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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.U.S., UK pledge almost $1.5 bil in additional aid for Ukraine during visit to Kyiv
By MATTHEW LEE and ILLIA NOVIKOV KYIV, Ukraine©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump tells us that millions have died in Ukraine. If so, Putin's War is the most deadly conflict in the last 70 years.
Underworld
When asked if Trump wants Ukraine to win, he wouldn’t answer. This guy should not be allowed even close to the White House.
Banthu
Could the experts who assured us 2 years ago that the Russian army was on the brink of collapse and was about to run out of men and missiles explain this.
How did the Russian army suddenly become better equipped than Zelensky's despite the constant flow of super high tech game changers that NATO has been sending.
If the Russians are only using non-stop human waves of guys with shovels stepping over their dead comrades to overtake positions, how come Russia still has a manpower advantage.
Is it possible that the western media and their "experts" lied when they provided analysis about what was actually happening.
They lied then and they're lying now.
JJE
War will be ended on Moscow's terms. Doesn't matter who lives in DC.
JJE
Take a good look at photo 3. The "Crimea Platform" as it says.
The chances of any of them having a beach party in the aforementioned locale are about nought.
Be advised the 810th Marines from Sevastopol are rolling up certain positions as you read this.
Invite them to the platform.
JJE
So, these two interlopers got the train there.
stormcrow
Pay now or pay much, much more later.
Yrral
Stormcrow,the US had enough to this corrupt regime,that they are more concerned about stealing than winning
JJE
Those 10 ships never dock in British or vassal ports. Foolishness. Freedom of Navigation on the high seas shall be observed.
JJE
Truth is Kyiv has been making some unholy alliances with certain groups in the Global South, unhindered by the sponsors. It has not gone unnoticed down there.
Troubling stuff for global audiences. Will be remembered.
itsonlyrocknroll
So when is enough, enough, Ukraine is engaged in a war seemly without end.
Where the imitative to demand a solution to this mayhem must be found?
Just committing to the conveyer belt of military/financial support, the endless Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy selfies for posturing global political leadership, without a clear diplomatic vision of how this devastating war can result in withdrawal of Russian forces is a shameful betrayal of Ukraine its people.
It Putin was to be deposed who or what horror show would take his place?
Strangerland
That is correct. When a foreign invader invades, you fight. Unless you're weak, then you give up.
If Russia doesn't like it, they can go home. But they'd better leave Crimea unless they've decided they don't want Kursk anymore.
falseflagsteve
Itsonlyrockandroll
Exactly, the U.K. can carrying on funding Zelensky even though he cannot win and he’s becoming a dictator. Meanwhile taking away money for vulnerable elderly at home who can’t afford their heating bills in the winter.
Strangerland
So if it was your country would you give up to the invaders!
falseflagsteve
Strangerland
Irrelevant, I’m just stating facts. Peace even with land loss can be better than perpetual war anyway.
itsonlyrocknroll
Strangerland, Putin must fully withdraw from Ukraine.
Putin's illegal brutal invasion must never prevail.
The EU is very adapt skilled in the art of constructing political face savers, fudging.
I suggest this could happen in the phased climb down of punitive sanctions, for Russian withdrawal, the unlocking of access to payment systems, a treaty to resume energy contracts.
Strangerland
This is correct. And includes Crimea.
Strangerland
I'm asking you to support your statement, I'm sure you're a fine and upstanding fella.
Meanwhile you're telling others to be weak though. Would you give up your homeland? Or are you just telling them to do something you wouldn't?
JJE
Russia has owned Crimea since 1783. Even Musk said this fact.
Strangerland
And Ukraine has owned Kursk since a month ago.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I would say your country has to surrender land first, but that would most likely be my own country.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I agree: the UK without Northern Ireland really clears up the problems with Brexit.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Not from 1991-Present.
JJE
But not the crucial NPP there.
Be honest - no one has ever head of Sudzha before this debacle.
itsonlyrocknroll
TaiwanIsNotChina,
Crimea, could be key, a form of joint administration, as the Black Sea Fleet has its official primary headquarters and facilities at the Sevastopol Naval Base, Crimea.
However President Putin forces would have to withdraw all forces from Ukraine.
*JJE
Sevastopol can never withdraw from Crimea. Hero City many times over.
Look at the combatants of the Crimean War.
Read a book.
JJE
Even Winston Churchill took time out from the historic Yalta Conference, 1945, held in Crimea of the Russia SSR, to visit the battlefields of Balaclava and pay homage.
Shame people have lost their sense of proportion. He visited quite a few monuments.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Makes sense: it was part of a great defeat of Russia. It is a pity the allies didn't make sure Russia would never come back from it.
RichardPearce
Just a reminder, the war between Russia and the Azovians started August 6th with the Azovian invasion of Russia and massacre of Russian civilians.
Or, if you're not cutting out context to suit a political agenda, the American backed overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Really? Just pretending the Russian invasions didn't happen?
An interesting phone call doesn't make something "American backed". If we were there, there would be no missing us.
RichardPearce
Now, what exactly was the motive of the people who convinced Obama to back the coup?
Not democracy (that government was doing exactly what it had campaigned on, trying to get a deal that allowed them to link into the EU economy without cutting themselves off from their linkages with Russia and the 'global south'). But possibly democrUSy (government by those approved of by Washington who'd government in the interests of America's oligarchs.
Not the independence of Ukraine (the extremists needed to successfully overthrow the government playing a big role in the post coup regime basically guaranteed the war between Ukrainians that followed, meaning that, post coup, they'd need to run up huge debts while cutting themselves off from the significant revenues of the agricultural and industrial heartland of precoup Ukraine)
So, if the claimed 'good intentions' are bogus, what's left?
TaiwanIsNotChina
The Donbas doesn't have hundreds of thousands of troops, millions of shells, aircraft, and glide bombs but nice try. Ukraine didn't kill 100,000 terrorists as a puppet.