Biden surveys storm damage in Florida; will not meet with DeSantis

The American government is broken. That a governor ditches a president visiting a disaster area with federal aid to dole out used to be unthinkable.

The American government is broken. That a governor ditches a president visiting a disaster area with federal aid to dole out used to be unthinkable.

DeSantis doesn't want Biden laughing at his Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader boots.

Rock-Star Ronnie is too much of a panzy to meet a potential political opponent for something as worthless as the welfare of the people of his state.

Who is telling the truth here, DeSantis or Biden? The evidence is painfully obvious that DeSantis chose to play politics with a disaster instead of working with Biden.

We know this due to the weak excuse provided by the DeSantis camp:

Biden, a Democrat, told reporters on Friday he would see the governor during the trip, but DeSantis' spokesman Jeremy Redfern said later that no meeting was planned and "the security preparations alone that would go in to setting up such a meeting would shut down ongoing recovery efforts."

Notice how security is only an issue when a Republican is excusing their repugnance in not joining a Democrat to comfort the needy and not an issue when a former president is going to be ARRESTED and CHARGED with MULTIPLE FELONIES? So do I.

Please, please do not hack up my post in order to reply to me in a childish manner. Furthermore, please do not respond to me if you are going to refuse to use facts, reason, politeness, or simply want to “stick it” to someone.

If you truly want to “stick it” to anyone, you have to use facts, logic, and reason or you’re just displaying your lack of intelligence.

Thank you all in advance for being courteous posters and not managing to have this thread disabled before 1300 hours.

DeSantis is busy crafting bills that targeting guys affected by the storm.

Rock-Star Ronnie is too much of a panzy to meet a potential political opponent for something as worthless as the welfare of the people of his state

I’m confused, I thought Joe said that he’s better than the Republicans and believes and thinks you should reach across that aisle and work in a bipartisan fashion, so it was all a lie, lip service, political grandstanding? Deception tactic? Well, if Republicans reciprocate in return in the future don’t say Jack. No one likes a hypocrite especially if it’s from Biden. Might actually be better, Joe can’t do anything but just annoy people. Anyway, thank you RD for doing what you do in these terrible disasters.

It's Desantis's job to meet with the president and discuss federal aid.

bass4funk

I’m confused,

Agreed.

I thought Joe said that he’s better than the Republicans and believes and thinks you should reach across that aisle and work in a bipartisan fashion,

True.

so it was all a lie, lip service, political grandstanding? Deception tactic?

No.

It's Ronnie who won't meet with Biden. Not the other way around.

If young Ron down in Florida needs "comforting", too, that's not old Joe's job: a shoulder to cry on should be the job of the old orange RINO who has caused him so much grief in his attempt to climb the greasy pole to Pennsylvania Ave in his white boots.

*WASHINGTON – Today, the NAACP Board of Directors ISSUED a formal travel advisory for the state of Florida.*

The formal travel notice states, "Florida is openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color and LGBTQ+ individuals. Before traveling to Florida, please understand that the state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of, and the challenges faced by African Americans and other communities of color." 

https://naacp.org/articles/naacp-issues-travel-advisory-florida

”Issuing” information is far different than “sending out memos.” Please leave your emotions at the door as they interfere with accurate information. Thank you.

Notice how security is only an issue when a Republican is excusing their repugnance in not joining a Democrat to comfort the needy and not an issue when a former president is going to be ARRESTED and CHARGED with MULTIPLE FELONIES? So do I.

At this point, the majority of people in that state really don’t care to see Biden, they don’t need to be more upset than they already are.

Please, please do not hack up my post in order to reply to me in a childish manner. Furthermore, please do not respond to me if you are going to refuse to use facts, reason, politeness, or simply want to “stick it” to someone. 

It’s open forum, people can respond the way they want.

If you truly want to “stick it” to anyone, you have to use facts, logic, and reason or you’re just displaying your lack of intelligence.

True, but use what you think will think will further the conversation, meaning, what one person determines to be facts might not be seen as factual to someone else and you can bring opposing viewpoints in an intelligent way and not agree with one another, that’s the beauty of debate.

I’m confused, I thought Joe said that he’s better than the Republicans and believes and thinks you should reach across that aisle and work in a bipartisan fashion

Once again, a failure to read the article...

Biden, a Democrat, told reporters on Friday he would see the governor during the trip, but DeSantis' spokesman Jeremy Redfern said later that no meeting was planned and "the security preparations alone that would go in to setting up such a meeting would shut down ongoing recovery efforts." DeSantis, 44, instead spent the day about 50 miles (80 km) south, touring small communities along Florida's Gulf Coast, according to his official schedule. Responding to a question on Saturday on what had happened to the meeting, Biden told reporters, "I don't know. He's not going to be there."

so it was all a lie? lip service? political grandstanding? Deception tactic?

Yes, yes, BINGO! and likely....

Well, if Republicans reciprocate in return in the future don’t say Jack.

Jack who?

No one likes a hypocrite

As evidenced by your downvote column...

Anyway, thank you RD for doing what you do in these terrible disasters.

And according to the resident at Mar-A-Lago, filling the state with "misery and despair", turning it into "one of the worst states in the US...

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/21/donald-trump-says-ron-desantis-created-misery-and-despair-in-florida/70139811007/

That resident is your hero so we're sure you agree...or is he lying?

Did two different people write your post Bass?

Come again?

Be bipartisan, but never meet Biden!

Biden RAN on being bipartisan, hasn’t shown it yet…that is, only when it is to his benefit.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2021-04-16/biden-promised-bipartisanship-now-hes-redefining-it-essential-politics

When the LA times calls out Biden you know the poo just hit the fan.

The people of Florida will be very grateful for any federal aid they receive regardless of who is president. Like in Maui, these disasters are not a time for politics. They are a time when thousands of people need immediate aid just to survive and more aid for reconstruction. In that part of Florida flood insurance is already very high and after the payouts, it will be increased beyond what some people can afford.

The cost will be more than $20 billion.

Instead of the politics think of the victims.

When the LA times calls out Biden you know the poo just hit the fan.

That article is from Spring 2021. It’s rather a stretch to say the poo just hit the fan.

Besides, it doesn’t call out Biden, it blames the GOP for the failures of bipartisanship.

That article is from Spring 2021. It’s rather a stretch to say the poo just hit the fan. 

Nothing has changed though, that’s the ironic thing, you think it would, they say with age comes wisdom….Well, Joe failed on that one.

Besides, it doesn’t call out Biden, it blames the GOP for the failures of bipartisanship.

Yes, but Biden is president and he ran on bipartisanship, and yet, nothing, so back to Ron, there you go, why does he have to? Not helping his state or the people in Florida.

The people of Florida will be very grateful for any federal aid they receive regardless of who is president.

Yes, but that doesn’t make them like or warm up to Biden.

Like in Maui, these disasters are not a time for politics.

Tell the people that.

Instead of the politics think of the victims.

Well, that’s what Ron is doing.

--That article is from Spring 2021. It’s rather a stretch to say the poo just hit the fan. 

Nothing has changed though

Weak defense. Let's see how soon this discussion gets dragged into the ditch.

Biden is president and he ran on bipartisanship, and yet, nothing

The Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, and support for Ukraine were all passed with bipartisan support. So no, that's not "nothing".

Besides, it doesn’t call out Biden, it blames the GOP for the failures of bipartisanship.

Yes, but Biden is president and he ran on bipartisanship, and yet, nothing, so back to Ron, there you go, why does he have to? Not helping his state or the people in Florida.

President Biden on Saturday praised Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) while visiting Florida in the aftermath of Hurricane Idalia after he was snubbed by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

“I’m very pleased, the guy who we don’t agree very much at all, the distinguished former governor and senior senator, he came, talked about to me and to you all [about] what an incredible job the federal government was doing and I found that reassuring,” Biden said in remarks in Live Oak, Fla. “And, so, I think we can pull all of this together, I really do.”

Biden was referring to Scott, who met with him earlier that day to discuss hurricane response efforts. Biden told reporters he wasn’t disappointed that DeSantis didn’t join the visit.

“No, I’m not disappointed. He may have had other reasons,” the president said. “But he did help us plan this, he sat with FEMA and decided where we should go, where it would be the least disruptive.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-praises-rick-scott-desantis-203937300.html

Gotcha...

The only Florida people affected are those in the disaster areas. Not the whole state. The Fed aid dollar will come from both Republicans and Democrats alike.

"The Florida Disaster Fund, announced by Governor Ron DeSantis and First Lady Casey DeSantis, has raised nearly $3 million since activation and is currently accepting donations to support communities impacted by Hurricane Idalia."

Far short of the billions needed.

 DeSantis voted against Sandy aid a decade ago. Now his state needs the help.

Florida’s Republicans have a complicated relationship with disaster aid.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/31/desantis-florida-gop-sandy-disaster-aid-00113627

Foreigners in Florida buy about $5 billion of properties every year. But if any are in the disaster area they are not entitled to federal aid.

Weak defense.

Nope.

Let's see how soon this discussion gets dragged into the ditch.

Then don’t drag it into one

The Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, and support for Ukraine were all passed with bipartisan support. So no, that's not "nothing".

Seriously, did they have a choice? No, they really didn’t, but we all knew what would happen if they didn’t go along…Well, most of the GOP

Correct. Adult Republican members of Congress never have a choice, unless it’s to obstruct Democrat presidents. What an ignorant f*cking statement to publish.

At the moment, the Maui and Florida victims do not need any politics. They need aid.

If we take your standard for judging credibility - rating of Fox v CNN - we can see by the number of upvotes I have received compared to the downvotes you have received and coke to the conclusion that I am 100% credible and you lack credibility.

Your metric, Bass.

Mods - Apologies for having persisted. You won’t read anything from me today.

Biden surveys storm damage in Florida; will not meet with DeSantis

Smart decision by the President.

DeSantis would probably try to divert disaster relief funds for his cronies business ventures.

Like he did with COVID stimulus funds.

Typical republican disaster capitalism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/28/desantis-hosseini-interstate-covid-money/

I mean, it seems this is exactly the opposite of what the mod policy states:

Please do not quote long posts (including posts with photos) and add only a one line message underneath.

If we take your standard for judging credibility - rating of Fox v CNN - we can see by the number of upvotes I have received compared to the downvotes you have received and coke to the conclusion that I am 100% credible and you lack credibility.

1) I don’t care, you can think that if you like, we all have various opinions and outlooks and viewpoints on topics, really.

2) This is a liberal site, go figure.

Smart decision by the President. 

Would be one in a very few…

DeSantis would probably try to divert disaster relief funds for his cronies business ventures. 

The Dems definitely would.

Like he did with COVID stimulus funds.

Yeah, the left needs to be quiet on this issue, they have a long will need a list of mishandling, stimulus funds, don’t even go there

Typical republican disaster capitalism.

Not just Republicans, there’s not a single Democrat in Washington, including Bernie Sanders that doesn’t love the capitalist system, not one, and they shouldn’t.

You’ll have to excuse Bass. 

No need

He’s a fan-boi of rock-star Ron-Ron and he’s not taking it well that Ronnie has been revealed to be a selfish pretentious jerk.

RD is doing just fine in his state, at least the guy suspended his campaign in order to deal with this hurricane, definitely wins props in my book. Biden should take much, much needed notes.

Yeah, the left needs to be quiet on this issue, they have a long will need a list of mishandling, stimulus funds, don’t even go there

This leftist will bot be quiet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/us/politics/biden-stimulus-bill-republicans.html

Republican tried to have it both ways. Criticizing Dem spending for disasters then misusing the funds for corporate welfare instead of helping the people.

Bernie Sanders that doesn’t love the capitalist system, not one, and they shouldn’t.

Bernie wants to use the mechanisms of capitalism to help the people and maximize prosperity, not line the pockets of some fat cat cronies.

IndividualisticmindsetToday  09:08 am JST

This administration is the worst! Gave only $700 to the Hawaiian residents but billions more to Ukraine. 

it was an INITIAL payment of $700. You know this. You’re just being disingenuous.

Either that or you’re just obtuse.

To be fair, it could, probably is, both.

The American government is broken. That a governor ditches a president visiting a disaster area with federal aid to dole out used to be unthinkable.

And the winner of all this stupid and childish ego fight is......

Donald Trump..

All that clowns are making Trump's job very easier..

Get used to it, we're going straight to Trump 2024..

At the moment, the Maui and Florida victims do not need any politics. They need aid.

This is America, everything is politicized especially with an election incoming.