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much of the rest of the world opts to learn how to live with the virus.

Learning to live with it means allowing millions to become infected and to die; makes sense.

Let's criticize China though for putting the health of their people before capitalism.

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A handful of customers and staff at the parlor would be locked in temporarily for checks, authorities said.

I suppose, if one must be locked in somewhere, one could do quite worse than Heaven Supermarket Bar.

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At least the Chinese won’t suffer from Long COVID.

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Heaven Supermarket Bar, and other businesses nearby, including the Paradise Massage & Spa, 

Getting into heaven or paradise has always been difficult, but now you really have to be tested.

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Learning to live with it means allowing millions to become infected and to die; makes sense.

No, that is the obtuse position the CCP is adopting for China, the actual meaning is that millions become infected but they don't die anymore because the disease that come from the infection is no longer as dangerous.

Let's criticize China though for putting the health of their people before capitalism.

Hiding the actual number of covid related deaths, making people die without medical attention because of the lockdowns and ruining their means of live with the local destruction of the economy is not putting the health of the people first, it means putting control of the people as the main priority.

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No, that is the obtuse position the CCP is adopting for China, the actual meaning is that millions become infected but they don't die anymore because the disease that come from the infection is no longer as dangerous.

Wrong because factually that is the position the US and other Western nations adopted, with the numbers proven by statistical data.

Hiding the actual number of covid related deaths, making people die without medical attention because of the lockdowns and ruining their means of live with the local destruction of the economy is not putting the health of the people first, it means putting control of the people as the main priority.

Even if that statement, without verifiable data to back it up, were half true, it is a better approach than letting millions of people die and ruinng the lives of their relatives, and allowing destruction of every other economy in the world except China, which had positive growth throughout the pandemic.

So in fact your scenario is just an opinion without backing by substantiated facts. It is like saying the US only suffered a few thousand of covid related deaths because of the people's Zodiac signs.

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All this for omicron part II?

Seems most in the U.S. have had it, but life goes on.

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and allowing destruction of every other economy in the world except China, which had positive growth throughout the pandemic.

LOL! First, here in Australia the economy was not destroyed.

Second, below is from some online search:

China's economy faces its worst downward pressure since the spring of 2020 when it was hit by the first wave of Covid-19, according to Nomura Holdings Inc. The slowdown in China's growth worsened in the first quarter and markets should be concerned about a further slide in the second, Nomura Holdings Inc.25 Mar 2022

Yes. It did have growth but it has slowed down. It is not immune to the effect of covid.

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All this for omicron part II?

Seems most in the U.S. have had it, but life goes on.

Actually apart from saving face (the CPP bragged about how successful they were in fighting covid, even declaring victory in those propaganda videos), there is a logical reason they cannot take a covid wave.

China's population is 1.4 billion (Shanghai alone has 20 million). Even Omicron is mild, with a vaccines not as effective as expected and a patchy healthcare system, the hospitals would highly likely be overload if they drops the zero covid policy. Just like what happened in Hong Kong a while ago.

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LOL! First, here in Australia the economy was not destroyed.

Depends how you define it.

Australia inflation surged to a 14 year high.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-06/accelerating-inflation-job-ads-cement-australia-rate-hike-case#xj4y7vzkg

initial COVID-19 lockdowns resulted in the worst quarterly fall on record of 6.8 per cent in the June quarter of 2020.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-01/gdp-economic-growth-september-quarter-2021/100664566#:~:text=%22GDP%20in%20the%20September%20quarter%202021%20was%200.2,using%20part%20of%20their%20increased%20savings%20to%20spend.

Yes. It did have growth but it has slowed down.

As I mentioned, China is the only country to have had positive growth through the entire pandemic.

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How much longer will it be before the Chinavirus, China's gift to the world, finally comes full circle and brings about the end of the dictatorship which is the CCP......

Xi is apparently trying to extend his reign shortly, so I'm hoping the time is ripe for Revolution there - it has to come.

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Authorities in China's capital Beijing on Monday raced to contain a COVID-19 outbreak traced to a raucous 24-hour bar known for cheap liquor and big crowds, with millions facing mandatory testing and thousands under targeted lockdowns.

Uh oh, better hope Covid gets them. If not, the government surely will.

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Wearing a hazmat suit is pointless and just for Chinese propaganda. It’s not Ebola. I’d rather have Covid than Cancer. I never had Covid, that I know of, but I know plenty of people who have and they described it as no worse than the flu. Don’t know anyone personally who has died from it. And BS. China is definitely underreporting the daily infection numbers.

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initial COVID-19 lockdowns resulted in the worst quarterly fall on record of 6.8 per cent in the June quarter of 2020.

I am confused. You point out lockdown measures destroy Australia's economy. But on the other hand you praise China's covid zero policy which includes month long lockdown that you believe is good for its economy.

"As I mentioned, China is the only country to have had positive growth through the entire pandemic.

Do a little google search before bragging on something.

Projected GDP Ranking

SourceInternational Monetary Fund World Economic Outlook (October - 2021)Date26 Oct 2021

In the list of top 50, All economies will experience a positive growth rate in 2021. Ireland is the fastest-growing economy with 14.04%, followed by Chile (11.00%). Thailand has the lowest growth rate of 0.96%, followed by the United Arab Emirates (2.24%) and Japan (2.36%).

Right, only China.

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Personally I consider it also an indicator for best knowing what to do because of best knowing the viruses. So there’s of course no need to like the regime there, but how they treat the outbreaks by strict measures and a ZeroCovid policy, that’s just great to see. Like I they of course know too, that living with the viruses isn’t possible and act adequately. Wonderful.

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yoshisan88Today  06:29 pm JST

I am confused. You point out lockdown measures destroy Australia's economy. But on the other hand you praise China's covid zero policy which includes month long lockdown that you believe is good for its economy.

I will rephrase what I wrote to make it easy.

China is the only major country to have positive growth throughout the Covid crisis (as cited above).

And I am praising China's zero lockdown policy which, like Australia when it employed the same, results in fewer infections and related deaths than any other strategy. Just plain facts.

Do a little google search before bragging on something.

Same to you, because:

All economies will experience a positive growth rate in 2021.

Google probably shows the Covid crisis started in 2020.

And here is some Google on Australia's economy during the Covid crisis:

Australia's economy has plunged into its first recession in nearly 30 years, as it suffers the economic fallout from the coronavirus.

and

This is the worst economic growth in 61 years due to a severe contraction in household spending on goods and services.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53994318

and recently:

Australian inflation hits 20-year-high

https://www.reuters.com/business/australian-inflation-hits-20-year-high-brings-rate-rises-near-2022-04-27/

How was my Google research?

On the same page now?

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Wrong because factually that is the position the US and other Western nations adopted, with the numbers proven by statistical data.

The moment other countries have lower death rates than China this argument is debunked. You keep trying to make it as if the world was just the US, but in reality some countries have done better than China without having to sacrifice their public health, economies and human rights.

Even if that statement, without verifiable data to back it up, were half true, it is a better approach than letting millions of people die and ruinng the lives of their relatives

Which is irrelevant because there are better approach that do not require letting millions of people die, since this is true it still means the priority of the CCP is not saving lives but controlling them, because if the priority were the lives it would do as the best examples available.

So in fact your scenario is just an opinion without backing by substantiated facts

Already substanciated repeatedly, there is no problem in copy-pasting the same links that disprove you every time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/20/world/asia/covid-shanghai-china-deaths.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/shanghai-death-numbers-raise-questions-over-its-covid-accounting-2022-04-28/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-61117738

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yoshisan88Today  06:29 pm JST

All economies will experience a positive growth rate in 2021. Ireland is the fastest-growing economy with 14.04%, 

And since you mentioned Ireland, how is this Google research?

**Ireland is officially in a recession** as its economy shrank by 6.1% between April and June due to the outbreak of COVID-19.

https://extra.ie/2020/09/07/business/ireland-recession-covid-gdp#:~:text=07%2F09%2F2020%20Ireland%20is%20officially%20in%20a%20recession%20as,4.7%25%20reduction%20was%20recorded%20in%202008’s%20fourth%20quarter.

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Mate, you forgot to write the date of the news article.

Australia's economy has plunged into its first recession in nearly 30 years, as it suffers the economic fallout from the coronavirus.

and

This is the worst economic growth in 61 years due to a severe contraction in household spending on goods and services.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53994318 in first recession for nearly 30 years

2 September 2020

The article was written in September, 2020. Back then all states in Australia were under strict Covid restrictions. My state Queensland did not fully open its borders until December, 2021. The zero covid policy seriously damaged the Australian economy! That is the reason why Australia changes to living with the virus.

Australian inflation hits 20-year-high

https://www.reuters.com/business/australian-inflation-hits-20-year-high-brings-rate-rises-near-2022-04-27/

Read the whole article first

This reflected the broad-based nature of price rises, as the impacts of supply disruptions, rising shipping costs and other global and domestic inflationary factors flowed through the economy," said Michelle Marquardt, the head of price statistics at the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

It is not due to living with the virus!

Zero covid policy is definitely not good to the economy of Australia.

Maybe China is different, Zero covid is good to its economy.

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Sounds like the Chinese really care about human life. I guess that means they won't be invading Taiwan anytime soon considering how many lives would be lost in that conflict.

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