Biden's withdrawal injects uncertainty into wars, trade disputes and other foreign policy challenges

Trump not intelligent enough to be POTUS.

I'd like a reporter to ask a serious economic policy question, and use terms like Macro and Micro economics , terms Trump is unfamiliar with.

I doubt the man has read a serious book in his lifetime.

Cunning yes...intelligent no.

And famously, he is incapable of listening generally and specifically, listening to advice from experts.

Former Homeland Security head said Trump once posed the idea of a 2000 mile MOAT on the Mexican border , filled with snakes and alligators.

Yeah...that level of stupidity.

See how Trump unleashed a torrent of vitriol against Biden after the retirement was announced. So much for the unity candidate. Didn't last long. While Biden offered Trump good wishes after his attempted shooting, Trump couldn't just say something like, "Enjoy your retirement, Joe." Trump is a truly loathsome lout.

What I find both delicious and supremely weird about this possible campaign is the thought of a career prosecutor and former state attorney general running against a convicted felon for the highest position in America. Who will America choose to be their leader?

bass4funk

How will Trump end the Gaza war which has been going on for decades? Or stop Russia from invading countries. Will Trump lift the sanctions against Putin?

Wait until we get there.

No insights then

Trump is too weak to stand up against Putin. Called him a great leader.

I'm all for "America First " too Bass.

If that means an end to the hundreds of US military bases overseas, the endless interference in other nations elections {Venezuela }, funding proxy wars to support long held ideologies and all the other rat crazy stuff the US war machine does....I'm all for it.

The problem for Trump and his supporters is that "real politics " and "real economics " dont get heard in their minds.

The US ruling class controls America...and all the powerful lobby groups that create decisions Congress makes.

Tell me how the US will revitalise the steel industry , or auto manufacturing , or whatever big employer that is on it's last legs. ?

Too little, too late....and Trump cares about Trump only.

Being drunk only lasts a short time and then comes the hangover and reality.

After the Trump attempted assassination Biden stated with empathy and kind words calling him Donald. Biden decides to stand down and Trump issues insults.

After the assassination attempt, Trump called for unity but it didn't last long.

Trump issued his statement on Truth Social, writing, "Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was!"

This was heavily mentioned as an issue at that the G7 meeting a couple of weeks ago. Other world leaders did not want to commit to anything said by someone they saw as out of office by November at the latest. Biden withdrawing proves that this was a correct assessment. These are troubled times and we can do without zombie meetings for appearance purposes only. We need diplomacy, cooperation, and leadership.

Having uncertainty in the US is bad for the rest of the world. Trump's age and mental state mean that his election would not end this uncertainty either.

“Most Europeans realize that Ukraine is increasingly going to be their burden,” said Sudha David-Wilp, director of the Berlin office of the German Marshall Fund, a research institute. “Everyone is trying to get ready for all the possible outcomes.”

Germany's new draft budget halves its military aid to Ukraine. Someone can stand on a stage and say all the fine words they like about "staying the course", but this is not being backed up by their money.

With Vice President Kamala Harris being eyed as a potential replacement for Biden, Israelis on Sunday scrambled to understand what her candidacy would mean for their country as it confronts increasing global isolation over its military campaign against Hamas.

There is some pessimism on the Democrat side looking to the DNC but there is reason for confidence moving forward.

It is already being said that Kamala is a woman and POC and won't win in the heartland and swing states.

But Obama went on to victory after a bad debate performance and concerns about banker bailouts and drone strikes against a statesman-like and telegenic conservative opponent like Romney.

Clinton was a woman and widely unpopular but won the popular vote against Trump.

A good debate performance and strong campaign and platform from Kamala Harris could change the conservation.

But I’m an American, I’m neutral from that standpoint

ROFL

Democrats are a threat to democracy because they undermined the will of the voters

I find the types who believe conspiracy theories about massive voter fraud when they don’t get the result they like are a problem.

Just to be clear, are you on board with all the claims of massive voter fraud in the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections and Ted Cruz ( whose father was in on the JFK assassination) cheating Trump in the 2016 Iowa caucuses?

Are you more a la carte on this?

I never thought the day would come when Blacklabel cried a river over Biden.

The donations raised were more than $50 million in small donations. Millions of grassroots people.

How will Trump end the Gaza war which has been going on for decades? Or stop Russia from invading countries. Will Trump lift the sanctions against Putin?

And what sort of "stable genius " has Hulk Hogan as a speaker at his event. ?

A stupid, populist one, thats who.

Blacklabel

Trump's speech at the RNC gives us insight into the type of presidency he wants.

or the 4 years he was actually successfully the President would give you a clue. lol

A first-term president is more retrained if planning to run for a second term. but if a second term is won then all bets are off with nothing to lose.

Trump also had his major failures like no Trumpcare and the southern wall.

Harris 2024! Protect women's rights!

That should go very well over with the Black community, skipping over the VP, Harris, the first woman of color over a white slick-haired dude. There would be an internal civil war not to mention the alienation of Black voters

You don't like Democrats, what does it matter to you?

Trump's RNC speech FactCheck

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-rnc-speech

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-donald-trumps-rnc-speech-immigration-economy/story?id=112091019

The only uncertain it introduces is that there is less of a chance of a manchurian candidate occupying the white house next year.

Trump will bring in a new era of peace -MAGA!

If he becomes President, and that remains to be seen, he will not bring peace. He will be the Neville Chamberlain of our era. Appeasing a dictator never works. Chamberlain thought he was buying "peace in our time" by surrendering Czechoslovakia to Hitler. We all know where that went. Well the same will be true of surrendering a chunk of Ukraine to Russia. The Russians are not going to stop at Ukraine and anyone who thinks that is true is supremely naive, and dangerous. The only way to ensure Europe is not swallowed up by another ghastly war is to defeat the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That is literally the only way to ensure peace in the future.

But I’m an American, I’m neutral from that standpoint

"neutral"? Fox/Maga would support Putin before they support any Democrat. "Putting America first" is just a slogan not the way they live life

Blacklabel

support he continues in the election race.

no I support muh democracy! The democratic process of respecting our voting process that lets the people select their nominee at the ballot box.

And so do the Democrats.

Democrats are a threat to democracy because they undermined the will of the voters.

Untrue. The biggest threat to democracy is Trump.

bass4funk

He needs to show his abilities first.

He has.

He hasn't even been elected VP yet. We don't know what he will be like. Look at VP Pence.

Truth hurts

If You believe it, then go right ahead. ROFL!

Now no revenge for Trump.

Today was the best revenge for Trump

Trump will be very disappointed today that forever he was historically defeated by Biden.

Again, you go ahead and think that. Lol

Trump's historical loss to Biden in 2020 deeply hurt causing him to react like a schoolyard bully. Causing the arrest of more than 1,000 of his supporters. Many now sitting in prisons. Trump wanted his revenge but alas confined to the history books.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, an ally of former President Donald Trump 

Israeli war hawks would probably love to see the Trump-Jared duo back pushing for more housing and land for Israelis, so would the global arms makers. Another Trump presidency, dogs forbid, and an overheated area would have even more fuel for their long burning fires.

Trump will make a phone call on 20/1 and end the Ukraine war.

bass4funk

No insights then

I’m not running for office, don’t need to, as long as he focuses on America first, I’m stoked.

So if Trump ends the Israel support you will go with that?

Trump is mentioned several times in the article. Trump's points at the RNC are important. Especially the false ones.

bass4funkToday 12:43 pm JST

Former Homeland Security head said Trump once posed the idea of a 2000 mile MOAT on the Mexican border , filled with snakes and alligators.

Interesting, I like the idea

I assume we can use Texas's water to do it, then.

Blacklabel

The Republicans should drive the message every hour that Democrats just threw out all the votes from the much democracy aligned voting process.

> in favor of what Hollywood, donors and Barack Obama want.

> muh democracy!

After spending the last 4 years denouncing Biden, calling him too old, and unfit for office now you want to fight in his corner and support he continues in the election race.

Blacklabel

The Republicans should drive the message every hour that Democrats just threw out all the votes from the much democracy aligned voting process.

They didn't. Joe dropped out. The winning candidate still needs the most delegates.

in favor of what Hollywood, donors and Barack Obama want.

muh democracy!

Not true.

Trump's speech at the RNC gives us insight into the type of presidency he wants.

BlacklabelToday 01:02 pm JST

Trump's speech at the RNC gives us insight into the type of presidency he wants.

or the 4 years he was actually successfully the President would give you a clue. lol

He was constrained by needed to get re-elected and the sanity of government employees reducing the damage he could do.

I think Zelenskyy and Putin are two sides of the same coin.

Putin is the bully, Zelensky is the kid tired of being bullied and finally standing up for himself. Zelensky would have never attacked Putin first.

I feel like your side comes off as someone who doesn't understand what's going on like the propaganda says so and you believe it no questions asked

bass4funk

Putin is the bully, Zelensky is the kid tired of being bullied and finally standing up for himself. Zelensky would have never attacked Putin first. 

Again, Zelenskyy has his own dark history,

No, he doesn't.

I see that Trump wants to change the terms of the debate now that it is with Kamala. He is panicking.

Right? Maga heads will have a metal breakdown if they see their leader lose to a woman that is also person of color in a debate. They may have to rethink all their policies after that

im worried about our democracy and the sanctity of a vote at a ballot box.

Oh give us a break. You are not. What does a democratic primary have to do with you? Are you a Democrat?

Or is that suddenly inconvenient and “the party leaders” just pick the candidate?

I don't know, maybe we should ask the RNC. Reeeee

In February 2019, the Republican National Committee voted to provide undivided support to Trump.[5][6] Several states canceled their primaries and caucuses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

BlacklabelToday 02:13 pm JST

They are now free to choose a new candidate.

A new candidate based on what? based on the vote of the people? People chose Biden. How will delegates chose? Whoever they perform want?

Or based on who Obama, the party and donors demand? Not the people who voted.

Their party their rules. Maybe focus on winning the popular vote once in a quarter century.

bass4funkToday 01:47 pm JST

I think Zelenskyy and Putin are two sides of the same coin.

Zelenskyy did not launch an invasion, despite what Mark Levin and Tucker would have you believe.

BlacklabelToday 02:24 pm JST

our system works only when Barack Obama’s vote and my vote are counted, both as 1 each.

The electoral college by definition makes a swing state vote count infinitely more than a non-swing state vote.

BlacklabelToday 02:26 pm JST

who got the most votes in the 2024 Democrat primary? Will he be the nominee? If not, why not?

Technically Harris got a boatload of votes in primary so problem averted? Or not because you are in hissy fit mode.

This will be Trump's last chance to stand for election. He so badly wanted to revenge Biden for his historical win in 2020 with the largest popular vote ever and losing the EC vote. Now no revenge for Trump.

that’s not democracy. At all. In the end it was just projection as always, Democrats are really the “threat to democracy”

but but Hannibal’s lectern or hulk hogan or something lol

There is a high probability Trump is profoundly unintelligent and the MAGA movement is a faith based threat to democracy. His revivalist speeches are one sign and there could be a reason for his references to 'Hannibal Lecter' all the time.

He is mixing up migrants seeking political 'asylum' with people getting out of insane 'asylums' and Hannibal Lecter!

https://www.newsweek.com/critics-george-conway-point-missing-link-donald-trump-hannibal-lecter-remarks-1927997

MAGA.

Or maybe Trump is using some 4-D chess NLP magic to ultra-demonize immigrants subliminally?

Biden will be the president until the next one is inaugurated.

bass4funk

This will be Trump's last chance to stand for election.

And now thankfully we have Vance just in case.

He needs to show his abilities first.

He so badly wanted to revenge Biden for his historical win in 2020 with the largest popular vote ever and losing the EC vote.

ROFL!!!!!

Truth hurts

Now no revenge for Trump.

Today was the best revenge for Trump

Trump will be very disappointed today that forever he was historically defeated by Biden.

Time to talk about the elephant in the room. Trump is too old to be running for president

Many international leaders across the world are praising Biden for his presidency and more than 50 years of public service.

Israel’s left-wing Haaretz daily newspaper ran a story scrutinizing Harris’ record of support for Israel, pointing to her reputation as Biden’s “bad cop" who has vocally admonished Israel for its offensive in Gaza. In recent months, she has gone further than Biden in calling for a cease-fire, denouncing Israel's invasion of Rafah and expressing horror over the civilian death toll in Gaza.

Harris has not even begun her campaign for the number one office but she already has some canny, humanitarian foreign policy accomplishments to show.

Overall I think foreign leaders , especially in Western Europe with rich, successful democratic socialist traditions look at Trump's rhetoric labeling all opposition 'far-left, radical, socialist, marxist' and shake their heads.

They see how Trump and his MAGA supporters label efforts to improve lives like universal healthcare, low cost education, stable social safety nets and sensible gun legislation as far-left Marxist conspiracies.

The MAGA corporate funded shifting of the Overton Window in America could be set to cause even more misery.

https://www.epi.org/publication/50-reasons/

They also live in the U.S., believe it or not.

You live in Japan, you're on a news page in Japan. Try a more neutral page and see which side people lean more towards. AKA something not Maga or Fox

Trump's speech at the RNC gives us insight into the type of presidency he wants.

or the 4 years he was actually successfully the President would give you a clue.

Indeed...

A botched COVID response and a "safe vaccine that works" his supporters, especially the ones posting here, think is poison and will kill you...

More secret meetings with Putin where he later comes out and says he is a "genius"...

More "love letter" exchanges with despot KJU because they worked so well last time...

More "congratulations to President Xi" for his appointment as leader for life...and his takeover of Hong Kong...

More "best-ever" cabinet appointments who later come out and say he is an "idiot", "unfit for office", "irrational", and with the "understanding of a fifth grader"...

Blacklabel

The people voted for Joe Biden. If he is suddenly unwilling the people should get to vote again.

not just stuck with whoever Obama, Hollywood and some donors choose.

They aren't stuck with whoever Obama, Hollywood and some donors choose. By leaving the race, Biden has released all the pledged delegates he'd accumulated during the primary process earlier this year.

They are now free to choose a new candidate.

that’s not democracy. At all.

It wouldn't be, but that's not what is happening.

In the end it was just projection as always, Democrats are really the “threat to democracy”

Nope. MAGA is the biggest threat to democracy.

I believe there was a massive fraud perpetrated on voters in the 2024 Democrat primary. Don’t you??

No, but thanks for worrying about Democrats. How kind of you.

I see that Trump wants to change the terms of the debate now that it is with Kamala. He is panicking.

bass4funkToday 01:59 pm JST

Putin is the bully, Zelensky is the kid tired of being bullied and finally standing up for himself. Zelensky would have never attacked Putin first. 

Again, Zelenskyy has his own dark history, 2sides of the same coin.

Even if that were true, basic geography dictates that Ukraine is our vital ally.

Again, I will be happy when this comes to an end. I’m a US taxpayer and I have the right to decide where my money goes. I want it to stay in the U.S. not go to Ukraine.

This is why we have intelligent civil servants who don't just pack up the US military because someone wants a tax cut.

Blacklabel

Ah so throwing out ONLY 14 million votes is still considered as supporting democracy and the voices of all those voters.

No votes are being thrown out. Joe got those delegates and now that he is bowing out, he is releasing them.

Blacklabel

Does the reason he dropped out also prevent him from being president from today?

No.

BlacklabelToday 02:30 pm JST

WHY has Joe dropped out after claiming for weeks only the Lord Almighty could force this?

He realized he was in danger of letting you do bad things to this country.

where is Joe? Have we heard from Joe? Was he forced out? If not, What’s the reason? Most popular president with the most votes (supposedly) in human history. So why?

He's not obligated to appear for you.

Does the reason he dropped out also prevent him from being president from today?

I know you just cannot wait for President Harris but Patience!!!

Ramsey's KitchenToday 02:40 pm JST

"Untrue. The biggest threat to democracy is Trump."

Scaremongering nonsense.The world did just fine last time Trump was POTUS , it will not come to an end next time either.

Trump didn't have to defend NATO and Taiwan against an emboldened set of dictators last time.

"Untrue. The biggest threat to democracy is Trump."

Scaremongering nonsense.The world did just fine last time Trump was POTUS 

Well, he did get thrown out by the US electorate after one term.

Oh wait! You aren’t on board with the stolen election nonsense, are you?

Almost as much of a problem as the types who believe radical left conspiracy theories about Trump campaign staging a "fake" assassination, with Putin's help

Silly nonsense indeed.

So you aren’t on board with the stolen election crap, then.

That’s a relief.

Quo Primum

You fail to remember that Trump already was the president before. What exactly did he do during those four years to indicate he's a "threat to democracy"?

The fake electors scheme and asking Mike Pense not to certify the election. Watch the Jan 6 inquire to get more details.

Biden and the Democrats are weaponizing the criminal justice system against their political opponents -- and not just against Trump either.

Actually they aren't. Biden's administration has not been involved in any of Trump's cases.

And what about student loan forgiveness? The Supreme Court ruled against it, but Biden is doing it anyway.

Not true. He did it a different way that isn't covered by the SCOTUS ruling.

How is Trump a "threat to democracy" when it's a Democrat president blatantly ignoring a Supreme Court ruling.

He didn't.

So please, enough of the "threat to democracy" nonsense.

It's true. Trump is a threat to democracy.

If anyone is such a threat, it's the Democrats. The Biden regime has exhibited that frequently over the past four years.

The Biden regime nor the Democrats have never been a threat to democracy.

Quo PrimumToday 03:21 pm JST

Take the L, let the guy who's already run the country well for four years (and who would've sailed to re-election in 2020 if not for the COVID) do it again, and regroup for next time.

There is no guarantee there will be a next time when the MAGA party expresses no shame about backing America's enemies and destroying America's government.

Trump will make a phone call on 20/1 and end the Ukraine war.

Could be - but I think he will just "think about it" and like the docs he said he declassified, it will just magically happen...

MAGA-Magic...

RichardPearceToday 01:27 pm JST

Support for the Azovian regime's war on eastern Ukraine and Russia was always going to be uncertain during the next Presidency, if for no other reason than the survival of the Azovian regime's control over western Ukraine is uncertain over that time frame.

It is the legitimate Ukrainian government as recognized by every country on Earth. It's a long way to Kyiv, let alone Lviv.

America's wars on Iraq and Syria were also likely to end, either in a peace deal followed by a retreat, a retreat followed by a peace deal, or just a retreat.

There's less than a thousand troops in Syria. If getting them out makes you feel like you won something, I guess we should be happy you are easy to please.

it seems that you have a lot of ... knowledge.new russian specialist here?

You mean basic understanding of what is going on in the world? It is true if Russia stayed in Russia there would be no war. What I don't understand is how some people here act as if there is a sniper watching them wait to take them out if they ever badmouthed Russia

No, I’m just an American first Nationalist.

And, that's terrible given the history of that phrase.

Just to be clear, are you on board with all the claims of massive voter fraud

I believe there was a massive fraud perpetrated on voters in the 2024 Democrat primary. Don’t you??

So you are not on board with all of Trump’s claims of election fraud? Pretty tepid.

The man in your avatar might see you as a fake news following hater or loser.

As for massive fraud on the voters in the Democratic primary, it wasn’t stolen ( do you have any theories on this? Was Hugo Chavez involved? ). You could certainly make the case that they voted for someone who intended to run but dropped out later. I don’t know how that can be seen as ‘fraud’.

There is certainly an argument that Harris becoming the candidate by coronation isn’t democratic.

based on the vote of the people? 

Exactly like what happened in 2020 when Trump was the incumbant. There were no GOP primaries.

People chose Biden. 

14,000,000 people. A small sliver of the US population. Besides, rightists don't even like democracy.

What Biden's withdrawal does is inject a death knell into the Repub ticket...

Trump is already toast - he's jail-bound once Judge Merchan issues his sentence on Sep 18th...you don't get parole for 34 felonies...ask John Gotti who had 22.

He's alienated the evangelicals, a huge portion of his base, with his life begins at conception never surrender pledge - which he then surrendered on...

Project 2025 and it's authoritarian view of the US will cling to him like his ear diaper...

He's a constant gaffe-machine, and it's only getting worse...he says its nice to be in Dallas when he's in Phoenix, and can't stop talking about sharks and a fictional movie character...

JD Vance isn't helping him - MAGA-world isn't taking to a guy educated at Yale and who was/is a Globalist. and whose wife doesn't believe in Jesus.

It's a a total disaster - thank goodness...

im worried about our democracy and the sanctity of a vote at a ballot box.

aren’t you?

Or is that suddenly inconvenient and “the party leaders” just pick the candidate?

You're not worried about it, Republicans are investing a lot of money to have Republicans monitor voting for Democrats and other Republicans. Totally fair right? That's democracy for ya

Ah so throwing out ONLY 14 million votes is still considered as supporting democracy and the voices of all those voters.

Was it supporting Democracy when the GOP pledged their "unwavering" support behind Trump and cancelled the 2020 primaries?

our system works only when Barack Obama’s vote and my vote are counted,

Except when the EC decides otherwise and you're fine with that.

So “the party” will choose?

Just like the GOP when they cancelled the primaries and fledged their full support to Trump.

man, much democracy is soooio complicated for Democrats when it doesn’t get them what they “want”

Same with you. You seem so, so upset that the oldest presidential candidate in US history now has to run against Kamala Harris.

Seems like most Democrat supporters are perfectly fine with this since they just recorded $46.7 in small donor donations today. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/biden-drops-out-updates/?id=112113289

And before you snark, no Biden didn't embolden them. Nice try.

Ramsey's KitchenToday 02:47 pm JST

Trump didn't have to defend NATO and Taiwan against an emboldened set of dictators last time.

When was NATO and Taiwan attacked? Which reliable TV channel should we turn on ? Is this breaking news as we speak?

Intelligent people plan for attacks that might happen.

Ramsey's Kitchen

"Scaremongering nonsense.The world did just fine last time Trump was POTUS ....Well, he did get thrown out by the US electorate after one term."

Then there is nothing for the left crowd to worry about, if the American public is not happy at the end of his term they will vote him out again. Sounds democratic enough. And the world will still be fine. ( actually better, as Donny will end the conflicts Joe has enabled ).

Sound democratic enough, but there is one problem. Trump tried to steal the election last time. Now, he has been indicted for this, but the trial is unlikely to be heard before the election.

The voters deserve to know the threat to democracy that Trump is. Therefore the trial should be held before the election.

it seems that rebadged 2020hindsights getting hot here again ... maybe its about time to close this thread?

guy needs to take a break.also taiwan as well.

mod?

Contrarian gave up?

BlacklabelToday 03:06 pm JST

Gonna be a fun next hundred days. Democrats won’t even have a nominee or a VP candidate conformed until 10 weeks before election.

tickety, tockety.

Are you going to place a wager on that?

bass4funkToday 03:17 pm JST

Now forcing Biden out will probably have major repercussions on the down-ballots in November and hurt vulnerable Democrats, but hey, they wanted this.

Karma

He says with no evidence whatsoever.

Kamala Harris is an even worse word-salad generator than Joe Biden is.

More like bigger threat to Trump agenda than Biden is

Now forcing Biden out will probably have major repercussions on the down-ballots in November and hurt vulnerable Democrats, but hey, they wanted this.

MAGA-political-predictions...because they're always so accurate. Just ask Dr Oz and Heschel Walker...

Karma

It's Kamala - what is it with MAGA-world and female names; Jean and Marla, Nancy and Nikki, Melania and Mercedes...

Another example of what they think of women...not much...

IF, and it’s a big if now, is elected President in November he MAY make some phone calls but I suspect he will end the Gaza and Ukraine wars about the same time Mexico pays for his wall!

By any objective measure, everything under Biden has become demonstrably worse.

Yea, just look at the stock market....

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/dow-hits-all-time-high-broader-market-rally-2024-07-12/

And this one didn't age well did it...

"Between August and October of 2020 alone, Trump sent six tweets saying the market would “crash” if Joe Biden were elected president. He made a similar warning in an October 2020 debate with Biden.

That forecast proved comically false."

"Comically" - as with all things MAGA-world...

ROFL...

Kamala Harris is an even worse word-salad generator than Joe Biden is.

Nahhh That's not true. And she's certainly better spoken then Trump :)

The Democrats used Biden like a pawn

What a weird way to describe the president. lmao Would that be an apt description of what Trump's billionaire backers will be doing if we're all unfortunate enough for him to win?

There's no good objective reason, based on Biden's job performance, to vote for any of them.

I'd say not being a fascist is pretty compelling. Also, the fact their not stupid enough to support getting rid of the income tax, and using tariffs to fund the government. That was pretty stupid, and you don't even need to be a lefty to get that.

Take the L, let the guy who's already run the country well for four years (and who would've sailed to re-election in 2020 if not for the COVID) do it again, and regroup for next time.

lol Yes, he ran the country so well we tossed him to the curb in 2020. About to the same in 2024.

Many international leaders across the world are praising Biden for his presidency and more than 50 years of public service.

I read about that too, only Putin would praise Trump probably lol

i am. That’s our electoral process for presidential elections.

Ah, so sometimes it is, in fact, okay to ignore the will of the people? Got it.

BlacklabelToday 02:36 pm JST

Except when the EC decides otherwise and you're fine with that.

i am. That’s our electoral process for presidential elections.

You know, the Constitution and all that.

The Constitution doesn't dictate it be winner take all. That's the corrupt nonsense we have been left with as a country.

WHY has Joe dropped out after claiming for weeks only the Lord Almighty could force this?

where is Joe? Have we heard from Joe? Was he forced out? 

Relax, he's at home recuperating - and laughing at all the far-right "coup" gaslighting...

so how will those delegates decide who to select when there are no votes to dictate who they pick?

a delegate represents voters.

No voters, no delegate.

So now we're getting "delegate lectures" from someone who for three years has steadily defended slates of "fraudulent, fake electors" being submitted.....oh my...

You know, the Constitution and all that.

Indeed - the Constitution Trump has said on record he would "terminate"...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-rebuked-for-call-to-terminate-constitution-over-2020-election-results

so you lost the vote for a change you wanted?

lol No. Most people are in favor of it. The problem is it takes 2/3 of both houses of congress to pass a constitutional amendment.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/25/majority-of-americans-continue-to-favor-moving-away-from-electoral-college/

so we actually can have both, when two things are different and scored differently.

lol No. That would make one a hypocrite. I mean you can be a hypocrite, but obviously you're not actually concerned at all about democracy.

Quo PrimumToday 03:03 pm JST

You mean the wars, trade disputes, and other foreign policy challenges that were not going on under Trump's watch?

In all three of those areas, and in many other areas, things are demonstrably worse under Biden than they were under Trump.

Not even debatable.

There were tons of trade wars under Dump and of course an adversary will hold off on launching wars while they have an asset in the oval office.

10 weeks is also plenty of time. Other countries do their entire election in that much time.

Gonna be a fun next hundred days. Democrats won’t even have a nominee or a VP candidate conformed until 10 weeks before election

Plenty of time for Trump to make a royal fool of himself like usual.

Ramsey's KitchenToday 03:06 pm JST

"Well Trump's attempt to steal the election failed. Next time it may not."

Many things "may" happen. It all sounds very very scary, but US "may" just end up being fine. Have more faith in the American people and system.

We'd have considerably more confidence in that statement if it didn't come from an anti-American.

Gonna be a fun next hundred days.

Sure is - daily doses of the Trump gaffe machine..."my opponent Nikki... I mean Nancy....er, Marla...ah...that's right, it's Obama"...

Until Sep 18th...then we'll be treated to the biggest MAGA-meltdown since Jan 6th...

Democrats won’t even have a nominee or a VP candidate conformed until 10 weeks before election.

Repubs will have theirs in jail on Sep 19th...and who will run with JD then, "Groomer" Ron DeSoros?

tickety, tockety.

Says Judge Merchan...

Biden stepping down will show how fatally flawed the current Repub ticket is...

You have Trump who will be sentenced to jail on Sept 18th when Judge Merchan finally adjudicates his NY case, who has flipped on his "life begins at conception" stance which has enraged the evangelicals who will stay home in droves rather than voting for a "baby killer", and then you have the constant gaffes where he can't remember which city he is in or which candidate he is running against. There is no doubt he will confuse Indian-American Kamala Harris with Indian-American Nikki Haley. He can't even keep his ex and current wives straight.

Then you have JD Vance who will get asked every interview why he thought Trump was similar to Hitler. Then there is his whole career as a "global capitalist" and "liberal indoctrination at Yale". And the far-right "Great Replacement" crazies are already out insulting his wife.

The current Repub ticket is going to go up in smoke...but as I'm with Team Blue, I say "stick to your guns" - though figuratively, not literally...given their history of violence, you have to clarify that in MAGA-world....

it was. The delegates chose the person who received the most votes from voters.

No. More than half a dozen states cancelled their primaries. No one voted in GOP primaries in those states.

BlacklabelToday 02:43 pm JST

Oh? Then why have we always done it this way and why hasn’t your team changed it?

A bunch of liberal states have signed up for the National Popular Vote, but as with everything good in this world, knuckledraggers are intent on there being no positive change.

Oh? Then why have we always done it this way and why hasn’t your team changed it?

That is irrelevant. You can criticize democrats for not "respecting the will of the voters" whilst simultaneously embrace a system that does just that. You can have one, but not both.

Well, he did get thrown out by the US electorate after one term."

Joe got thrown out….by his own party…6 months before completing one term.

Really? So Biden is not only stepping down from running, he RESIGNED the Presidency and Harris is now President?

Where did you get this news nugget? The QAnon boards?

Oh? Then why have we always done it this way and why hasn’t your team changed it?

You really asked that question?

Ramsey's Kitchen

"Well Trump's attempt to steal the election failed. Next time it may not."

Many things "may" happen. It all sounds very very scary, but US "may" just end up being fine. Have more faith in the American people and system.

So you are OK with a president stealing an election? I will tell you, most voters are not.

Quo Primum

Trump tried to steal the election last time.

No he didn't.

Then why was he indicted for it?

He legally challenged the results -- just like Democrats named Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton all did previously.

I'm talking about the fake electors.

Democrats tried to remove Trump from the ballots in several states -- but now you have the gall to say that HE is the threat to democracy???

No they didn't.

The media also covered up the Hunter Biden laptop story -- polls showed that anywhere from 12% to 17% of Biden's voters would NOT have voted for him if they'd known about that.

Had they known what? Because the laptop has been known about for a long time and it has only revealed nude photos of Hunter. Hardly something that would change an election.

*if Trump is elected…

nothing uncertain, i think all the world leaders already knew it, their intels shall already told them who is the next POTUS, actually even normal civilians like us already can tell who is the next. All the policy shall shift forward and focus on Trump now

Biden's withdrawal injects uncertainty into wars, trade disputes and other foreign policy challenges

In other words, his legacy ain’t pretty. Six more months… (!).

Blacklabel

he is releasing them.

so how will those delegates decide who to select when there are no votes to dictate who they pick?

a delegate represents voters.

No voters, no delegate.

So “the party” will choose?

man, much democracy is soooio complicated for Democrats when it doesn’t get them what they “want”

I suggest you get a copy of the DNC rules, because you really do seem confused by the process when a candidate leaves the race.

Stop asking questions and find out for yourself. Google is your friend.

Israeli war hawks would probably love to see the Trump-Jared duo back pushing for more housing and land for Israelis, so would the global arms makers

Tell me what your party is doing for Palestine.

First of all there are now less uncertainties, because it shows that democracy still works well and even those people at the highest and most fortified power position and trying to keep it at all cost can finally be replaced if turning out completely incapable.

Ramsey's Kitchen

"Untrue. The biggest threat to democracy is Trump."

Scaremongering nonsense.The world did just fine last time Trump was POTUS , it will not come to an end next time either.

Well Trump's attempt to steal the election failed. Next time it may not.

Biden v Trump not even a contest.

But America under Trump v all the broken orders and evil alliances around the world, I'm not sure an America first (ie with no alliances) is a safe place to be - politics aside....

bass4funk

Now forcing Biden out will probably have major repercussions on the down-ballots in November and hurt vulnerable Democrats, but hey, they wanted this.

Biden wasn't forced out. It was his own decision.

A smart move, would have been saving for the DNC convention, a planned Biden/Kamala razzamatazz step down tear jerker.

Father time ran out, caught up , creating a huge moment of contemplation, leading to a staged political beauty contest, an introduction for the next generation of candidates ascending to become the democrat nominee.

A once in a political lifetime moment, signalling a complete break with every traditional mundane mediocrity "show runner" before.

Admitting mistakes having been made, out with the old gracefully, bring forth, "trumpeting" in the new beginning.

It has to be spontaneous, George Clooney MC, Barbra Streisand in full irony, giving it all, The Way We Were completely devoid of fakery as Joe/Jill Biden appears to announce his step down.

Joe Biden martyrdom presented as a sacrifice to the cause of being an American, Joe in the throws of cognitive decline stood aside selflessly for a brave new world of personal sacrifice to make America kind again.

................................................................................................................................................................. I feel a film, a statue, a memoir.

A Joeus Christ moment, all is forgiven.

Plenty of time for Trump to make a royal fool of himself like usual.

The Democrats used Biden like a pawn, and in so doing made him go out and make himself look like a fool for three and a half years. Anyone else doing that would be charged with elder abuse.

"Like usual"? I'm not sure which part of Trump's previous presidency you disliked more -- the peace or the prosperity.

Jobs. Inflation. Gas prices in particular. The southern border. Energy independence. Afghanistan. The Israel/Palestine situation. The Russia/Ukraine situation.

None of these were a particular problem when Trump was president before.

By any objective measure, everything under Biden has become demonstrably worse.

Biden did the right thing but very late now. They’ll properly nominate Harris and she’ll lose by a landslide. Harris won’t have won the Democrats primaries against all the other top contenders if it was to be held today ( she was really poor in the 2020 democratic primaries ). But Bidens failure to not seek reelection much earlier has really complicated things ( he kept saying I’m the nominee until a few days ago )!

Now the party will just go with Harris and she will definitely lose.

Only a charismatic guy such as Gov. Newsom or someone similar to him can beat Trump. This is due to the fact that it’s not the popular votes that selects the president but infact the 4 swing states. The voters in the 4 swing states will not vote for Harris at all.

GuruMick is on fire today. Seriously I reckon SouthPark will make a series out of recent events and the run up to the election.

Ken

it seems that you have a lot of ... knowledge.new russian specialist here?

Ken

It is true if Russia stayed in Russia there would be no war.

Thank you for your valuable words.

btw story is about something else.I mean abt Kamala s presidential victory/at least according to article/...

There is a high probability Trump is profoundly unintelligent and the MAGA movement is a faith based threat to democracy.

But it’s not, you’re wrong on both statements. Although, MAGA is definitely a threat to woke and gender bots, that’s not a bad thing.

His revivalist speeches are one sign and there could be a reason for his references to 'Hannibal Lecter' all the time. 

He’s spot on.

He is mixing up migrants seeking political 'asylum' with people getting out of insane 'asylums' and Hannibal Lecter!

No, he was accurately pointing out the insane damage the Dems and their anti-American legal policies are and have been.

This will be Trump's last chance to stand for election.

And now thankfully we have Vance just in case.

He so badly wanted to revenge Biden for his historical win in 2020 with the largest popular vote ever and losing the EC vote.

ROFL!!!!!

Now no revenge for Trump.

Today was the best revenge for Trump

Ken.

if topic is about UA daily victories at all fronts thread was closed long time ago.it seems that "new topic" like this one abt Kamal Harris is a different case.

its funny to see US experts discussion of both sides here,let me get my new bag of potato chips....

Kamala Harris is an even worse word-salad generator than Joe Biden is.

And she doesn't have age or dementia to offer as an excuse.

Now forcing Biden out will probably have major repercussions on the down-ballots in November and hurt vulnerable Democrats, but hey, they wanted this.

Karma

Most Americans, if asked if they are better off now than they were four years ago and if they answered honestly and objectively, would say no.

And they'd have every reason to.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats replace Biden with as their nominee. His or her basic policy positions and ideology won't be substantially different.

There's no good objective reason, based on Biden's job performance, to vote for any of them.

The "good" thing for "progressives" is that Trump will only be president for four years. He's constitutionally ineligible to run for another term in 2028.

So, "progressives," admit that you goofed this election up big-time. Take the L, let the guy who's already run the country well for four years (and who would've sailed to re-election in 2020 if not for the COVID) do it again, and regroup for next time.

By the way, Biden didn't even step to a microphone and personally announce that he was withdrawing from the race.

A written statement, which he almost certainly didn't even write and maybe didn't even know about, was posted on his Twitter account.

That's how he let the world know that he was pulling out.

How very, very odd.

Anyway, since Biden's job performance has been dismal and everything is demonstrably worse under his administration than under the previous one, and since any Democrat who replaces him will not substantially differ in policy or ideology ...

... there's no reason at all why anyone would or should shift their vote to him or her.

Trump 47.

He says with no evidence whatsoever.

Yeah?

More like bigger threat to Trump agenda than Biden is

When libs say statements like that, it’s always a fluke

Kamala Harris will be new US president click on +

Donald Trump will be new US president click on -

lets see.

The people voted for Joe Biden. If he is suddenly unwilling the people should get to vote again.

not just stuck with whoever Obama, Hollywood and some donors choose.

that’s not democracy. At all. In the end it was just projection as always, Democrats are really the “threat to democracy”

but but Hannibal’s lectern or hulk hogan or something lol

Well, he did get thrown out by the US electorate after one term."

Joe got thrown out….by his own party…6 months before completing one term.

You mean the wars, trade disputes, and other foreign policy challenges that were not going on under Trump's watch?

In all three of those areas, and in many other areas, things are demonstrably worse under Biden than they were under Trump.

Not even debatable.

Trump tried to steal the election last time.

No he didn't. He legally challenged the results -- just like Democrats named Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton all did previously.

And when his legal challenges were exhausted, he relinquished the presidency and vacated the White House.

The voters deserve to know the threat to democracy that Trump is. 

Anyway, who's a threat to democracy? The Democrats and their media cohorts were protecting Biden and covering up his cognitive decline for three and a half years.

The voters deserved to know that too, but it was hidden from them.

Democrats tried to remove Trump from the ballots in several states -- but now you have the gall to say that HE is the threat to democracy???

The media also covered up the Hunter Biden laptop story -- polls showed that anywhere from 12% to 17% of Biden's voters would NOT have voted for him if they'd known about that.

The voters deserved to know that too -- but Democrats and the media conspired to cover it up, in an undeniable case of election interference.

You "progressives" chant this "threat to democracy" line like a tired old mantra.

You fail to remember that Trump already was the president before. What exactly did he do during those four years to indicate he's a "threat to democracy"?

Biden and the Democrats are weaponizing the criminal justice system against their political opponents -- and not just against Trump either.

And what about student loan forgiveness? The Supreme Court ruled against it, but Biden is doing it anyway. How is Trump a "threat to democracy" when it's a Democrat president blatantly ignoring a Supreme Court ruling.

So please, enough of the "threat to democracy" nonsense. If anyone is such a threat, it's the Democrats. The Biden regime has exhibited that frequently over the past four years.

lol Yes, he ran the country so well we tossed him to the curb in 2020. About to the same in 2024.

How??? She polls worse than her boss!! Omg….lol

ok guys so who have better chance to be president?

The Republicans should drive the message every hour that Democrats just threw out all the votes from the much democracy aligned voting process.

in favor of what Hollywood, donors and Barack Obama want.

muh democracy!

Support for the Azovian regime's war on eastern Ukraine and Russia was always going to be uncertain during the next Presidency, if for no other reason than the survival of the Azovian regime's control over western Ukraine is uncertain over that time frame.

Support for the Israeli regime's wars on the ME and democracy was also going to be uncertain during the next Presidential term if the President is a Democrat and even more so, because of the uncertainty of the Israeli regime's survival over that time frame if the President is Trump.

America's wars on Iraq and Syria were also likely to end, either in a peace deal followed by a retreat, a retreat followed by a peace deal, or just a retreat.

I find the types who believe conspiracy theories about massive voter fraud when they don’t get the result they like are a problem.

The same can be said about people denying it.

Just to be clear, are you on board with all the claims of massive voter fraud in the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections

I’m listening

Is that the supply they add all the Kool Aid too ?

Near, crystal clear

Just to be clear, are you on board with all the claims of massive voter fraud

I believe there was a massive fraud perpetrated on voters in the 2024 Democrat primary. Don’t you??

He needs to show his abilities first.

He has.

Truth hurts

If You believe it, then go right ahead. ROFL!

Now no revenge for Trump.

Today was the best revenge for Trump

Trump will be very disappointed today that forever he was historically defeated by Biden.

Again, you go ahead and think that. Lol

Trump will bring in a new era of peace -MAGA!

You can have one, but not both.

primaries are not contested under electoral college and are not winner take all. neither are House or Senate elections.

so we actually can have both, when two things are different and scored differently.

Gonna be a fun next hundred days. Democrats won’t even have a nominee or a VP candidate conformed until 10 weeks before election.

tickety, tockety.

I assume we can use Texas's water to do it, then.

Yup!

support he continues in the election race.

no I support muh democracy! The democratic process of respecting our voting process that lets the people select their nominee at the ballot box.

Democrats are a threat to democracy because they undermined the will of the voters.

Putin is the bully, Zelensky is the kid tired of being bullied and finally standing up for himself. Zelensky would have never attacked Putin first. 

Again, Zelenskyy has his own dark history, 2sides of the same coin. Again, I will be happy when this comes to an end. I’m a US taxpayer and I have the right to decide where my money goes. I want it to stay in the U.S. not go to Ukraine.

I feel like your side comes off as someone who doesn't understand what's going on like the propaganda says so and you believe it no questions asked

No, I’m just an American first Nationalist.

They are now free to choose a new candidate.

A new candidate based on what? based on the vote of the people? People chose Biden. How will delegates chose? Whoever they perform want?

Or based on who Obama, the party and donors demand? Not the people who voted.

No, but thanks for worrying about Democrats. How kind of you.

im worried about our democracy and the sanctity of a vote at a ballot box.

aren’t you?

Or is that suddenly inconvenient and “the party leaders” just pick the candidate?

Ah so throwing out ONLY 14 million votes is still considered as supporting democracy and the voices of all those voters.

is there a bottom limit to how many disenfranchised and bait and switched voters make it “matter”?

our system works only when Barack Obama’s vote and my vote are counted, both as 1 each.

Exactly like what happened in 2020 when Trump was the incumbant. There were no GOP primaries.

Trump got the most votes and was selected the nominee. Voters decided.

who got the most votes in the 2024 Democrat primary? Will he be the nominee? If not, why not?

WHY has Joe dropped out after claiming for weeks only the Lord Almighty could force this?

where is Joe? Have we heard from Joe? Was he forced out? If not, What’s the reason? Most popular president with the most votes (supposedly) in human history. So why?

Does the reason he dropped out also prevent him from being president from today?

Was it supporting Democracy when the GOP pledged their "unwavering" support behind Trump and cancelled the 2020 primaries? 

it was. The delegates chose the person who received the most votes from voters.

yep.

No. More than half a dozen states cancelled their primaries. No one voted in GOP primaries in those states.

no one voted for Kamala Harris as President.

But who received the most votes in the entire 2020 Republican primary?

had these states not been cancelled your position is someone else would have been the nominee?

quite different from Joe winning the vote and being replaced by someone who got zero votes.

it seems that rebadged 2020hindsights getting hot here again ... maybe its about time to close this thread?

guy needs to take a break.also taiwan as well.

mod?

Trump's speech at the RNC gives us insight into the type of presidency he wants.

or the 4 years he was actually successfully the President would give you a clue. lol

Blacklabel

exactly.

You live in Japan, you're on a news page in Japan. Try a more neutral page and see which side people lean more towards.

But I’m an American, I’m neutral from that standpoint

AKA something not Maga or Fox

Always

One angle that is not being covered in full yet is the cash - meaning campaign finance rules. Follow the money.

By getting someone to step into Biden's shoes it sidesteps this issue and makes transferring funds from the incumbent president to his running mate possible during the election cycle.

Except when the EC decides otherwise and you're fine with that.

i am. That’s our electoral process for presidential elections.

You know, the Constitution and all that.

Oh? Then why have we always done it this way and why hasn’t your team changed it?

After the Trump attempted assassination Biden stated with empathy and kind words calling him Donald.

And?

Biden decides to stand down and Trump issues insults.

So did Biden a few hours later after he gave his fake olive branch and then started the next day

After the assassination attempt, Trump called for unity but it didn't last long.

We can’t be united, not going to happen, BUT, we can be civil

Trump issued his statement on Truth Social, writing, "Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was!"

He’s right.

He will be the Neville Chamberlain of our era. 

To the left I’m sure of it.

"neutral"?

Absolutely.

Fox/Maga would support Putin before they support any Democrat.

I think Zelenskyy and Putin are two sides of the same coin.

"Putting America first" is just a slogan not the way they live life

And Trump will make that happen, you made my as to why so many people are leaving the DNC

he is releasing them.

so how will those delegates decide who to select when there are no votes to dictate who they pick?

a delegate represents voters.

No voters, no delegate.

So “the party” will choose?

man, much democracy is soooio complicated for Democrats when it doesn’t get them what they “want”

Trump not intelligent enough to be POTUS.

Most of the voters don’t think so.

I'd like a reporter to ask a serious economic policy question, and use terms like Macro and Micro economics , terms Trump is unfamiliar with.

How would you know, of course he knows, he’s in the real estate business

I doubt the man has read a serious book in his lifetime.

Can you prove that?

Cunning yes...intelligent no.

He best the libs for the last 8 years and now he’s on top, I would consider that smart and cunning

And famously, he is incapable of listening generally and specifically, listening to advice from experts.

Good, that means he’s not a puppet controllable establishment tool, got my vote.

Former Homeland Security head said Trump once posed the idea of a 2000 mile MOAT on the Mexican border , filled with snakes and alligators.

Interesting, I like the idea

Harris has not even begun her campaign for the number one office but she already has some canny, humanitarian foreign policy accomplishments to show. 

And none of Biden’s delegates

Overall I think foreign leaders , especially in Western Europe with rich, successful democratic socialist traditions look at Trump's rhetoric labeling all opposition 'far-left, radical, socialist, marxist' and shake their heads. 

And since they all like the smell of our Benjamin’s they will buckle, they always do

They see how Trump and his MAGA supporters label efforts to improve lives like universal healthcare, low cost education, stable social safety nets and sensible gun legislation as far-left Marxist conspiracies. 

Yes, they see how Americans care about their self-interests just like any normal sovereign nation should.

The MAGA corporate funded shifting of the Overton Window in America could be set to cause even more misery.

Not to the capitalist job creators help keep the economy going.

A bunch of liberal states have signed up for the National Popular Vote, but as with everything good in this world, knuckledraggers are intent on there being no positive change.

so you lost the vote for a change you wanted?

sounds like “democracy” to me!

You don't like Democrats, what does it matter to you?

They also live in the U.S., believe it or not.

Trump also had his major failures like no Trumpcare and the southern wall.

The wall will be completed without a single doubt.

The world will not have to worry next January with Trump at the helm.

How will Trump end the Gaza war which has been going on for decades? Or stop Russia from invading countries. Will Trump lift the sanctions against Putin?

Wait until we get there.

No insights then

I’m not running for office, don’t need to, as long as he focuses on America first, I’m stoked.

Only a charismatic guy such as Gov. Newsom or someone similar to him can beat Trump. This is due to the fact that it’s not the popular votes that selects the president but infact the 4 swing states. The voters in the 4 swing states will not vote for Harris at all.

That should go very well over with the Black community, skipping over the VP, Harris, the first woman of color over a white slick-haired dude. There would be an internal civil war not to mention the alienation of Black voters