Baby, teen mom among 6 killed in shooting at California home

Sadly I have become totally numb to news like this from the US. American's really dont care enough to do anything to stop it.

A baby people, a 6 month old baby!!! American's wake the hell up!

RIP.

Such an incredibly dangerous nation - and will continue to get more dangerous as the years go on - no doubt about that. Just so lucky I and none of my loved ones live in or visit the USA.

What a tragedy, gun violence a risk that can be taken everyday at any town, city, state in the US..

What a dangerous country to live in...

How safe I feel in my Japan..

American's really dont care enough to do anything to stop it.

Specially the conservative medievals and their idolatry for guns, this is a lost war..

How safe I feel in my Japan..

Comparatively speaking I would agree, but you have to keep your head on here too and I doubt the woman who was stabbed to death last night would agree.

Specially the conservative medievals and their idolatry for guns, this is a lost war..

California is one of, if not the most Liberal states in the union with some of the strictest firearm laws

They believe there is a gang connection to the killings

But theUS gun corporations, NRA and Russian companies providing ammo to US gun and ammo merchants are perfectly happy to sell to gang members, and even to those on terrorist watchlists.No wonder Republicans want to defund the FBI, the FBI are trying to reduce damage done by some of the Republican's herd, which includes domestic terrorists.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/why-can-people-on-the-terrorist-watch-list-buy-guns-and-other-faqs

But theUS gun corporations, NRA and Russian companies providing ammo to US gun and ammo merchants are perfectly happy to sell to gang members, and even to those on terrorist watchlists.No wonder Republicans want to defund the FBI, the FBI are trying to reduce damage done by some of the Republican's herd, which includes domestic terrorists.

How is this the fault of Republicans? This happened in California, an extremely liberal state with some of the nation’s stricter gun laws

How can you shot a baby????!!!! This country is doomed in everything.

Even in number one Mexican City of drug I felt safer than the US.

Glad my teenage girl is not dreaming anymore of the US, she realized she was completely blind by media and friends.

How is this the fault of Republicans? This happened in California, an extremely liberal state with some of the nation’s stricter gun laws

Liberals blame everyone except themselves. Don't throw facts at them, it's like putting a Gremlin in water.

How is this the fault of Republicans?

This and

Liberals blame everyone except themselves.

This here, are a HUGE part of why American's dont give a crap about making and real changes. It's always the "liberals" or "conservatives" fault. Both sides point fingers, and both sides yell and scream at each other, and wont give an inch, like little spoiled kids!

People are killing each other indiscriminately, and bullets dont care one bit if you are Republican or Democrat, they are equal opportunity "killers" .

It's not a Republican nor Democrat problem! It's EVERYONE's problem, and until both sides can get over themselves, incidents like this are just "wash-rinse-repeat" and WILL happen again, and again and again.

This tragedy is simply narcotics related. Drug-gang turf war. Has NOTHING to do with politics or political affiliations. These despicable drug dealers and their cohorts openly flaunt any and all laws, and always illegally possess firearms. Yet, they get released on bail because it's unfair to their demographic group to be kept locked away from decent society.

Almost every day in world news there are reports of gun killings in one or more cities in the United States of America. There must be thousands upon thousands upon thousands of toy guns that are manufactured in the U.S. or imported by the U.S.A. And countless American parents buy toy guns for their children to play with from as early as the time they are learning to walk. This is genuine American gun culture.

Year after year after year gun control in the U.S.A. has proved to be a futile exercise. To take a long distance view of this tricky problem, ban the manufacture of toy guns in the U.S.A. and the import of toy guns to the U.S.A.

And so the sick comedy rolls on.

Beyond unbelievable, if the people of the US can’t be bothered to do something about this, the civilised world can only shake its head in sadness and leave them to welter in their bloodbath until common sense breaks through their mass insanity.

(PS to Comment by Stephen Chin)

The NRA (National Rifle Association) can have or find nothing to say about my suggestion that all American toy gun manufacturers and all import of toy guns into the U.S.A. must be banned.

This here, are a HUGE part of why American's dont give a crap about making and real changes. It's always the "liberals" or "conservatives" fault. Both sides point fingers, and both sides yell and scream at each other, and wont give an inch, like little spoiled kids!

People are killing each other indiscriminately, and bullets dont care one bit if you are Republican or Democrat, they are equal opportunity "killers" .

It's not a Republican nor Democrat problem! It's EVERYONE's problem, and until both sides can get over themselves, incidents like this are just "wash-rinse-repeat" and WILL happen again, and again and again.

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the US and yet gun crime is insane there. That means gun control doesn’t work

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the US and yet gun crime is insane there. That means gun control doesn’t work

Even Canada can't keep American guns out, and Canada has a protected border. You can drive into California without crossing any manned border, and bring guns right into it.

Let's not pretend like there is actually gun control in any state in America.

Not if you're in America it doesn't.

Yes, it does. Higher HDI, better universities, etc.

Even Canada can't keep American guns out, and Canada has a protected border.

So you agree that gun control doesn’t work? I accept your concession

Yes, it does. Higher HDI, better universities, etc.

Nope, every Canadian province ranks higher than every American state quality of life, happiness indexes, and safety indexes.

So you agree that gun control doesn’t work?

There isn't any in America to be able to qualify whether it works or not. That said, the numbers north of the border, and in Japan, are proof that gun control is extremely effective, and America is proof that a lack of it results in exponentially more gun deaths.

Gun control works in other countries. Irrefutable.

It won’t work in The US, too late, too broken. Best avoid the place or if you live there get out.

This will always be in the news as long as there are men and women in America who just can't function without a gun. It's just weird how it consumes their lives.

Really disgusted to say this but I am afraid that my beloved America is and has been on the Path of self destruct for quite sometime now, and nothing that could be done to reverse this Madness, it has past the Gun Control issues it is clear now that this is a much worse Syndrome caused by several social, economic, and other issues.

Gun homicide in America is out of control and happens in every single state with too many with few gun laws.

Liberals blame everyone except themselves. Don't throw facts at them, it's like putting a Gremlin in water.

Exactly, they want a one-sided echo chamber debate to the gun issue by looking at only the bad points pertaining to the gun. You’re not allowed to have an alternative point of view on the issue, this os why conservatives see no value or reason to even engage the issue if the left don’t want to listen, it just becomes nothing but garrulous banter.

Gun homicide happens in every single state with too many with too few gun laws.

All politicians in Congress regardless of the political party are fully responsible for the lack of sufficient gun laws which protect the citizens.

The State politicians are equally responsible.

My anecdote is back when I was in an apartment and saw a guy taking a garbage bag to the dumpster with a t-shirt and sweats and....a gun belt.

He couldn't handle the 50-yard walk from his apartment to the dumpster without the ability to instantly kill someone. He was just too afraid of the world.

I'm often reminded of him when I hear gun supporters talk.

That's what we're up against. Plus those who have an interest in guns way beyond a hobbyist. It's a fetish wrapped into the fabric of their personality. They'll ignore a hundred school shootings if it means they can keep their precious guns.

Do you know anyone who open or conceal carries? They're insane. They are constantly talking about using their guns for justifiable homicide. It's sick. They are too terrified to function in a healthy society.

Ever meet an NRA member? They're insane. Their shtick is end of days...society has collapsed and no police is coming so you need to be ready to shoot your fellow Americans in the face.

Ever meet someone who thinks their gun is stopping the US government from tyranny? They're insane. They've convinced themselves that carrying a gun everywhere is a duty to protect themselves from a government that - wait for it - terrifies them.

It's always fear or fetish. They. Do. Not. Care. About. Casualties. They only care about filling some void inside themselves. Lots of people die every year because of the weakness of this group.

Yrral

the streets of America are flooded with guns. But police and military need to be armed and not a problem. Gun homicides are not crimes of passion. They are plain vile violence.

My anecdote is back when I was in an apartment and saw a guy taking a garbage bag to the dumpster with a t-shirt and sweats and....a gun belt.

He couldn't handle the 50-yard walk from his apartment to the dumpster without the ability to instantly kill someone. He was just too afraid of the world.

I was watching Alone, the show where they put people out in the wilderness in Canada to live alone as long as they can. There was an American on the show who in America never left the house without a gun, and he was afraid in Canada to be without it.

It made me think of Linus and his security blanket in Peanuts.

Strangerland: There was an American on the show who in America never left the house without a gun, and he was afraid in Canada to be without it.

It's hard to describe. It's like they think constantly being armed helps them get through society and damn the hundreds of school kids that have to die so they can personally feel safe.

I'm not a gun owner and I live a healthy, functional life without fear. A lot of gun supporters generally do not. They express a form of weakness where they are constantly afraid of being a victim. They're so afraid of everything.

One thing that gets me are the people who carry guns in public but then are fine dropping their kids off at the movie theater. A big, strong guy needs a gun to protect himself but his 13-year old daughter doesn't?

What a man.

This tragedy is simply narcotics related. Drug-gang turf war. Has NOTHING to do with politics or political affiliations.

Which means, of course, it has everything to do with American capitalism and its twisted values strangling the opportunities for millions living in poverty and insecurity to lead a decent life.

No one in my America family owns a gun just like 60% of all people.

‘Illegal guns’? If everyone is protected by the US constitution the right to own a gun, there can be no such thing.

Besides all guns were legally purchased at some point unless someone is stealing them from the production line.

Then irresponsible gun owners illegally sell their guns, leave them unlocked etc. Meanwhile millions more guns are manufactured every year.

Completely broken cycle of lunacy perpetuated by those who profit from the insecure and fear ridden.

We are diverging off-topic, but to Superlib's point, I too remember when crime rates were higher and nobody needed to Rambo-up to go get a quart of milk.

If you saw someone openly carrying, you called the cops because that guy (it's always a guy) was NUTS. NOBODY open-carried.

And this was in gun-loving KS. And I am a 40 year gun owner. And nobody should be carrying outside their own property unless they have a badge.

As to THIS horrific crime, it's clearly a gang hit and likely no gun law would have stopped it.

Gun laws very well might have stopped the Murder-Suicides in Utah and N. Carolina in the last couple of weeks, but we didn't hear much about those because that was white domestic violence.

And bemoaning that is not good for the gun nut's narrative.

According to bass4funk, there are no illegal guns because every American has the absolute right to own one.

Your only defence is parroting an interpretation of a hundreds of year old sentence which actually doesn’t mention anything about the individual right to own a gun at all.

Semantics?

Gun homicide happens in every single state with too many with too few gun laws.

Yes, but in some places more. Go into the most populated urban cities in United States, New York, Detroit, Los Angeles, Oakland, San Francisco, Minneapolis, areas where cops are leaving the force and retiring at an alarming rate.

Mass shooting the other day in Houston.

"Nineteen children and two adults were killed in a shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde County Texas, on May 24, 2022. It is the deadliest shooting ever at a Texas public school."

Just another in America!

Before the ink is dry on the print paper there will be many more shootings.

What is it that americans dont understand about everybody and their dog walking around tooled up with military specification weapons and mass shootings ??? Its bound to happen....Doh !!

When I read about these crazy non-stop american mass shootings, two questions come to mind, 1. When will be the next mass shooting ?. 2. How many will be killed ?.

Gun homicide rates are the highest in red states.

totally lost in the noise is:

They believe there is a gang connection to the killings. The sheriff's office conducted a narcotics-related search warrant at the residence last week, Boudreaux said.

“We also believe this was not a random act of violence. We believe this was a targeted family,” he said.

gangs and drugs are the root cause, not guns.

Gun supporters and military love is a huge part of the American problem with public need to feel secure with the idea of guns being an indispensable item. It's part stupidity, part stubbornness, part brain wash, as American simply has a love affair with guns and bullets, and enable multiple killings, every day.

You'd think they'd disagree with the guns after awhile, but they keep promoting them with every murder. Every gun killing in America is met with guns not being the problem with the same people around here. So dumb.

And btw, those who are arguing California is a liberal state with strict gun laws, if you check the map, everything east of the coastline is very conservative and GOP. Lots of gun usage in mid to eastern California, and as America goes, gun love is a killer.

Yawn, this is no longer news, why even report it.

gangs and drugs are the root cause, not guns.

Guns don't kill Americans, Americans kill Americans.

Americans who have access to a loooooooot of guns.

A week ago, a 6 years old 1st grade student shot his teacher in the classroom. SIX years old brought a loaded gun to school and shot his teacher.

But yeah. Having guns available to anyone with no restrictions whatsoever is such a good thing. After, "it's my right a an Americ..."

Yes. It’s sad that millions of American lives have been ended by suicide, murder and accident and a whole country ruined because of a comma written hundreds of years ago.

There are other factors that have ruined the nation. The guns would be a little bit lower on the denominator, unless you want to make the argument for the lives they have saved as well.

The guns would be a little bit lower on the denominator, unless you want to make the argument for the lives they have saved as well.

If you claim guns don't kill people, then you can't claim guns save people.

Guns don't save people, doctors and nurses save people.

This is a link an ABC News clip covering the news on the teacher shot by the six years old. She didn't die but got a bullet on her chest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9nQ_XFyp8

Guns don't save people,

sure they do. If a criminal is trying to kill me and I shoot him dead, the gun saved my life.

Must be nice to claim your country gun control works because any time it doesnt you can just claim the "gun was from America!!" how convenient.

Guns don't save people,

sure they do.

Then you can't claim guns don't kill people. It's either guns both kill and save people, or they don't kill or save people.

You can have your cake, or you can eat it. Figure out which one you're going with.

Must be nice to claim your country gun control works

Gun control absolutely does NOT work in my country. It's a mess.

It's one of the main reasons I'm so anti-gun.

Guns don't save people,

sure they do. If a criminal is trying to kill me and I shoot him dead, the gun saved my life.

So guns do kill people?

Guns have a single purpose. To kill another.

It's either guns both kill and save people

Have I ever said that guns dont kill people? you are getting so confused today, smoking again?

People (using guns) both kill and save people, of course.

A Gun is just one of many tools that can kill or save people, yes.

In this article, gangs and drugs were the root cause. clearly, and announced by law enforcement.

Have I ever said that guns dont kill people?

Maybe not. But "guns don't kill people" is a common trope of your team. So you can understand why I would think you, as a hyper-partisan who literally ascribes to every position put forth by your team, would also think so. Am I wrong? Do you agree guns kill people?

If you claim guns don't kill people,

I never claimed that, relax.

Guns don't save people,

Tell that to Scalise, Reagan and too many politicians and celebs to count.

doctors and nurses save people.

That as well

Guns have a single purpose. To kill another.

And to save lives. On our farm without guns we wouldn’t have a lot of livestock, so yes, you can make the argument that it saves lives as well.

Do you agree guns kill people?

See what I already said: People (using guns and many other things) kill people.

So I guess if you wanted to be unclear about it, you could say guns are one of the things that kill people, sure.

But they have no ability to act independently of a person using it, so it would be kind of a disingenuous statement at best.

This is America, a place with crimes and danger no lesser than any third world countries.

@Superlib

Yeah, open carry. They first time I went to the states I remember seeing a 300 Ib guy who would probably give himself a hernia reaching for the TV remote waiting in line at Starbucks with a sidearm. Never seen that anywhere else in the world, apart from the DRC.

What kind of pathetic, feeble coward needs to take a gun to a coffee shop ? The world looks at the gun fetish in the US with open disgust.

Either guns DO kill people, meaning anyone intelligent can instantly recognize that reducing the number of guns will reduce the number of people killed, or guns DON'T kill people (aka people kill people), meaning anyone intelligent can instantly recognize that reducing access to the tool people use to kill people will reduce the number of people killed. 

They kill, this is true, but if it is to save my livestock from coyotes and wolves, it’s a good thing, if someone is being robbed, raped or stabbed or I’m being attacked with someone wielding a weapon trying to kill and I kill them if is a good thing. That is the logical, smart, reasonable and rational conclusion, taking out the emotion argument out of the debate.

This is why I am a proud supporter of firearms and the NRA.

They kill, this is true, but if it is to save my livestock from coyotes and wolves, it’s a good thing

I agree. Farmers around the world have guns if needed.

if someone is being robbed, raped or stabbed or I’m being attacked with someone wielding a weapon trying to kill and I kill them if is a good thing

Now you have taken a huge leap of imagination into the statistically redundant. That's your fear talking in your head. Or too many movies.

How many times in your very long life have you just been lucky enough to prevent a serious crime because, oh my saints, you happen to 1. be carrying a gun 2. competent enough to intervene ?

Back to the ‘good guy with a gun’ fallacy. Oh dear.

I agree. Farmers around the world have guns if needed

Thank you.

Now you have taken a huge leap of imagination into the statistically redundant. That's your fear talking in your head. Or too many movies.

No, reality.

How many times in your very long life have you just been lucky enough to prevent a serious crime because, oh my saints, you happen to 1. be carrying a gun 2. competent enough to intervene ?

I have seen it and heard it many times, I have family in law enforcement, so it’s not that uncommon of a thing nationwide as a total.