Biden says U.S. will act decisively if Russia invades Ukraine

President Biden underscored the commitment of the United States and its allies and partners to the principle of 'nothing about you without you,'" she said.

Sounds like some really high level policy of some sophistication.

The European Union plus UK must act decisively to, with armed forces fully support US Government.

No more negotiation, that is over.

The actions now will have huge ramifications to the Government of China geo-political seizure of Taiwan.

Any whiff of appeasement could set a chain of events that could provoke a war.

A World War..

As a global community devoted to democratic freedoms we all have to act as one.

Not matter what the cost.

The Government of Russia, China have to be faced down.

A deterrent must be focused.

There can be no running and hiding. Cowering behind the sofa.

As a global community devoted to democratic freedoms we all have to act as one.

Would those democratic freedoms include the right of areas in the Ukraine with ethnic Russian majorities to decide their own futures?

President Biden underscored the commitment of the United States and its allies and partners to the principle of 'nothing about you without you,'" she said.

Sounds like some really high level policy of some sophistication.

More sophisticated than; At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections. "President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," he replied.

Russian troops could be standing in Kyiv, and Putin would tell Trump "they aren't there" - and Trump would say "I believe him"....

Or maybe they both would say they were just "tourists"....

The problem is that no one is afraid of Joe Biden whatsoever. And he has no real mandate or support for anything he says or does. Has no track record of being able to get done what he says he will do.

dont you think Putin can read? Pretty sure he can.

Biden walks on eggshells as approval sinks, far-left loses confidence, and GOP 'ready to pounce'

One progressive strategist said Biden is 'deeply unpopular' and 'old as sh--.'

Biden says U.S. will act decisively if Russia invades Ukraine

I do not think the US or anyone else will back up Ukraine militarily which is the one thing it needs and the one threat that may have a chance to stop a Russian invasion. Economic sanctions will not deter let alone stop Russia from hostile action.

Nobody wants another war, let alone a major conflict or WWIII but there comes a point when you have to make clear that going further will elicit a military reply. China will look to see if Russia can invade Ukraine without a military response from the US to help it determine it's chances of a successful invasion of Taiwan, also without a direct US military response.

These despotic leaders keep pushing until they come up against force to stop them. Hitler kept pushing and pushing and taking more and more until the invasion of Poland where the UK and France drew the line. WWII ensued. The free world must inform both Russia and China where the line is, and if crossed will force a military conflict likely to draw the globe into hell. Only then will they take pause to their militarily forced territorial expansions.

Let us hope cooler heads can keep conflict away from the world as WWIII now will only ensure no ability to deal with the global climate crisis, and mean an end to our civilization and perhaps life itself on the planet.

albaleo, "democratic freedoms" or the threat of invasion and war?

Do you think you we should just set a line and if they cross it then WWIII?

Cut off that Pipeline that Biden approved for Putin?

what kind of sanctions can Biden realistically do that would Putin actually care about?

i don’t have the answer, it’s the common problem of trying to get something done from a position of known weakness. Not so easy.

he has no real mandate or support for anything he says or does

Well that is as inaccurate as it gets. Biden had more than seven million more people vote for him over Trump in the election. His party currently controls both the house and the senate. And his electoral college win was a landslide victory. I dont see how anyone could say he has no mandate when it is as strong a mandate as you can get in the US system.

He may not be as popular as other presidents, although he is more popular than the previous president, but he does have a mandate at least until the 2022 mid terms.

The trouble is US politics has become so "us versus them" that bipartisanship is rare and getting more rare.

The Ukraine needs more support than economic sanctions against Russia but the US is unable to give what is needed due to internal struggles. That makes it less likely the EU will get involved as it will not do so without the US participation.

Peter14Today  08:19 pm JST

The Ukraine needs more support than economic sanctions against Russia but the US is unable to give what is needed due to internal struggles. That makes it less likely the EU will get involved as it will not do so without the US participation.

I think you are grossly underestimating the United States. But of course you would hardly be the first.

Do you think you we should just set a line and if they cross it then WWIII?

Cut off that Pipeline that Biden approved for Putin?

what kind of sanctions can Biden realistically do that would Putin actually care about?

i don’t have the answer, it’s the common problem of trying to get something done from a position of known weakness. Not so easy.

More of the mountain of examples of the far-right and Trump supporters backing Putin rather than their own government - just like his BFF who says he "believes" Putin more than he believes Don Jr or Eric...

Not surprising when their favorite far-right channel and talking head suck up to Putin too...

https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-says-russia-right-defend-ukraine-border-2021-12

MAGA world is full of Putin-worshippers...because like him, they hate democracy and prefer authoritarianism...

By “decisively” does he mean war? America is great at starting a war and poor at stopping them. All war will achieve is tens of thousands of deaths, perhaps hundreds of thousands or in the millions if a few nuclear bombs are thrown in for good measure. In the end people will needlessly die and then peace will be brokered. So, cut out the war bit and start negotiating peacefully right now. War is over if you want.

By “decisively” does he mean war?

I’m happy to see that at least Someone “gets it”….

what exactly is being threatened and can it/should it reasonably be done?

What are the choices when President Putin has an invasion force on your doorstep.

It is Putin that threatens apocalypse.

Two dictators, just two men, are threatening global catastrophic, oblivion.

Stand up to them.

Mr. Biden is bluffing. His national security team has told him that state-sponsored hackers (Mr. Putin will deny they are Russian government employees) will take down the flimsy American power grid and their internet. (They have already done similar things in message attacks and dry runs.) He knows such actions will end his presidency and he will be forced to resign amidst the chaos in the USA. So at best we can expect some strongly worded demarche to be offered. "America is back!" (as in 'back down').

Whatever your political beliefs, left liberal right, it is now time to make a choice together.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday he feared that Putin was intent on invading Ukraine and “nothing other than a level of sanctions that Russia has never seen will deter him.”

“Russia needs to understand we are united in this,” Schiff told “Face the Nation" on CBS. ”I also think that a powerful deterrent is the understanding that if they do invade, it is going to bring (NATO) closer to Russia, not push it farther away."

Here is the bottom line

It actually is.

his “tactics” are so poor that….im gonna use those same exact tactics against him…to defeat him?

Gee, what an expert military tactician - so when did you graduate from West Point?

said no one, ever.

That would be anyone saying the 2020 election was rigged...

anyway, let’s go Brandon!

Love it when the MAGA-muffins use this - proof positive that they failed kindergarten...and have been exiled to the playground...