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Australians reject Indigenous referendum in setback for reconciliation

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By Praveen Menon, Lewis Jackson and Wayne Cole

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The correct decision, being inclusive means treating everyone equally, and yesterday the Australian people voted for equality and against separatism.

As for the referendum itself, what an incredible waste of time and money littered with red flags. 

When a Government can't clearly and concisely explain in detail what you're voting for and say "we'll explain everything after you vote Yes" = red flag.

When every other TV commercial is a virtue-signalling celebrity or CEO of a large corporation telling you how to vote = red flag.

When the Yes campaign resorts to calling those with legitimate questions about the proposal stupid and racist = red flag.

When you actually have the open and unapologetic actual racist Noel Pearson behind your campaign = red flag.

When the rallies for the YES campaign have people handing out Communist and Marxist literature = red flag.

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And the biggest red flag of them all? Take a look at the list of these Australia-based FOREIGN-owned corporations promoting the Yes campaign (and pouring millions into it):

ANZ (Major shareholders: Blackrock, Vanguard Group)

CBA (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

NAB (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

WestPac (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

Coles (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

Woolworths (Major shareholders: Vanguard, Blackrock)

Telstra (Major shareholder: Blackrock)

QANTAS (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

Rio Tinto (Major shareholders: Chinese state-owned mining company Chinalco, Vanguard)

TransUrban (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

Woodside Energy (Major shareholders: Vanguard, Blackrock)

Atlassian Group (Major shareholder: Vanguard)

Red flags, red flags everywhere.

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That's said - the non-inclusion of the indigenous people of the land will continue. It was a democratic decision though, and must be accepted. But if I were an indigenous Aussie, this would keep me feeling a lot of alienation towards the colonizers of my land.

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The results/data.....

Voice Referendum Live Results and Updates

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/referendum/2023/results?filter=all&sort=az&state=all&party=all

Vote - Melbourne 5.078 million (2019) yes 78.0% , Sydney - 5,297,089 (2022)  - North Sydney yes 59.6% Sydney yes 71.0%.....

The Yes campaign assertion the vote as unifying, actually revealed the political divisions inherent within society leading to bittier acrimonious debate, race baiting,

The dishonesty of the Yes campaign was highlighted when the campaign director, Dean Parkin had the effrontery to verberate the No campaign as “what has been the single largest misinformation campaign that this country has ever seen”.

Campaign director, Dean Parkin is totally responsible for the dysfunctional, divisive referendum that sowed the seeds of a failure to explain what people were actually voting for.

The refusal to state what "body" of the voice would consist of, or who would be appointed. even what process would be in place to choose the appointees?

What powers will the Voice have, and how this would affect the constitution?

All missing.

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Amateurish and perhaps designed to fail. They could have implemented the core concepts on the basis of their mandate without any fuss, without dividing their country and without spending a tonne of money on it. They learned nothing from their own history of referendums or from Brexit. The lack of competency and talent in politics is scarey, globally. No wonder the planet is a mess and declining.

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That's said - the non-inclusion of the indigenous people of the land will continue.

Indigenous Aussies are actually over-represented based on population in the national parliament, with 11 members. They already have a voice.

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Marcia Langton, noted Aboriginal academic, puts it best:

“It’s very clear that reconciliation is dead. A majority of Australians have said no to an invitation from Indigenous Australia, with a minimal proposition, to give us a bare say in matters that affect our lives, advice that doesn’t need to be taken by the parliament.”

There you go, that's the outrageous request they were making. Understand now? Scandalous, isn't it.

A misinformation campaign that spread through social media also sparked fear that the Voice - a purely advisory body - would become a third chamber of parliament, resulting in more federal aid to Aboriginal people, and more disputes between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people.

Fear and lies were always going to win the day. Many Australians are, sad to say, not too bright. (Communist this, Marxist that...give us a break!) On top of that, a significant minority are flat out racist.

A day of national shame. End of story.

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People can buy the actual Constitution online for a small amount.

No. Australian citizens are not specifically mentioned. The document is basically an agreement by all the states at the time to come together and divide up the various rights and duties of each state and the new Federation.

Eg...taxation and defence and foreign affairs go to the Federal Parliament, law and order matters remain {mostly } a state based issue.

The Australian Constitution needed to be passed and ratified by the British Parliament to come into effect.

No good harping on about "all Australians should be considered equal " when Indigenous Australians are clearly not by any measure in life expectancy, education, employment etc....and some outback pubs have been caught out refusing Aborigines service.

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Jacinta Nampijinpa Price responds to 'No' vote | 7 News Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZUWUJNzQjw

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price offers a future that will genuinely provide indigenous Australians a forthright sincere voice without political agendas interference.

This referendum in every respect was not a rejection but a reflection on the necessary polices/legislation to right historic inequities, grievances.

Marcia Langton, noted Aboriginal academic should take a deep breath and be part of this future instead of waving her fist booing from the gallery.

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A misinformation campaign that spread through social media also sparked fear that the Voice - a purely advisory body - would become a third chamber of parliament, resulting in more federal aid to Aboriginal people, and more disputes between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people.

Ok. If the the voice would be just a "purely advisory body" then what is stopping the government from just creating an Advisory body?

As far as I understand nothing is stopping the government from creating an Advisory board/body and no constitutional change is needed for this!

The government has dozens of advisory boards from everything from the environment to international relations.

I may not be up in politics especially in Australia but I have never heard of incorporating and "advisory board/body" into a constitution that would have no powers!

If the advisory body actually had no powers such as a veto, a final say, etc...then adding it to the constitution would make no difference than if it was just like other advisory boards with only the power to make recommendations and give advice on their relative sectors.

I haven't followed this event much but I get suspicious when they say "oh it is just an advisory body with no powers, trust us" " but we need it incorporated in the constitution" .

Again "advisory board/bodies" that have no legislative powers and are there to give advice are not included in a constitution, something is missing in all this!

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Fear and lies were always going to win the day. Many Australians are, sad to say, not too bright. (Communist this, Marxist that...give us a break!) On top of that, a significant minority are flat out racist.

A day of national shame. End of story.

Incredibly naive read of reality.

How does that explain why the seats with the greatest indigenous voters in Aus - Lingiari, Leichardt, Kennedy, Durack - some with almost half the voters being indigenous - voting overwhelmingly NO? Are these indigenous voters "racist"?

Are the leaders of the NO campaign - indigenous Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and indigenous Mr Mundine - "racist"?

Perhaps they realised the Voice was not going to help the lives of Aboriginal people - and was a huge waste of money.

As Ms Nampijinpa Price stated - the vote was nothing to do with racism and everything to do with a flawed proposal.

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The title is incredibly biased towards 'Yes'. I stopped reading right there.

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Many Australians are, sad to say, not too bright. (Communist this, Marxist that...give us a break!) On top of that, a significant minority are flat out racist.

Woke = putting on a pair of problem glasses each morning and finding issues where there are none. Defending people that do not need it, and certainly didn't ask you for it. What does woke look like? Find a mirror, and take a good, hard look into it.

A day of national shame. End of story.

Maybe for a minority of inner-city elites, but for the rest of us, it's a day to appreciate that we're above racial division, and to celebrate Australia as one of the best countries in the world, where EVERYONE gets a fair go, regardless of the colour of one's skin.

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The title is incredibly biased towards 'Yes'. I stopped reading right there.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/japan-today/

“LEFT-CENTER BIAS

This media source has a moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources... may require further investigation.”

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No good harping on about "all Australians should be considered equal " when Indigenous Australians are clearly not by any measure in life expectancy, education, employment etc..

Yes, let's brush aside this failed attempt at virtue-signalling and address the real problems indigenous communities are facing.

Where is the $4.5 billion designated annually to indigenous communities going? Why is less than 10% of that 4.5 billion getting to those in need? Why have the 3,728 indigenous NGO's/NPO's not made any difference? Did they really think that 25 appointed "Voice" representatives living in Canberra were going to do anything different than the countless individuals and organisations that came before them?

We didn't need a referendum, we need an audit.

Well done Australia. Despite the woke, Establishment Left trying to convince you otherwise, Australians aren't racist. We realise we must help those in need, not enshrine need according to the colour of someone's skin. THAT would be truly racist.

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A resounding NO.

Indigenous Aussies are actually over-represented based on population in the national parliament, with 11 members. They already have a voice.

Worth the replay.

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Guess the majority of the white settler population don't think it is time to say fair's fair, to pay the rent, to pay their share.

For shame.

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it is time to say fair's fair, to pay the rent, to pay their share.

Quoting far-left Midnight Oil now?

Interesting.

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Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and her fellow conservative cohorts prefer inquiries and parliamentary committees, filled with handpicked members that line their own pockets, give juicy contracts to friends and family and leave little for the actual communities.

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What indigenous voters voted "NO"? Where is the proof of that?

You haven't yet checked the voting patterns of the most indigenous seats? I'd advise you to do so. Start with Lingiari, Leichardt, Kennedy, Durack  They ALL voted NO. Including the NT with by far the highest concentration of indigenous Aussies.

Where is your proof that indigenous Aussies wanted and voted for the Voice? Just a hunch?

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