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A border wall is part of the solution, but not the only part. A virtual wall makes sense in desolate areas, but a real wall makes sense in more populated areas, if only as a way to redirect people to the end of the wall for their illegal attempts to cross.

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If you don't increase BPA along the border that what you said is true. Now, look at Hungary, they don't have that problem, now why is that? Because they are serious about national sovereignty 

well there goes the defund the Feds argument.

or is that limited to feds scrutinizing the former guy? Nope, nothing questionable about that at all…

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Coastguards patrol the ocean, not the 2,000-mile-long border.

The Coasties are responsible for navigation safety on inland waterways and the Great Lakes.

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I do fault Biden for not being straight up about this Wall construction requirement from the get go. Perhaps Mayorkas neglected to tell him? I don’t know, but he/they should have been straight up about it 2 years ago.

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What a complete and total farce. Of course, Biden could have completed it, he unilaterally stopped it.

its not a farce at all. He’s respecting the separation of powers by building a section of wall that was already congressionally mandated. He has not agreed to build a wall with flesh penetrating spikes and a serpent and gator filled trench from Brownsville to San Ysidro.

did Trump ever consider that gators can’t survive in the Sonora desert? Silly me, he could just import Nile Crocodiles! They like the desert and they like to eat people! Of course, they are just as likely to eat Americans fishing on the Rio Grande, but hey gotta make some sacrifices to keep the baddies out.

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“Show me a 10 foot wall and I’ll show you a shop on the other side of it selling an 11 foot high ladder.”

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I do

No, you clearly don’t.

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So you believe there should be a Canadian-American wall? 

Now, yes.

That’s some distance. Who’s going to pay for it?

Remember you reverted back to being a fiscal conservative after Trump left office and you believe Biden has already added 39 trillion to the debt.

Make Canada pay?

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Bob Fosse

Comparing the Berlin Wall to the U.S./Mexico border is ludicrous. Absolutely insane.

Isn't it just. And the Israeli Wall. The Great Wall of China. Hadrian Wall. The Yellow Brick Road.

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Yes, Germany had the wall under control, Mexico doesn't.

You really don’t actually know what the Berlin Wall was do you? That’s clear.

Look at an old map of it. It’ll be an eye opener for you.

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Throwing good money at the "Great Wall of Amerika" is Biden's contribution to employment for blue-collar voters and/or his endorsement of "la vida loca".

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We know that and now even Democrats are telling this guy to stop because their cities are out of control and they are kicking American citizens, and vets out of their care facilities to make room for these illegals. That is just insane!

That is a bald faced lie and you know it. I'm a veteran and use the VA system regularly so I know what you are alleging is simply not true. My experience with immigrants is that they make far fewer demands on public services than overweight, diabetic and drug addicted born in the good ol' USA Americans.

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You never answered my question, You do the typical liberal throwing in the racist dodge component. So once again, would you allow a dozen or so illegals to live with you? Would you keep your doors open? Should you even have locks or fences since you believe they all don't work, right?

In my own life in my own city my concerns are not illegal immigrants. The ones I know work hard, are family oriented and don't do crime. The make no demands asking only for a chance to work and earn some money, a surprising amount (to me) is sent home. They live poor so they can save money. They are like my grandparents. And they are disparaged for racial and ethnic reasons just like my grandparents were.

They are not the drug addicts stealing my mail. They are not speeding and yakking on their cell phone before they rear end my and darn near total my restored vintage car. Now that was a nice wealthy white lady. It is not illegal immigrants street racing or doing white collar crime. It is not an illegal immigrant trying to tell me my attic furnace is responsible for the holes in the roof of a condo I rent or telling me it my window frame that is causing the leak above the window frame, though it might be an illegal immigrant who fixes the holes causing my problems. Depends on who the HOA hires and they hire the cheapest labor they can find but the property manager currently making my life miserable was born in the US. I don't have any problems with legal or illegal immigrants. None. Without them food isn't harvested, homes are not built or repaired, cars are not washed, etc. The real villains, to me, are the born in the US employers who exploit them and mistreat them. Those employers who abuse immigrants for their own profit are the lowest of the low, not for hiring illegal immigrants but for taking advantage of them.

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It is important to keep undesirable’s out. 

Proving this is more about racism than any other consideration. I heard the same said of my grandparents. I have no respect for that kind of bigotry

Nope, this is about stopping the ones coming in illegally, If they come in legally than no one has any problem.

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Separation of powers after all, good to see that unlike his predecessor Biden does not think being president is the same as being fuhrer or king.

I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with completing the wall?

uhhhh…ok, I guess? Well, good news for you is DT already explained that, above your question. As in, your question was already answered.

the fact is Congress appropriated tax dollars for a specific purpose and under Federal law the Executive Branch must obligate that money for the purpose it was appropriated.

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It is important to keep undesirable’s out. 

Proving this is more about racism than any other consideration. I heard the same said of my grandparents. I have no respect for that kind of bigotry.

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Evidently the Biden administration border control policy is a failure.

Look at the double border fences around the Spanish enclave of Ceuta on the Moroccan coast. Both fences are 6 meters tall topped with razor wire. They are routinely breached by large groups of North African migrants. Thinking any wall is going to prevent immigrants from crossing ones border is the equivalent to urinating into a very stiff breeze. A border wall also does nothing to address the large numbers of people who arrive on a valid visa and just overstay their visa. About 38% of illegal entries are from border crossers while 62% over stayed their visas. A border wall does not solve this problem. It is a waste of time and money.

The solution to the problem is not at the border but lies in the nations from which the immigrants are coming. Economic development in Mexico has greatly reduced the number of illegal entries from that nation. What you are seeing now are the poor from Central America mixed in with migrants from other places in Asia and Africa. The solution is to find ways to make their lives at least tolerable in their own nations so they don't feel the need to uproot and immigrate.

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If you don't increase BPA along the border that what you said is true. Now, look at Hungary, they don't have that problem, now why is that? Because they are serious about national sovereignty 

It appears that Slovakia perceives a problem with illegal migrants crossing its borders from Hungary.

https://apnews.com/article/slovakia-starts-border-check-hungary-migration-450831f11ecba3ddb859ccb65e72bb71

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The Coasties are responsible for navigation safety on inland waterways and the Great Lakes.

> Of course, they can.

The last time I looked, the Great Lakes were not on the southern border.

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Well, Desert doesn’t know what he’s talking about, I still remember in Germany. When we had the wall, that wall was in penetrable, and very few people made it across, very, very few, if a walk, and work in Germany, if you can work in Israel, if you can work in Hungary, then it can definitely work in the United States, there is no difference.

Germany didn't have a wall. The wall was in Berlin and built by East Germany. The Berlin Wall was a very short distance compared with the southern border.

"The Berlin Wall was not one wall, but two. Measuring 155 kilometres (96 miles) long and four metres (13 feet) tall, these walls were separated by a heavily guarded, mined corridor of land known as the 'death strip'."

So you want walls everywhere.

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bass4funk

No, it did not because there were West Germany and East Germany

> Still, Germany, thank you.

Nope. It was East Germany. You don't accept there were two separate countries?

and the wall belonged to East Germany. Two separate countries. History is important. Revisionism avoided.

> But the same country and the same history before they were divided. I should know.

Why should you know better than anyone else? Seems you don't.

It's important to remember East Germany for what it was and what it stood for. Especially since you are so anti-communist and anti-socialist.

West Germany never built the wall.

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bass4funkToday 12:07 pm JST

Nope. It was East Germany. You don't accept there were two separate countries?

> Question, What language did they speak in East Germany?

> Why should you know better than anyone else? Seems you don't.

> I do, I am half German

You need to learn the history.

It's important to remember East Germany for what it was and what it stood for. Especially since you are so anti-communist and anti-socialist.

> but the wall Worked, ask Roger Waters.

> West Germany never built the wall.

You do not accept there were two separate countries even if they spoke the same language. East Germany was part of the Soviet Union and controlled by them. The wall only existed in Berlin because the West hung onto the western half of the city. The wall was built by East Germany.

The Berlin Wall was built and belonged to East Germany/Soviet Union.

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Man, did he blow it, Even the Dems cannot believe what he did?

BS. Democratic legislators all know what the laws are regarding appropriations. So does every Republican lawmaker. And every one of those lawmakers know that had the Executive Branch refused to spend the money appropriated by Congress for the intended purpose he could have been sued and would have undoubtedly lost. For all you down voters, please read and understand the laws that govern what is known as Planning, Programming, Budgeting and Execution or PPBE to use the parlance of the Federal budget process. There are strict rules governing the process that have potentially big fines and prison sentences for will failure to comply. Presidents cannot just do what they want.

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The wall can't be completed ocean-to-ocean as Trump had stated.

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Oh, I know that, but it seems that this President is not aware of that, 

BS. He explained just what I explained. “The money was appropriated for the border wall,” Biden said. “I can’t stop that.”

however, all the Dems had to do when Biden....took office was to uphold the Trump border policies, that's it, and continue with them regarding the border wall construction, they didn't do that and from day one,

The current Congress is not obliged to continue the policies of a previous Congress. I personally do not want my tax money wasted on an ineffective border wall, and especially when eminent domain is used to take private land to do so, often cutting farms in two and locking farmers out of land they own south of the border wall.

They made their bed and now the rest of the nation is suffering because of their desire to replace the electorate 

And your real bottom line is the detestable and highly racist replacement theory.

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all the Dems had to do when Biden....took office was to uphold the Trump border policies,

Risible nonsense. Nobody would expect a Repubelicken President to uphold the policies of a Democratic predecessor but you get all butt hurt because a Democratic President isn't upholding the policies of your god Jupiter, the orange colored gas giant. We voted that SOB out to end those policies.

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bass4funk

So you are only half-American.

> Dual. So, again, what language do they speak in the former East German?

You were the one who said you were "half"

Comparing the Berlin Wall to the U.S./Mexico border is ludicrous. Absolutely insane.

> Yes, Germany had the wall under control, Mexico doesn't.

Germany did not control the Berlin Wall.

The UK is four countries but they all use English.

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Biden’s hypocrisy is amazing as his supporters are diving through hoops to defend him.

Hilarious!

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“there are only two things that have consistently worked, wheels, and walls!" Trump wrote”

The wheels of justice may be bringing him some new walls.

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God forbid money just goes unspent. That statement makes it clear his administration is trying to have it both ways.

Under current Federal budget laws that date to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 the Executive Branch is required to spend all money appropriated by Congress for the purpose it was appropriated. The Impoundment Control Act (ICA) of 1974 further limits the Executive Branches ability to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress for the purposes Congress intended.

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I found this article to be a total flop. For one, the defense of Biden is obvious: trying to portray Biden as simply following the rules and that the money and construction must simply go on to satisfy legislation. When in reality Mayorkas has destroyed that angle by stating that there is an acute and immediate need to build barriers in the vicinity of the border to prevent unlawful entries. So who’s lying here?

Neither. Mr. Mayorkas has his opinion but the fact is Congress appropriated tax dollars for a specific purpose and under Federal law the Executive Branch must obligate that money for the purpose it was appropriated. There is a very limited set of circumstances in which the Executive Branch may "re-program" and appropriation from one purpose to another and the dollar amounts are very limited. The fact in this matter is that a prior Congress tied this Presidents hands.

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President Biden must drop any semblance of pollical posturing, possible accusation of hypocrisy and either fully commit to a wall, or offer up credible policy alternatives.

Mayor Eric Adams says migrant crisis 'will destroy New York City'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLHRgAdQwqg

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Separation of powers after all, good to see that unlike his predecessor Biden does not think being president is the same as being fuhrer or king.

I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with completing the wall?

Neither. Mr. Mayorkas has his opinion but the fact is Congress appropriated tax dollars for a specific purpose and under Federal law the Executive Branch must obligate that money for the purpose it was appropriated. There is a very limited set of circumstances in which the Executive Branch may "re-program" and appropriation from one purpose to another and the dollar amounts are very limited. The fact in this matter is that a prior Congress tied this Presidents hands.

BS, the President could have continued the policy and completed the wall, but he didn't want to, Myorkas wouldn't enforce our laws, and look at the mess we are in now, I have a few friends that live very close to the border and they are beyond outraged that this admin allowed millions of illegals who are not vetted and mostly men to enter this country, it's a bit too late now and the damage has been done to the nation as a whole.

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That is where you increase Coast Guard patrol presence, and flood lights near and around those critical areas.

Coastguards patrol the ocean, not the 2,000-mile-long border.

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It isn't often that the construction workers speak English much farther from the border than anywhere in Texas. There is no way it will be different there.

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The last time I looked, the Great Lakes were not on the southern border.

Meaning, wherever the route is that illegals and drug cartels will use to sneak in people and drugs.

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bass4funk

The last time I looked, the Great Lakes were not on the southern border.

> Meaning, wherever the route is that illegals and drug cartels will use to sneak in people and drugs.

So you believe there should be a Canadian-American wall? Well, that is off-topic and not part of the discussion. Drugs cross into the US on the southern border.

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Germany didn't have a wall. The wall was in Berlin and built by East Germany.

Was it in Poland? The Netherlands? France? No and where is Berlin? Austria?

Of course, Germany had "The Wall"

The Berlin Wall was a very short distance compared with the southern border.

But it was still a wall and the majority of people could not cross it...successfully.

So you want walls everywhere.

No, along the Southern border.

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bass4funk

Germany didn't have a wall. The wall was in Berlin and built by East Germany.

> Was it in Poland? The Netherlands? France? No and where is Berlin? Austria?

> Of course, Germany had "The Wall"

No, it did not because there were West Germany and East Germany and the wall belonged to East Germany. Two separate countries. History is important. Revisionism avoided.

So you want walls everywhere.

No, along the Southern border.

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Man, did he blow it, Even the Dems cannot believe what he did?

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Proving this is more about racism than any other consideration.

You never answered my question, You do the typical liberal throwing in the racist dodge component. So once again, would you allow a dozen or so illegals to live with you? Would you keep your doors open? Should you even have locks or fences since you believe they all don't work, right?

I heard the same said of my grandparents. I have no respect for that kind of bigotry.

Well, not sure what you are talking about, I am not a bigot for starters, I don't like bigots and I don't like when Dems use it to bolster their weak arguments.

Look at the double border fences around the Spanish enclave of Ceuta on the Moroccan coast. Both fences are 6 meters tall topped with razor wire. They are routinely breached by large groups of North African migrants. Thinking any wall is going to prevent immigrants from crossing ones border is the equivalent to urinating into a very stiff breeze. A border wall also does nothing to address the large numbers of people who arrive on a valid visa and just overstay their visa. About 38% of illegal entries are from border crossers while 62% over stayed their visas. A border wall does not solve this problem. It is a waste of time and money.

Again, more excuses, the US is not the Moroccan coast, different society, different laws and customs and less modern technology implemented to stop the incursion, I don't know and frankly, I don't care, I am an American and ONLY care about what happens in my country. The rest is the typical lib dodge.

The solution to the problem is not at the border

Oh, yes, it is the border, start there and seal it. No exceptions.

but lies in the nations from which the immigrants are coming. Economic development in Mexico has greatly reduced the number of illegal entries from that nation.

Mexico has some of the toughest laws when it comes to immigration, what are you talking about?

https://www.philkentconsulting.com/wp/wordpress/?page_id=244

What you are seeing now are the poor from Central America mixed in with migrants from other places in Asia and Africa.

So let them come in legally, but this admin gave them the Okay to enter illegally.

The solution is to find ways to make their lives at least tolerable in their own nations so they don't feel the need to uproot and immigrate.

Yes, send illegals back, and tell them to come legally and tell them to apply or seek political asylum if they can prove it, other than that, all immigrants should go to the back of the line and wait, priority should be given to those that have followed our laws.

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Even I don't think a border wall is going to work, but at least it will employ ordinary Americans in a harmless project

It is not a harmless project when said fence cuts your farm in half and locks you out of the land you own between the fence and the Rio Grand River. That is real life for a lot of farms and ranches in Texas and why so many eminent domain cases from as far back as the Bush Jr. (Shrub) Administration remain disputed in the courts.

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Nope. It was East Germany. You don't accept there were two separate countries?

Question, What language did they speak in East Germany?

Why should you know better than anyone else? Seems you don't.

I do, I am half German

It's important to remember East Germany for what it was and what it stood for. Especially since you are so anti-communist and anti-socialist.

but the wall Worked, ask Roger Waters.

West Germany never built the wall.

But it was still Germany-Deutschland.

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Not true, I've talked to hundreds of border patrol agents and they've all stated that "bass4funk is wrong", so I'd much rather take their collective word over your individual word. 

Not sure what you are talking about, but I am talking about the BPA that testified under oath.

My opinion is more aligned with the truth

So the truth is, what the people that protect our borders say, not this WH that has a political agenda.

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Keepyer InternetpointsToday 10:02 am JST

@TaiwanIsNotChina

Not sure what people are complaining about.

Well since you don't look our trash up, how would you?

Aw, did I smudge your puma?

Oct. 5 01:03 am JST TaiwanisNotChina

I'm not going to look all of this trash up,

Why are you even here?

To take out the trash, of course.

Biden is a horrible president, in league with warmongering warprofiters so much that he is one of them. He has brought us to the brink of nuclear armagedon and squandered our future to squeeze profits out of the blood of Ukrainians.

Even I don't think a border wall is going to work, but at least it will employ ordinary Americans in a harmless project. Better to finish it than stoke the fires of needless foreign wars and instigate them.

You shouldn't even be voting in an election of a country you want to see destroyed.

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“As I have stated often, over thousands of years, there are only two things that have consistently worked, wheels, and walls!" Trump wrote on his social media platform. "Will Joe Biden apologize to me and America for taking so long to get moving ... I will await his apology!”

Really Donald, the apology should be coming from you - along with a letter of thanks...

Who promised 62 times in 2016 to "build a big beautiful wall" and have "Mexico pay for it" - and then failed in four years to do both?

And just how many illegal immigrants would have been stopped if you had kept your word and built your wall?

Joe is fulfilling the promise you made - and didn't keep....

Send him a note of thanks - and maybe a Chinese-made Trump Collection tie...

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Biden is checking all of my boxes to be the perfect president.

ROFL

Not sure what people are complaining about

How much time do you have?

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Honestly, I think Biden does owe an apology to Americans, but I don’t think he has enough integrity for that.

He didn't promise 62 times to build a wall that Mexico pays for - then fail to deliver...now there's some "integrity"...

Since when has a Democrat ever simply just said, hey, I got it wrong, I’m sorry? Never!

How about Dem Trump in 2011?

"In an 2008 interview with NY1 reviewed by CNN’s KFile, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, for their time in elected office.

Asked about Hillary Clinton’s legacy, Trump said, “Well, I think her history is far from being over. I’d like to answer that question in another 15 years from now. I think she is going to go down at a minimum as a great senator. I think she is a great wife to a president. And I think Bill Clinton was a great president.”

But at least Biden’s not completely out, just yet. Just now he’s starting to make good on his promise to build back better by actually building a wall that protects Americans.

That your guy failed to do in four years...

Three years in, and he’s finally woken up. Trump can’t call him sleepy anymore!

Given his cognitive difficulties this past month, he'll probably call Biden "Obama"....and again say he'll start "WW II"...

https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-host-seamlessly-turns-083724742.html

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I honestly can’t see what the problem is with having a secure border. It is important to keep undesirable’s out. Every developed nation is being flooded with economic migrants and there will always be those willing to take advantage of them. This will only lead to the lowering of everyone’s quality of life except for those that can afford it.

Well, that is exactly right and to the point. That is real rational thinking.

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Bass two people can agree that we need better border security but disagree on the best way to do it. Just because I don't agree with your way doesn't mean I welcome in illegals. Quite the opposite. I just want to use limited funds as smartly as we can.

And building a wall across the entire border pays low dividends. You're talking about building and maintaining barriers with human beings watching constantly in remote areas where humans have low chances of even making it. It's a waste of limited resources and is why politicians have dropped their demands for a complete wall after being elected.

Democrats have supported building walls in heavy traffic areas, which I support. Obama did it. And as Desert said, a vast majority are overstating visas so a wall is useless to stop a majority of them. Add to the fact that nearly all the rest are crossing in heavy traffic areas means building walls in remote areas is a waste of time. I will not support sending funds there. Divert those funds to catching visa overstayers or hiring more judges to resolve asylum cases faster.

Why wouldn't you support that?

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And building a wall across the entire border pays low dividends. You're talking about building and maintaining barriers with human beings watching constantly in remote areas where humans have low chances of even making it.

which is also an area that the drug cartels could exploit to try to get people to cross, if I were a drug cartel member, that’s what I would do, regardless of the dangers

It's a waste of limited resources and is why politicians have dropped their demands for a complete wall after being elected.

Please forgive me when I say this, but it just makes me want to puke when I hear liberals talking about limited resources and waste of money, the same people that waste our money to a foreign country, and overlook infill to dress the problems that we have on our own streets with thousands of people are addicted to drugs, drugs that come from Mexico, that are manufactured also with key components from China and then brought back to the US by mules in coming in illegally.

Democrats have supported building walls in heavy traffic areas, which I support.

They haven’t, if they really supported illegal immigration, they wouldn’t have sanctuary cities

Obama did it. And as Desert said, a vast majority are overstating visas so a wall is useless to stop a majority of them.

Well, Desert doesn’t know what he’s talking about, I still remember in Germany. When we had the wall, that wall was in penetrable, and very few people made it across, very, very few, if a walk, and work in Germany, if you can work in Israel, if you can work in Hungary, then it can definitely work in the United States, there is no difference.

Add to the fact that nearly all the rest are crossing in heavy traffic areas means building walls in remote areas is a waste of time.

You could say that about when you’re building an alarm system in certain areas that you find in a week, but you want to cover all areas to make it less likely for people to even try to attempt in may be taking an unguarded route

I will not support sending funds there.

I will.

Divert those funds to catching visa overstayers or hiring more judges to resolve asylum cases faster.

Yes, but in order to do that, seal the border first, and then take it from there.

I would hope you support that.

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So the deficit hawk has a problem when the libs throw too much money around but you're willing to toss these exorbitant figures for a wall that merely "slows people down", even after Mexico failed to pay for it. Then in the same breath talk about how we have record numbers of immigrants coming in, what a useful wall that is. 

If the Dems would have done their job, if the Washington establishment would have done their job, we wouldn't be here talking about this and the wall would be complete and in place.

How is that a valid comparison? The US destabilized neighboring territories so their only choice is to go to the one place that isn't destabilized for the literal sake of survival, and last I checked Hungary wasn't the one running around executing coups in Latin America. 

I'm sorry, but I worry about the US and our Southern border, I will not question what another sovereign nation does to protect its borders.

You link none other than a Heritage Foundation article, unreal hahaha

Ahhh, so it would be better for me to put up a lib article that doesn't even think we should have walls, let alone be a sovereign nation.

I'm sure they're a reliable and unbiased source of information.

Pretty much. At least I get to see both sides of the tale and not the one side liberals always and only want you to see.

And I'm not sure what the other article has to do with the wall being effective considering the overwhelming majority of trafficked drugs are brought in through legal ports of entry,

That is absolute BS, every border patrol official off the record has stated otherwise, so I would definitely take their word over Myorkas any day of the year.

the very same ports that the people you're worried about have zero access to. I reckon you or anyone you know has never had a run in with the cartel either, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make in terms of illegal immigrant crime rates.

So far you have been wrong on every point, but you have your opinion and I have mine, and mine is more aligned with the former BPA and Homeland team.

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No, it did not because there were West Germany and East Germany

Still, Germany, thank you.

and the wall belonged to East Germany. Two separate countries. History is important. Revisionism avoided.

But the same country and the same history before they were divided. I should know.

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Biden is checking all of my boxes to be the perfect president. Not sure what people are complaining about.

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“The money was appropriated for the border wall,” Biden said. “I can’t stop that.”

Separation of powers after all, good to see that unlike his predecessor Biden does not think being president is the same as being fuhrer or king.

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BS. Democratic legislators all know what the laws are regarding appropriations. So does every Republican lawmaker. And every one of those lawmakers know that had the Executive Branch refused to spend the money appropriated by Congress for the intended purpose he could have been sued and would have undoubtedly lost. For all you down voters, please read and understand the laws that govern what is known as Planning, Programming, Budgeting and Execution or PPBE to use the parlance of the Federal budget process. There are strict rules governing the process that have potentially big fines and prison sentences for will failure to comply.

Presidents cannot just do what they want.

Oh, I know that, but it seems that this President is not aware of that, not sure because of cognitive issues or because he just doesn't care. So in theory, you are to a large extent correct, however, all the Dems had to do when Biden....took office was to uphold the Trump border policies, that's it, and continue with them regarding the border wall construction, they didn't do that and from day one, not sure if he was him that made this unilateral decision or congress whispering in his ear to halt all construction. They made their bed and now the rest of the nation is suffering because of their desire to replace the electorate because more and more liberals are realizing that their party is out of sync and continues to put forth crazy non-sensical whacked ideas that help no one, but it is helping more unskilled and low-educated illegals (mostly men) that can't contribute to society

The wall can't be completed ocean-to-ocean as Trump had stated.

That is where you increase Coast Guard patrol presence, and flood lights near and around those critical areas.

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BS. He explained just what I explained. “The money was appropriated for the border wall,” Biden said. “I can’t stop that.”

What a complete and total farce. Of course, Biden could have completed it, he unilaterally stopped it. Give me a break. He and the Democrats could have worked to have properly secured our borders, they also didn't have congressional authority to demand our borders be open and to tell or BPA to NOT do their jobs, so that in itself is breaking the law to NOT allow the people that taxpayers pay to keep our nation safe to not protect us and our sovereign nation.

The current Congress is not obliged to continue the policies of a previous Congress.

Well, this congress wants to, but even if they would pass a law to stop it, The Senate would object to any proposal and then there is Myorkas who said today that they did an outstanding job! Lying just comes naturally to this guy and he doesn't even bat an eyelash when he says it.

I personally do not want my tax money wasted on an ineffective border wall,

Ok, I get it, you don't believe in national sovereignty, I on the other hand do and I definitely want my tax dollars to go and fund this wall, the wall already paid for that this president tried to sell off secretly and quietly, now why is that? Of course, we know why he did this! I want the harshest penalties on anyone who comes into our country illegally, If you want to come in, do so legally.

and especially when eminent domain is used to take private land to do so, often cutting farms in two and locking farmers out of land they own south of the border wall. 

Yawn, more liberal excuses.

They made their bed and now the rest of the nation is suffering because of their desire to replace the electorate 

And your real bottom line is the detestable and highly racist replacement theory.

For wanting a sovereign border? So other nations can have it, but we can't? If you think that makes someone a racist, I guess not opening up my door and allowing illegals to our in makes me a racist. How about you, would you take in 20-30 illegals to live in your home with you and your family? I mean, you believe in open-borders, so you don't need locks, you just let them in and they can do whatever you want, and you are ok with that, right?

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all while contributing to an insignificant fraction of crime in comparison to actual American citizens lol.

Yes and tell me how your party is fixing that problem?

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its not a farce at all. He’s respecting the separation of powers by building a section of wall that was already congressionally mandated. He has not agreed to build a wall

We know that and now even Democrats are telling this guy to stop because their cities are out of control and they are kicking American citizens, and vets out of their care facilities to make room for these illegals. That is just insane!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/veteran-kicked-out-nursing-home-make-way-migrant-housing

with flesh penetrating spikes and a serpent and gator filled trench  from Brownsville to San Ysidro. 

Then don't come over illegally, they should throw in Piranhas as well.

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Risible nonsense. Nobody would expect a Repubelicken President to uphold the policies of a Democratic predecessor but you get all butt hurt because a Democratic President isn't upholding the policies of your god Jupiter, the orange colored gas giant. We voted that SOB out to end those policies.

Ok, so then you’re basically agreeing with me that for the Democrats, it was more about politics and optics than what was best for the country, good to know.

That is a bald faced lie and you know it.

No, read the article.

I'm a veteran and use the VA system regularly so I know what you are alleging is simply not true.

Most of my family served and they know as well.

My experience with immigrants is that they make far fewer demands on public services than overweight, diabetic and drug addicted born in the good ol' USA Americans.

So now you’re generalizing all Americans, we are all overweight and diabetic or drug addicted, not where I live, not where I come from and not where I grew up in United States, so I don’t know where you’re getting that from. My experience with immigrants has also been great, but most of them have been with people that had good intentions, people that had a goal in life, people that strive to become some thing, and that wanted to be part of something bigger, people that believed in the American dream, and wanted to become legal citizens. They have something to offer, they have the education, they have the merit and the desire to strive to be part of the fabric of America, those are the people that I want to immigrate to our great country.

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In my own life in my own city my concerns are not illegal immigrants. The ones I know work hard, are family oriented and don't do crime. The make no demands asking only for a chance to work and earn some money, a surprising amount (to me) is sent home. They live poor so they can save money. They are like my grandparents. And they are disparaged for racial and ethnic reasons just like my grandparents were.

Some are, this is true, but I’m not talking about those individuals.

They are not the drug addicts stealing my mail. They are not speeding and yakking on their cell phone before they rear end my and darn near total my restored vintage car. Now that was a nice wealthy white lady. It is not illegal immigrants street racing or doing white collar crime. It is not an illegal immigrant trying to tell me my attic furnace is responsible for the holes in the roof of a condo I rent or telling me it my window frame that is causing the leak above the window frame, though it might be an illegal immigrant who fixes the holes causing my problems.

I’m sorry, but what does that have to do with illegals crossing the border and pushing for illegal immigration is not illegal, you kind of confuse me there, I don’t know how that relates to the topic of what we’re discussing. Anyway, I think increase border security is the best way, and the first step is to build a wall finish it and seal the border completely, that’s the first and most important step.

Depends on who the HOA hires and they hire the cheapest labor they can find but the property manager currently making my life miserable was born in the US. I don't have any problems with legal or illegal immigrants. None.

Maybe you don’t, but millions of Americans, I myself included, Do you have a problem with illegals coming in, I don’t blame the illegals for coming in, I understand why they do what they’re doing, but you still have to follow the rule of law, I do believe this administration for helping accelerate and push this mass illegal migration.

Without them food isn't harvested, homes are not built or repaired, cars are not washed, etc.

So, let me get this straight, you think that we need 5 million illegals to do all of that? We have over 56,000 homeless people just in Southern California alone who is going to employ these people? They don’t speak English the majority of them, most of them don’t have a skill, how are they going to work? How are they going to pay taxes? How would you count them in the US census, especially if they’re not legal, the problem with Democrats in the policies is that they don’t think before they implement some thing, they just go by pure emotion, and I always leads to trouble.

The real villains, to me, are the born in the US employers who exploit them and mistreat them.

That is wrong as well.

Those employers who abuse immigrants for their own profit are the lowest of the low, not for hiring illegal immigrants but for taking advantage of them.

Yes, but that is an entirely different issue, one way to stop that practice from happening is to make sure we have proper illegal immigrants in this country, then they don’t have to be worried about being exploited, because they could file lawsuits.

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Coastguards patrol the ocean, not the 2,000-mile-long border.

I was talking about the borderline along the ocean, the border is even easier, just hire more border patrol agents increase their pay, and objectively, re-instate the return to Mexico policy, pay a high penalty, punish and incarcerate repeat offenders, and have no asylum for lawbreakers. Almost every BPA that has been interviewed off camera, retired, or away from the ears of Myorkas said the exact same thing, this is a problem the US can easily fix.

The Coasties are responsible for navigation safety on inland waterways and the Great Lakes.

Of course, they can.

https://www.news.uscg.mil/Press-Releases/Article/3280774/operation-vigilant-sentry-stopping-illegal-migration-at-sea/

More waste of money so scared conservatives that have never even interacted with a "big bad immigrant" can finally sleep without their night lights on despite the wall doing absolutely nothing to prevent people from crossing the border.

Well, it was, not true, the wall did stop people, now let's look at reality for a second, did it completely stop people from coming in? It did not. Did it slow people down or deter people from attempting to come in? Absolutely. The wall slows people down, gives BPA to more easily apprehend the individuals and that is exactly what you want.

No matter how tall or wide it gets, they'll find a way over or around it

If you don't increase BPA along the border that what you said is true. Now, look at Hungary, they don't have that problem, now why is that? Because they are serious about national sovereignty and upholding the rule of law and that is a smaller country than the US, if they can do it, we can as well, India does it as well. There are just no excuses the left can make to justify any of this, none.

as they always have and continue to do the backbreaking labor no American wants to do in order to keep the country running,

all while contributing to an insignificant fraction of crime

That is changing.

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/increased-illegal-immigration-brings-increased-crime-almost-23-federal

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/operation-lone-star-combats-increased-cartel-activity-along-border

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You really don’t actually know what the Berlin Wall was do you? That’s clear. 

I do

Look at an old map of it. It’ll be an eye opener for you.

And?

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@TaiwanIsNotChina

Not sure what people are complaining about.

Well since you don't look our trash up, how would you?

Oct. 5 01:03 am JST TaiwanisNotChina

I'm not going to look all of this trash up,

Why are you even here?

Biden is a horrible president, in league with warmongering warprofiters so much that he is one of them. He has brought us to the brink of nuclear armagedon and squandered our future to squeeze profits out of the blood of Ukrainians.

Even I don't think a border wall is going to work, but at least it will employ ordinary Americans in a harmless project. Better to finish it than stoke the fires of needless foreign wars and instigate them.

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“The money was appropriated for the border wall,” Biden said. “I can’t stop that.”

God forbid money just goes unspent. That statement makes it clear his administration is trying to have it both ways.

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The Fu,name one incident of how an illegal impacted you

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