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Australia, a nation thousands of kilometers from any part of China with a much smaller navy somehow feels the need to engage with the Chinese on mil to mil discussions.

Pray tell, are Chinese vessels sailing through the Torres Strait or Bass Strait?

There's a very simple solution, really.

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Dialogue with China will not work.

A totalitarian nation that does not respect international law and simply wants to oppress people and steal things will not listen to reason. It will simply lie and break all its promises, as we've seen over decades.

Economic and military strength, and decoupling is the way to deal with China.

deanzaZZRToday 03:03 pm JST

There's a very simple solution, really.

And that solution is that China should respect international law. But it won't, as it is a totalitarian menace.

This week's incident was just the latest in a long line of Chinese aggression.

https://japantoday.com/category/world/chinese-sailors-wield-sticks-axe-in-disputed-sea-clash-with-philippines

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Exactly. Keep your oar in your own body of water. Discussion over.

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Jinping doesn't even have control over his military. There are limits to what phony dialog can achieve.

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JJEToday 03:22 pm JST

Exactly. Keep your oar in your own body of water. Discussion over.

So China not in the Second Thomas Shoal. Got it.

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JJEToday 03:22 pm JST

Exactly. Keep your oar in your own body of water.

Exactly. China should, but it doesn't.

Nice to see you agreeing with me for a change.

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Pukey2Today 03:45 pm JST

Yes, just like US vessels going through the Taiwan Strait which is right off the Chinese coast. Oh wait, they've done that already. Or like US military jets with CNN reporters showing how much of a victim they are flying off the coast of China. Oh wait, they've also done that.

Threaten an ally of the US and you will get freedom of navigation exercises.

Taiwan:

Jinping doesn't even have control over his military.

He doesn't have control of his military? Not much of a dictator then, is he? So Xi doesn't have control of his military. I'd be more concerned about Biden not having control of his faculties.

No, brainwashed simpletons who couldn't cut it in the regular party are not good to have freelancing.

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Canberra surely well understands four countries contest various areas of the SCS, including Taiwan, whose claim overlaps with China.

They need to be more nuanced and turn down the temperature with all the dishonest rhetoric parroted against their largest trading partner. A little more independence in foreign policy wouldn't hurt either.

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JJEToday 03:59 pm JST

Canberra surely well understands four countries contest various areas of the SCS, including Taiwan, whose claim overlaps with China.

Still China's warmongering.

They need to be more nuanced and turn down the temperature with all the dishonest rhetoric parroted against their largest trading partner. A little more independence in foreign policy wouldn't hurt either.

Australia controls the resources. Sounds like they don't need to do anything at the behest of Peking.

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taiwan:

USA recognizes the One China Policy. As such, they see Taiwan and the Mainland as one. Go look at their government website. In fact, tell me one significant country that doesn't recognize this. You can mention a tiny Pacific island country if you want. I'll give you that. As such, USA is meddling in the internal affairs of another country, as they've done with so many other countries.

But, as I keep saying, time is on the side of the Global Majority. Western governments can continue with their usual divide and conquer tactics. USA did that with Slavic brothers, Muslim brothers, Latin American brothers and UK royal brothers, but it's not going to succeed with Chinese brothers.

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China has an incredible trove of resources with their neighbor to the north. A hypothetical future naval blockade of trade routes by the USN and their accomplices will be far, far, far less effective, if not futile. Wonder if Canberra has grasped this basic realignment yet.

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Pukey2Today 04:08 pm JST

taiwan:

USA recognizes the One China Policy. As such, they see Taiwan and the Mainland as one. Go look at their government website. In fact, tell me one significant country that doesn't recognize this. You can mention a tiny Pacific island country if you want. I'll give you that. As such, USA is meddling in the internal affairs of another country, as they've done with so many other countries.

Somebody is energized tonight! Everyone knows the One China Policy is just something signed to appease Peking and nobody really likes that monstrosity.

But, as I keep saying, time is on the side of the Global Majority. Western governments can continue with their usual divide and conquer tactics. USA did that with Slavic brothers, Muslim brothers, Latin American brothers and UK royal brothers,

What are you going on about? Those areas are as divided as ever.

but it's not going to succeed with Chinese brothers.

Your brother hates your guts and has a 180 km moat protecting him.

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JJEToday 04:12 pm JST

China has an incredible trove of resources with their neighbor to the north. A hypothetical future naval blockade of trade routes by the USN and their accomplices will be far, far, far less effective, if not futile. Wonder if Canberra has grasped this basic realignment yet.

I hope Russia's factories can also absorb all of the product China produces because the people sure can't.

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There was a YouTube video of two Australian brothers who bought an island off the coast of Papua New Guinea.

When they visited their own island, they found that Chinese developers illegally dredged a deep water trench to build a massive port.

In their video it shows them being forced out of their own land at gunpoint by an armed guard at a fenced-off construction site.

The PNG government refuses to address the issue despite multiple pleas from the owners, and the Chinese government refuses to acknowledge anything is even happening.

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Sounds like a newsworthy story. The Australian media must have been all over it because recently they never miss a chance for some China-bashing.

Look forward to a link because it is hard to locate such a story.

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China has an incredible trove of resources with their neighbor to the north. A hypothetical future naval blockade of trade routes by the USN and their accomplices will be far, far, far less effective, if not futile. Wonder if Canberra has grasped this basic realignment yet.

With Putin's capitulation, Xi has subjugated Russia and turned it into a vassal state to exploit and manipulate...

What oil and other resources Russia sells to China will be at rock bottom prices as Xi knows sanctions prevent it from being sold anywhere else...

Given Prigozhin's attempted coup and the current rout of the military leadership, Xi knows Putin in weak and soon to be on his way out...

Xi will then send his Army into Russian Manchuria to re-take the provinces they fought a war over in 1969...and which he believes are as part of China as Taiwan...

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Pukey2Today 04:08 pm JST

USA recognizes the One China Policy. As such, they see Taiwan and the Mainland as one.

No, they don't see them as one. You are regurgitating the CCP propaganda line.

https://www.us-taiwan.org/resources/faq-the-united-states-one-china-policy-is-not-the-same-as-the-prc-one-china-principle/

But, as I keep saying, time is on the side of the Global Majority.

And the global majority wants rule of law, human rights, and political representation. In time, the CCP will fall just like all other dictatorships.

JJEToday 04:12 pm JST

China has an incredible trove of resources with their neighbor to the north. A hypothetical future naval blockade of trade routes by the USN and their accomplices will be far, far, far less effective, if not futile.

Then I hope you enjoy trading that "incredible trove" only between China and Russia, plus a few tinpot dictatorships.

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China has an incredible trove of resources with their neighbor to the north. A hypothetical future naval blockade of trade routes by the USN and their accomplices will be far, far, far less effective, if not futile. Wonder if Canberra has grasped this basic realignment yet.

Some people do not seem to understand China gets well over half of its iron ore from Australia, because it cant get it from anyone else. So a western blockade will include halting every resouce China gets from its main resource supplier, Australia. The list is long and varied and without them Chinese manufacturing and construction output will be severly curtailed.

Australia has made this request to show its willingness to try to have a better relationship with China, even though China is not to be trusted.

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Prudent

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Exactly. Keep your oar in your own body of water. Discussion over.

International Waters are our own body of water, but don’t fret, they are yours too.

Now if you want to redefine International Waters, you can try, but I think most of the world is pretty happy with the current definition.

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