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16-year-old boy in deradicalization program shot dead by Australian police after he stabs man in Perth

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Imagine he has access to guns. We're lucky, Japan, or in this case Australia, doesn't consider owning a semi-automatic rifle or machine gun a God-given right.

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justaskingToday  03:05 pm JST

Imagine he has access to guns. We're lucky, Japan, or in this case Australia, doesn't consider owning a semi-automatic rifle or machine gun a God-given right.

The primary problem is the ideology. Without it, the weapon would not even be used in the first place.

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The Christian fundamentalists who killed 2 cops and another man {2022 } had access to firearms and apparently a "problem with their ideology " as well.

Read the article to the end.

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Well done to the police.

Very lucky that no innocent people died - I wish for the full recovery of the stabbed man.

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He sounds like mentally sick. The boy had been participating in a program for young people at risk of radicalization, Blanch added. It doesn’t make any sense for a 16yo registered in a program and attack around for religious reasons. This is mental sickness.

I hope the injured person recovers fully soon.

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Radicalisation can only occur on the basis that you believe your religion is superior and all those not party to it are damned and so deserving of no mercy. But it's only a matter of degree, it seems to me, since religions, by definition, consider themselves superior to others. And, of course, they can't all be right. None are. But, religious conflict tends towards terrible wars of annihilation, despite the absurd claims that love is central to their messages.

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radicalized online

unfortunately a universal problem, there are so many podcasts and blogs, along with an array of other news outlets that survive financially by preying on those with limited reasoning skills, especiall those that are led to believe that some 'others' are in some way enemies. are those succumbing to the radicalization mentally/emotionally ill?

I don't think the problem is just organized religion, it also happens that there are political movements that appeal to and attract many that are mentally/emotionally unsound, and resort to violence of some form as a result. I think those that want a more peaceful planet should study up on what happened in Europe in the 1930's and understand similar things are happening today. Charismatic politicians present dangers similar to charismatic religious leaders. Some supposedly charismatic politicians who are currently fomenting violence are proposing 'detention' centers for certain 'others' expecting the state to resort to thug measures to deal with the problems the pol and his followers claim to see. Both religious leaders and politicians need to ramp down their rhetoric.

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This method of "deradicalization" seems to be foolproof.

Well done Australia!

There is almost zero chance of "de-radicalizing" death cult followers like this scum. It really has never been achieved anywhere. The best thing would be to monitor suspects for life - and lock them up before they commit terror.

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Christian fundamentalists

What does this mean? Three people believed in the fundamentals of Christianity? Every Christian does, which means these three people were not Christians but were heretics since oppression and mayhem are neither religious duties of Christianity nor logical applications of the teachings of Christ.

Australian Christians, Jews, Reformed Muslims, and secularists need to work together for the mental health of youth.

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Who knows how well the police in this situation were trained to respond to react to a mentally ill person threatening them with a knife, but I have been impressed seeing on TV the approches some Japanese police officers use and are trained to deal with a person with a knife.

I'm asking this not knowing about the situation, and feel sorry for the officers that had to resort to killing a young person. That he needed to be stopped seems obvious, I just don't like to see deadly force used on civilians, or in war for that matter. Too bad the 'energy devices' were ineffective.

Whether the male could be de-radialized is another question, but I think at 16 he might still have a chance especially if he could be separated from radical sources, and the radical sources restricted.

Apologies if there are mistakes, my cataracts will be taken out in the near future.

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Three police officers responded, one armed with a gun and two with conducted energy devices

Tasers?

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there are many in Lakemba and surroundings,Australia starts to pay for own mistakes in immigration policies from the past....

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Radicalization is brainwashing. It doesn't require hours of torture, just continuous input to foment a belief. Like the MAGA idiots in my country.

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When Muslims like those in Paris and London vote along ethnoreligious lines, problems like this will only keep getting worse.

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Sounds like two program errors added up fatally. lol

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The problem, or advantage, depending on how you look at it, is that in Islamic societies, the State is the religion. Everyone is answerable to the mullahs. Unlike in the West, where the parallel situation has gradually given way to what we have now, a professional political class that has usurped the prerogatives of the churches. If the secular state is unable to reconcile the tension it has invited into its societies, in the form of large numbers of people who cannot or will not embrace the secular vision, there remains the option of forcible conversion or expulsion.

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anytime you label certain race color religion faith ideology people ethnicity you are asking for trouble.

All faiths Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and more condone violence, but when a society labels people get angry and start behaving as accused.

Even little children when you call them a liar, well guess what ? they will start lying.

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Looks like somebody found out.

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Not a very successful deradicalization program was it?

Prison followed by deportation would be much better.

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there are many in Lakemba and surroundings,Australia starts to pay for own mistakes in immigration policies from the past....

From an ABC Australia online:

The program is] for those that are exhibiting behaviours that might be religious or issues motivated.

"This 16-year-old Caucasian male was part of that program."

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Good, thanks Australia police..

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Not a very successful deradicalization program was it?

Prison followed by deportation would be much better.

It's the best..

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If he had a knife, why was he shot by police instead of just stabbed by police? Doesn't the law require proportionality when dealing with assailants?

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If he had a knife, why was he shot by police instead of just stabbed by police? 

A knife fight between the two? Now that would be fun to watcj

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Not a very successful deradicalization program was it?

What was their success to failure ratio?

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If he had a knife, why was he shot by police instead of just stabbed by police? Doesn't the law require proportionality when dealing with assailants?

No, that is not an accurate representation of police responsibilities or training.

You can find out how it actually works with some googling. Or were you looking to us to educate you?

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Some comments.

Cant deport someone born in Australia, cant deport those given refugee status and cant deport to countries unwilling to accept.

Lakemba is a suburb of Sydney with a multi ethnic composition....not just Muslim.

A 16 year old boy is too young to even know what "ideology " is.

He is the right age to be influenced online by hate groups however.

Police in Australia dont carry knives and tasers had been used to no effect....go the gun.

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Islamic extremist terrorism needs to be eliminated globally.

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Zibala, any ideas for your dream.?

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Multicuturalism enriches the fabric of our societies.

Sure, the death toll is mounting.

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Imagine he has access to guns. We're lucky, Japan, or in this case Australia, doesn't consider owning a semi-automatic rifle or machine gun a God-given right.

Well, it's their laws, they have the absolute right to do what THEY think is necessary involving guns, you follow the law, always. I love and am grateful and feel equally lucky as an American for our 2nd amendment, do as the Romans do in Rome.

Multicuturalism enriches the fabric of our societies.

Sure, the death toll is mounting.

Valid point.

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