of a sensible risk management, we see authoritarian overreach. So sad.

Even with the far more serious restrictions which have been imposed in the past, there has been no destruction of the Australian economy. The Australian economy is booming. If a ten-day injunction for people to resume wearing masks (indoors only), a limit on outdoor gatherings to 30, and a five-person guest limit in people's homes does not qualify as "sensible risk management" then I'd hate to hear your version of it.

And finally, the most tedious "whack-a-mole" game going on here is having to respond to ill-informed and exaggerated criticisms of approaches which have been shown to actually work. Or do you prefer Japan's methods of controlling Covid?

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Well said @Big Yen.

Australians fully support the measures taken by state and federal government officials to keep life as normal as possible in our country. A few isolated areas taking precautions to protect the nation is acceptable and even welcomed.

Life "without' covid is much preferable to life "with" covid. That is what Australia is managing to do that other nations seem reluctant to do. Some wonder why Australia bothers, while the majority of Australians wonder why others don't bother.

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@Northernlife

Man if you had a choice where would you want to be now

Exactly where I am!

In Japan!

@Big Yen

It will end when the pandemic ends. Or until we achieve control over the pandemic by means of vaccines, or superior medical treatments

Even you are vaccined, you can get and spread the virus.

The vaccine or medicine will NOT kill the virus.

That means, for many many years more, or maybe forever, you will have Covid cases in Australia.

Especially when you accept travelers again from all over the world.

As long as this virus is not dissapeared from this planet, this Virus will shown up from time to time, but hopefully in a few amount of cases.

And immediately if only 4 or 5 cases shows up, your government will restrict your life.

You think that is OK?

If now for a couple of weeks we have to wear masks indoors or have only five visitors at a time in our homes, so what? It's a small price to pay.

For how many years more do you agree with your government to pay that price?

I would agree with you if your cases are increasing like crazy, but not for just 5 cases.

For the next many many years , always a few cases will show up. Because nothing kills the virus.

Or let me say, not yet!

I would not agree with my governement if they restrict my life for just 5 cases.

But you said, "We like it like it is". So for the Australien citizens, they seem to be fine with that.

But let us see, what the future will bring.

If the vaccine is rolled out everywhere, and the death rates are going down a lot, then probably your government will change its approach.

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And immediately if only 4 or 5 cases shows up, your government will restrict your life.

You think that is OK?

It is more than just ok. We demand it!

For how many years more do you agree with your government to pay that price?

For as long as is required in order to keep life normal and covid under control.

I would agree with you if your cases are increasing like crazy, but not for just 5 cases.

These small precautions are to control 4 or 5 cases. We waited once before until we had it "increasing like crazy" and it took over 110 days of one of the strictest lockdowns to defeat it. We do not want to go through that again so these "pauses" in target areas to allow contact tracing to be effective is much preferred.

For the next many many years , always a few cases will show up. Because nothing kills the virus.

Perhaps that may be so and if it is then we will continue to control covid rather than allow covid to control us. Herd immunity may happen with new vaccines or with enough people vaccinated with current available options which may not eliminate people becoming infected but it reduces the numbers getting infected and it so far has stopped those vaccinated from dying from covid or even being hospitalized by covid.

If the vaccine is rolled out everywhere, and the death rates are going down a lot, then probably your government will change its approach.

The government follows advise from medical experts and if it is safe to do so it alters its response appropriately.

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@ Monty.

Thank you for your reply, but please note. I did not say we will "kill" the virus. I said we could achieve "control" over the virus. Once we get to the point that we have effective controls for it, i.e. vaccines and other medical treatments, this kind of response will not be necessary. But as the example of so many countries the world over should show you, including the example of Japan, if you fail to take even these modest measures then the virus will spread and will not be manageable. We are not yet at the point where we can control the virus without measures like these, although I believe we will be within the next 12 months IF there are no really nasty mutations and IF the majority of the world's countries get their act together on vaccines and control.

As you see, there were only five cases when this was reported this morning. Now there are nine. We don't want there to be hundreds of cases daily, which is what this short sharp action hopes to prevent. I've read your posts on the situation in Japan. If I remember rightly, you say, quite correctly, that if everyone were to do what you believe is the right thing - social distancing, being careful, masks in public places - then the situation will be OK. But it isn't, is it? People do the wrong thing, they get complacent, they get careless - and if you have that underlying pool of Covid infection ready to take advantage of all that, then you get a problem such as you have in Japan right now.

If the vaccine is rolled out everywhere, and the death rates are going down a lot, then probably your government will change its approach.

Exactly. I'm getting my first shot next week.

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@ BigYen & Peter14

Thank you! I’m Australian - and a Melburnian - but I live in Japan.

Australians think differently to those in the US about these matters.

People from the US can’t understand how Australians accept - or even welcome - these measures because those from the US seem to believe Australians are ‘just like us’.

But we aren’t. We think differently.

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China's CCP releasing variants to the Countries most critical of it.

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Australians are very similar to a large section of Americans who are hesitant about getting vaccines.

Come on Aussie people--you are smart.

Unless you want to remain an isolated island, which might not be a bad thing, get your vaccines.

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Monty

It will end when the pandemic ends. Or until we achieve control over the pandemic by means of vaccines, or superior medical treatments

Even you are vaccined, you can get and spread the virus.

The vaccine or medicine will NOT kill the virus.

That means, for many many years more, or maybe forever, you will have Covid cases in Australia.

Incorrect. After you have been vaccinated, you don't spread the virus. Hence when over 70% of people are vaccinated, herd immunity will set in and it will be like outbreaks of Measles: rare and easily quashed.

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The lockdown measures are unnecessary and ineffective. Australia is virtually virus free and has been for months because of it's summer there while covid is more prevalent in winter when respiratory diseases are most common. - Wobot

Let me fix this for you. I live in Queensland. No deaths here from covid for well over a here and 3 in total. Why? Because of lockdown measures. Necessary and effective. No lockdowns and we would have been like Britain. Check a map please we are in the southern hemisphere. It is the peak of winter right now.

At a rough estimate I would say that 99% of Australians are supportive of how their state governments are handling this pandemic. Everyone safe and well. Concerts and sporting events full of people. Economy booming. What is not to like?

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My concern is that Australians will become complacent about vaccinations. Because there has not been major cases of Covid in Australia since last year, I think people have been lulled into a false sense of security. There are some sho believe that, with borders closed, things are fine and that inoculation is unnecessary. This is ignoring reality and I would like everyone there to be vaccinated.

I do stand by what I wrote earlier about Australians thinking differently to their US counterparts. Australians are more accepting of government mandates, and are less inclined to kick up a fuss when asked to do something. That’s a very different attitude to what exists in the US, and that’s why I wrote that people in Australia think differently to those in the US. Yes, there are people who don’t agree with the government policies, but they are not in the same numbers as those in the US. In short, Australians have different attitudes to those in the US.

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people in Australia think differently to those in the US. Yes, there are people who don’t agree with the government policies, but they are not in the same numbers as those in the US. In short, Australians have different attitudes to those in the US.

I've lived in both countries, and this is very true. Even the right-wing Aussies are not the same as right-wing Americans. Right-wing Aussies have a much higher sense of dedication to their country, with a willingness to sacrifice for it, than right-wing Americans do. Of course there are individual exceptions, like the Aussie nut who went to NZ and shot up a bunch of people in a mosque. But exceptions don't prove any rule.

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