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Barbados will spur others to ditch the queen: experts

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These new tiny countries may find it tough going alone.

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These new tiny countries may find it tough going alone

They will not miss being exploited by GB and the atrocity of slavery forced on the island under GB ownership.

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Barbados will spur others to ditch the queen: experts

No, It wont. But the death of the Queen may spur others to become republics.

They will not miss being exploited by GB and the atrocity of slavery forced on the island under GB ownership.

Old news over a century out of date. The UK has exploited nobody under the Queens reign.

While some in her family do not command any respect, I think she does. She means well and has done a good job as monarch with the only possible stain being during Charles issues with Dianna. and her subsequent death. Hard to fault a mother for siding with her son even if he is a bit of a pratt.

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Monarchy does not have a place in present-day history-let it fall away….

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The British empire and the United Kingdom itself has collapsed under Queen Elizabeth II, which was led to historians dubbing her 'the queen of the ashes'.

Excellent talk here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rEtZGJqFBg

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Severing ties with the UK will just mean these places become more dominated by America, especially Caribbean countries. I'd hardly call that an improvement.

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I wonder if it will fall into a small dictatorship, with lots of corruption? sometimes the grass is not always greener on the other side.

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mithToday 05:22 pm JST

Kenyans may disagree

And they may not. Who is to say but Kenyans themselves?

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I wish the UK itself would follow suit. What a ridiculous system to still have in 2021.

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But then again, give the British public the vote and they will elect someone like Boris Johnson or Richard Branson... Just randomly pick some from the phone book or have a lottery every year.

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Well, if anything, it shows that when the people of a nation state want to reform their constitution, because it's in need of it, that it's entirely doable. Many nation states, not least the UK, are showing a dire need for major constitutional change. In the UK, the state of the Union itself, the monarchy, lack of proportional representation, the exclusion of overseas electors from voting, hereditary peerages, an unwritten constitution, all need urgent work, as the political system has become so dysfunctional it's falling apart at the seams.

Granted, a population of 300,000 is tiny, but Bajans need to look to cooperating more closely with other Caribbean and Central and South American neighbours. Bit of a pipedream, but still...

They need to look out though, as many neighbouring countries have suffered invasion, attempted invasion or proxy wars in the past few decades: Grenada, Panamá, Nicaragua ... Small countries are always easy pickings.

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These new tiny countries may find it tough going alone.

Haiti has been ostracized by Europe for several centuries because they fought for their independence and kicked the French Europeans off of their island. It is time for the other colonies to do the same and not just British colonies.

Mandela was wrong, Ghandi ( a racist) was wrong, and MLK was wrong!

The Americans did it, the French did it, the Filipinos did it, and the Ethiopians did it, so why shouldn't anyone else fight off or remove their oppressors?

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@Numan - I think Haiti has a problem that's not only a lot bigger than having been 'ostracized' by Europe. It's truly a mess, and that has nothing to do with separating from the French. I can only hope Barbadians don't go nuts in the same way, but knowing a few of them, I doubt that will happen.

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Barbados may regret this.

Look at Hong Kong. A British colony until 1997, freedom of movement, thriving economy, an island paradise. Envy of Asia, everyone was rich. Now, a horrible backwater, corrupt HK govt, no independent legal system, police state, one of the worst provinces in Communist China.

Think twice about removing yourself from the rule of your wise British masters, people of Barbados.

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Fighto...

Look at Hong Kong. A British colony until 1997

Very different situation. The lease was up and China asked for the New Territories back.

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Look at Hong Kong. 

Hong Kong’s problems stem completely from the fact that it is now ruled by the CCP, and not because the Queen is no longer head of state per se. Its a really useless comparison with Barbados, which as far as I know has no plans to become part of China.

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This is another sign at just how badly Meghan and Harry have damaged the image of the monarchy.

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Well being from Florida I saw the recent devastating hurricane hit the Caribbean and huge amounts of Puerto Ricans relocated to Orlando. It is not an overstatement to say that being a small island nation will be tough.

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They will not miss being exploited by GB and the atrocity of slavery forced on the island under GB ownership.

True, but that now means that they are completely on their own, they rely solely on tourism to keep their economy going, and if something happens to that critical industry like, let's say a pandemic over the long-term it can have devastating results for this and many other nations in the Caribbean, now don't keep me wrong I support their rights to independence, but these smaller islands need to seriously think about the pros and cons to becoming an independent nation.

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Well, okay, but the usual pattern of newly independent small countries is to have their land bought up by foreign owners. New stores and hotels open, new houses are built, the price of everything rises, and the people find themselves unable to maintain their own houses in their own country, even if they have owned them for generations. Independence might be great, but they need to take it slowly and carefully.

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There’s a lot of confusion here about what it is that Barbados is actually doing. It is not declaring its independence from the UK, it’s been independent since 1961. The country is a parliamentary democracy, with a Prime Minister and its own government, and the role of the monarchy is exercised by a Governor-General and is limited to formal, mainly symbolic functions, as in Australia where the Queen is still formally the head of state but takes no part in the running of the country. The decision to discontinue that role in Barbados is therefore mainly a symbolic one, which of course doesn’t mean that it’s of no importance. So any challenges Barbados may be facing now as a small country trying to find its place will be essentially the same ones they’ve been facing for the past 60 years, which was when in all important aspects they threw off the colonial rule of the United Kingdom.

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'People misunderstanding what is actually going on' shocker, who'd have thought that would happen?

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