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Australian COVID vaccine dropped over false positive HIV result

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used a small amount of HIV protein as a "molecular clamp"

What??? What the hell...

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MontyToday  02:21 pm JST

used a small amount of HIV protein as a "molecular clamp"

What??? What the hell...

exactly!!!. sounds fishy!!!! do not touch those pseudo-vaccines. Only hell knows what is inside.

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@monty

spot on mate.

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I believe lots of trace particles of the polio as well as other vaccines are used to trigger proper immune responses. People are afraid of the HIV letters. I would suspect the same with Ebola if that was used as well.

The vaccines do not kill the invaders, they trigger the body to respond to the invaders in a more efficient and powerful way even before being invaded.

-2 ( +10 / -12 )

I am a pro vaxer, but I dont want any HIV stuff in my body!

0 ( +16 / -16 )

The tip of the iceberg. If you are rushing to get any of these vaccines you are a fool.

-2 ( +17 / -19 )

obviously innocous but you cant have people testing positive all around only to be a false diagnostic.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

I am glad that the Australian Government had decisively axed Australian COVID vaccine candidate to ensure the health of Australian people is not compromised with national pride.

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

I think I’ll pass on any vaccines made in Australia

5 ( +13 / -8 )

That's too bad. A lot of hard work down the drain. I don't understand the lingo either, but I don't automatically jump to the conclusion something is pseudo medicine. These days most medical terms are over my head.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

So you get a little HIV to get away from covid............................who ever is writing this damn sci fi drama is insane...................

-2 ( +13 / -15 )

I will be behind Monty in line to get my vaccine.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

So you say your only objection to a vaccine is that you want the vaccines tested to make sure they're safe, but when one is found to have a problem and is DROPPED, you still want to keep waxing hysterical. The article ought to be seen as a demonstration that the testing and approval system works, not that it's flawed.

There are people posting here who've spent most of the year arguing that a pandemic which has killed more than 1.5 million people and counting is nothing to worry about, exaggerated, no risk. But when a potential vaccine shows a fault which isn't even a lethal one in trials and is accordingly DROPPED, they think the sky is falling in.

Hilarious, but not really.

4 ( +18 / -14 )

As much as we all want to see an end to this covid19 problem injecting the public with hastily developed vaccines is insane.

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@Reckless

For THIS vaccine please go first

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

@Reckless

I think BigYen should go first

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

I wonder in Qantas will now backtrack on their lofty goals of forcing people to get vaccinated before they fly international with them?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/11/24/qantas-becomes-first-airline-to-require-passengers-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-before-flying-internationally/?sh=1875ee5a3df2

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What a bunch of foolish alarmists who chose to ignore the part of the article that states ‘there was no chance of HIV transmission’. It’s easier for them to carry on like scared children with false claims of HIV in their system.

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@ Monty:

I think BigYen should go first

Oh, not for this one, thanks Monty. I mean the trial has demonstrated to me that there are problems with it, so I think I'll pass.

But the other vaccines which have passed the trial phase and are OK, damn right I'm hoping I can get mine early and then hop over to Japan for my long-delayed next trip, that is whenever Japan gets its situation in hand of course.

What about you, buddy? What is it going to take for you to prove that you actually aren't an anti-vaxxer, as you keep claiming, stop posting alarmist nonsense and line up for your shot?

-8 ( +7 / -15 )

Since I need to travel frequently, I will get my vaccine as soon as it is available. I heard that the Moderna one shows safety and efficacy but do your research.

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@BigYen

I am a pro Vaxer and I want to get vaccinated as soon as possible with a safe and effective vaccine.

But I read so many different news about Covid vaccines from very safe and effective to very scary and not effective.

So far I think this Pfizer thing is the Best.

I need and I want a vaccine to resume my business trips and bring my life back to almost normal.

But the more I read about these vaccines, the more scary I get.

And welcome back to Japan, after you got your vaccine.

I guess if we all got vaccined with a safe and effective stuff, you can have a nice and enjoyable time in Japan.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

there was nothing wrong here only perception, proving Australia's point in spades. Nobody here knows how vaccines even work

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@ Monty

I guess if we all got vaccined with a safe and effective stuff, you can have a nice and enjoyable time in Japan.

A very level-headed and generous post, Monty, and for my part I sincerely hope that your business trips can resume ASAP and that you are successful in every one of them.

In order for those things to happen, I will gladly be an early recipient of Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, Moderna, or Novavax vaccine - whichever one is shown to work and is approved and is the best for me, I will take as soon as I am offered it.

In the meantime I hope that people will adopt a rational approach to articles like this one. As I said in my first post, what this article proves is that the review and testing system is working, not that it's broken.

See you at the airport.

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Agree with BigYen, no need for hysterical over reaction, there was never any danger of contracting HIV from it, stopping it, as there are safe alternatives was the right thing to do on the grounds that they did. Proves the system works.

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my body my choice! I won’t be injecting HIV proteins or aborted fetuses into my body thank you very much.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

FWIW, I'm not jumping up and down angry about this either. A single protein from HIV doesn't equal the virus itself. My understanding of this is limited, but I'm guessing the immune system has recognised a protein from the virus's casing, not the RNA inside that actually does the damage. The scientists have noted the reaction and will have to use something else that doesn't trigger the same response, and that's just part of the process. Lots of errors happen along the path to progress.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

my body my choice! I won’t be injecting HIV proteins or aborted fetuses into my body thank you very much.

Nasty, alarmist, disingenuous bollocks. Shame on you.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

So you don’t want to take the vaccine because you don’t know what’s in it, but you’re happy to eat hotdogs, McDonald’s & KFC

4 ( +4 / -0 )

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