world

Biden urges G7 leaders to call out and compete with China

90 Comments
By JONATHAN LEMIRE, AAMER MADHANI and JILL LAWLESS

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.

©2021 GPlusMedia Inc.


90 Comments
Login to comment

Not a big supporter of China, but China is doing what the rest of the COLONIALITS did back in the 18th, 19th, and even now in the 21st century.

All what the G7 leaders need to do is just take a look back at their own colonial history to better understand Chinas actions.

-4 ( +18 / -22 )

I wish we still had a president who was tough enough to take on China by himself.

-36 ( +11 / -47 )

The first problem with the G7 criticism of China's human rights abuses is the volume and severity of the human rights abuses within the G7 countries and that they support, enable, and defend. While of course from the G7 countries point of view there is no comparison (See the absolute outrage when Ilhan Omar made a pretty valid comparison) get outside them and the hypocrisy just reeks of a supremacist mindset.

The first problem with the G7 plan to compete economically with 'Beijing' (in reality with the B34) is that doing so would disrupt, to greater and lesser degrees depending on the sector involved, the economy of occasionally one, but usually more, of the G7 countries badly enough to topple that government at the next election and cause internal divisions over the distribution of the costs.

And the problem with the 'build back better' plan to change the reality that China is in the process of surpassing the US as the dominant single economy, and the B34 surpassed the G7 countries as the dominant trading alliance a while ago, and the collective and individual deficits of the G7 means that they'll be borrowing from either China or the BRI countries to pay for the upgrades.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

It's a funny old world. Perhaps the West shouldn't have interfered when Japan tried to colonize China in 1937.

-19 ( +4 / -23 )

The G7 needs a coordinated coalition to handle the China issue, now and in the future.

0 ( +12 / -12 )

in which Trump sided with Moscow over his own intelligence agencies.

Trump fans loved this. Better red than red, white, and blue.

7 ( +18 / -11 )

China IS setting the agenda for the G7. In other words G7 is copying China.

......Russia’s Vladimir Putin. The White House announced Saturday that they will not hold a joint news conference afterward, which removes the opportunity for comparisons to the availability that followed Trump and Putin’s 2018 Helsinki summit, 

A massive Presidential embarrassment has been avoided here.

-2 ( +7 / -9 )

I wish we still had a president who was tough enough to take on China by himself.

And apart from a trade war that hurt americans more than anyone else and emboldened the chinese governement, what did the last guy do, exactly?

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/08/07/more-pain-than-gain-how-the-us-china-trade-war-hurt-america/

Six months after the deal was inked, the costs and benefits of this agreement are coming into clearer focus. Despite Trump’s claim that “trade wars are good, and easy to win,” the ultimate results of the phase one trade deal between China and the United States — and the trade war that preceded it — have significantly hurt the American economy without solving the underlying economic concerns that the trade war was meant to resolve. The effects of the trade war go beyond economics, though. Trump’s prioritization on the trade deal and de-prioritization of all other dimensions of the relationship produced a more permissive environment for China to advance its interests abroad and oppress its own people at home, secure in the knowledge that American responses would be muted by a president who was reluctant to risk losing the deal.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

The message to china is clear:

the world will not forget and will not forgive

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

China is going to do what China wants to do.

Worry about yourself and make yourself competitive in the areas you can - high tech energy equipment and systems, for example.

Making cheap plastic clothes isn't going to cut it. The US is going to be the one in trouble with its insane fascination with money losing service businesses like Uber, Lyft, food delivery, more pizza chains, shared offices, coupled with its fascination with making money only from manipulating money.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Japan's relations with China were going fine (so many Chinese tourists in Shinjuku) until Trump became president. He lost confidence in the USA's ability to compete and blamed everything on China. Then made China the enemy. Japan has to avoid getting sucked up into this tragicomedy, and maintain good relations with China. The USA may not like it, but China is the next superpower. Also in the background, the USA is falling apart.

4 ( +15 / -11 )

gokai_wo_manekuToday  07:59 am JST

Japan's relations with China were going fine (so many Chinese tourists in Shinjuku) until Trump became president.

Oh, I thought Japan banning entry to tourists from China because of the coronavirus had something to do with the sudden decrease of them in Shinjuku.

2 ( +13 / -11 )

Biden urges G7 leaders to call out and compete with China

After the failure of Obama Biden team for eight years. (as they were receiving the China fund under the table) Trump stood up against China. He had back borne... He did the best to stop China from drinking the blood of tax payers of USA... Then Nancy and Biden and democrats and communists were so angry and outraged against Trump...

Now Biden make such jokes or propaganda as begging other nations to compete with China. Hello Biden if you have nerve then stand against China as Trump did...

-20 ( +4 / -24 )

Why the hesitation for Biden to call out China without hiding behind a G7 statement?

Almost Half the G7 is fine with what China is doing because they like the trade.

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

The leaders planned to attend a barbecue Saturday night, complete with toasted marshmallows, hot buttered rum and a performance by a sea shanty troupe.

I am sure they enjoyed this more than the China this China that.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

After the failure of Obama Biden team for eight years. (as they were receiving the China fund under the table) Trump stood up against China. He had back borne... He did the best to stop China from drinking the blood of tax payers of USA... Then Nancy and Biden and democrats and communists were so angry and outraged against Trump...

Hahaha, that's hilarious :)

7 ( +12 / -5 )

He had back borne... He did the best to stop China from drinking the blood of tax payers of USA... Then Nancy and Biden and democrats and communists were so angry and outraged against Trump...

I suppose it is no surprise after the last 4 years these demented rightist screeds have multiplied.

It is sometimes hard to follow the trail of bile. So the Democrats are communists along with China(which has the most robust economy in the world at the moment).

Trump was fighting against them with Putin and Russia (who are the good guys, not the communists anymore).

It would be nice if some had a greater familiarity with dictionaries.

4 ( +11 / -7 )

G7 all are officially to announce renunciation of One China Policy first. Japan corps should pull their legs out of Chinese swamp now. Sovereign risk way too high.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Sooner or later, Japan will have to start behaving like an independent nation. And focus on the interests of its own people.

Whether one agrees with it or not, China, Russia , and Eurasia will have an increasing influence on Japan’s future. The US influence is diminishing with each passing decade.

It’s time Japan emerges from its vassal state status, and starts charting a path of self interest towards its own future.

3 ( +10 / -7 )

Relations between the allies had become strained during the four years of Donald Trump's presidency and his “America first” foreign policy.

The Republicans still don’t seem to understand that no president ever did more for Communist China than Trump (or maybe they understand and are perfectly okay with it). 

Trump unilaterally withdrew from the TPP, creating a leadership vacuum in the region that Chinese were all too happy to fill. 

Trump gave newfound legitimacy to China’s unruly client in North Korea. 

Trump kept silent as a church mouse over grotesque human rights violations in Western China, and the crushing of the pro-democracy movement on Hong Kong. 

Trump presided over the largest-ever trade deficit with China in 2019, while his and his daughter’s merchandise continued to be made there.
1 ( +11 / -10 )

It's designed to compete with China’s trillion-dollar “Belt and Road Initiative,” which has launched a network of projects and maritime lanes that snake around large portions of the world, primarily Asia and Africa. Critics say China's projects often create massive debt and expose nations to undue influence by Beijing.

China is a neo-liberal authoritarian powerhouse that has modelled itself after the Singapore of Lee Kuan-Yew. One party rule along with hyper neo-liberal guided capitalist markets.

Along with Uighurs and Falun Gong, the group of people being arrested en masse in China are socialist environmentalist students who speak out against inequality and environmental destruction in their nation.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Japan corps should pull their legs out of Chinese swamp now. Sovereign risk way too high.

Yeah, but Japan can’t do that cos all they think about is MONEY. Suga will go home and start appeasing the Chinese, just like he caved in on the Taiwan comment.

1 ( +6 / -5 )

I am beginning to like Biden !

-4 ( +8 / -12 )

Canada, the United Kingdom and France largely endorsed Biden's position, while Germany, Italy and the European Union showed more hesitancy

What about Japan ?

4 ( +8 / -4 )

So all western world have to enter a very possible nuclear war so America economy is number one?

-2 ( +7 / -9 )

Tankies are out in force today

Senior Col. Dai Xu, an ultrahawkish professor at China’s National Defense University. Dai gave a speech last year admitting that he found four “unexpected” things that the Chinese people could not predict about the United States. They are (a) the level of hatred in the United States toward China, (b) the U.S. government acts ruthlessly leaving no room for negotiations, (c) no country has come forward to show sympathy and support for China and (d) a united front has been formed in the United States

enjoy your decline into third world status china

0 ( +8 / -8 )

So all western world have to enter a very possible nuclear war so America economy is number one?

How is this "nuclear war" very possible ? It really isn't . Who will start the nuclear war ? China ? China will get the Russians ( IMO very white and still a bit racist) on board with this idea ?

I don't think so.

There might be something in Taiwan and China will back off.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

I wish we still had a president who was tough enough to take on China by himself.

Europe won’t, not to the extent of taking any sort of punishing actions and Biden definitely won’t.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

This is a charade. Biden is beholden to the CCP. So is Corporate America.

Notice he is avoiding the elephant in the room? The CCP lied, people died. The world is awaiting accountability.

Biden is already skating on thin ice with his legitimacy and tanking the economy. Patience is running thin.

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

Under Trump, America still continued to trade with China but his trade war caused problems and suffering for people like farmers growing soybeans and lost their Chinese market and probably will never get it back. They felt let down by Trump.

Manufacturers in America had to pay more for their imported raw materials.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Biden urges G7 leaders to call out and compete with China....

After four years of Trump urging them to buy his Chinese-made Trump Collection shirts and ties....

0 ( +6 / -6 )

I wish we still had a president who was tough enough to take on China by himself.

You know, like this guy;

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida aired by CNN. “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” 

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

"I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem."

Wow that's tough, huh....wonder how many love letters they exchanged?

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Blah all you people talking about politics like it will change anything or any of it matters. lol I wonder how suga felt about england ahaha poor man knows what england is like now

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Under Trump, America still continued to trade with China but his trade war caused problems and suffering for people like farmers growing soybeans and lost their Chinese market and probably will never get it back. They felt let down by Trump.

But he stood up to China, threw in their face, became obnoxious and was unapologetic, threatened them, it definitely got their attention like NO previous President has. Even Chuck Shumer praised Trump for being hard on China, Biden and his handlers (or Rice) won’t allow Joe to do such a thing and Biden is not tough enough to take China on, he will capitulate and walk very cautiously and will be extremely careful in dealing with them. China and Russia only respect strength and you can say what you want about Trump, but being a girlie-man wasn’t one of them when it came to China.

Manufacturers in America had to pay more for their imported raw materials.

Yup, but again most farmers understood and again, he got the Chinese attention and usually no one does.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

But he stood up to China, threw in their face, became obnoxious and was unapologetic, threatened them, it definitely got their attention like NO previous President has. 

Totally incorrect has posted in lincolnman comment @10:45am.

Yup, but again most farmers understood and again, he got the Chinese attention and usually no one does.

But they didn't and there have been numerous reports on the farmers feeling let down by Trump. Explain that away.

1 ( +4 / -3 )

The G7 competing with China . . . doesn't this put Japan in an odd position, as Japan has historical roots from Ancient China, and both are neighbors in East Asia?

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Chinese boat already sailed.Rest of these G7 countries are trying to play catch up.

My Japanese company has recently been trying to enter markets in developing countries but the biggest shock to the Japanese employees who have had no clue as to what has been going on outside Japans borders is that every country they try to go to is awash with Chinese products.I know many people will hate to hear this,but quality of the Chinese products is quite good and reasonably priced.Japanese strategy has been to try and convince the importing side how high the quality of their products are by trashing Chinese products.Unbeknownst to many is that this kind of mentality no longer makes the cut.

Again Japanese take forever before making a decision. They want to go in risk free.On the other hand,Chinese are on the ground living amongst the locals and even intermarrying.

Difficulty in penetrating these markets has now driven my Japanese colleagues from frustration,to desperation and finally to anger.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

"The plan calls for spending hundreds of billions of dollars in collaboration with the private sector while adhering to climate standards and labor practices." Self-contradictory on its face: these are the very companies that oppose both climate change standards and improved labor practices that would impact their bottom lines.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

KenToday  11:16 am JST

Chinese boat already sailed.Rest of these G7 countries are trying to play catch up.

My Japanese company has recently been trying to enter markets in developing countries but the biggest shock to the Japanese employees who have had no clue as to what has been going on outside Japans borders is that every country they try to go to is awash with Chinese products.I know many people will hate to hear this,but quality of the Chinese products is quite good and reasonably priced.Japanese strategy has been to try and convince the importing side how high the quality of their products are by trashing Chinese products.Unbeknownst to many is that this kind of mentality no longer makes the cut.

Again Japanese take forever before making a decision. They want to go in risk free.On the other hand,Chinese are on the ground living amongst the locals and even intermarrying.

Difficulty in penetrating these markets has now driven my Japanese colleagues from frustration,to desperation and finally to anger.

Excellent description.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Totally incorrect

No, Lincoln can only see Trump bashing and nothing else.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-tough-talk-on-china-sparks-fears-of-geopolitical-crisis/ar-BB15NEg6

The appeasement people were definitely terrified.

https://sinoinsider.com/2020/07/the-trump-administration-is-tough-and-strategic-on-china/

But they didn't and there have been numerous reports on the farmers feeling let down by Trump. Explain that away.

And there are many more farmers that admitted the tariffs were painful, but felt that China was browbeating these farmers and admitted they never had someone fight on their behalf. Look, you can focus on the farmers that felt demoralized and I’ll focus on every farmer that was hoping Trump stay tough on China, something that Biden will never do. Again, that got their attention and this administration will never do that.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

bass4funk

Totally incorrect

No, Lincoln can only see Trump bashing and nothing else.

What can you post to show what Lincolman said was not true? It's not bashing when it's fact.

And there are many more farmers that admitted the tariffs were painful, but felt that China was browbeating these farmers and admitted they never had someone fight on their behalf. Look, you can focus on the farmers that felt demoralized and I’ll focus on every farmer that was hoping Trump stay tough on China, something that Biden will never do. Again, that got their attention and this administration will never do that.

I thought you were into people keeping their livelihoods as you stated over the cancelled pipeline. You are alright with people losing their living because it was the correct Trump policy? You said you were a farmer on your Texas reach so the Trump-China trade war didn't affect your business.

US farmers speak out against Trump's trade policy

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Agriculture/US-farmers-speak-out-against-Trump-s-trade-policy

1 ( +4 / -3 )

But he stood up to China, threw in their face, became obnoxious and was unapologetic, threatened them, it definitely got their attention like NO previous President has.

Yeah, and after 4 years of Trump, China is now provably stronger than it ever was. So it goes to show how efficient the Trump doctrine was (hint: it wasn't, it was pure garbage).

5 ( +8 / -3 )

China is only stronger now due to their smart financial investments into a guy whose Daddy is now the President.

Daddy cant say anything to China himself, so he has to beg the G-7 to do it for him.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Blacklabel

China is only stronger now due to their smart financial investments into a guy whose Daddy is now the President.

Daddy cant say anything to China himself, so he has to beg the G-7 to do it for him.

Teenage nonsense. China grew every decade since the time of the Nixon visits and started the American Chinese relationship. Long before Biden became president just five months ago.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

@Blacklabel

But he stood up to China, threw in their face, became obnoxious and was unapologetic, threatened them, it definitely got their attention like NO previous President has.

trump allowed two communist countries hack our government and did nothing because they both supported his re-election campaign. The third communist country leader was a "beautiful friendship" with lover letters.

China is only stronger now due to their smart financial investments into a guy whose Daddy is now the President.

Daddy cant say anything to China himself, so he has to beg the G-7 to do it for him.

trump owes China millions of dollars just like he owes Russia. What a smart financial investment Xie and Putin made in trump?

Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

All 3 countries benefited globally while trump was in office and at the same time he ruined the US reputation, cause division amongst citizens, destroying democracy and affected the deaths of 500,000 citizens. No wonder all 3 communist country leaders want him back in office! He helped turn the US into "quasi-Banana Republic".

The asset that just keeps on giving!

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Trump being tough on China is the biggest fairy tale since Mother Goose picked up a pen...

Trump has given the CCP millions of dollars for decades to make his Trump Collection clothing line products in their sweatshop factories - and you can still buy them today at the Trumpstore.com.

How much of these Trump millions went toward the genocide of the Uyghurs? How much towards their cyber-theft efforts? How much towards their new "carrier killer" IRBMs? How much toward the takeover in Hong Kong?

As mentioned above, until he saw that COVID was tanking his reelection and he needed to deflect, he was offering praise of Xi with every Tweet;

"Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

"I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time."

"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus."

"I had a great conversation last night with President Xi. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736

Trump was "tough" on Xi just like he was with Kim and Putin....not much tough, lots of love...

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Trump isnt President anymore is he? Yet China is stronger than ever.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

@Blacklabel

your guy disagreed with you. I explained why this is the case of China being stronger than they ever were.

Do you really believe its not a huge benefit to have this person as President right now, considering the direct relationship of the CCP to his son? come on, man.

Hypocritically, you had no problem with trump business dealings and debts of 100 millions of dollars owed to Russian and Chinese lenders or his focus on his hotels in Turkey and Saudi Arabians visiting his Washington to hotel reserving expensive rooms with no guest just to secure an arms deal.

Oh, my................!

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Blacklabel

Trump isnt President anymore is he? Yet China is stronger than ever.

Have you tried telling Trump he isn't the pressy anymore?

2 ( +7 / -5 )

no, that would not concern me, as none of it is actually true or relevant to the discussion here.

Sounds like a personal issue for a businessman who is not in office anymore.

As Trump is not President, and China is stronger than ever.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

@Blacklabel

Trump isnt President anymore is he? Yet China is stronger than ever.

Yes, thanks to trumps actions for the last 4 years.

trump had 4 years to ruin the country and allow communist countries get more power.

Biden has only had 6 months to keep more Americans from dying, rebuild the economy, repair the US global reputation, reunite immigrate parents from their separated children, and defend the country from more cyber-attacks by trump's allies in Russia, China, and North Korea!

You really have raised the bar of expectations for US leadership, morality and fiscal responsibility since Biden got to office.

Hmmmmm! I wonder why?

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Biden is quite lucky really that the G7 will work with him and America at all after so many international deals were destroyed by the former president. It's fortunate that America has a president that realizes going it alone against China isn't going to do anything. As for Trump getting the attention of China... results speak for themselves. You might ask "what results?" The answer is "exactly"

4 ( +7 / -3 )

@Blacklabel

"Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

"I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time."

"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus."

"I had a great conversation last night with President Xi. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736

LOL! The quadruple love affair that is trump, Xi, lil Kim and Putin

2 ( +6 / -4 )

to take on China by himself

on Twitter? LOL

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Making America great again by taking initiative and lead again. And not kissing up to China, Russia or NK. It's about time after four shameful disgraceful years of embarrassment to say the least.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.” Winston Churchill

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

What can you post to show what Lincolman said was not true? It's not bashing when it's fact.

I have been constantly doing it. What are you talking about?

I thought you were into people keeping their livelihoods as you stated over the cancelled pipeline.

I am and the crude oil is still coming in.

You are alright with people losing their living because it was the correct Trump policy?

Some people thought that, others were happy even if they had to deal with the heavy sacrifice, again, you’re focusing on one segment.

You said you were a farmer on your Texas reach so the Trump-China trade war didn't affect your business.

No

and here

https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/why-americas-tariff-hit-farmers-still-support-trump/

again, both sides

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Hey you first G7

Recognize Taiwan as a country

5 ( +6 / -1 )

In China's eyes they are the victim. Everyone and every country has a good story to explain their actions. Some call this excuses, some call it lies, some call it the truth. But whatever is it, don't believe everything in the news.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

China is turning Marxist-Leninist socialism as the most powerful force in the 21st century. Communism might not win through Russia but it will win through China. The USA is in panic to realize that socialism worked.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Biden probably had his fingers crossed behind his back when he said all that.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

China is turning Marxist-Leninist socialism as the most powerful force in the 21st century.

No it's not. China has become powerful economically by embracing free-market policies.

Communism might not win through Russia but it will win through China. The USA is in panic to realize that socialism worked.

Yeah, sure. It worked well at becoming the most murderous and oppressive societal institution ever -- that's about all it worked well at.

It should be as discreditable for a person to say he's a communist as it is to say he's a Nazi. We have over 100 million corpses stacked just since the year 1917 as proof of that.

You obviously have never lived in a socialist/communist country, which is probably why you're such a big fan of it. Communism never worked anywhere. And it never came into power legally or through democratic means -- it has always come into power through brute force.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

In the 1990s American elites dreamed of gaining access and control over the largest and fastest growing consumer market in the world. Now that it's clear their dreams won't be coming true, they're gearing up to bomb China into submission while they still have a military edge. Japan and the rest of the G7 need to distance themselves from this insanity.

The most worrying development is how eager American liberals have become for war against China in the name of democracy, human rights and so on. They're now just as rabid as conservatives who rage about the 'Chicoms'.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

It's always about the money. China has a hold on the special metals processing that no other country can do (without China we are really screwed) and Taiwan has a hold on the semi conductor manufacturing that no other country can do (Without Taiwan we are really screwed). But Trump people are not informed and just think that China only makes iPhones and plastic doggy doodoo that you find in the dime store.

My Japanese company has recently been trying to enter markets .....

Does this company have a real future? Japan sells a lot of heavy industry to China (already in the markets and going strong) and China is an important customer for Japanese steel for example, robotics tech, excavators. What products does your company produce specifically?

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Sorry, I have no faith in Biden or the G7 to Build Anything Back Better.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

“It's fortunate that America has a president that realizes going it alone against China isn't going to do anything” Agree with this 12:12pm comment. 

Leaving the UNESCO in 2017, the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2018 and intending to walk away from the WHO means

weakening international agreements once established by the democratic flow of the time, well, this is not the course to counter perceived threads. Period..

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

It should be as discreditable for a person to say he's a communist as it is to say he's a Nazi. We have over 100 million corpses stacked just since the year 1917 as proof of that.

Where is that proof? And while you are at it, check how many people have been killed in different countries through wars and revolutions started by the "democratic" countries.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

China overtook Germany to become the UK's biggest import market as trade in goods with European Union member states plunged because of Brexit and the COVID-19 pandemic, official data show.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/26/after-brexit-china-has-replaced-germany-as-the-uk-s-biggest-trading-partner

So not only has Brexit cost Britain around $1 billion a week since the vote, the country is becoming more reliant on trade with China than ever before.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

"An estimated 1 million people or more — most of them Uyghurs — have been confined in reeducation camps in China’s western Xinjiang region in recent years, according to researchers. Chinese authorities have been accused of imposing forced labor, systematic forced birth control, torture and separating children from incarcerated parents."

I will be most interested to see if Mr. Biden can accomplish the joint statement for later today. The Americans have told us that this man, 8 years as vice president and several decades as chair of the US Senate foreign relations committee, will use his incredible diplomatic skills to mend fences with allies and unite the free world.

Then after he fails to accomplish this, Mr. Erdogan will spit in his face over their differences and Mr. Putin will extract punishment on him for calling him a killer. This foreign adventure will be a disaster for the US and the Biden administration, and Mr. Biden will slink home even as the US press tries to spin this as 'statesmanship'...

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

China is turning Marxist-Leninist socialism as the most powerful force in the 21st century.

Mao Tse-Tung would be rolling in his grave if he could see the amount of materialism and consumerism in modern day China.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Biden urges G7 leaders to call out and compete with China

Oh sure. Meanwhile, he has re-introduced China back into US power grid contracts, re-instated the "Confucius Institute" CCP propaganda outfit back into US universities, has removed Trump ban on the CCP-connecte app "TicToc", and preparing support the CCP with his "green" agenda. Words are cheap.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

I wish we still had a president who was tough enough to take on China by himself.

Not only does the international order not work that way, Trump had no genuine initiatives to take on China, just like he had no healthcare reform plans ...

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Americans were told for several decades that "if we help China they will become more like us." Well, that didn't happen, did it?

1 ( +2 / -1 )

But he stood up to China, threw in their face, became obnoxious and was unapologetic, threatened them, it definitely got their attention like NO previous President has. Even Chuck Shumer praised Trump for being hard on China, Biden and his handlers (or Rice) won’t allow Joe to do such a thing and Biden is not tough enough to take China on, he will capitulate and walk very cautiously and will be extremely careful in dealing with them. China and Russia only respect strength and you can say what you want about Trump, but being a girlie-man wasn’t one of them when it came to China.

Trump was just tough talk about China, just like he was all talk about healthcare reform, and most everything else. He was no policymaker.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

The problem with the US is that they’re not really interested in competing with China; they’re content with just showing they’ve done better than the previous administration.

Party also comes before country. The Republicans dream of a one party authoritarian government like the CCP. Imagine. Republicans want to control both the House and Senate, as well as executive and judicial branch. That’s the CCP.

To compete against China you’ve got to first not try and tear each other apart.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

lincolnmanToday  10:45 am JST

You know, like this guy;

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida aired by CNN. “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” 

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

"I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem."

Wow that's tough, huh....wonder how many love letters they exchanged?

I don't understand; Trump can't praise the fact Xi is president for life, loves his country, is strong and works hard?

Seems like Chuck Schumer was writing love letters to Trump:

" I want to give him a big pat on the back. He is doing the right thing when it comes to China," Schumer said from the Senate floor."

"unfortunately, previous presidents, Democrat and Republican, just stood by as China did what it did to us. President Trump is exactly right."

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/379738-schumer-praises-trumps-china-trade-crackdown

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

China is turning Marxist-Leninist socialism as the most powerful force in the 21st century.

Pretty much.

Communism might not win through Russia but it will win through China. The USA is in panic to realize that socialism worked.

But it’s not, look at California, we don’t want the country to look like that mismanaged State.

https://www.ppic.org/publication/poverty-in-california/

According to official federal poverty statistics, 12.8% of Californians lacked enough resources—about $25,500 per year for a family of four—to meet basic needs in 2018. This represents a modest decline from 13.3% in 2017 and is slightly above the lowest recent rate of 12.4% (in 2007). Moreover, the official poverty measure does not account for California’s housing costs or other critical family expenses and resources

Nearly one in five (17.6%) Californians were not in poverty but lived fairly close to the poverty line (up to one and a half times above it). All told, more than a third (35.2%) of state residents were poor or near poor in 2018. 

NYC

https://citylimits.org/2020/09/21/the-good-news-on-nyc-poverty-is-old-news-which-is-bad-news/

According to the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, the share of New York City’s population living under the federal poverty line averaged 16 percent in 2019, down from 17.3 percent in 2018 and 20.9 percent five years earlier in 2014. 

So you have the two largest states that are rich in many ways, but are also stricken with some of the highest poverty rate in the US. This is the exact reason why socialism doesn’t in a free and democratic society.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Poor.........@Commodore Perry

I don't understand; Trump can't praise the fact Xi is president for life, loves his country, is strong and works hard?

Seems like Chuck Schumer was writing love letters to Trump:

" I want to give him a big pat on the back. He is doing the right thing when it comes to China," Schumer said from the Senate floor."

"unfortunately, previous presidents, Democrat and Republican, just stood by as China did what it did to us. President Trump is exactly right."

Oh, the irony!

Many elites in the Chinese Communist Party, that the US and its partners in the West are in a state of decline. This idea took root during the 2008 financial crisis, and then was reaffirmed by the European debt crisis, the election of Donald Trump and his aggression towards our European allies, and the United State's handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Despite what you, @Blacklabel and Lindsey Graham thinks, China was never afraid of trump! They saw him as the US's biggest weakness. That is why China and Russia supported trump's re-election campaign.

Chinese nationals with ties to the Chinese government donated hundreds of thousands to support Trump's reelection, according to report

https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-nationals-tied-to-chinese-government-donate-trump-reelection-wsj-2020-6

It was a bad week for China on the world stage.

President Biden is getting a warm reception in Europe rallying our democratic allies in the G7, the EU and NATO.

And at home, US Senate somehow managed to pass a $250 billion bill countering China.

Biden is finally "Making America Great Again"!

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

So you have the two largest states that are rich in many ways, but are also stricken with some of the highest poverty rate in the US. This is the exact reason why socialism doesn’t in a free and democratic society.

That’s the 36,000 level explanation of it. Good job bass4funk. Hitting the nail on the head yet again. Many states and cities in America are suffering terribly from Systemic Progressivism. On their current trajectory the suffering has no end in sight.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Money speaks louder than sensibility. All part of Biden's 'Throw in the Towel' policy.

PS... your next.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

So you have the two largest states that are rich in many ways, but are also stricken with some of the highest poverty rate in the US. This is the exact reason why socialism doesn’t in a free and democratic society.

You have it backwards. It is market capitalism that has made the cost of housing in California so high. The very same tech companies who's global sales make California's GDP so high, over $3Trillion, number 5 GDP in the world, pay their employees enormous salaries. It is those high salaries that are driving housing prices to the moon in the big coastal cities. That is market capitalism at work. Those big tech companies hire lots and lots of highly educated people from all over the US and the world who move to CA and compete for homes. That drives prices up. No socialism at all. The housing stock is privately owned and the market sets the price.

Some will say build more homes. Ok, how? High rise housing like China? Existing home owners won't allow it. A San Francisco legislator tried to pass a state law to force denser housing on transit corridors but it went down in flames due to organized home owner resistance. Is that socialism? Build more in the hills? I think the fire danger makes that choice kind of dumb. And obtw where is all the water coming from for all these new bodies? California has problems with housing but socialism isn't the cause. It would be nice if about ten million left the state but that too is a pipe dream. The climate and land are just too attractive.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Americans were told for several decades that "if we help China they will become more like us." Well, that didn't happen, did it?

I am inclined to think there is still some truth to that. People with no direct connection to China don't know the truth about how rank and file Chinese see their world. I would argue the west has had a huge impact on their economic and political expectations. Most Chinese are deeply dissatisfied with their government, chafe under their restrictions and deeply resent their inability to choose something else. In fact I would say China is a pressure cooker ready to explode and Mr. Xi has done nothing but turn the heat up on everyone. South Korea and Taiwan suffered under equally oppressive governments and endured great loss of life in uprisings that led fairly rapidly to the establishment of democratic government. Thousands of South Korean taxi drivers and shop keepers were killed in the Gwangju Uprising. Something we cannot predict, some outrage, will occur and break the dam in China. Xi has picked fights with the Uyghurs, Hong Kong and now is picking a fight with the Inner Mongolians who so far are not standing down from confrontation. He has been centralizing authority in Beijing, undoing the very freedom to innovate initiated by Deng that allowed China to grow so rapidly. He has nations all over the world angry at him and his trash talking diplomats. He is now suppressing the very wealthy and trying to effect state control of their businesses (which coincidentally or not is exactly what Kim Jong-un is trying to do on a smaller scale in North Korea). Entrepreneurs will look outside China to make their fortunes fearing becoming the next Jack Ma. Tech investment has fallen across the board in China as a result, The pressure is building in China. Xi is jugging a lot of sharp knives and has this habit of picking more fights and adding sharp knives to the juggling act. At some point he is going to drop some knives and hurt himself badly.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

If Japan and the EU don't step up they will become nothing but quaint tourist destinations for hordes of Chinese tourists.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

@Desert Tortoise I hope what you say comes to pass but I am doubtful simply because for 5000 years China's rulers have shared an almost identical mindset. What are the chances of that changing?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

What are the chances of that changing?

China has undergone many changes of government over those 5000 years. It has broken apart into competing dynasties many times only to be unified again by a new dynasty. There is a 100% chance of the CCP being cast aside and replaced.

More likely in the short term I think the CCP will push Xi out and replace him in an internal coup. There was an attempt by the PLA to depose him in late 2017. It was that coup attempt that led to four top PLA going to prison for life, one of whom committed suicide. It was the reason Xi eliminated term limits on the positions of CCP General Secretary and PRC President and at the same time eliminated age limits for members of the Politburo. Those age limits and term limits were designed to prevent the recurrence of another Mao and to promote new blood and new ideas into the top Chinese leadership at regular intervals. The CCP is very far from uniform. It is filled with factions each competing with the others for power and money. Faction leaders have patronage armies loyal to their faction leader and who rise in rank as their patron rises in rank. Xi Jinping has been waging an open war on all the competing factions arrayed against him in the CCP. He couches it as fighting corruption but it is really an old fashioned party purge. Xi and his patronage army are as corrupt as any other.

The upshot is that you have a lot of high ranking CCP members living in fear for their lives and the lives of their families. Xi is widely hated in China. He is also hated within the PLA. But the press there is censored and nobody dares say anything in public. Look what happened to Jack Ma after mildly chastising the party. That censorship also prevents the world from hearing the voices of the Chinese and their opinions of their situation. But China in some ways is like the old USSR that looked so strong and frightening until suddenly one day the hollowness inside became painfully apparent and it collapsed on itself. The CCP has only one response to the people's unhappiness and that is more repression. Where do you think that ends? Their days are numbered.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

@Desert Tortoise, sure, the CCP will one day be cast off. Of course, it will. But it is unlikely that China will have its own French or American Revolution. No, instead, another authoritarian regime will be in command. The Chinese will simply trade one master for another, just like they have always done.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

The CCP led a victorious revolution not so long ago in 1949. Interest in China's revolutionary history has increased in recent years in China.

It is ironic that the western anti-communist right wingers pretend to be revolutionaries, when in fact they are reactionaries. Trump's fascist followers play this same game all the time.

For those who are making ridiculous predictions of a coup in China, they should admit that a failed coup attempt just occurred in the US in January.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

China is turning Marxist-Leninist socialism

China like Russia uses Stalinist capitalism. not that different from fascism.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

But it’s not, look at California, we don’t want the country to look like that mismanaged State.

Because California does not operate socialism with an authoritarian mindset. China and Vietnam are largely successful in socialism because they are willing to use forces crushing down any dissent thought. California is mired in conflicts of interests between the bureaucracy and big businesses, so nothing is ever done in the state.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

China only thinks about China, greed greed control!! They deny even the truth!! China doesn't know anything about the truth!!

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Login to leave a comment

Facebook users

Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts.

Facebook Connect

Login with your JapanToday account

User registration

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites