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8 Islamic State orphans to be repatriated to Australia

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Well done to Australia for grasping the bull by the horns.

17-years-old in those conditions is definitely not a child so it is a huge risk. Let us hope these youngsters will not turn around and bite the hand that feeds them, as their olders and 'betters' did.

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17-years-old in those conditions is definitely not a child so it is a huge risk. Let us hope these youngsters will not turn around and bite the hand that feeds them, as their olders and 'betters' did.

2-17. These are still children. No matter what the condition.

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They will definatley need super strict supervision and monitoring for the rest of their lives. Who knows what's been indoctrinated into them

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17-years-old in those conditions is definitely not a child so it is a huge risk.

It is a risk, but the person involved didn’t voluntarily sign up for this sick death squad and deserves a chance. This is unlike the young woman from the UK who fancied a bit of jihad and seemed quite unapologetic about it.

Close care and supervision needed, and let’s hope this person and the others can live decent lives in a civilised country.

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Deadforgood, they were being taught in groups daily by IS to swear allegiance, bomb-making, how use an AK-47 and how to slit non-believers' throats, for example, even at the age of 10 or 11. Just saying.

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they were being taught in groups daily by IS to swear allegiance, bomb-making, how use an AK-47 and how to slit non-believers' throats,

The children did have the power to make decisions when their parents spirited them away to Syria, the fact that others were born there was also out of their control.

They definitely require support and de-radicalization which the government must help in.

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Grandmother Karen Nettleton even travelled to the camp earlier this year to meet them but was rebuffed by authorities,

She eventually found them (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-24/australian-orphans-freed-from-syrian-warzone/11239534. Whole Four Corners here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_LPuUEkSQM ).

They will definatley need super strict supervision and monitoring for the rest of their lives. Who knows what's been indoctrinated into them

Hopefully not for life.

Awesome news. Well done oz govt/grandma & ABC/4corners.

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You talking about Shamima Begum? She was 15 years old when she went off to be a brood mare for Islamic State.

In any other area of her life, people would be saying she was too young to make an informed decision. Yet in this one area, they want her to be guilty for life.

You talking about the adult woman who came back from an ISIS hellhole unfazed by the sight of heads in bins and recognized the reasoning behind blowing up innocent kids at an Ariana Grande concert?

That Shamima Begum?

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Yep, that's the one. Care to address the issue of her age when she went over there?

Okay. She went to join a religious death cult at 15. Obviously not an adult. Then again, 15 is not 5. I did silly things at 15, but it didn’t include joining and staying with a genocidal organization.

Had she come back, then an adult, and shown some contrition for her choice, people may have been more forgiving.

However, she took a different track. She mentioned not being fazed by the sight of severed heads in bins and most chillingly, seemed to see the justification in a jihadi blowing up innocent kids at a Manchester concert when looking to return to the UK.

I see this as different to kids dragged to or born in this butchery.

Do you see the difference here?

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Objections to her seem to revolve around her not responding to certain things - severed heads, the Ariana Grande bombing - in the way that most people would expect her to respond.

Most people? Who wouldn’t expect her to respond with contrition if she wanted to come back to a country where sawing people’s heads off and blowing up kids wasn’t seen as a good thing? A jihadi?

You had no problems with how she responded? An adult who was a member of a genocidal organization seeing the justification in blowing up innocent kids?

You keep harping on the fact that she was underage when joining the group, and as I said, she would have got more sympathy if she’d shown some regret as an adult who’d seen disgusting acts of murder.

Do you see the difference between Begum and kids dragged into this genocidal organization?

That was my original point.

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