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Biden says U.S. 'shall respond' after drone strike by Iran-backed group kills 3 U.S. troops in Jordan

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*Baltics or Balkans, take your pick.

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bass4funkToday 11:55 am JST

Doesn't change what I said.

And it doesn't change what Biden did either. Remember, the images and videos are everywhere.

And that will be of no relevance. Already forgotten by many people.

That's the one that will be hung around the MAGA neck until the end of time.

Nowhere near the levels of what happened in Afghanistan. Those 13 deaths will always be over Biden's head, just like his infamous 1994 crime bill that is still causing a lot of pain to the black community

Nope, sorry, tens of thousands of US servicemen dead in the Balkans or around Taiwan will more than make up for your lousy Afghanistan story.

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OK, start a war with a nuclear power in the Middle East. Right!

trump killed their general, then laughed in their face about it.

didn’t start a war.

so Joe isn’t required to do anything of substance when our military was murdered?

Just blow up a vacant shack in the desert in another country?

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BlacklabelToday 11:45 am JST

The US gave less than which specific European country?

Scroll down to the very bottom:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-much-aid-the-u-s-has-sent-to-ukraine-in-6-charts

The US has contributed less than many countries. Per capita matters.

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yeah, Bass. Look where we are now. Brilliant…

in a disastrous way, I guess.

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

Suddenly arming proxies isn't the flavor of the month for ice cream in certain quarters.

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Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support.

It wan't done in secret,

It was.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

I'm not talking about that.

I am though.

As he should.

They were abiding by it.

No, they were not.

Yes they were. If you disagree show your evidence.

I did, how many more articles do you need?

Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran.

Maybe he couldn't 

Of course, he couldn't. Trump has no negotiating skills.

Biden.

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Something non measured, in Iran, to something they love and hold dear.

Trump took out Soleimani. That made Iran stand up straight and behave.

Biden enticed and encouraged Russia to invade Ukraine. He let's Iran fund terrorists worldwide who attack our allies and us. Iran sees weakness when its right in front of them.

Time to light a candle for Tehran.

Does Biden have the strength? We'll see. So far, we just have his mumbled words.

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zibala

How did it reduce Iran's nuclear ambitions, what the original's aims were? Nothing. Trump failed to negotiate a deal.

He accomplished not giving a deal.

That's an accomplishment? He also accomplished handling Covid badly. He accomplished raisin the national debt by $7.8 trillion. So much winning.

If Trump was in office we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

True. We would be having a different conversation about Trump's incompetence.

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It is the here and now.

Bidens response must be clear and definitive.

No time to wait and see.

US is spread thin.

This is a US election year.

There is a tendency to hum and ahh.

The world is waiting .

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Where are we now? Hint, the guy “we” blew up the Iran deal up for is blowing the entire Middle East to hell. That’s where we are now.

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I'vw told you what I think Biden should do. What do you think he should do?

the opposite of everything you said. Something non measured, in Iran, to something they love and hold dear. Then this stops. If it doesn’t do it again.

They murdered our military heroes.

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Good thing he didn't and look at where we are now.

yeah, Bass. Look where we are now. Brilliant…

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How did it reduce Iran's nuclear ambitions, what the original's aims were? Nothing. Trump failed to negotiate a deal.

He accomplished not giving a deal. If Trump was in office we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Good point. Trump made the promise. And he didn't keep it? No.

Trump did.

But three US servicemen were killed, and you want to talk about Obamacare and Mexico.

Can you see why Americans are shifting away from Biden's misguided policies?

Worst, most corrupt president ever.

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The US 100% will strike at those responsible for this atrocity - be that in Iran or elsewhere. We won't know any of the details until the mission is completed.

well he’s gonna do something! Someday! Somehow! somewhere! really think so!

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No prob, Ramsey!

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zibala

Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran. Did he? No.

Trump's deal was great. Banking and oil sanctions. Reduce the money Iran can send to terrorist groups.

How did it reduce Iran's nuclear ambitions, what the original's aims were? Nothing. Trump failed to negotiate a deal.

Trump promised to replace Obama-care. Did he?

Got rid of the individual mandate.

No he didn't.

No. Obama promised to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it. Did he? No.

No, Obama made no such promise.

Good point. Trump made the promise. And he didn't keep it? No.

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Oops just read your post again properly instead of just skimming...got it ;)

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bass4funk

Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support.

It wan't done in secret,

It was.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

Again, NOT with Congress. the other countries don't matter.

I'm not talking about that. That's not the deal. The deal is the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with.

As he should.

Be he promised he would.

They were abiding by it.

No, they were not.

Yes they were. If you disagree show your evidence.

Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran.

Maybe he couldn't

Of course, he couldn't. Trump has no negotiating skills.

and thought it is best not to.

Because he is incompetent.

Good thing he didn't and look at where we are now.

It would have been so much better with Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. It was limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions and Trump just threw that away.

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You remember a place called Iraq? you know, the people who attacked us on 9/11?

And here everyone thought the 9/11 attackers were actually Saudis, thanks for clarifying it, everyone obviously has it wrong.

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What is clear to all is the global chaos is spreading far and wide, and most of those in office are NOT Happy as voters don't like it and the high prices it causes.

US spread far too thin, and Biden's made too many enemies in Muslim world with policies like green agenda and dumping US strategic oil reserves on the market etc.

Biden's got no play in Mid East with militants, likely he'll announce in early Aug. he's not running again.

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Look you cannot negotiate with terrorists or the regimes, or dictators, there are no deals for peace, or pretence of a peace at any cost.

Time to face up that action speak louder than words.

Trump/Biden, one or the other need to stand up and be counted.

Time has run out, one war to many perhaps?

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Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support.

Obama never even went to Congress, the sneak he was, he did the deal secretly behind closed doors

It wan't done in secret,

It was.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

Again, NOT with Congress. the other countries don't matter.

And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with.

As he should.

They were abiding by it.

No, they were not.

Then no deal. Once Iran, shows that it can be trusted, then you make a deal, so far it has reneged on every deal.

Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran.

Maybe he couldn't and thought it is best not to. Good thing he didn't and look at where we are now.

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Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran. Did he? No.

Trump's deal was great. Banking and oil sanctions. Reduce the money Iran can send to terrorist groups.

Trump promised to replace Obama-care. Did he?

Got rid of the individual mandate.

No. Obama promised to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it. Did he? No.

No, Obama made no such promise.

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Blacklabel -

what should Biden do?

then what to do?

what should he do?

Very fortunate the US is not being run by such an indecisive couch quarterback.

The US 100% will strike at those responsible for this atrocity - be that in Iran or elsewhere. We won't know any of the details until the mission is completed.

Rest in Peace to the US servicemen.

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Doesn't change what I said.

And it doesn't change what Biden did either. Remember, the images and videos are everywhere.

The snapback provisions were available but Trump blew it because everything Obama had to go.

Like everything had to go from Trump because of Biden? Well, Biden is in for a very rude awakening this year.

That's the one that will be hung around the MAGA neck until the end of time.

Nowhere near the levels of what happened in Afghanistan. Those 13 deaths will always be over Biden's head, just like his infamous 1994 crime bill that is still causing a lot of pain to the black community

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No, do US reputation start to go downhill way before Trump came into office, that is the reason why he got into office, because of how disastrous Obama was, and being the capitulating appeasement president, he was. The man in all of his eight years wouldn’t even call terrorist terrorists, you just can’t make this stuff up.

obama? What a short memory you have. You remember a place called Iraq?

you know, the people who attacked us on 9/11? Or are you one of those MAGA rally attendees? Well if Berak HOOSAIN Obama hadn’t gotten us into Iraq we’d be fine! Stupid Democrat warmongers! Trump’ll fix it!

How many of those purple fingered, freedom fries cheerleaders are still in congress calling themselves MAGA now?

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bass4funk

Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support.

Obama never even went to Congress, the sneak he was, he did the deal secretly behind closed doors

It wan't done in secret, it was negotiated with Iran, China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, and Germany.

And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with.

Yes, and rightfully so, because they were never going to abide by that anyway, they never have any capacity, no history of it whatsoever.

They were abiding by it. To monitor and verify Iran's compliance, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had regular access to all Iranian nuclear facilities.

Even if you don't think it's the best deal, a deal is better than no deal.

Then no deal. Once Iran, shows that it can be trusted, then you make a deal, so far it has reneged on every deal.

Trump pledged that he would negotiate a better deal with Iran. Did he? No. Trump promised to replace Obama-care. Did he? No. Obama promised to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it. Did he? No.

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There is no magic wand here and every hard truth simply melts away like the Walt Disney ice cream sundaes.

Poo happens

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Ramsey's KitchenToday 11:43 am JST

The rest of us don't ignore Iran's role in destabilizing every. single. country involved.

Americans talking about another country " destabilizing every. single. country involved." is priceless, lol.

Anti-americans talking about the US blowing up the entire region of 400 million people with a single invasion is priceless, lol.

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The US gave less than which specific European country?

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Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support. And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with. Even if you don't think it's the best deal, a deal is better than no deal.

And we didn't have Iran making these bold attacks against the US under Trump.

Still no response from Biden--he's supposed to be the commander in chief.

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bass4funkToday 11:40 am JST

The educated reader will note that by withdrawing from the deal, Trump let a whole bunch of countries blow the lid off the sanctions on Iran because the snapback provisions could no longer be executed.

Iran was never going to bite by that deal, and the deal should’ve never been made without the input of Congress, that was Obama’s doing. He wanted it before he left office, and here we are.

Doesn't change what I said. The snapback provisions were available but Trump blew it because everything Obama had to go.

You know what is more appeasing than not calling terrorists terrorists? Standing next to Putin and saying the election interference is not Russia. Also surrender in Ukraine but that is still in progress.

Wait, that’s your best attempted shot?! ROFL!

That's the one that will be hung around the MAGA neck until the end of time.

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Blacklabel

we all know how you would attempt to spin that.

i don’t even know how I would “spin” that.

what would I say?

What should Biden do differently to make them stop this?

I'vw told you what I think Biden should do. What do you think he should do?

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The rest of us don't ignore Iran's role in destabilizing every. single. country involved.

Americans talking about another country " destabilizing every. single. country involved." is priceless, lol.

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bass4funkToday 11:38 am JST

People will have fond memories of the Afghanistan withdrawal compared to your surrender in Ukraine.

Well, the people want to leave Afghanistan, they just didn’t like to leave in the way that this president did people don’t want to give any more of their hard earned tax dollars to Ukraine, the government did more than enough of that, so if you wanna call it a surrender, so be it.

Hiding behind the misled MAGA voter will not give you cover from the consequences of your decisions. Also the US clearly gave less than Eastern European countries.

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The educated reader will note that by withdrawing from the deal, Trump let a whole bunch of countries blow the lid off the sanctions on Iran because the snapback provisions could no longer be executed.

Iran was never going to bite by that deal, and the deal should’ve never been made without the input of Congress, that was Obama’s doing. He wanted it before he left office, and here we are.

You know what is more appeasing than not calling terrorists terrorists? Standing next to Putin and saying the election interference is not Russia. Also surrender in Ukraine but that is still in progress.

Wait, that’s your best attempted shot?! ROFL!

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Donald Trump needs to support US government its people, he need to act like a statesman, not succumbing to petty party politicking.

Huffing and Puffing on the US 2024 election stump, about Joe Biden's 'weakness and surrender'.

There is a greater good here.

Donald Trumps rhetoric is ill conceived incendiary provocative.

*'This attack would NEVER have happened if I was President, not even a chance - Just like the Iranian-backed Hamas attack on Israel would never have happened, the War in Ukraine would never have happened, and we would right now have Peace throughout the World. Instead, we are on the brink of World War 3.'*

I will argue Trump right democratically run for office, for US Presidency.

However, this rhetorical supposition is simply insane.

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KumagaijinToday 10:38 am JST

Terrorist savages cannot be backed down to.

From a US Military point of view, I understand your point of view. From the other side, I understand why they would want to attack the United States for supporting a genocide in Gaza.

The military action in Gaza doesn't impact Iran in any way shape or form and they don't much like the Palestinians anyways.

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( just a reminder the govt is itself a direct result of an illegal invasion based on Saddam WMD lies sold to the world )

Nah, that was Republican GW Bush who really wanted to send troops into Iraq and would stop at nothing to do it.

Yeah, that was my point , Dubya was a US President wasn't he?

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People will have fond memories of the Afghanistan withdrawal compared to your surrender in Ukraine.

Well, the people want to leave Afghanistan, they just didn’t like to leave in the way that this president did people don’t want to give any more of their hard earned tax dollars to Ukraine, the government did more than enough of that, so if you wanna call it a surrender, so be it.

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bass4funkToday 11:31 am JST

And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with.

Yes, and rightfully so, because they were never going to abide by that anyway, they never have any capacity, no history of it whatsoever.

The educated reader will note that by withdrawing from the deal, Trump let a whole bunch of countries blow the lid off the sanctions on Iran because the snapback provisions could no longer be executed.

The US's reputation suffered greatly because of Trump.

No, do US reputation start to go downhill way before Trump came into office, that is the reason why he got into office, because of how disastrous Obama was, and being the capitulating appeasement president, he was. The man in all of his eight years wouldn’t even call terrorist terrorists, you just can’t make this stuff up.

You know what is more appeasing than not calling terrorists terrorists? Standing next to Putin and saying the election interference is not Russia. Also surrender in Ukraine but that is still in progress.

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bass4funkToday 11:14 am JST

Or just leave like he did with Afghanistan, those images are tattooed in the eyes of the world forever.

People will have fond memories of the Afghanistan withdrawal compared to your surrender in Ukraine.

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Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support.

Obama never even went to Congress, the sneak he was, he did the deal secretly behind closed doors

*And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with.*

Yes, and rightfully so, because they were never going to abide by that anyway, they never have any capacity, no history of it whatsoever.

https://www.hoover.org/research/obamas-disastrous-iran-deal

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/366197-now-theres-no-denying-it-obamas-failed-iran-deal-wasnt-worth-the/

Even if you don't think it's the best deal, a deal is better than no deal.

Then no deal. Once Iran, shows that it can be trusted, then you make a deal, so far it has reneged on every deal.

Trump really doesn't understand foreign affairs.

Neither did Obama, you have people that do that for you like the secretary of state, department of defense

The US's reputation suffered greatly because of Trump.

No, do US reputation start to go downhill way before Trump came into office, that is the reason why he got into office, because of how disastrous Obama was, and being the capitulating appeasement president, he was. The man in all of his eight years wouldn’t even call terrorist terrorists, you just can’t make this stuff up.

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we all know how you would attempt to spin that.

i don’t even know how I would “spin” that.

what would I say?

What should Biden do differently to make them stop this?

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The Saudis that we protect and that help keep Iran at bay? The same people that give us intel in that region.

Bit dated, US pulling its Patriot batteries out of Saudi for some time now, Saudi and Iran firmly in the China camp in harmony, so much so that Saudi can no longer invest in sensitive US sectors e.g. AI, defense, etc.

China's pro Gaza because Muslims = 2.3 billion and growing rapidly, do the math. Everyone de-$dollarizing, none faster than Saudi fyi, they been their dumping Treasuries.

It's in above context that militant proxy groups thrive, multi polar gives them confidence and backing.

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The number of injured US personnel has grown to at least 34, US Central Command revealed in a recent update. Eight soldiers were evacuated from Jordan and remain in stable condition, with wounded numbers "to fluctuate as service members continue to seek follow-on care."

Claiming 350 troops stationed there.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

He could huff and puff and then withdraw and then take money from the Saudis like someone we all know. 

The Saudis that we protect and that help keep Iran at bay? The same people that give us intel in that region.

Or just leave like he did with Afghanistan, those images are tattooed in the eyes of the world forever.

Instead, he will lead like a responsible president.

ROFL! Mark that down as day one of this Presidency, finally!

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gaijintravellerToday 11:02 am JST

What are American troops doing in Jordan anyway? If America wants to stop military escalation in the area, America should stop filling the area with weapons, stop supplying the main terrorist organisation in the area, the IDF and stop supporting genocide.

If American soldiers get killed in that area, it is because Biden and America are supporting war in the area.

The rest of us don't ignore Iran's role in destabilizing every. single. country involved.

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What are American troops doing in Jordan anyway? If America wants to stop military escalation in the area, America should stop filling the area with weapons, stop supplying the main terrorist organisation in the area, the IDF and stop supporting genocide.

If American soldiers get killed in that area, it is because Biden and America are supporting war in the area.

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Do not forget, Israel opposed the Iran Nuke Deal.

fear not, I haven’t. Bibi’s fingerprints are all over this sh!tshow….going all the way back to 2003.

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Why? He's responded verbally strongly so that nobody has any question about the US's resolve. If it were Trump he would either ask his generals about nukes or pretend it didn't happen. That's how much of a loose cannon Trump is.

Nobody fears Biden's words.

If Trump were in office this attack wouldn't even have taken place.

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HopeSpringsEternal

Iran is EMBOLDENED, their oil production up approx. 10x since Biden took office as sanctions not enforced. They had almost no cash 3 years, now they're flush.

Obama had brokered a very good deal with limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions that had international support. And then Trump comes in and rips it up and has nothing to replace it with. Even if you don't think it's the best deal, a deal is better than no deal. Trump really doesn't understand foreign affairs. The US's reputation suffered greatly because of Trump.

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May your soul Rest In Peace brave men and women!. But the fact remains the actions of Joe's regime are naive at best!!

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Ramsey's Kitchen

Right about Jordan .In case of Iraq the govt doesnt seem to want US troops there anymore

Yeah, it's time they left.

( just a reminder the govt is itself a direct result of an illegal invasion based on Saddam WMD lies sold to the world )

Nah, that was Republican GW Bush who really wanted to send troops into Iraq and would stop at nothing to do it.

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Iran is EMBOLDENED, their oil production up approx. 10x since Biden took office as sanctions not enforced. They had almost no cash 3 years, now they're flush.

Plus, China and Russia and massively enabling them with weapons proliferation, especially nonconventional. If Putin gives Kim hypersonic, Ayatollahs' must be very happy indeed and therefore their many proxy groups!

Do not forget, Israel opposed the Iran Nuke Deal. Iran's been laying the groundwork for a long time as Israel ages and depopulates except for Muslims naturally.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

exactly what he is currently doing. 

which seems to be working soooooo well that the attacks are continuing and increasing. But now with blood on Joes hands again for our dead military heroes. Again.

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Blacklabel

 He's responded verbally strongly 

what? That’s it?

Then of course you pivot right back to attacking Trump. trump isn’t involved, what should Joe do?

He needs to take a measured response, something like an attack on an Iranian asset, but not in Iran itself, so as not to escalate into a war with Iran.

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It's crucially important to remember Trump actually ordered a withdrawal of troops in Syria. The incumbent put them back in and that is part of the root cause here.

right, torpedoing the Iran Nuclear deal then whacking the head of the IRG had nothing to do with.

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Global Chaos narrative never good one for those in office. Why Biden's so worried, it's whack a mole with these militant groups and their shoot and scoot strategy.

Expect we'll be reading soon about Hezbollah shipping attacks in Mediteranea Sea, copying Houthis playbook.

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JJEToday 09:11 am JST

BlacklabelToday  09:03 am JST

Biden will do all the wrong things and make a self-inflicted, provoked situation he created, diametrically worse. Watch.

It's crucially important to remember Trump actually ordered a withdrawal of troops in Syria. The incumbent put them back in and that is part of the root cause here.

Forgive us for not taking the recommendations of someone who wants to see dictatorships ascendant.

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Terrorist savages cannot be backed down to.

From a US Military point of view, I understand your point of view. From the other side, I understand why they would want to attack the United States for supporting a genocide in Gaza.

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Look at 2 nuclear armed big boys (Iran and US) bullying Jordan and its sovereign territory.

Why dont they take it either to Persian soil or US soil?

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Ramsey's KitchenToday 10:31 am JST

Right about Jordan .In case of Iraq the govt doesnt seem to want US troops there anymore ( just a reminder the govt is itself a direct result of an illegal invasion based on Saddam WMD lies sold to the world ) and Syria govt never wanted US troops there in the first place.

You haven't overturned the Iraqi government yet, so the US is still there legitimately.

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JJEToday 08:54 am JST

Still Biden's war.

Biden's war is spilling over into neighboring countries thanks to the actions of Iranian terrorists then.

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What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

We were invited by Iraq and Jordan, quite simply.

I'd assume they're there largely at the behest of the local governments there. This is certainly the case with Iraq and Jordan.

Right about Jordan .In case of Iraq the govt doesnt seem to want US troops there anymore ( just a reminder the govt is itself a direct result of an illegal invasion based on Saddam WMD lies sold to the world ) and Syria govt never wanted US troops there in the first place.

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 He's responded verbally strongly 

what? That’s it?

Then of course you pivot right back to attacking Trump. trump isn’t involved, what should Joe do?

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The base is in Jordan with its permission. Iran has attacked Jordan, Iraq, and Pakistan recently.

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if he does anything to solve the world’s problems,

This is not “the worlds problem”. it’s what is he going to do to directly retaliate against those who attacked us, not the world.

he didn’t do anything about this either:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/25/several-u-s-troops-report-brain-injury-from-attacks-in-iraq-and-syria-00123485

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Cue $60 million worth of missiles blowing up a deserted camp and some chest beating. Or equally likely a bunch of dead civilians much talk of fighting terror.

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zibala

Biden says US 'shall respond' after drone strike by Iran-backed group kills 3 U.S. troops in Jordan

Well, stop waiting, and "respond".

Why? He's responded verbally strongly so that nobody has any question about the US's resolve. If it were Trump he would either ask his generals about nukes or pretend it didn't happen. That's how much of a loose cannon Trump is.

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Only one (truly buff) man can solve the world’s problems.”

but I thought this was all about isolationism?

Y’all do understand that if he does anything to solve the world’s problems, by definition that’s not isolationism, right?

Everyone knows this is payback for the US using ISIS as a proxy in the region

is that why Trump assassinated the guy who was doing more damage to IS than anyone else? Warmongering? That was a legit act of war, JJE. Trump blew up the head of the Al Quds force on the tarmac in Baghdad. Basically the equivalent of Iran whacking the head of SoCom. Yet you don’t seem to have an issue with that.

if Biden does it it’s bad. If Trump does it it’s great. Just summarized y’all’s entire foreign policy

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Whatever Biden does,

what should he do?

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Biden's confused about complexity of Middle East, much like Ukraine. Hard to wage a successful campaign, when they're busy playing chess, and you just play checkers.

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There is some conjecture to actually where it took place:

Jordanian government spokesperson Muhannad Al Mubaidin insisted that the attack had happened outside of Jordan across the border in Syria and said this on television.

What is Biden lying about now...

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Biden says US 'shall respond' after drone strike by Iran-backed group kills 3 U.S. troops in Jordan

Well, stop waiting, and "respond".

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Bottom line's entire region heading into greater chaos as weapons flow from NK via Russia and probably from China that are relabeling in NK and of course Iran.

Everyone knows Persian Gulf shipping will come under attack from these many militant groups now armed to the hilt with missiles and drones, just a question of when.

Region's conflicted, because it's GREAT energy price support, the Gaza Genocide and severely damages Israel's economy. Houthis have no economy to worry about, only supporters that need 'results'.

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no, I’m not onboard with that.

then what to do?

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Strange how much that aerial photo looks like a Roman fortification.

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Correct.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

A direct consequence of the US support for the conflict in Gaza, just like the Houthis attacks on shipping.

A direct "consequence" such as the relentless bombing by Israel in Gaza as a result of Hamas' murder of over 1000 civilians.

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Well Blacklabel the guy quoted in the article saying Biden should hit targets in Iran is a Republican.

no, I’m not onboard with that.

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is he going to do anything about it? Nah.

He could huff and puff and then withdraw and then take money from the Saudis like someone we all know.

Instead, he will lead like a responsible president.

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BlacklabelToday  09:19 am JSTBiden should make an angry and divisive speech blaming “extreme MAGA republicans and Donald Trump”.

Scream some additional gibberish, mention Bidenomics, whisper something creepy and then get lost trying to leave the stage. That’ll be the extent of what he will do, as always.

"We will carry on their commitment to fight terrorism. And have no doubt — we will hold all those responsible to account at a time and in a manner our choosing. "

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/28/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-attack-on-u-s-service-members-in-northeastern-jordan-near-the-syria-border/

"Biden Vows to Retaliate After Strike Against American Forces in Jordan"

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/28/us/politics/biden-iran-drone-strike.html

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Biden said the United States “will hold all those responsible to account at a time and in a manner (of) our choosing.”

Here we go again. This time it's G-Joe speaking softly before getting out America's "Big Stick" 'cos "revenge is what we do and who we are".

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Biden should make an angry and divisive speech blaming “extreme MAGA republicans and Donald Trump”.

Scream some additional gibberish, mention Bidenomics, whisper something creepy and then get lost trying to leave the stage.

That’ll be the extent of what he will do, as always.

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If he doesn’t he’s a weakling. If he does he’s a warmonger. That’s how this works, right Blacklabel?

what should Biden do?

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Due to Joe Biden’s weakness.

is he going to do anything about it? Nah.

If he doesn’t he’s a weakling. If he does he’s a warmonger. That’s how this works, right Blacklabel?

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Biden will do all the wrong things and make a self-inflicted, provoked situation he created, diametrically worse. Watch.

What should he do?

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BlacklabelToday  09:03 am JST

Biden will do all the wrong things and make a self-inflicted, provoked situation he created, diametrically worse. Watch.

It's crucially important to remember Trump actually ordered a withdrawal of troops in Syria. The incumbent put them back in and that is part of the root cause here.

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Due to Joe Biden’s weakness.

is he going to do anything about it? Nah.

What should he do?

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Due to Joe Biden’s weakness.

is he going to do anything about it? Nah.

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Flying commercial aircraft into the Mid East region getting risky, especially western flagged operators.

Airlines PULLING back, insurance companies raising rates etc. Cost to fly to major airports there, THRU THE ROOF, due to uncontrolled missile and drone activity.

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Jordan will never allow this to happen from it's soil, this is out of Syria and who knows who is behind it. anyone's guess!!! few suspects are on top of the list like ISIS, The Syrian militants, Iraqi militants, Israeli militants , and or Jordanian militants, Hamas !!!!!

The middle east is now filled with anger at the war in Gaza.

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Still Biden's war.

The US presence in Syria is very controversial as the UN-recognized government in Damascus has long been demanding withdrawal, branding it aggression. Many other governments have supported this position and blasted this flagrant violation of sovereignty of a UN member state.

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Proxy wars virus spreading, Middle East a real Tinderbox. Upward pressure on energy prices and inflation likely, as supply chains are disrupted.

Drones & missiles launched by many non-state militant actors in region, hard to stop 'shoot and scoot'. Surely Persian Gulf Shipping's on their TO DO LIST

As US NATO Ukraine Proxy continues & Gaza Genocide metastasizes in Mid East, many assume domestic terror in US and Europe & Taiwan China = next shoes to drop?

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deanzaZZRToday 06:47 am JST

The US military may be getting the boot from both Jordan and Iraq. The neo con foreign policy goes from one "win" to the next.

The small installation, which Jordan does not publicly disclose

Iraq has Iranian crazies making the request to leave. Jordan does not.

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So why is there a U.S. base and may be more in Jordan? Move it to Israel and end the aggravation.

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Biden is speaking with a forked tongue again because the sole and real purpose of Tower 22 is to support the occupation base in Syria, directly 30 km north at Al-Tanf: 33.505833, 38.617778.

There is no occupation by the US. US forces in Syria are around 900 and are there to counter IS and nothing else. US forces only operate in an area controlled by the Kurds.

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We have to be damn careful and NOT jump into conclusions, there is so much going on now and anyone could be behind this, I mean anyone friend and or enemies to drag the USA into fight.

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@qurripsu: What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

IGood question, but I suggest something about control of fossil fuels might be a big part of the answer. If there is to be something close to peace in the ME and the world, the reliance on burning ever larger quantities of fossil fuels needs to cease.

The short answer is IS. US forces are part of a coalition that operates in the area to keep IS from reconstituting and once again become a threat to the region. Part of that effort is keeping certain Syrian oil fields east of the Euphrates River out of IS hands. Before the coalition arrived sales of oil from those oil fields was a major source of revenue for IS. A small number of US forces and a larger number of Kurdish forces now occupy those oil fields. The Kurdish administration sells the oil, most of which goes to the Syrian government, to finance their administration of the region they control.

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The small installation, which Jordan does not publicly disclose

Yet it and the US base at al-Tanf Syria nearby are both very visible on Google Maps and ArcGIS. On Google Earth the base is labeled "Rukban".

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Clearly a security failure at that installation.

If the base were in Iraq or Syria you would have a valid point. However in this case the base was inside Jordan and we do not yet know what rules the Jordanians have for the use of their base. Keep in mind Jordan is not a combatant in any of the several regional conflicts. This was as much an attack on Jordan as it is an attack on the US.

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kurisupisuToday 07:26 am JST

What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

We were invited by Iraq and Jordan, quite simply.

How many Americans need defending there?

Dunno, but it isn't an invasion force by any stretch of the imagination.

What gives the US the right to forcefully place unwanted troops in countries?

We are either invited or, in the case of Syria, that lawless country is being used as a base for attacks against the US.

Al-Qaeda,Isis,Houthis,Iranians,Iraquis,Viet Kong,Communists,Russians,White Males etc

Yes, there is a perpetually growing list of never ending foes to bomb and attack.

I don't know what the White Males are doing on your list, but yes, there are a lot of scummy people in the world.

The war on terror is truly ‘ never ending

The war in the ME is never ending, as is the terrorism.

but it always seems to take place on foreign soil.

Let's just use a term you are familiar with and call it a "buffer zone".

In fact, it is the unwanted American military presence that is the cause of opposition and strife in the region.

Nah, that is just used as an excuse to ignore religious fundamentalism and the desire to eliminate Israel.

Americans need to stay at home and mind their own country with its myriad problems before venturing abroad…

I think we will make sure others stay at home as well first.

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elephant200Today 07:52 am JST

Protecting an unpopular vassal kingdom.

The king of Jordan is actually a half American!

If every unpopular government in the region fell, there would be none left, including Iran.

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JJEToday 06:59 am JST

Everyone knows this is payback for the US using ISIS as a proxy in the region - don't believe the lies about the cause of this. Biden is a liar.

Yeah, right. You just say that because ISIS is also fighting your terrorist proxies in the region.

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Biden is speaking with a forked tongue again because the sole and real purpose of Tower 22 is to support the occupation base in Syria, directly 30 km north at Al-Tanf: 33.505833, 38.617778

This straddles the main Baghdad to Damascus route and facilitates the plunder of Syrian oil fields in the east of the country. This has been going on for years (except when Trump put an end to it). Previously they have claimed this is all necessary to "defend Iraq" but since they are being asked to leave there it will switch back to the terrorism/Iran excuse.

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Tower 22 is here: 33.313275 38.701157

Clearly visible. Three circled doughnut layout with Hesco barriers. Access road running NE/SW. Nine helicopter pads (with Black Hawks and revetments). Main entrances on the east and south-east. POL enclosure to the south (behind the aviation area just outside the fortified perimeter). Vehicle storage and maintenance on east, west and north (with fuel tanks and LSVR trucks present). They even have a sports field in the middle of all the accommodation in the center - directly north, south and west are the water tanks. North-east quadrant is the signals area. Western zone is the mustering area, close to the entrances.

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Time for some really visible assets in Iran to go boom.

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Protecting an unpopular vassal kingdom.

The king of Jordan is actually a half American!

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@qurripsu: What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

IGood question, but I suggest something about control of fossil fuels might be a big part of the answer. If there is to be something close to peace in the ME and the world, the reliance on burning ever larger quantities of fossil fuels needs to cease.

Under the Biden administration, The US is once again a global leader in oil:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gauravsharma/2023/12/19/as-2024-approaches-us-leads-global-crude-oil-production-roster/?sh=678d09102706

so I think the US should quit its presence in the ME, rely on itself for energy needs, and I also think given the huge reserves Russia and Iran have they too should remain within their respective territorial boundaries. Global powers: leave sovereign states alone.

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Everyone knows this is payback for the US using ISIS as a proxy in the region - don't believe the lies about the cause of this. Biden is a liar.

The illegal, extra-judicial murder of Iranian military officer Qassem Soleimani by the US government of Donald Trump in 2020 was a result of Soleimani's success in defeating ISIS. ISIS has only ever attacked Israel once, and that was by mistake. ISIS soon apologized for it:

https://www.newsweek.com/isis-fighters-regret-attacking-israel-apologize-defense-minister-591020

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What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

I'd assume they're there largely at the behest of the local governments there. This is certainly the case with Iraq and Jordan.

In fact, it is the unwanted American military presence that is the cause of opposition and strife in the region

Do you think the Iran-backed proxies are welcomed in Jordan by the Jordanian government?

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Three officials said the drone struck near the troops' sleeping quarters, which they said explained the high casualty count.

Cheap 3-D FACand drones with mutli modal GLLM pattern recognition is a dangerous force multiplier and the victims are largely the vulnerable on the ground.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/killer-drone-viral-video-drones-simulation-facebook/2664980/

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What is the US doing with military bases in Syria,Iraq and Jordan?

How many Americans need defending there?

What gives the US the right to forcefully place unwanted troops in countries?

Al-Qaeda,Isis,Houthis,Iranians,Iraquis,Viet Kong,Communists,Russians,White Males etc

Yes, there is a perpetually growing list of never ending foes to bomb and attack.

The war on terror is truly ‘ never ending but it always seems to take place on foreign soil.

In fact, it is the unwanted American military presence that is the cause of opposition and strife in the region.

Americans need to stay at home and mind their own country with its myriad problems before venturing abroad…

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Look at a map (not the one in the article because it does not show anything). This "Tower 22" installation is basically in the top right corner of Jordan at the intersection of borders - and supports the Al-Tanf base across the border in Syria, which is the nexus of a non-UN mandated occupation by certain quarters.

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Everyone knows this is payback for the US using ISIS as a proxy in the region - don't believe the lies about the cause of this. Biden is a liar.

-11 ( +14 / -25 )

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Did not follow the advice from USMC rMsj Gen Smedley D Butler: stay home.

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ChabbawangaToday 06:31 am JST

A direct consequence of the US support for the conflict in Gaza, just like the Houthis attacks on shipping.

If a terrorist announces a new campaign, that is a reason to prepare to go after them, not to think about how your foreign policy can be adjusted to accommodate criminals.

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So you figured it out before anyone even claimed the attack? Amazing detective work.

Did you read the article? Have you been following the increasing number of attacks by militant groups against US military in the Middle East wince October?

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The US military may be getting the boot from both Jordan and Iraq. The neo con foreign policy goes from one "win" to the next.

The small installation, which Jordan does not publicly disclose

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So you figured it out before anyone even claimed the attack? Amazing detective work.

A direct consequence of the US support for the conflict in Gaza, just like the Houthis attacks on shipping.

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A direct consequence of the US support for the conflict in Gaza, just like the Houthis attacks on shipping.

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Clearly a security failure at that installation. Hopefully it will be clear what needs to be fixed so the US presence can be maintained there. Terrorist savages cannot be backed down to.

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RIP brave service members.

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