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I don't think the canadian authorities will buy into story. Mr. Canty just wants get out of the hood & smooch off canadad taxpayers. If he is a law abiding person, he shouldn't be fearful.

Chances are higher that he more likely to be killed by another Black males.

I'd like to see Canty's rap sheet, credit score and educational background.

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If he is a law abiding person, he shouldn't be fearful.

Don't you mean, "If he were a law abiding white person, he shouldn't be fearful"?

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Clever.

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Clever...perhaps. Absurd...absolutely!

@ Galapagos....did the media reprogram you also? Police do a job, just as doctors do their job. As with both on rare occasions something goes wrong and on even rarer occasions it is intentional. If low income communities were more respectable far fewer arrests would be made and resistance in arrests would be fewer.

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Very clever. Interesting to see if it will work out for him.

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If low income communities were more respectable far fewer arrests would be made and resistance in arrests would be fewer.

If serfs were more respectable far fewer arrests would be made and resistance in arrests would be fewer.

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Come to America I'll take to inner city neighborhoods you only read about then judge afterward If it's a happy place and why. Until you walk the walk you haven't a clue!

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That's Rich! - maybe if Canada refuses him he can trace his roots and apply to the Nation of his bloodline. Many white youth are brutalised by police & murdered as well but those cases are deliberatly ignored by the liberal media. I grew up in Bushwick Brooklyn & have lived in many rough areas & cops didn't take no quarter & were free with the Night stick No matter if you were black.white or latino! as for this fellow, GOOD LUCK WIT DAT!!

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As of September 1st, 2015- 776 people killed by police with 161 unarmed. 32% of the unarmed were African American. This is going by mid-year statistics.

93% of African Americans killed come by the hands of other African Americans.

If he wants to go to Canada, it is freedom to try and do so just like we are here in Japan.

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If serfs were more respectable far fewer arrests would be made and resistance in arrests would be fewer

No that is not the root cause of the problem with serf's, this is the problem:

The latest incident this week involved a white police officer who was filmed manhandling a disruptive black female student in a high school in South Carolina.

When you have a breakdown where students don't obey the adults who are there to teach them, and disrupt the learning environment so those that may want to learn can't due to your disruption, then you get the after effects of people not being educated and with limited opportunities. With limited opportunities you become dependent on either government handouts, or crime. Depending on crime, you will not want to have a police presence in your area because that cuts into your way of life.

As a Black man who grew up in some "urban areas" I can tell you that I had more to fear from the other Blacks in my area that I grew up with than the police. Each year, one of the "community activists" from my hometown plants crosses in the ground to represent the numbers of Black on Black killings in the area. There is always about 20 or so every year (from a mid sized southern city made famous by the Clintons). These cases are not the result of police brutality, but brutality from each other over petty crimes.

Disrespecting authority at a young age leads to problems in later life. Amazing how the media is rallying to the girl, who was in the wrong after refusing to put down her cell phone and leave the class after the teacher, and another school administrator asked her to do so before the cop arrived, and who also hit the cop when he first went physical with her after he had asked her to depart. She gets all of the attention, but those who may have been in the class and wanting to learn are not heard from, or the other students defend the one in the wrong. This then carries over to the adult world when people see and know who are doing the bad things, and the police time and time again have to go to the same places and deal with the same people trying to assist those who want to live in the community in peace yet they can't get any assistance.

Let him go to Canada. They have their own set of social ills also.

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Of course, with the turfing of Harper and his Cons, odds have increased that this case will be decided by the FACTS, rather than the ideological alignment between Harper and the country being fed.

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only a handful of U.S. citizens are granted asylum in this country each year

This fact surprised me.

I had no idea Canada had given asylum to any U.S. citizens since the Vietnam war. Since the article states that Iraq war resisters (AWOL service members?) were refused asylum, I wonder who the Canadian government has granted it to in recent years, and on what grounds.

Anyway, with much of U.S. law enforcement having seemingly abandoned "to protect and serve" in favor of "shoot to kill, ask questions later," and equipped with heavy weaponry and paramilitary tactics, combined with the ammosexual open carry types, this man's application for asylum no longer seems absurd. If Canada won't grant it to him, maybe another U.S. ally (like Japan) will.

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On the contrary, they both made valid points.

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Sensato: Anyway, with much of U.S. law enforcement having seemingly abandoned "to protect and serve" in favor of "shoot to kill, ask questions later," ...

2015 pop. est. 322,014,853. 2015 est. of homicides by police, 1,240. A 0.000003851-in-1 chance of being one of those homicides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

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Uh...yeah. I don't want him up here. There's enough crazy above the 49th Parallel. Don't need to add to it.

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@Strangerland,

No valid points at all. They made blanket statements with no specific data. They just go to the default setting that every cop is racist. There are bad ones for sure but it`s very easy to say everyone is just racist in the world we live in.

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Uh...yeah. I don't want him up here. There's enough crazy above the 49th Parallel. Don't need to add to it.

How do you know he is crazy?

No valid points at all. They made blanket statements with no specific data. They just go to the default setting that every cop is racist.

They haven't stated that, neither is it inferred from their comments.

There are bad ones for sure

Exactly - which is why this guy is trying to get away from them.

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Alphaape. exactly. If you watch the video you'll notice the other students aren't trying to help here and aren't defending her verbally. They know she was out of line. As was the guy. But it wouldn't get to that stage if students were taught respect at home. And that is a hueg issue regardless of what colour you are.

As for this guy I hope his behind is sent back to the US with a bill for what he's costing Canadian taxpayers.

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Wow, when I was young we were taught to question authority when it was wrong. Now you people are seeming to promote blindly obeying authority no matter what. Such a change from the civil rights movements of the last century.

But for the sake of argument, lets skip that part, and assume she was in the wrong - the officer's actions are not justified regardless. He assaulted this girl in an unacceptable manner. He is a police officer, and she was a student, seated in a desk where the chair is connected to the desk. Not even remotely a threat. If he couldn't handle her in a more appropriate manner by himself, he should have called for backup.

So whether you think the girl was in the right or the wrong is irrelevant, and the police officer was in the wrong either way.

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They made blanket statements...They just go to the default setting that every cop is racist.

@pointofview

I hope you can see the irony in what you wrote, in making your own blanket statement claiming that I think EVERY cop is racist. I said nothing of the sort (and if you don't like blanket statements, you should probably avoid making blanket statements yourself.)

In fact, I didn't say anything whatsoever about law enforcement officers being racist — but if you must know my opinion on that, I think that most of them are NOT racist. What I did say, though, is that MUCH of U.S. law enforcement has become militarized and heavy handed.

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If I were black, I'd do the same thing.

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Not even remotely a threat. If he couldn't handle her in a more appropriate manner by himself, he should have called for backup.

So whether you think the girl was in the right or the wrong is irrelevant, and the police officer was in the wrong either way.

So, if more cops were called, then the cry would be too many cops doing excessive force. Still a no win situation for the cops. Remember, the student had been asked by the teacher and another school administrator. So the cop was the third person (adult) who asked a minor to do something and nothing was done. So I suppose you just let the kid just sit there and do her own thing and the rest of the students just have to try to learn around her and her ways. What if she was playing her music or talking on the phone in class? You are probably one of those who think that it is rude for persons to talk too loud or on the phones in trains. But it is ok for a lout like this kid to disrupt the class and deny others an educational opportunity.

Believe me, I have been around these types. Make it hard for those of us who wanted to learn, and the first time authority figures came in they mouth off and say that racist cops are to blame.

Wow, when I was young we were taught to question authority when it was wrong. Now you people are seeming to promote blindly obeying authority no matter what. Such a change from the civil rights movements of the last century.

It's still ok to question authority. I don't have an issue with that. But at the same time if you are in the wrong you need to realize that and not make a fuss. Not saying that I blindly believe that all cops are good, they aren't. But, at the same time I would teach my child not to cut up in class, nor when the police arrive to resist them in any way that would cause them to feel for their safety.

As for this guy, I wonder what his background is and if he had a criminal record.

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We have a new government in Canada now, and without federal little fingers that stopped people before for political reasons it'll be interesting if this works. Our own version of the Bush era just ended

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So, if more cops were called, then the cry would be too many cops doing excessive force.

Only if they used excessive force.

Remember, the student had been asked by the teacher and another school administrator.

Again that's irrelevant, because whether or not she was in the wrong, this cop used excessive force.

It's still ok to question authority. I don't have an issue with that. But at the same time if you are in the wrong you need to realize that and not make a fuss.

Civil disobedience and questioning authority only happen when there is a discrepancy between what is right and what is wrong.

Not saying that I blindly believe that all cops are good, they aren't.

I agree, I'm also not saying all cops are bad, in fact I think the overwhelming majority are good.

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LMAO....you think not being BLACK is gunna' save you from a physco cop? Think AGAIN.

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you think not being BLACK is gunna' save you from a physco cop?

Is that comment directed at someone or some comment in particular?

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Wc626: "'d like to see Canty's rap sheet, credit score and educational background."

He's black, so he automatically must have a rap sheet according to you? Yeah, but he's not discriminated against because he's black at all, right? Geez!

AlphaApe: "As for this guy, I wonder what his background is and if he had a criminal record."

Again, because he's black you guys wonder about his past and criminal record. Well done in proving the man's point!

"So whether you think the girl was in the right or the wrong is irrelevant, and the police officer was in the wrong either way."

The police officer was DEFINITELY in the wrong, and his history -- which has come to light because of this event and is extremely relevant -- proves that he has abused African-Americans in the past as well. Why do you think they were so quick to fire him after first sticking up for him? If there's any racism here, it's his. Perhaps if you guys were better at looking into the histories of law enforcement officials instead of just saying all black people must have rap sheets and what not, we wouldn't be in this kind of mess to begin with.

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I don't think the canadian authorities will buy into story. Mr. Canty just wants get out of the hood & smooch off canadad taxpayers. If he is a law abiding person, he shouldn't be fearful. Chances are higher that he more likely to be killed by another Black males. I'd like to see Canty's rap sheet, credit score and educational background.

You just went through the whole list of stereotypes. "Hood" "rap" " smooch". You doubt his credit score and educational credentials when you don't even know him. If there are private citizens out there who are ready to judge this guy like you did, I can just imagine what some racist cops with a gun and badge would do to him. I hope he gets Canadian citizenship.

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@Sensato, Here`s what you said in the first line of the second paragraph: Anyway, with much of U.S. law enforcement having seemingly abandoned "to protect and serve"

They havent. I didnt make a blanket statement. You are the one that said "MUCH" I`m totally against rogue cops too and I also believe they have become far too militarized but there are many who want to help.

@Strangerland,

Your simple one liners just don`t work. This guys reason for going to Canada is painting all cops with the same brush.

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Your simple one liners just don`t work. This guys reason for going to Canada is painting all cops with the same brush.

First you were talking about sensato and GG's comments, now you're talking about this guy's reason for going to Canada. Maybe you should figure out exactly what you are talking about, then make your statement.

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. . . black people in the United States “being exterminated at an alarming rate.”

They are . . . but not by police, by each other.

In the U.S. homicide is the leading cause of death among young black men, who are 10 times more likely than their white counterparts to be murdered. More than 90% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks.

Pretending that police behavior is the root of the problem is foolish.

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He's black, so he automatically must have a rap sheet according to you?

Considering in the story it states he was arrested in Salem, Oregon for trespassing (regardless of whether it was justified or not), he most certainly does.

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We have a new government in Canada now, and without federal little fingers that stopped people before for political reasons it'll be interesting if this works. Our own version of the Bush era just ended

So now you will have a NY and all other major cities in the States and out of control crime wave spiral out of control now just like we do in this Obama era.

Good luck to you guys.

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So now you will have a NY and all other major cities in the States and out of control crime wave spiral out of control now just like we do in this Obama era.

More tales from the bubble that don't reflect reality.

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It is a strong case. I hope he get asylum.

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He'd have better luck applying through the immigration process, if it wasn't for his rap sheet. He'll lose the asylum case, without doubt. As it should be.

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Hmmm, bizarre to say the least. Not every police officer in the US is Caucasian to begin with. Like I said I'm a black male that grew up in the projects. I was less worried being shot by the police than I was fearing a drive-by from the local Crips gang or drug dealers back in the day. Even now, I'm more worried about a crazy nut with a gun starting an altercation and pulling out a gun than I am some random police officer pointing a gun at me.

Sounds like he was guilty of a lot of misdemeanors such as loitering, and prosecuted for trespassing after they told him to leave. If people are breaking the law, law >>enforcement<< (there is a reason it's called that) has to enforce the law. He apparently wasn't carrying any weapons so they did not have to use deadly force. He's going to find out that in Canada, if he breaks the law, he's still going to have to deal with law enforcement there as well.

Over my life I haven't had any more than 2 negative interactions with the police, and have never gone to prison (hows that for statistical disruption about Black society). Probably because I was smart enough not to run around breaking laws. Plus I've seen a lot of ex-cons and other folks that "just got out of jail", every day on my to and from work every morning and evening. A lot of them aren't black, but they fear getting shot by the police... because well, they did some really stupid crap (Like felonies)to get them into prison in the first place, and many aren't smart enough to stop doing the same stupid crap that got them there before.

A Black comedian here put this out, "If you're young and stupid, you hate law enforcement. But when you actually own stuff and your own home that you worked a job for, you love the police! Because nobody can take your stuff without the police getting your back!"

And the only ones that fear law enforcement where I live are criminally minded folks to begin with. Cause y'know as the saying goes around in these kinds of neighborhoods, "Snitches wind up in ditches". I think I trust law enforcement much more than idiots that think like that.

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More tales from the bubble that don't reflect reality

Then how about trying to deal with it. That mot help.

Your simple one liners just don`t work. This guys reason for going to Canada is painting all cops with the same brush.

Most libs are just not good at political humor.

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The girl that is at the root of the problem was having a negative effect on most of her classmates before the altercation. 2 other adults had tried verbal requests to get her to change her behavior - and failed. We don't need students like this in our classrooms. It seems that it could be very very expensive to be politically correct with troublemakers if they are allowed to disrupt their classes and refuse to obey verbal requests from their administrators. So we'll pay for a PC cop to physically force her out of the class all the while being filmed and documented every inch of the way. Of course that won't leave much budget for actual classroom instruction. Irrational behavior by the student or cop is just wrong.

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More tales from the bubble that don't reflect reality

Then how about trying to deal with it.

I did deal with it. I pointed out how you were wrong, and living in a bubble.

Most libs are just not good at political humor.

"I know you are, but what am I?"

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SC report another girl wae arreated when she was trying to say to the sheriff to stop Crime of disturbinh pesce The video was shown all day long tor two days,

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Canty is full of crap.

“This is a well-rounded fear,”

Yeah it is. This is why common folks get nervous when they see black hoodlums in their neighborhoods. They're the ones getting mugged, burglarized, car-jacked all the time by those types. (M. Brown jacked cigars & assualted the store clerk)

In the hood, it's black gangbanger shooting rival blacks. They even sell dope to each other.

He's black, so he automatically must have a rap sheet according to you? Yeah, but he's not discriminated against because he's black at all, right? Geez!

You know he has a rap sheet. Bet his credit score is rock bottom. Why is he going through desperate measures to get into Canada? His life isn't in immediate danger from Law Enforcement.

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What a bunch of crap!

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Latest news ,,,,, The victim has been living in a foster home. It ford not matter if you are black or white, Wiasom ia don;t trust deputy sherlffs in some states like SC.

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I did deal with it.

Really? How? Was that the so called reality vortex of liberals and Dems?

I pointed out how you were wrong, and living in a bubble.

No, you just pointed that as in true liberal fashion, hypocrisy, backed in a corner and evading facts reigns supreme.

"I know you are, but what am I?"

Exactly, the point I was making.

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Just as expected, typical. roflmao

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The US doesn't have a racial problem (not more than any other nation at least). It's a poverty issue and how to deal with the mentally ill.

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Here's a video posted purportedly posted by Canty showing his interaction with the guards before his arrest. Apparently the cops when they showed up didn't agree with him, but he didn't include that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQopkXnT_zI

Re the girl in the chair, she went from not putting away her cellphone (or not giving it up), to refusing to leave class, through several instructions to leave by a teacher and then further instructions by a vice-principal and then a school resource officer who the school asked to remove the kid, and hit the cop while he was pulling her out of the chair, who threw her around before he arrested her. No telling how long all that took while the other kids wasted their time. And the kid could have stopped it at any point up to then, by doing what she's supposed to, and listening.

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AlphaApe

Yep. The only proper response to an insolent teen is to body slam them. If they fight back, break their neck.

Obviously.

BTW, your version of the event does not match the reporting on it.

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Black Sabbath: AlphaApe ... BTW, your version of the event does not match the reporting on it.

What doesn't match?

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All of it.

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Yep. The only proper response to an insolent teen is to body slam them. If they fight back, break their neck.

So what should he have done? Allow the girl to hijack the class? Talk to her, knowing that she was going to be defiant No matter what? Sorry, but there is no soft way to handle that kind of situation. She was being an obnoxious spoiled brat without care or consideration for the school, the teacher and her classmates, maybe he was a little bit rough and maybe he should have gotten a few weeks suspension, but to fire the guy? Complete nonsense and overkill. So once again, unruly kids win again. Had that been a White kid, this would not have been a headline story, wouldn't have been mentioned and even if it did, the officer wouldn't have been fired.

Disgusting!

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So what should he have done?

What he shouldn't have done is use excessive force.

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Flipping someone over is not exactly over-excessive. Like I said, had the student been White, we wouldn't have heard about this. So now this guys life is ruined and the girl gets to be defiant, that is a good example for kids to take now even more advantage of a situation like this. Now kids will think, I can do whatever I want and I can if anyone or any law enforcement official wants to stop me, I will be defiant. Nice, nice. This is why our society is going downhill, these liberal out of control draconian laws are abysmal and disgusting!

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Flipping someone over is not exactly over-excessive.

A fully grown police officer flipping over a non-agressive girl in her chair, then throwing her across the room, is most definitely excessive. That's why it's such an incident - people were horrified when they saw it.

Like I said, had the student been White, we wouldn't have heard about this.

I don't see how the student's color matters one way or another. I personally was shocked when I saw the video, and I didn't know the student was black the first time I saw it. I also don't see anything that says the officer did this because she was black. So there doesn't really appear to be anything to justify pulling the race card on either side.

So now this guys life is ruined

It's his own fault. If he hadn't used excessive force when it wasn't justified, he'd still have his job.

Now kids will think, I can do whatever I want and I can if anyone or any law enforcement official wants to stop me, I will be defiant.

That's no justification for excessive force. The converse side of it is that when the police use excessive force without justification, it weakens respect for them. That creates defiance.

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A fully grown police officer flipping over a non-agressive girl in her chair, then throwing her across the room, is most definitely excessive. That's why it's such an incident - people were horrified when they saw it.

Like Raven Simone said, she should've gotten off her phone. She started it, she escalated the situation once the teacher told her to leave and she wouldn't. Her fault.

I don't see how the student's color matters one way or another.

It has a lot to do with everything and anyone that wants to discredit that fact is living in the land of Oz. Again, had the person been White, nothing would have happened. Case in point: a few months ago in San Francisco when Kate Steinle was brutally murdered by an illegal alien, where was Al Sharpton, where was the media, why wasn't the guy deported, why would the Democrats STILL after all that support sanctuary cities?

I personally was shocked when I saw the video, and I didn't know the student was black the first time I saw it. I also don't see anything that says the officer did this because she was black. So there doesn't really appear to be anything to justify pulling the race card on either side.

I wish it were not like that, but the sad thing is, it's here.

It's his own fault. If he hadn't used excessive force when it wasn't justified, he'd still have his job.

No, she should have put her phone away and oh, what the hell was she thinking of using the phone in the class in the first place? A complete and total disrespect towards the teacher, the school and her fellow students. Had she followed the teachers instructions, the officer still would have had his job. Now the guy is out of the job and the student will get money (don't know why and what for) The problem is, the country has gotten out of control with its PC indoctrinations.

That's no justification for excessive force. The converse side of it is that when the police use excessive force without justification, it weakens respect for them. That creates defiance.

My God, man! The police didn't beat her, tase her, shoot her or even gassed her, he just flipped her over to have her loosen her grip, give the guy a month or two suspension without pay, but to fire??? Complete overkill!

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Like Raven Simone said, she should've gotten off her phone. She started it, she escalated the situation once the teacher told her to leave and she wouldn't. Her fault.

Your stance is akin to this: A jaywalker crosses a red light illegally. A police officer tells him to stop. The man says 'no'. So the police officer shoots him in the head killing him illegally. And you say that it's the man's fault for not stopping.

Whether or not the girl was in the wrong for what she did, the officer used excessive force in dealing with her. That may make both him and her wrong, or only him wrong, but either way, he is in the wrong.

Again, had the person been White, nothing would have happened.

You have no way of knowing this one way or the other.

Now the guy is out of the job

Yep - because he used excessive force. His own fault. What you are saying reeks of entitlement - I thought you hated entitlement Bass. Or is it that you only hate it when you can affix the term upon the left?

The police didn't beat her, tase her, shoot her or even gassed her, he just flipped her over

He flipped her backwards in a chair - she could have knocked her head and ended up dead. Then he threw her across the floor.

Whether you like it or not, it's excessive.

Side note - good job on putting up a post that is debatable, rather than another one of your 'I know you are but what am I?' posts.

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Black Sabbath: All of it.

I guess it's understandable if you only imbibe news source prefiltered for your world view, like comments on "OMG! Look what the cop did!" youtube videos. The national news outlets carrying the story related the same facts Alphaape did.

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Your stance is akin to this: A jaywalker crosses a red light illegally. A police officer tells him to stop. The man says 'no'. So the police officer shoots him in the head killing him illegally. And you say that it's the man's fault for not stopping.

No. What I am saying that this whole entire incident started with the girl NOT following the teachers instruction to put away her phone and also she was in a physical altercation with another classmate and was told to leave the class. She would not.

Whether or not the girl was in the wrong for what she did, the officer used excessive force in dealing with her. That may make both him and her wrong, or only him wrong, but either way, he is in the wrong.

Ok, let's take that argument that the officer used a bit more force than necessary, so why did he do that in the first place. My problem with the argument was HOW did this problem escalate and what was the catalyst.

You have no way of knowing this one way or the other.

That is not true, over the past few years of cases involving race from George Zimmerman, Darren Wilson and other situations where it was overkill to convict and prosecute the person not Black and I am not a person that cares about race, but the media went after these people relentlessly while and taking a one-sided view of what transpired.

Yep - because he used excessive force. His own fault. What you are saying reeks of entitlement - I thought you hated entitlement Bass. Or is it that you only hate it when you can affix the term upon the left?

No, so this is what gets me, the girl was bludgeoned, she was physically ok, she didn't die and NO lasting physical injuries. Give the guy a suspension, OK, but to ruin his life and all for the sake of political correctness? Sorry, but that is just asinine! The should not have to lose his job because some bratty child gets a tantrum and wants to be disobedient! You're just coming down on the cop and giving the girl a pass, don't you think that's totally wrong. It's sending a mixed message.

He flipped her backwards in a chair - she could have knocked her head and ended up dead. Then he threw her across the floor.

Maybe she'll realize she needs to follow orders and for EVERY action there are consequences, the officer is true example of that, so why not the girl?

Whether you like it or not, it's excessive.

Maybe, maybe, but nowadays, more and more kids need a little *ss kicking. When I was growing up, people didn't act like that, you were taught to always respect authority, something that parents don't teach their kids these days.

Side note - good job on putting up a post that is debatable, rather than another one of your 'I know you are but what am I?' posts.

Thanks. It all goes back to you treat me right and I'll treat you right and trying not to be condescending, well, not too much. Look, I love to debate anyone, but I just don't like when people and especially for some reason when it gets political that liberals want to slam conservatives on anything and everything and never want to realize or look at any of the skeletons in their own closets and that angers me, but if they can recognize the faults of their party and acknowledge they aren't the perfect or chosen individuals and can sit down and talk rationally and honestly, I will as well and I don't what I am saying is unfair or unreasonable.

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let's take that argument that the officer used a bit more force than necessary

It's not an argument - he did.

why did he do that in the first place. My problem with the argument was HOW did this problem escalate and what was the catalyst.

What does it matter? The issue in question is his excessive force. If he had done things without using excessive force, none of us would be talking about the incident whatsoever.

You have no way of knowing this one way or the other.

That is not true

Really? You are able to see alternate realities? Impressive. I have so many questions.

to ruin his life and all for the sake of political correctness?

It has nothing to do with political correctness - the guy used excessive force on an unarmed girl in a school, who wasn't being physical. He ruined his own life, and he is obviously not suited to be a police officer.

You're just coming down on the cop and giving the girl a pass

I haven't given the girl a pass at all. But her actions are irrelevant to this, as the officers actions were not justified even if she was being belligerent.

Maybe she'll realize she needs to follow orders and for EVERY action there are consequences

So you preach blind obedience to authority? Tell us your thoughts on the civil rights movements of the last century.

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t's not an argument - he did

Ok, let's agree to disagree, because You think he did, I don't think so.

What does it matter? The issue in question is his excessive force. If he had done things without using excessive force, none of us would be talking about the incident whatsoever.

See! You keep talking about the cop and you are letting the girl off the hook as if SHE is somehow the victim and was brutally and mentally destroyed and that was not the case. Again, had the girl turned off her phone and left as instructed by the teacher, this incident would have never happened.

Really? You are able to see alternate realities? Impressive. I have so many questions.

And yet, you are doing the same thing, both of us weren't there.

It has nothing to do with political correctness - the guy used excessive force on an unarmed girl in a school, who wasn't being physical.

But she was being rude, obnoxious and defiant, so let's just ignore that underlining fact.

He ruined his own life, and he is obviously not suited to be a police officer.

And she should have been expelled from school.

I haven't given the girl a pass at all. But her actions are irrelevant to this,

Of course they are relevant, she is responsible for ultimately ruining this guys life, again, if she would have done as instructed, the officer wouldn't have needed to intervene, but the powers that be, namely the MSM and this out of control PC movement is just getting out of hand and people have had enough of it!

as the officers actions were not justified even if she was being belligerent.

Again, let's just agree to disagree on that.

So you preach blind obedience to authority?

I would never have been in that situation, because I have always followed orders and did what my teachers asked me and if something happened and it was my fault, my parents would have torn my butt up and the same goes for my kids, if they did what that girl did and I found out about it, they'd better stay over at their grandparents or wherever, because coming home would be the last thing they would really want.

Tell us your thoughts on the civil rights movements of the last century.

I know a lot more then you will ever know.

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