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Drip. Drip. Drip....

Bannonism may be gone, but the racist, xenophobic, screaming old spoilt-kid-grandpa-brat remains.

But for how much longer?

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He will be missed.

(Ha ha! Not! But camels like this are better to keep inside the tent - further trouble is brewing.)

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I'm praying by fall Mueller will have enough on him that he'll do his usual " I quit first" thing and abdicate.

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I'm praying by fall Mueller will have enough on him that he'll do his usual " I quit first" thing and abdicate.

That's ok and then we will have Pence who's a real deep, religious and hardened conservative who would continue the Trump agenda, so that would be just as good or even better.

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Flynn, Spicer, Priebus, Scaramucci, now Bannon... all gone in the space of seven months. Really fills you with confidence, doesn't it. I don't suppose the usual Trump groupies will be too bothered though. It's looking as if he could actually shoot someone in public like he said, and they'd just keep making increasingly moronic and desperate excuses for him.

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thats one less lunatic in the Trump asylum....

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Get rid of Miller and Gorka next.

I know people are gleeful that Bannon is out. But Bannon was never the real problem. The real problem is Donald J Trump. He's the one who should be resigning.

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Too bad. He was basically responsible for Trump winning the election in the first place.

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bass4funkToday  07:08 am JST

"I'm praying by fall Mueller will have enough on him that he'll do his usual " I quit first" thing and abdicate."

That's ok...

That's ok, is it? Starting to back away from Trump, are you?

....and then we will have Pence who's a real deep, religious and hardened conservative

Those old men running Iran are deep, religious and hardened conservatives. Do you like them too? I mean, you seem to think that the US Republican Party and Irish Republicans are kind of the same thing, so...

who would continue the Trump agenda, so that would be just as good or even better.

Even better? So contrary to everything you've ever proclaimed about hating the Washington establishment, you don't mind it at all when it's run by people you like. We all know precisely how much value to attach to your opinions, then.

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Flynn, Spicer, Priebus, Scaramucci, now Bannon... all gone in the space of seven months.

With the exception of Gen. Flynn, it seems that they were more of an anchor than a help overall, so it might be the best thing for the president.

Really fills you with confidence, doesn't it.

Now it does.

I don't suppose the usual Trump groupies will be too bothered though. It's looking as if he could actually shoot someone in public like he said, and they'd just keep making increasingly moronic and desperate excuses for him.

Didn't the left already do that with Repub. Sen. Scalise?

Get rid of Miller and Gorka next. 

What for? No, he should definitely keep them.

I know people are gleeful that Bannon is out. But Bannon was never the real problem. The real problem is Donald J Trump. He's the one who should be resigning.

I think Pelosi and Waters should be resigning, they've kinda reached the prime level of their careers and should call it quits.

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The White house at the moment looks like a terrible dentist that keeps removing all the teeth with cavities rather than the big rotten one.

But hey bass4funk, I actually almost agree with you, sort of not really, but Trump going leaves someone who might be more politicly savvy but every part as, in my opinion, bad and in some ways worse but might actually get some things done, just they likely will be things most people interested in personal freedom and civil rights for all will be shocked and saddened at.

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Bad move by the President as he's starting to cave to left wing zealots in the media.

Bannon understands better than anyone what is at stake right now. I hope bass is right about Pence.

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Bannon was merely a symptom, Trump is the disease. 

Disavowing Nazis is such a basic thing for a president, 

since he can't -- Trump has got to go ...

Let me know when trump is leaving.

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That's ok, is it? Starting to back away from Trump, are you?

Of course not, I'm not stupid, I am just saying if it were to come to that crucial point, Pence would definitely would put my mind to ease.

Those old men running Iran are deep, religious and hardened conservatives. Do you like them too?

I'm not Iranian, so I could care less what goes on in that country.

I mean, you seem to think that the US Republican Party and Irish Republicans are kind of the same thing, so...

I'm sorry, but what does that have to with the topic? If you must why don't we talk about egg McMuffins, perfect time for that. LOL

Even better? So contrary to everything you've ever proclaimed about hating the Washington establishment, you don't mind it at all when it's run by people you like.

Remember, I'm not a liberal and never liked progressives or their wretched feel good identity, I could care about what you think socialist politics.

We all know precisely how much value to attach to your opinions, then.

The feeling is mutual, homie. LOL

But hey bass4funk, I actually almost agree with you, sort of not really, but Trump going leaves someone who might be more politicly savvy but every part as, in my opinion, bad and in some ways worse but might actually get some things done, just they likely will be things most people interested in personal freedom and civil rights for all will be shocked and saddened at.

There is a famous saying: Be careful what you wish for, I think "IF" it came to the point where that would happen, the smiles on the face of the left would wiped so fast off their faces when they see a very strong Evangelical and a real career politician set forth a Trump agenda 3.0 on steroids and to be honest, some Democrats know this and are frightened by this thought, not everyone on the left are calling for the impeachment of this president like before, many do realize Pence would be even more lethal and radical in executing his agenda. The sad think is the left are so caught up in their primeval emotional outbursts, they don't see that brick wall in front of them should that come to pass.

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clamenzaToday  08:09 am JST

I hope bass is right about Pence.

Is that because you're giving up on Trump?

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pressure mounts? where? economy and sticks and jobs are up, you can not get rid of a President because you do not like him. Unless he breaks a law he can not be made to quit.

Where is this pressure? I do not see it, sounds like crying libs who didn't get their way

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Trump just used Bannon to get elected, but now all those people are gone. We will see what Trump is really about now. Remember, he is a billionaire.

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Is that because you're giving up on Trump?

Hardly. But I do worry about who is in his ear right now.

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@Dango - You have to admit Trump's administration is a mess and his presidency is not going well, to say the least. On the other hand you have hit a key point: All of this talk of getting rid of him is just talk. We now live in a time when American's react emotionally to nearly all issues and seem to have lost the ability to think critically and logically. Short of President Trump resigning there is little that can be done to remove him from office.

I am no fan of Trump (and perhaps we are on opposite sides of that issue) however you make a very good point and those that wish to see him out of office need to stop the useless rhetoric and get on with investigating and putting forth facts which would lead to his subsequent impeachment or resignation.

I remember when Nixon resigned. There was alot of talk about what happened at Watergate but it was nothing like today. The Democratic party spoke calmly without all of the emotional "dog and pony" tactics and methodically brought forth evidence which would have resulted in Nixon being impeached if he did not resign.

My oh my have times changed!

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I do not see it, sounds like crying libs who didn't get their way

Hardly as all of Trump's promises have been broken- no wall, Hillary arrest, etc. Also, where is the complete Muslim shutdown? People who are non-Trump voters live in a world of reality.

But I do worry about who is in his ear right now.

FOX NEWS and INFOWARS so Trump voters need not worry.

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Trump should just fire himself and end his joke of a presidency.He's a pathetic,petty lightweight who has been worse than could have ever been imagined.I wasn't crazy about Obama but after seeing this reality tv nightmare masquerading as a "president" he's looking better.But the chickens are coming home to roost and you know that's a good thing.

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Trump, whose father was in the KKK, has finally got rid of his chief resident racist, and conspiracy guru. Will it be enough to turn Trump into a normal human being? I doubt it.

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Bannon has gone back to Breitbart where he can be more vocal in the fight FOR Trump. I don't think he was forced out. It's a move to try to take pressure off Trump. I'm guessing there is a lot more pressure about to come. I'm hoping it will mean the end of this farcical excuse of a president.

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Remember, he is a billionaire.

Trump's billions are a joke. If you wanted a real billionaire then Bill Gates should have been elected. Trump is not really that rich. Bill Gates just gave away 5 billions dollars. This is 5x what Trump is worth and Bill Gates is still 10s of times richer than Trump.

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the smiles on the face of the left would wiped so fast off their faces when they see a very strong Evangelical and a real career politician set forth a Trump agenda 3.0 on steroids 

I thought you hated establishment politicians. Oh, well.

Pence doesn't support 90% of the crap that comes out of Trump's mouth, but he pretends he does in order to advance his own career and "Christian" agenda. If President Pence doesn't drain the swamp, at least he can perform a miracle and walk across it.

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And Trump was reportedly furious about an interview in which his aide contradicted his own position on North Korea.

Trunp's always furious. His petulance could yet bring the world to war.

The white supremacist is heading back to Breitbart where he can cook up more conspiracy theories and the rest of his sad little theories. Farewell you horrible anti-semite.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/stephen-bannon-5-things-jews-need-to-know/

Problem is now, with Pence poised to become PotUS; the real trouble begins. Think of a Christian Taliban in control; or a theocracy. Of course; some will embrace and claim that it's what they wanted all along (in pantomime villain style laugh) but it will be even scarier times for the US and all who anxiously wait for her recovery from this malady that plagues her.

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I thought you hated establishment politicians. Oh, well.

I do, but if I have to choose between beef and pork, the beef always wins.

Pence doesn't support 90% of the crap that comes out of Trump's mouth,

So now you are the Pence whisperer and know what this man thinks or how he feels?

but he pretends he does in order to advance his own career and "Christian" agenda. If President Pence doesn't drain the swamp, at least he can perform a miracle and walk across it.

...And crush every liberal progressive agenda in the process. Yup, works for me.

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Toasted Heretic - those anti-semitism slurs have long since been debunked as the slurs they were. Bannon's staff at Breitbart was, and is well represented by Jews.

After a little research, it turns out his leaving the WH was agreed upon so that he can continue the good fight in "media, Capital Hill and corporate America".

Godspeed

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Trunp's always furious. His petulance could yet bring the world to war. 

Yeah, give that one a rest, that lie didn't work for the left. But yeah, as crazy as CNN is and the rest of the MSM distorting and twisting every word I say, yeah, I'd be a little bit annoyed myself.

The white supremacist is heading back to Breitbart where he can cook up more conspiracy theories and the rest of his sad little theories. Farewell you horrible anti-semite.

Can you prove he's a White Supremacist? Solid proof and leave the liberal emotion behind.

Problem is now, with Pence poised to become PotUS; the real trouble begins.

We are Nowhere even close to that, but if you must...But yeah, the real deep nightmare (my dream) for the left will begin.

  • Think of a Christian Taliban in control; or a theocracy. Of course; some will embrace and claim that it's what they wanted all along (in pantomime villain style laugh) but it will be even scarier times for the US and all who anxiously wait for her recovery from this malady that plagues her.*

So the Christians will be like the anarchist socialist fascists that tear down statues like ISIS and are ready and willing to use violence and intimidation to pummel anyone that doesn't adhere to that progressive and depressive tactics.

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A slippy, character. Make no mistake.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-jewish-antisemitism-bannon-huppke-20170224-story.html

So, which hater will be out next?

Who will be the fall guy for the racist in chief?

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So the Christians will be like the anarchist socialist fascists that tear down statues like ISIS and are ready and willing to use violence and intimidation to pummel anyone that doesn't adhere to that progressive and depressive tactics.

This is what the far right think of ordinary people who stand up to nazis, anti-semites and racists.

The demonisation will continue, of course. It always does when the far right feel threatened.

They did it in the early days of Civil Rights and they continue to do it now.

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bass4funk: Of course not, I'm not stupid, I am just saying if it were to come to that crucial point, Pence would definitely would put my mind to ease.

Of course he would. He's an establishment Republican. You love them.

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So, which hater will be out next?

Who will be the fall guy for the racist in chief?

The are so petty in believing left smear tactics, Kudos.

This is what the far right think of ordinary people who stand up to nazis, anti-semites and racists. 

You forgot commie, socialist and fascists, complete silence on that one.

The demonisation will continue, of course. It always does when the far right feel threatened.

Unlike the left did last November? ROFL

They did it in the early days of Civil Rights and they continue to do it now.

Civil Rights that Democrats refused to work to secure the rights of Blacks.

He's an establishment Republican.

The funny thing about that statement is, I'm not even a Republican. LOL

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Draining the swamp. All that's left is the scum that was floating at the top - get rid of Trump and Pence. While Pence won't go all gung-ho when it comes to international affairs, he'll be a disaster in the most bigoted way when it comes to domestic affairs.

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bass4funk: The funny thing about that statement is, I'm not even a Republican. LOL

But for Mike Pence, an establishment Republican, you'll fall in line with their caucus.

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The funny thing about that statement is, I'm not even a Republican. LOL

I know; right? Heck, old chap; I'm not even a leftist.

Unfortunately for the working class - black and white (and other) - they will be the one's who will not see any changes.

Breitbart and the next wave of Bannons can keep fanning the flames but meanwhile the ignored and marginalised will continue to be trampled over as they have always been. Some people are starting to see who the real enemy is - and it's not white folk, it's not black folk. It's the elite, the billionaires, the corporations, the rich who get tax breaks, the bankers who were bailed out and still got bonuses for their greed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/redneck-revolt-guns-anti-racism-fascism-far-left

On a nearby table hung a black banner that bore the words “Redneck Revolt: anti-racist, pro-gun, pro-labor”.

“If you haven’t noticed, we aren’t liberals,” said Jeremy Beck, one of Neely’s cookout friends. “You know, if you keep going further left, eventually, you go left enough to get your guns back.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/secessionist-black-nationalist-pledge-peaceful-dialogue-charlotteville/

This it what the rich who perpetuate division and racism fear the most - working class people of all colors and creeds rising up against them. They've been stoking the flames of division for decades with the narrative of fear against the organisation of said working class.

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Pence who's a real deep, religious and hardened conservative who would continue the Trump agenda, so that would be just as good or even better.

Pence would definitely would put my mind to ease.

a real career politician set forth a Trump agenda 3.0 on steroids

and then . . .

I do [hate establishment politicians], but if I have to choose between beef and pork, the beef always wins.

I'm not even a Republican. LOL

Your argument is falling apart faster than Trump's White House.

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Channeling Charlie Brooker, I'd say that that picture of Bannon looks like a sad clown puppet, fashioned from an old tramp's wanksock.

Right, and before any trump fans come back with bleats of 'Ad hominem', I'd say that the monkey & banana references during Obama's presidency were a lot worse.

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Bannon's return to sheet stirring Breitbart will no doubt see ever more desperate attempts to smear the good people who can see through his divisive tactics.

But that is the far right. For example;

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/photo-antifa-man-assaulting-officer-doctored-analysis-shows/

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Even the Trump supporters here are sounding a bit deflated.

Their hatred of the establishment is now evaporating before our eyes.

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Bannon understands better than anyone what is at stake right now. I hope bass is right about Pence. almost anyone would be an improvement on Trump, while Pence may try to keep Trumps agenda going hell soon realize a compromise will be needed, and at least he can string a sentence together that doesn't babble and is understandable.

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at least he can string a sentence together that doesn't babble and is understandable.

Oh; I'll give him that. Pity about his beliefs concerning women and LGBT people.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-radical-crusade-of-mike-pence-w462223

Mike Pence had once paid his mortgage with campaign funds, dragged his feet during an HIV epidemic and a lead-poisoning outbreak, signed an anti-gay-rights bill that nearly cost Indiana millions of dollars, lost his mind on national TV with George Stephanopoulos, and turned away Syrian refugees in an unconstitutional ploy laughed out of federal court

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Forget Pence, I hope bass is right about his own past work history with mainstream US media companies, his brother in the FBI, his liberal relatives, and other floor rolling fodder.

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But for Mike Pence, an establishment Republican, you'll fall in line with their caucus.

Not fall in line, I'm not a politician, I'm just a conservative voter.

Your argument is falling apart faster than Trump's White House.

Not an argument, im telling you a fact.

Unfortunately for the working class - black and white (and other) - they will be the one's who will not see any changes.

As long as the Left oppose this president, they won't as much, but still the stock market is looking good and I'm happy with my portfolio.

Breitbart and the next wave of Bannons can keep fanning the flames but meanwhile the ignored and marginalised will continue to be trampled over as they have always been.

The Democrats have NO room to talk, they had 8 years to get the private sector up and going and didn't do squat to help rebuild it, quite the opposite.

Some people are starting to see who the real enemy is - and it's not white folk, it's not black folk. It's the elite, the billionaires, the corporations, the rich who get tax breaks, the bankers who were bailed out and still got bonuses for their greed.

All I can to that is, run from California as fast as you can! Feet don't fail me now.

This it what the rich who perpetuate division and racism fear the most - working class people of all colors and creeds rising up against them. They've been stoking the flames of division for decades with the narrative of fear against the organisation of said working class.

Give me a break! Over the last 8 years the left and Democrats played the race card hard and heavy and even now, they STILL didn't learn their lesson. And once again they are still at it. Yes, the people do see through this, let me know when the Democrats start winning elections again.

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@Bass

So, do you still hate the Washington establishment? Is it like hating the MSM while defending Fox?

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No problem whatsoever and Trump not going anywhere. Bannin asked to resign 2 weeks ago. As Bannon already stated he is going back to Breitbart where he can continue to support the President and his agenda.

he can now do and say whatever he wants without being attacked as an official White House leader or having Trump attacked for him saying it.

he even said he is tired of wearing long pants and a blazer so wanted to go back to where he is more comfortable.

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So, do you still hate the Washington establishment? Is it like hating the MSM while defending Fox?

I will always hate them like a flu shot, but sometimes you need it. By the way, you guys have Shep Smith on your side, so you're in good company, seems to be doing a good job with his outrageously funny meltdowns. Lol

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Bannonism may be gone

Definitely not, I'm afraid. The man understands media & manipulation very deeply, is backed by Mercer's vast wealth, and is off to continue that work in the alt right media sphere.

And with nutjobs like Gorka & Miller still in the WH, there's still plenty of white supremacist whispering in Trump's ear.

As for a potential President Pence - he would be even worse (from a Democrat perspective) than Trump in domestic policy matters, but in terms of international policy he appears to be far a more sensible option.

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bass4funk: "That's ok and then we will have Pence who's a real deep, religious and hardened conservative who would continue the Trump agenda, so that would be just as good or even better."

Wow... even bass can't pull the usual "you wish" denial on this one. Even he knows the president is done. I guess that's a baby step forward. About a month later bass will do a second 180 and return to calling Trump a lunatic like he did up to him taking the reigns of the GOP. Then when you point out the hypocrisy of saying that being a deep, religious and hardened Conservative is a good thing while rejecting the same thing if Islam, he'll just revert to other forms of denial.

blacklabel: "he even said he is tired of wearing long pants and a blazer so wanted to go back to where he is more comfortable."

I think you mean the double polo shirts and not showering or shaving or bothering to comb his hair. Terry Gowdy has had to take that position instead for just a little bit, but Bannon can return to being more outwardly racist and can even bash Trump's son-in-law for being Jewish without consequence.

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Also I find it totally hypocritical that Huffington Post announced Bannon's departure with a racial slur.

They described their racist headline as "edgy and playful" so I guess it's all fine in liberal land.

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The Democrats have NO room to talk, they had 8 years to get the private sector up and going and didn't do squat to help rebuild it, quite the opposite

REALLY, you have got to be joking, the good numbers seen today are a LEGACY of Obama's NOTHING to do with trump, in FACT some number are good DESPITE trump not because of him, for crying out loud!!

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Seems everybody will be out by the end of the year

Bannon just contradicted Trump yesterday

The next day, he's out

Who's a Bannon supporter? Remember when he was put into the National Security Council?

Now he can contradict Trump all he wants

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bass4funkToday  12:42 pm JST

So, do you still hate the Washington establishment? Is it like hating the MSM while defending Fox?

I will always hate them like a flu shot, but sometimes you need it.

Flu shots, while not a lot of fun, are basically a good thing. Aren't they? So by that analogy I suppose you mean you think the Washington establishment is basically a good thing too. Unless you're just stringing together poorly-written garbage that you haven't thought out properly.

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This is a bad omen for the future.

Bannon was the lone wolf against going to war with North Korea. The generals, contractors and neocons are going to get their way of never-ending wars.

Trump will have no one telling him that he shouldn't go to war jus because of someone calling him names. Plus, all presidents start wars to distract Americans from domestic issues.

Bad, bad omen because lot's of people are going to die when he starts a war...

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Bannon was the lone wolf against going to war with North Korea. The generals, contractors and neocons are going to get their way of never-ending wars.

Shhhh. Not a word now. Sensible reasoning not allowed only mindless fixation on trump. I personally look forward to the backflips once the murk hits the proverbial fan.

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Wow... even bass can't pull the usual "you wish" denial on this one. Even he knows the president is done.

Actually, I don't think that and it never crossed my mind, a setback perhaps, but done, no. We went through this for the last 2 years.

About a month later bass will do a second 180 and return to calling Trump a lunatic like he did up to him taking the reigns of the GOP.

Probably when Crocodiles fly.

Then when you point out the hypocrisy of saying that being a deep, religious and hardened Conservative is a good thing while rejecting the same thing if Islam, he'll just revert to other forms of denial. 

I had No idea we were a Islam nation or our principles and foundation were built on Islamic values.

Bannon can return to being more outwardly racist and can even bash Trump's son-in-law for being Jewish without consequence.

How's he racist?

REALLY, you have got to be joking, the good numbers seen today are a LEGACY of Obama's NOTHING to do with trump, in FACT some number are good DESPITE trump not because of him, for crying out loud!!

So why aren't they in power, if that's true, Trump and the GOP shouldn't have even come close to touching their impeccable, gleamy record. LOL

Flu shots, while not a lot of fun, are basically a good thing. Aren't they?

Depends

So by that analogy I suppose you mean you think the Washington establishment is basically a good thing too. Unless you're just stringing together poorly-written garbage that you haven't thought out properly.

It's what the left does best.

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You have to admit Trump's administration is a mess and his presidency is not going well

I am not a Trump supporter, yes his admin is a mess but that does not affect me. His Presidency is going very well I think if you stop watching CNN and look at the stock and jobs numbers. As well as deporting illegals and consumer confidence.

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A question for all the MSM-bashing Trump fans:

Last week Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox, very much part of the 'MSM', told Trump that Bannon had to go.

This week, Bannon's gone.

So how do you feel about the president taking orders from a MSM mogul? (especially given how much time the president devotes to attacking the media)

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Last week Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox, very much part of the 'MSM', told Trump that Bannon had to go.

Bannon wasn't terminated because Murdoch told him. And anyway, that's a first.

So what's your point?

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bass4funk: "Actually, I don't think that and it never crossed my mind, a setback perhaps, but done, no. We went through this for the last 2 years."

You mean back when you were calling Trump a lunatic who would not win? And as for it "never crossing your mind", it obviously has, because a week ago you would have said, "In your dreams," not, "well... if it happens, we've got Pence... and maybe that's good!" It means you are starting to see what is nearly 100% sure to happen, and probably within the next couple of months.

Trump is a coward, and a racist bigot. He runs when in trouble. We've seen it a million times with his insecurity, braggery, his back stabbing, then bowing to pressure (then denying he did it or denying he originally thought otherwise). He calls everything that is real "fake", and makes up his own reality, which you guys claim is real (which is hilarious!). The man will run away from this job, too. Guaranteed. All of his ventures have ended in bankruptcy at some point. This will be no different.

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So what's your point?

I didn't make one, I asked a question.

I'll rephrase it for you:

Given how Trump & support spend so much time attacking the 'mainstream media', how do you feel about Trump being under the influence of a mainstream media mogul like Rupert Murdoch?

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You mean back when you were calling Trump a lunatic who would not win?

Until I got smarter and wiser up, happens.

And as for it "never crossing your mind", it obviously has, because a week ago you would have said, "In your dreams," not, "well... if it happens, we've got Pence... and maybe that's good!" It means you are starting to see what is nearly 100% sure to happen, and probably within the next couple of months. 

Well, not really. On what grounds? What's the charge? He hasn't indicted on anything, you guys are too bloodthirsty, chill out a bit.

Trump is a coward, and a racist bigot.

Coward? There is no one else that would go toe to toe with the entire system the way Trump has and as for a bigot, what proof?

He runs when in trouble.

He seemed to be doing well, holding his own almost for an hour at the press conference.

We've seen it a million times with his insecurity, braggery, his back stabbing, then bowing to pressure (then denying he did it or denying he originally thought otherwise).

That's business and politics welcome to the world of reality.

He calls everything that is real "fake", and makes up his own reality, which you guys claim is real (which is hilarious!). The man will run away from this job, too. Guaranteed. All of his ventures have ended in bankruptcy at some point. This will be no different.

Funny, he has more money then he can spend, he's fine financially, always will be. Kudos!

Given how Trump & support spend so much time attacking the 'mainstream media', how do you feel about Trump being under the influence of a mainstream media mogul like Rupert Murdoch?

Laughable. But to be fair, FNC is the only cable news network giving him a FAIR shake, none of the other networks won't even try to do that. Has nothing to do with influencing, it has everything to do with be objective, I know libs hate it, but it's something we all need as humans in life or any profession.

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So, do you still hate the Washington establishment? Is it like hating the MSM while defending Fox?

I will always hate them like a flu shot, but sometimes you need it.

I don't get it. In what way do you need the Washington establishment?

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Has nothing to do with influencing

So what do you imagine Trump and Murdoch discussed over dinner? Baseball? Game of Thrones? Murdoch has a long track record of using his media outlets to support politicians who give him what he wants (see The Sun, Blair, etc)

Anyway, your answer to my question appears to be that you don't mind the president canoodling with a media mogul despite his constant railing against the media. Is that right? Because that's all I was asking.

Any other Trump fans care to answer?

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I don't get it.

Sadly, the left never do. The elections keep passing you guys.

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Sadly, the left never do.

Not saying left or right, but Trump voters don't get that there will never be a Hillary arrest, wall, or Muslim ban. And many other broken promises. At least Obama made Obamacare. But Trump might end up making Medicare for all.

but that does not affect me. 

It would if you needed healthcare. You would not be able to settle bill easily like in Japan (and he promised something better than Obamacare). But if you go to the US and get sick just stiff the bill and come back to Japan. What say you?

As well as deporting illegals

Nothing really different from Obama. Trump broke his promise of a mass deportation of all 30M illegals. And where is the voter fraud mass arrest?

Also I find it totally hypocritical that Huffington Post announced Bannon's departure with a racial slur.

Sessions made a racial slur towards Hawaii.

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So what do you imagine Trump and Murdoch discussed over dinner? Baseball? Game of Thrones?

Or maybe Ballers?

Murdoch has a long track record of using his media outlets to support politicians who give him what he wants (see The Sun, Blair, etc)

The same goes for my former boss Griffin and CNN Jeff Zucker, so what's your point?

Anyway, your answer to my question appears to be that you don't mind the president canoodling with a media mogul despite his constant railing against the media. Is that right? Because that's all I was asking.

The last president did it with MSNBC so I don't mind.

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Bass4funk: Not fall in line, I'm not a politician

If the Republican establishment manages to get back into power, and despite all of your tough talk against them, you will pucker up and kiss some establishment butt. It will be a complete 180 and you will do as you are told.

I'm just a conservative voter.

You aren't non-partisan anymore?

Jeeze, is there anything you really stand for?

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The last president did it with MSNBC

Sure. But the last president didn't do it while constantly attacking the media. That's why Trump's cosying up to Murdoch is of interest i.e. because he does it while constantly attacking 'the MSM' and presenting himself as anti-establishment; and that's why I'm amused that his supporters don't seem to mind the blatant hypocrisy.

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JimizoToday  05:11 pm JST

So, do you still hate the Washington establishment? Is it like hating the MSM while defending Fox?

I will always hate them like a flu shot, but sometimes you need it.

I don't get it. In what way do you need the Washington establishment?

bass4funkToday  05:42 pm JST

"I don't get it."

Sadly, the left never do. The elections keep passing you guys.

I see he cut out the question, "why do you need the Washington establishment?" I would ask why, but as usual when he's being weaselly and trying to avoid giving a straight answer I don't think anything he writes will make any sense. I wouldn't read it anyway.

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I would never do such a thing. I'm a conservative, not a Democrat collective or a lemming.

You hated Trump until he started gaining power, then did a 180. You'll abandon your tough talk against establishment Republicans and will fall under their thumb in a heartbeat if they get the White House back. You're already praising Pence....just in case.

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Romney, in a Facebook post, told Trump he was facing a "defining moment" and needed to apologize "for the good of the country."

I agree with Romney. Trump should apologize for mishandling the situation. Trump did condemn the white nationalists and he was correct that the Antifa were equally to blame for instigating the violence. But he did not from the first day go after the Nazi's and skinheads especially since a person on the other side was killed by a white nationalist. How hard is it to condemn Nazi's- an ideology America lost many lives fighting in WWII?

He also allows the press to bait him into his mistakes. His lack of impulse control is his undoing.

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Sure. But the last president didn't do it while constantly attacking the media.

He did on many, many occasions. His loving posse, especially the good Rev. and Maddow and the cheering choir.

That's why Trump's cosying up to Murdoch is of interest i.e. because he does it while constantly attacking 'the MSM' and presenting himself as anti-establishment; and that's why I'm amused that his supporters don't seem to mind the blatant hypocrisy.

It goes both ways, No difference.

I see he cut out the question, "why do you need the Washington establishment?" I would ask why, but as usual when he's being weaselly and trying to avoid giving a straight answer I don't think anything he writes will make any sense. I wouldn't read it anyway.

There's nothing about the establishment. I don't like them, but if I have to choose between a bullet or noose...

I say this not necessarily to cut our friend down to size. I say it to draw draw attention and alarm to the state of political discourse in our age. This is really getting scary.

Cut me down??? Dear lord, not even on the worst day. The problem with the left is that they are conditioned to believe on side and everything else disgaurd it. Again, as long as liberals fail and refuse to see the facts and error of their misguided sneaky ways, they will remain with them bears.

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He did on many, many occasions

I'm not aware of a single instance of Obama attacking the 'mainstream media'. If you know of one, please do share.

No difference

The difference is that the last president didn't attack the media or present himself as anti-establishment. Trump does both, so his cosying up to an establishment mainstream media mogul is something I'm curious to know how his followers react to. In your case, that's been whatever deflection or denial you can throw out, as expected. Thanks for answering.

Any other Trump fans out there with either the same or a different take on this?

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