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Bronco

NATO wants to weaken Russia.

However the 30 countries of NATO are too scared of the Russian Military to challenge that it directly.

Do you seriously believe that? The Russian have been bogged down in Ukraine for a month, suffered enormous casualties, had 6 generals killed, and that is against the Ukrainian military.

NATO would wipe the Russian military out.

The reason they don't want a direct military confrontation is that they don't want to back an unhinged autocrat who has nuclear weapons into a corner.

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Global system is deeply intermingled and Europe needs Russian energy. So, Nato members are very reluctant to go further. They think that it's too risky to interfere further. That was clear right from the start.

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Macron is playing pocket snooker as usual.

All the big smiles on the leaders faces makes it all look like a big joke and not the sincere atmosphere that's appropriate with all the lives being lost and extreme possibility of world war.

Its disgusting and disappointing.

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Biden is a true civil servant that believes he and everyone else in the government work for us. I may not like all Biden’s decisions but I at least respect why he is making them.

Thank you Mr Putin, no one, not even FDR, has ever united the entire world like you have...I understand it isn't exactly what you wanted to do, but you own it! You United the entire planet...have a nice day...

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Biden said that sanctions really don’t work and so he’s basically saying, I won’t do anything on the matter of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1507062066171027460?s=21

Once again this guy is all over the map.

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NATO wants to weaken Russia.

After reading about Putin's Russia invading a sovereign nation and slaughtering children, women and innocent elderly people, I think most reasonable adults (that would not include the Zazi Qs) worldwide would prefer a weaker Russia, especially knowing not a word spoken by any Russian leader can be believed.

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Its disgusting and disappointing.

But still unable to criticize the Russian invasion and and the Russian stormtrooper's wanton destruction of a sovereign nation?

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False flag chemical weapons attack coming!

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All the big smiles on the leaders faces makes it all look like a big joke and not the sincere atmosphere that's appropriate with all the lives being lost and extreme possibility of world war

i couldn’t agree more.

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Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

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I won’t do anything on the matter of Ukraine.

I think by not getting directly involved militarily Biden and others in the West believing that limits the chances of the Q Zazi idol going nuke, Biden has done a lot. Probably not all Westerners think like Steve Bannon, Trump's sons and some Republicans that Putin has Christian values, primarily because Putin is anti-LGBTQ, and anti-woke. https://ndsmcobserver.com/2022/03/putin-isnt-the-defender-of-christian-values-evangelicals-think-he-is/

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/donald-trump-jr-rejects-jesuss-turn-the-other-cheek.html

https://www.dailyadvent.com/news/2c680ebaa4a4474f37576e111be2c9d6-Steve-Bannon-suggests-Americans-should-support-antiwoke-Putin-because-Russia-doesnt-have-Pride-flags

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Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

Good luck convincing the Conspiracy Theorists of that! They have already made up their mind.

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Biden says he thinks Russia should be removed from G20

https://www.kitco.com/news/2022-03-24/Biden-says-he-thinks-Russia-should-be-removed-from-G20.html

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@Bronco

“NATO wants to weaken Russia.”

No. NATO wants to weaken the war criminal Putin’s Russia and his corrupt gang of oligarchs.

”. . . the 30 countries of NATO are too scared of the Russian Military to challenge it directly.”

Have you checked the scoreboard recently?! 15,000 Russian soldiers KIA. 5 major generals killed. 20,000 Russian soldiers wounded. In one month! That’s what you call a disaster. Russia might be making an unforgivable mess all over Ukraine as it destroys cities and murdering (deliberately, mind you) women and children, but nobody respects Russia now. . . they hate Putin’s Russia but nobody respects it. How does it feel?

”Instead they’ll just use Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia.”

What a bunch of gibberish! As if NATO is responsible for the mess Russia now finds itself in. That’s too much!

”The Ukrainians have been made sacrificial pawns in a geopolitical game.”

For geopolitical pawns, they’re proving to be better soldiers and a better army than the invading Russians, aren’t they? How does it feel? It’s a shame that so much of Russia is blind to the truth, but when the soldiers stop coming home then the Russian families will understand why their men aren’t ever coming home again and Putin will have no place to hide. Putin is more alone tan before and he’s more desperate than before, so he might use chemical weapons with a scorched earth policy in mind. Sound familiar?

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I think by not getting directly involved militarily Biden and others in the West believing that limits the chances of the Q Zazi idol going nuke,

We have nukes as well. So Vlad can threaten us, but we can’t threaten him back?

Biden has done a lot.

Except for giving what Zelenskyy and other Ukrainians specifically asked for.

Probably not all Westerners think like Steve Bannon, Trump's sons and some Republicans that Putin has Christian values, primarily because Putin is anti-LGBTQ, and anti-woke. 

Wait, what does that have anything to do with what Biden is not doing according to Zelenskyy?

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Biden, in an early evening news conference after the meetings, warned that a chemical attack by Russia “would trigger a response in kind."

“You’re asking whether NATO would cross. We’d make that decision at the time,” Biden said.

Now would anyone here be surprised if suddenly the Red line "chemical weapons" is used once the official position is for NATO to intervene if used?

It seems very "Nostradamus" that each time Zelensky or a western leader says something like "Russian are doing this" or "Russia will do that" and no facts or proof, it suddenly happens in a very "shocking" way.

I don't believe in this many "coincidences"!

No I am not saying the west is doing it but if you are losing and want attention and help making the bad guy look even worse may be worth a few unwilling sacrifices!

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Sanctions don’t deter anything, says Joe Biden.

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Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

That is absolutely correct.

Russia recognizes now, that they will probably lose this war, (basicaly in front of the whole world, Russia lost already), so they do not hesitate to use each possibility to change their loss to a win.

And that includes chemical weapons.

And if Russia starts to use chemical weapons, which is easy to proove, we are in the third world war,...and not to forget...start by Russia!

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Biden said that sanctions really don’t work and so he’s basically saying, I won’t do anything on the matter of Ukraine

Why do you constantly misquote, or only quote part of what Biden says? His response was more nuanced than, "sanctions don't work." Please see below:

Sanctions never deter.  The maintenance of sanctions — the maintenance of sanctions, the increasing the pain, and the demonstration — why I asked for this NATO meeting today — is to be sure that after a month, we will sustain what we’re doing not just next month, the following month, but for the remainder of this entire year.  That’s what will stop him.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/03/24/remarks-by-president-biden-in-press-conference-7/

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CrickyToday  07:56 am JST

Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

Really, I have the knowledge, as do hundreds of thousands of people in Japan to create a very simple chemical weapon all it takes is the basic materials an delivery system.

Any government has access to these standard industrial chemicals and all they need is a tuck or airplane.

2 phased reaction chemical poison is as simple as a few 45 Gallo drums and glass jars.

Oh they would be very primitive, not very effective on a wider area but the result it a "chemical weapons attack" easy to verify by residual chemicals.

Now just point the finger at the opponent.

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No I am not saying the west is doing it but if you are losing and want attention and help making the bad guy look even worse may be worth a few unwilling sacrifices!

russia has history of using terrifying weapons, such as were used in Syria & Chechnya.

the west don’t have to do anything to make Russia look bad (or worse). The Russians are doing a great job of that by themselves

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Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

Not really. Ask the Al Qaida allies of the west in Syria. Have a few guys set up the scene along with a few actors. Start recording a few guys laying on the ground getting doused in water and then to make it more realistic, grab a kid off street, drag him into the scene and start dousing him with water so that he can hardly breathe. Of course the kid is going to be freaking out.

Release the video and have Western governments and corporate media scream about a chemical weapons attack. Label anyone raising questions a "Russian troll" and/or "conspiracy theorist". Then to make it a fait accompli, have NATO bomb the site of the attack before any investigation can be carried out.

That aside, a false flag attack means a real attack but blamed on the wrong entity.

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His response was more nuanced than, "sanctions don't work." 

that’s good. because I didn’t say he said “sanctions don’t work”.

Biden- “sanctions do not deter”

Me- Biden said sanctions don’t deter anything.

is it so different?

“Nuance” - why someone didn’t really say what they said. Because what they actually said doesn’t match my view of what they should have said.

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Why do you constantly misquote, or only quote part of what Biden says? His response was more nuanced than, "sanctions don't work." Please see below

Joe Biden, March 24: "Sanctions never deter."

Jake Sullivan, Feb. 11: "The president believes sanctions are intended to deter.

Complete Biden quotes. No misunderstandings.

Biden and his administration again sending completely opposite messages.

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Yes, the G7 warned Russia not to use chemical weapons such as Agent Orange which the Brits used in Malaya and the Americans used in South-East Asia.

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Biden and his administration again sending completely opposite messages.

Only if you listened to only that part and then stopped listening. Keep listening/reading:

Sanctions never deter.  The maintenance of sanctions — the maintenance of sanctions, the increasing the pain, and the demonstration — why I asked for this NATO meeting today — is to be sure that after a month, we will sustain what we’re doing not just next month, the following month, but for the remainder of this entire year.  That’s what will stop him.

It's quite clear to all who aren't partisan hacks that Biden is saying sanctions need to stay in place long term. Merely slapping sanctions on Russia and ending them prematurely won't deter them, but keeping them in place long term will.

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we will sustain what we’re doing not just next month, the following month, but for the remainder of this entire year.  That’s what will stop him.

so if “we” sustain what “we” are doing for the remainder of the year, he will stop THEN?

you were better off not posting the entire statement, just made it worse.

whats the “nuance” here? That he really meant Putin will stop today but this entire year was mentioned for some unrelated reason?

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AS - This is what military intelligence does. They don't always broadcast it, but in a case like this where they were calling out what the Russians were going to do pre-invasion, there is a benefit to doing so. If they had just kept quiet, then there would have been a much better chance of any Russian false flags working to draw public opinion to their side.

It seems very "Nostradamus" that each time Zelensky or a western leader says something like "Russian are doing this" or "Russia will do that" and no facts or proof, it suddenly happens in a very "shocking" way.

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Russia recognizes now, that they will probably lose this war, (basicaly in front of the whole world, Russia lost already), so they do not hesitate to use each possibility to change their loss to a win.

The only people that keep saying Russia has already loss are the same people that are crying for more help, no flu zones, more weapons and cleaning to a faint hope that NATO will intervene.

While they steadily lose ground every day to Russia.

I am not happy with what Russia is doing but I am not stupid as to think Ukraine is winning or will win.

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but keeping them in place long term will.

So we just have to wait 8 months more for Putin to finally become “deterred” later?

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CrickyToday  07:56 am JST

Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

Really, I have the knowledge, as do hundreds of thousands of people in Japan to create a very simple chemical weapon all it takes is the basic materials an delivery system.

Any government has access to these standard industrial chemicals and all they need is a tuck or airplane.

2 phased reaction chemical poison is as simple as a few 45 Gallo drums and glass jars.

Oh they would be very primitive, not very effective on a wider area but the result it a "chemical weapons attack" easy to verify by residual chemicals.

Now just point the finger at the opponent.

@AS

Crickys statement says nothing about making them. Slow down man take a breath.

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You can hear what's happening straight from the mouths of ordinary citizens in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3dv8Xxo0-Q

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@pukey - You asked a question:

https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/oligarchs-weaponized-cyprus-eranch-of-ukraines-largest-bank-to-send-5-billion-abroad

Pretty hard to fake a chemical attack, pretty easy to verify one.

They were faked in Syria. It's not as difficult as you'd expect.

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AS - I agree that the Bush Administration messed that up big time. I was against a war to invade Iraq then and I am against a war to invade Ukraine now.

However, the fact that they got it right this time (the lead-up to the invasion) when so many were thinking it would never happen give them credit where credit is due.

Were you one of the few who correctly predicted that Russia would invade Ukraine, or did you get it wrong like I did?

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Only if you listened to only that part and then stopped listening.

No, we listened and those were his exact words.

Keep listening/reading: 

**Sanctions never deter.**  

The maintenance of sanctions — the maintenance of sanctions, the increasing the pain, and the demonstration —

Which haven’t slowed or stopped Putin.

why I asked for this NATO meeting today — is to be sure that after a month, we will sustain what we’re doing not just next month,

Is it helping or stopping the slaughtering?

the following month, but for the remainder of this entire year.  That’s what will stop him.

No, it won’t, he knows it, Putin and Xi know it.

It's quite clear to all who aren't partisan hacks that Biden is saying sanctions need to stay in place long term.

Yes, and by then Ukraine will be leveled to the ground and under Putin’s thumb and the Ukrainians won’t have a home to go back to.

Merely slapping sanctions on Russia and ending them prematurely won't deter them, but keeping them in place long term will.

Yes, in the meantime, did Zelenskyy get what he asked for? He was quite specific.

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Ukraine had years of opportunity to resolve this peacefully especially with the Minsk I & Ii agreements. Spurred on by the US and NATO, they choose not to.

Unless you want a nuclear war, you all might want to prepare yourself for Ukraine to be annexed. It’s one wrinkle in this fossil fuel power struggle.

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FizzBit - Should we just allow Russia to roll over the next country that they covet just because they threaten nuclear war? You understand why that is not sustainable, right?

Unless you want a nuclear war, you all might want to prepare yourself for Ukraine to be annexed. It’s one wrinkle in this fossil fuel power struggle.

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I am not happy with what Russia is doing but I am not stupid as to think Ukraine is winning or will win.

I would not bet on that.

So far it doesn't look good for the Russian army.

They feel it and they know it.

Therefore, the Russian's brutality and inhuman crimes are increasing day by day.

But yes, probably they will military win (especially if they use chemical weapons or nukes on the Ukraine).

But what does a military win counts, if you destroyed your own nation's economy, ruined completely the lives of your own people in your own country and abroad, if you threw back your own country to the 1950s, if your mass murder behaviour damaged the businesses, the lives and the images of all the nice and peacefull Russians living all over the world,

And additional, you completely destroyed the country you illegal invaded, burnt this country down to ashes with your bombs,.. killing women and children, who you said you want to free them from the Neo Nazis or whatever...

Is that really a win?

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“Let’s get something straight ... I did not say that in fact the sanctions would deter him," Biden said at a press conference from Brussels, where he is meeting with NATO leaders.

now I see where this after the fact “no one ever said….” stuff comes from. Except he and his representatives all did say it. Multiple times.

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Chemical weapons joke. Like the white helmets in Syria.

no news about proof of us funded bio labs in Ukraine and the connection to US companies, military and hunter biden.

companies for doubters…Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC (Biden),

US Agency for International Development, the George Soros Foundation, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

false flag on the way.

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However, the fact that they got it right this time (the lead-up to the invasion) when so many were thinking it would never happen give them credit where credit is due.

Oh please a blind dog saw this coming.

Ukraine was poking the bear for 8 years now, recognising a Nazi group OUN/UPA as Heroes in 2015, laws restricting more and more the rights of Russian minorities, then in July 2021 listening the official indigenous people of Ukraine including everyone except ethnic Russians.

If by that people didn't realise war was on its way then their head were buried deep in the sand.

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People always come up with examples from wars which happened in the past, and explaining how much bombs were used here and there, how much chemical weapons were used here and there, how much people were killed here and there...and so on.

Yes, but that happened in the past!

And we all, the whole world knows, how much sorrow, suffer and pain all those terrible things brought to the people and especially to our children.

Are we not supposed to learn from that?

Are we not supposed to learn our lessons from that?

So far it seems, that there is one country, called Russia, which didn't learn anything from the past.

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Russia could consider using its nuclear weapons if it felt there were “an existential threat for our country.”

This would ensure the end of Russia as we know it. It’s been 60 odd years since the end of the Second World War which is just about enough time for the collective horror of that war to be gone from those who were in it. As humans we are bound to continually make the same mistakes because we think we can do it better than our predecessors. I can see the same fumbling and bumbling around by the current bunch of politicians as we saw during Hitlers rise. While I do feel Putin has legitimate concerns about having NATO on his doorstep he currently has two NATO countries directly on his doorstep namely Latvia and Estonia but they constitute a small portion of Russia border with Europe. Ukraine however is behemoth in comparison and it penetrates deep into Russian territory. For the West not to understand Putin concerns is the real start of this war. It is Europe which is attempting empire building by swallowing up these poorer Countries and encroaching on Russian territory. I am pretty sure if the tables were turned the West would be doing the very thing Putin is doing.

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FizzBit - Should we just allow Russia to roll over the next country that they covet just because they threaten nuclear war? You understand why that is not sustainable, righ

Folks can’t suddenly decide they want to stop wold powers to stop “rolling over” countries because now it’s in your backyard.

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AS - well good for you for calling it correctly! Apparently the intelligence community did as well.

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FizzBit - sorry, I don't follow. Do we let Russia roll over the next country they choose to? Should we allow the US or China or India or any other country with nuclear weapon to just take whatever they want? I imagine that most people wouldn't approve of this.

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Do you Guys know the slogan:

Imagine there was a war, but nobody came.

When the Insane Mass Murderer Putin and his insane Mass Murderer Mob gave the order to their soldiers to invade the Ukraine, these soldiers should just say: No.

No, we do not go!

Wouldn't that be nice?

Then the world would be a real nice and safe place.

But unfortunately, there are too many war mongering idiots, who enjoy killing innocent men, women and children, living in this world, so that this slogan is unfortunately just a dream.

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NATO would wipe the Russian military out.

Thats what Napoleon and Hilter thought too. Didn’t happen did it? I would not count on it this time either. The Russians are a tough tenacious bunch and you don’t want to try and push them into a corner.

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No, we listened and those were his exact words.

You don't get to just ignore parts of a speech you don't like, to make your point. That is my misleading. He said:

Sanctions never deter.  The maintenance of sanctions — the maintenance of sanctions, the increasing the pain, and the demonstration — why I asked for this NATO meeting today — is to be sure that after a month, we will sustain what we’re doing not just next month, the following month, but for the remainder of this entire year.  That’s what will stop him.

He didn't say sanctions never work. Period. He was very clear, sanctions need to be ongoing to be effective.

Yes, and by then Ukraine will be leveled to the ground and under Putin’s thumb and the Ukrainians won’t have a home to go back to.

Now this is a fair point. What is your solution? Join the war, is that what you want? What isn't being done now, that you'd like to see done?

Yes, in the meantime, did Zelenskyy get what he asked for? He was quite specific.

Then you should be, too. What did Zelensky ask for, and not receive? Are you talking about a no-fly zone?

So we just have to wait 8 months more for Putin to finally become “deterred” later?

Could be 8 months, could be shorter. It really depends on how quickly Russia feels the bite of the sanctions. At any rate, it's not like a water tap, where turning the knob immediately produces water.

Lastly, you've already stated you don't really care what happens in Ukraine. Why does the thought of potentially waiting 8 months to see results bother you?

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The Russians are a tough tenacious bunch and you don’t want to try and push them into a corner.

Ukrainians too!

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This 'chemical weapons' meme is being pushed so much and so widely by the West that one cannot help but suspect it as a setup for false flag events such as we witnessed in Syria and elsewhere. And as for the doubtful claims by the Ukraine voices that Russia is using Willy-Peter in contravention of the Geneva Rules, it was used routinely over Iraqi cities by the U.S., dropped on rooftops where it would burn down through the entire structure to the basements where women and children sheltered, for which there is much photographic evidence if one looks for it.

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Imagine there was a war, but nobody came.

Yeah they tried that, it was called the Vietnam war where a load of Americans ran to my country Canada so they didn't have to go.

So the government just picked young a poorer man form the backwaters and minorities.

Worked great back then didn't it 8 years of USA involvement in that war!

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Once again this guy is all over the map.

We should be glad to have a President who knows the map!

The previous one probably would have used a Sharpie to show Ukraine as a part of Russia and justify the invasion.

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A month later, more warnings. I would have thought Biden has learnt something by now. When he warns Putin not to do something, Putin does, exactly what he is warned against.

Good luck getting NK and Iran to give up their nukes ambition now. Worse, good luck getting China, India & Pakistan to join nuclear non-proliferation.

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UChosePoorlyToday  09:45 am JST

The Russians are a tough tenacious bunch and you don’t want to try and push them into a corner.

Ukrainians too!

Nope historically they weren't and aren't unless their opponents are weak and unarmed.

They cooperated with Germany in ethnic cleansing, before the war UPA would attack and kill non Ukrainians but avoid Russians because far to many and to strong so the attacked and killed minority Poles Latvians and Jews.

They barely resisted during imperial Russia, or the Soviet Union.

All the way back to Kievan Russ they asked the Russ to return because they couldn't administer their territory or defendant and needed the Russ to do it for them.

History is very clear the Russians are far more tenacious and willing to put up with way more difficult situations.

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He should warn us that Russia is getting out of Ukraine! We could put your theory to the test!

A month later, more warnings. I would have thought Biden has learnt something by now. When he warns Putin not to do something, Putin does, exactly what he is warned against.

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AS - I guess we shall see! I know I am hoping for the Ukrainians to survive with their independence and a minimum of further death and destruction. How about you?

History is very clear the Russians are far more tenacious and willing to put up with way more difficult situations.

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Iraq has WMD, Libya making nuclear weapons, Syria is using chemical weapons, Russia is using chemical weapons, Russia may use chemical weapons, etc...

Is there an Echo?

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The Russians are a tough tenacious bunch and you don’t want to try and push them into a corner.

Ukrainians too!

Yeah, that's why the Ukranian forces are looking for foreign fighters and MEDICS to act as human shields on the frontline. Confiscating their passports, forcing them to sign a one-year agreement.

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Pukey - both sides are employing foreign fighters. This is not that unusual in war.

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UChosePoorlyToday  09:58 am JST

AS - I guess we shall see! I know I am hoping for the Ukrainians to survive with their independence and a minimum of further death and destruction. How about you?

I have known many ethnic Ukrainians in Canada, all have been extremely R.... especially towards Poles, Jews, and others. Their history has shown this as well as the laws passed since 2014.

Yes I wish it would survive as an independent country but I also would want oversight by at least the western powers.

I do not believe Crimea or the eastern parts majority ethnic Russian are wanted or safe in Ukraine and it would be better for all sides if Russia and Ukraine pulled out of these areas, leave Ukrainian areas as independent Ukraine, these Russian areas including Crimea a temporary status overseen by the UN giving them time to decide if they want independence, rejoin Ukraine or join Russia.

But that last part is pure wishful thinking.

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You don't get to just ignore parts of a speech you don't like, to make your point.

No, of course not and that’s why I’m zeroing in as well as the media on what his exact words were and words matter according to the left that hold the right accountable for every sentence.

He didn't say sanctions never work.

Yeah, he did. Joe Biden, March 24: "Sanctions never deter."

Which equates to: “they don’t work.”

Now this is a fair point. What is your solution? Join the war, is that what you want? What isn't being done now, that you'd like to see done? 

To give Zelenskyy what he specifically asked for, a NFZ and MiG-29s other than that, Biden is just talking and he needs to do more listening to what the people that are being attacked need and not impose and tell the Ukrainians what HE thinks they need.

Could be 8 months, could be shorter. It really depends on how quickly Russia feels the bite of the sanctions.

In other words: Ukrainians, good luck!

Lastly, you've already stated you don't really care what happens in Ukraine.

I care about people and don’t want to see any innocent people especially children die, but when we have a weak President that refuses to act in the sense of giving the Ukrainian President what he specifically asked for is disgraceful especially when he goes around the world pridefully claiming he’s doing and sticking to helping the Ukrainians. Every hear what these people are saying about this man? Check online quite astounding. Biden is sitting in a nice and safe and secure place. He has no idea what these people are going through.

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Thanks for your response, AS!

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To give Zelenskyy what he specifically asked for, a NFZ and MiG-29s 

Sure a no fly zone, who will enforce it? What country is ready to have missiles drop on their capital city?

MiG 29 a 40 year old plane, great what will that do?

People keep telling us how Russia's more advanced jets are being *knocked out of the air" by Ukrainian SAMs how will a few 40 year old MiG 29 do against Russian SAM and more modern jets?

The fantasies just keep coming!

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UChosePoorly - No easy answer but if the US, UK, NATO wanna roll over countries off continent, while overthrowing governments on continent, then nobody should be shocked, disgusted, etc at Russians reaction. This war could stop in a minute. If you can’t or won’t recognize the violence of the major powers for the last decades especially after the Cold War, of which Russia was NOT a part of, then you will never be able to see the big picture and will be stuck in this us vs them circle. The MSM, now feeding the lies by ignoring the history are one of the big culprits, and they NEVER attempted to stop the biggest lie of the last decades which was the US invasion of Iraq. Ignorance has consequences.

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FizzBit - The US, UK, NATO, etc. were wrong to roll over foreign countries and so is Russia.

Would you be ok with Russia swooping in to take the Baltics, Moldova, Poland? I'm not asking if you would be shocked, disgusted, etc. by it. I am asking you if you think we should do nothing about it.

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what chemical weapons Joe?

did you mean these Russia have destroyed under international supervision years ago?

or did you mean ones USA owns as one and only country in the world and yes may supply these to azov guys for fase flag attack?

sure guys from your office have rich experience from Syria where according to mainstream corrupted media Assad have used chemical weapons against civilians...remember these fake stages mannequin videos from production of white helmets?

just to make sentence complete-there were no chemical weapons used in Syria by syrian arab army at all-no evidences found even by specialist from UN so yes whole thing was just pure antirussian and antisyrian propaganda man...

does media think that people are loosing memory very easy?

put all pieces as domino and will get full picture.one and only chemical weapons may be used may be ones owned by USA...

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We should be glad to have a President who knows the map!

Oh this one, he KNOWS where Ukraine is. Believe that.

This place has been the money maker for the entire family for years.

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The Ukrainians have been made sacrificial pawns in a geopolitical game.

That they have, but there's more. Remember, Russia waged a one-week occupation war in Kazakhstan to reinstate a new puppet at the helm. Now it's Ukraine but the people there ain't standing for it. And NATO is hitting them with sanctions, given time they will hurt.

zichiToday  09:59 am JST

Biden's America is the only country to use weapons of mass destruction and chemical agents against populations.

Iraq used chemical agents on its Kurds, and Iranian troops during the 1980-1988 Iraq-Iran War. Libya used chem weapons on its rebels in 2011, which led to the NATO intervention. Syria has been doing the same on its rebels and ISIS. And Russia on Chechnya. Chemical warfare isn't new, WW1 was the first time it happened.

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did you mean these Russia have destroyed under international supervision years ago?

or did you mean ones USA owns as one and only country in the world 

Ok despite what some think I prefer accuracy not politics.

Depending on how you calculate chemical weapons Russia has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons still at this point but if you include biological weapons in that then it is the United States that has the largest stockpile those are facts from multiple sources including the CIA handbook which isn't actually "the CIA".

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The AvengerToday  07:43 am JST

Biden is a true civil servant that believes he and everyone else in the government work for us. I may not like all Biden’s decisions but I at least respect why he is making them.

Thank you Mr Putin, no one, not even FDR, has ever united the entire world like you have...I understand it isn't exactly what you wanted to do, but you own it! You United the entire planet...have a nice day...

he's reestablishing NATO unity because he knows it's essential. All Presidents from 1946 to 2016 knew this. Clinton rallied NATO to deal with the ruckuses Milosevic (and others) were causing in Yugoslavia. Obama rallied NATO to deal with the greater danger that Qaddafi was posing in 2011. Trump blubbered that NATO was obsolete and he alienated them because he is a sputnik to Russia. Joe, like ALL real Presidents before him, is doing his job because realizes the awful situation that has manifested itself. And I mean that all previous Republican party Presidents (except trump) would be doing the exact same thing right now too.

When you are POTUS you wear the hat of the diplomat. Joe is simply doing his job.

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Look at the state of Johnson. He doesn't have the basic courtesy to brush his hair or do up his tie correctly.

The man is unfit for any office - I would certainly fire him from mine - and he is our face in these perilous times?

This England, that was wont to conquer others, hath made a shameful conquest of herself.

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@antique

MiG 29 a 40 year old plane, great what will that do?

The US AF air superiority fighter, the F-15, is 46 years old. It depends how good its weapons systems and onboard electronics are.

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There is a serious flaw in western sanctions sanctions policy.

European partners energy policy is loony tunes.

The irony.

EU Russin gas/oil/coal dependence is the essential element financing Putin war with Ukraine.

Measured in billions of dollars. EU energy security is also high risk.

If Putin were to cut off supply, the resulting damage to the Europe economic model could be even more catastrophic then the sanctions forced on Russia.

I see Boris Johnson dressed for the occasion. Did Johnson step off the plan, or was inadvertently dragged behind it.

He appear like a sack of potato's with a wig.

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Call it whatever you like but DPR forces are in control of city and hostilities have ceased. Ukraine/NATO no longer has access to the Sea Of Azov.

When Russia takes control of a Ukrainian city, that's not liberation. It's occupation.

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Joe, like ALL real Presidents before him, is doing his job because realizes the awful situation that has manifested itself.

We keep hearing what Biden is doing. Duly noted, but the harsh reality is: whatever Biden is doing is not what Zelenskyy wants or asked for and second, Biden can talk all he wants but it’s not stopping Putin, it only made him dig his heels in further, so once again, how is this man doing an outstanding job? Don’t look at it from the msm POV in glowing terms, look at it from the perspective eyes of the dictator in Russia and the the victims who are being attacked. That’s what a real President would do.

And I mean that all previous Republican party Presidents (except trump) would be doing the exact same thing right now too. 

Well, for 4 years we didn’t have any wars or incidents-none. That’s because our adversaries knew the former President was crazy and now look with this President, our enemies emboldened Putin unhinged, China calculating and making strategic future plans for Taiwan, Kim becoming more belligerent, the Saudis not even taking Biden’s calls and this administration ready to make a deal with the Iranians that even people in the former Obama administration are deeply worried about all this within a span of 18 months

When you are POTUS you wear the hat of the diplomat. Joe is simply doing his job.

Not according to the Ukrainians.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/feb/25/zelenskyy-speaks-biden-after-he-accuses-us-not-doi/

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He appear like a sack of potato's with a wig.

dont like Boris but at least his hair is real, if you want a sack of potatoes with an actual wig look no further than cult45

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JeffLeeToday  10:59 am JST

@antique

MiG 29 a 40 year old plane, great what will that do?

The US AF air superiority fighter, the F-15, is 46 years old. It depends how good its weapons systems and onboard electronics are

Sorry Jeff but no.

The F-15 of 40 years ago has little or nothing to do with the F-15ex of today.

Why they even call it F-15 anymore is a mystery.

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FizzBit - The US, UK, NATO, etc. were wrong to roll over foreign countries and so is Russia.

Would you be ok with Russia swooping in to take the Baltics, Moldova, Poland? I'm not asking if you would be shocked, disgusted, etc. by it. I am asking you if you think we should do nothing about it.

Poland and the Baltics are NATO members so your question is rather silly.

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No, of course not and that’s why I’m zeroing in as well as the media on what his exact words were and words matter according to the left that hold the right accountable for every sentence.

No. You're taking parts of Bidens answer and pretending that is the only thing he said, which of course not true. His quote, when read in it's entirety is clear, and not at all what you claim he said.

To give Zelenskyy what he specifically asked for, a NFZ and MiG-29s other than that, 

1) The US doesn't have Migs. We don't make them, we don't fly them.

2) An establishing an NFZ would require defending it, which of course means the US would be going to war with Russia. Is that what you?

In other words: Ukrainians, good luck!

Not at all. The US and the west have been sending Ukraine aid, and I see no reason that won't continue. What would you rather them do?

care about people and don’t want to see any innocent people especially children die, but when we have a weak President that refuses to act in the sense of giving the Ukrainian

None of this is true, and I wasn't responding to you anyway. The person I was responding to has made it clear they don't want the US to help in any way.

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dont like Boris but at least his hair is real, if you want a sack of potatoes with an actual wig look no further than cult45

oh yeah THIS stays, of course.

but discussion of Germany (an actual member of NATO) and their reliance on Russian energy (Cult 45 said its not good) not allowing them to be effective in sanctioning Russia, thats totally off topic.

Sure thing.

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No. You're taking parts of Bidens answer and pretending that is the only thing he said,

No, I’m going by exactly what he said. Now either Biden man’s up and owns his statements or his just not suited for the job and we just have to have his press brief staff cover for him, this makes it even more clear as why the media predominantly are not allowed to ask him a lot of questions. Again, please apply the same standards you would if he were a Republican President. Clarity is everything.

1) The US doesn't have Migs.

No, but the US has sway over NATO and since we are paying for most of it. We can ask our NATO partners in Poland to provide them with the planes.

2) An establishing an NFZ would require defending it,

Exactly! Vlad is not the only one that can intimidate and threat, we can as well.

Not at all. The US and the west have been sending Ukraine aid,

Ok, seems like everyone outside of Ukraine are not listening to what Zelenskyy specifically asked for. The rest is good of course, but they really want to win this war and keep Putin in his heels. Ask Zelenskyy and he will tell you what he needs again

None of this is true, and I wasn't responding to you anyway.

This is an open forum, we all can respond.

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