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The media referring to him as Russian and not Ukrainian means the media is recognizing Russian jurisdiction over Donetsk.

lol, no

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This is the guy who caught the karma, btw:

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1575931295854919680

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Terrorism.

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UChosePoorly

Today 06:55 am JST

The media referring to him as Russian and not Ukrainian means the media is recognizing Russian jurisdiction over Donetsk.

> lol, no

Be honest if it was the other was around you would be saying it was a sign Russia news sees Donetsk as Ukrainian.

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AS - I don't really put a whole lot of stock into things like this. Not really the pedantic type and don't care too much about what media says. I don't have cable and I don't go to the MSM as my prime sources of info. Just like you. I occasionally post what the talking heads on Russian TV say, but only because I think most people outside of Russia see what they are saying.

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but only because I don't think most people outside of Russia see what they are saying.

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A bomb in a public cafe is terrorism.

By your words then, Russia sure is committing a lot of terrorism in Ukraine then.

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Now this was 100% by Ukrainian SBU and no way internally by Russians.

He was a mid size blogger at best, the majority of his followers are from outside Russia.

This was why he was targeted by Ukraine.

The western governments have already silence most free press on the war so people turn to bloggers even YouTube is now mostly censored in the west.

If this was international by Russians they would have gone for more popular bloggers and vloggers in Russia like Wargonzo with more than twice the follower with 1.2 million on twitter and more than that on telegraph.

There are other with 2, 3, 4 even 5 million followers domestically in Russia if this was by Russians they would have been the real targets.

Vladlen Tatarsky was born in Donestz his audience was Ukrainian and Russian from or in Ukraine and occupied territories not actual Russia so far more important to the Ukrainians to get ride of him.

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I find it interesting that Ukrainian bloggers/YouTubers are operating in Japan and other non European countries outside Ukraine.

Why because they violate the anti-nazi laws in places like Poland, Germany, even in ultra pro Ukraine Canada their content violates the laws.

Will we be seeing retaliations on these ultra Nationalist Ukrainian bloggers in Japan and other places they are permitted to operate?

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Will we be seeing retaliations on these ultra Nationalist Ukrainian bloggers in Japan and other places they are permitted to operate?

Which 'ultra Nationalist Ukrainian bloggers' are you referring to, AS? Who do you imagine will be doing the retaliating?

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Is it terrorism? Yes.

But . . .

Terrorism as being the deliberate bombing of schools, hospitals and apartment buildings in Ukraine leading to thousands of civilian deaths? Yes.

If the number of deaths of innocent non-combatants is any indicator, the Russians are much better at terrorism than the Ukrainians.

Who started the terrorism? Russia, of course!

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The culprit has been arrested. A 40 year-old women who had been living in St Petersburg for almost a year but is a native of Ivano-Frankovsk, you know, the place where a large majority of the population has a positive view of the UPA.

Anyway, she's going to share all the info she has on everyone and Galicia is going to get pummeled again. All for one blogger from Donetsk. Was it worth it?

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It's a terrorist act yes. The rest of your post is just your weird fantasy.

> Now this was 100% by Ukrainian SBU and no way internally by Russians.

He was a mid size blogger at best, the majority of his followers are from outside Russia.

This was why he was targeted by Ukraine.

The western governments have already silence most free press on the war so people turn to bloggers even YouTube is now mostly censored in the west.

If this was international by Russians they would have gone for more popular bloggers and vloggers in Russia like Wargonzo with more than twice the follower with 1.2 million on twitter and more than that on telegraph.

There are other with 2, 3, 4 even 5 million followers domestically in Russia if this was by Russians they would have been the real targets.

Vladlen Tatarsky was born in Donestz his audience was Ukrainian and Russian from or in Ukraine and occupied territories not actual Russia so far more important to the Ukrainians to get ride of him.

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On the city administration of Artemovsk (Bakhmut), Wagner hoisted the flag of the Russian Federation. Legally Artemovsk is taken, Prigozhin said.

The first suspect is arrested. It's Dariya Trepova. Her husband is being searched.

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Anyway, she's going to share all the info she has on everyone and Galicia is going to get pummeled again. All for one blogger from Donetsk. Was it worth it?

This kind of rhetoric might be a bit effective if Russia wasn't already "pummeling" Ukraine.

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Is it terrorism? Yes. 

But . . .

Every terrorists mindset.

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Antiquesaving

Now this was 100% by Ukrainian SBU and no way internally by Russians.

How do you know?

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fallaffel

Today 07:54 am JST

It's a terrorist act yes. The rest of your post is just your weird fantasy

Not sure what you mean?

Look up Wargonzo. Far more popular in Russia as are several others, I don't understand Russian so I don't know all of them but this guy was one of the least known in Russia proper.

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After they attacked the bridge (and killed several innocent people, including the Georgian truck driver)

Legitimate as any attack Russia has made in this war. That bridge is serving military purposes.

Other that they, they only attacked cities away from the front to target NATO personnel or weapons.

Isn't that convenient that a NATO person was standing next to each of the targets Russia illegally attacked.

Those outside of Russia are going to have look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives (NATO will help them change identities but Russian special services will seek out their new identities) while those inside Russia will do the hardest of hard time until death.

I don't think you should be proud of Russia being a lawless state that poisons people abroad, throws them out of windows, and I guess when they are feeling a little bit civilized, disappear them into the gulag system.

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Doesn't matter to me who did it. Who's next is what interests me more.

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Who's next is what interests me more.

Strelkov wouldn't be the worst guess.

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The western governments have already silenced most free press on the war so people turn to bloggers even YouTube is now mostly censored in the west.

Who would they be?

This was why he was targeted by Ukraine.

You know that because?

Why because they violate the anti-nazi laws in places like Poland, Germany, even in ultra pro Ukraine Canada their content violates the laws.

Canada does not have anti-Nazis laws.

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Bombing a public cafe is an act of murder and nothing else. Many more could have been killed.

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Why because they violate the anti-nazi laws in places like Poland, Germany, even in ultra pro Ukraine Canada their content violates the laws.

> Canada does not have anti-Nazis laws.

Canada has anti hate speech and these bloggers/YouTubers long before the war long before 2014 made hate content promoting ethnic cleansing, including anti ethnic Polish, Anti ethnic Russia, anti-Semitic, etc.. they are Ukraine for "pure Ukrainians" .

The fact you do not understand the facts or laws in Canada is perhaps a good reason not to say something before you learn.

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The so-called warlord Vladlen Tatarskyi, whose real name is Maksym Fomin, was originally from Makiivka, Donetsk region. Since 2011, he was in Horlivka prison for bank robbery, but after the Russian invasion in 2014, he escaped and began fighting as part of Russian militants against Ukraine. With the start of a full-scale war, the collaborator became a "warlord" and called on Russia to kill as many Ukrainians as possible and commit genocide and violence.

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Look up Wargonzo. Far more popular in Russia as are several others, I don't understand Russian so I don't know all of them but this guy was one of the least known in Russia proper.

Wargonzo is literal fake news. Why would you tell anyone to look them up?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen_Pegov

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2020hindsights

Today 08:17 am JST

Antiquesaving

> Now this was 100% by Ukrainian SBU and no way internally by Russians.

> How do you know

Simple logic, why would Anti war anti Putin Russians go after a Donestz blogger more viewed outside Russia?

If this was internal they would have gone after half a dozen far more popular with far larger audience inside Russia bloggers.

Their are far far far bigger pro Putin/war bloggers that target Russians inside Russia proper but instead they kill a blogger barely know inside Russia with most of his followers being ethnic Russian from Ukraine or occupied Ukraine.

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Canada does not have anti-nazi laws.

Which Canadian Law is anti-Nazi?

"Sixteen European countries, along with Canada and Israel, have laws against Holocaust denial, the denial of the systematic genocidal killing of approximately six million Jews in Europe by Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. Many countries also have broader laws that criminalize genocide denial. Among the countries that ban Holocaust denial, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Poland, and Romania also ban other elements associated with Nazism, such as the display of Nazi symbols. "

"The legality of Holocaust denial in Canada has come up in several court cases. In R v Zundel, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Ernst Zündel, a German-born immigrant, who was a prolific Holocaust denier, could not be convicted for “spreading of false news”, as it would be against Canada's Charter guarantee of free expression."

"According to The Canadian Press, the federal government announced a bill in 2022 that will change the Criminal Code to outlaw Holocaust denial and similar forms of antisemitic hate speech."

"As of June 23, 2022, the willful promotion of antisemitism is illegal in Canada. Persons found guilty of wilfully promoting antisemitism by "condoning, denying or downplaying the Holocaust" may receive a prison sentence not more than 2 years or a summary conviction."

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Back on topic please.

Ukraine denies responsibility for the bombing.

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Adios, loser.

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wallace

Today 09:15 am JST

I see you again did duck duck.

You again still get it wrong, try looking up hate speech laws.

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Antiquesaving

2020hindsights

Today 08:17 am JST

Antiquesaving

Now this was 100% by Ukrainian SBU and no way internally by Russians.*

How do you know*

Simple logic, why would Anti war anti Putin Russians go after a Donestz blogger more viewed outside Russia?

So pure speculation. Fine.

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Antiquesaving

   wallace

>    Today 09:15 am JST

> I see you again did duck duck.

> You again still get it wrong, try looking up hate speech laws.

Impolite to another use.

Hate speech laws cover many issues and are not anti-Nazi it itself. You called it anti-Nazi law which it is not.

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A bomb in a public cafe is terrorism.

Missiles into Ukrainian hospitals, apartment buildings and shopping centres are acts of terrorism. Killing children, women and unarmed civilians are acts of terrorism.

By far the biggest terrorists in the world at present are the Russian fascists.

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Wargonzo is literal fake news. Why would you tell anyone to look them up?

> Why do u say so?

Wargonzo is a popular account, led by Semen Pegov. Where u took the "fake news"? I read it very often. Not operative news but a lot of analitics and narratives. Operative news it's Сводки ополчения Новороссии. For u it isn't of use, after all u will not read it, u read only manuals.

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Ukraine taking a page out of the NATO playbook and targeting journalists.

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Just deserts for a toxic loudmouth thug whose blustering braggadocio brought down this karmic judgment on his head. Russians like him forget how Eisenstein's "Alexander Nevsky" ended with the warning: "Those who come to our land with the sword will perish by the sword". It seems many Russians have yet to learn from their own advice to wannabe invaders.

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“We allow both positive and negative opinions about any subject.”

Hilarious. No you do NOT.

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Civilian targets in Russia should not be attacked just as civilian targets in Ukraine should not be attacked.

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Mr Kipling

Ukraine taking a page out of the NATO playbook

Why do you blame Ukraine?

and targeting journalists.

He was a milblogger, not a journalist

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Ukraine taking a page out of the NATO playbook and targeting journalists.

I believe some proofs are in order, up and down. Russia's targeting is clear as there is one in prison right now.

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Classic Russian false flag...just like Putin blowing up the apartments in 1999 and blaming it on the Chechens...

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-1999-apartment-bombings-ukraine-175001959.html

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On the city administration of Artemovsk (Bakhmut), Wagner hoisted the flag of the Russian Federation. Legally Artemovsk is taken, Prigozhin said.

They raised the Wagner flag first because mercenaries will always have questionable loyalty.

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All those people who have been appalled by Russian stray missiles killing civilians will be cheering this murder ... of a civilian. I know I'll be howled down for saying this, but this is NOT the way to fight a war, Ukraine. And neither is arresting the religious leader Metropolitan Pavel. Neither is running an online hit-list called 'Myrotvorets', which has the names of 4000 journalists on it, including Keir Simmons of NBC, along with Henry Kissinger, Roger Waters, Berlusconi, German ex-president Schroeder, etc. Neither is closing down all opposition parties and confiscating their funds.

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Lord Dartmouth

All those people who have been appalled by Russian stray missiles killing civilians will be cheering this murder ... of a civilian. I know I'll be howled down for saying this, but this is NOT the way to fight a war, Ukraine.

Why do you assume that Ukraine did this?

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why would someone assume Ukraine didnt do this?

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"“We’ll conquer everyone, we’ll kill everyone, we’ll loot whoever we need to, and everything will be just as we like it,” - Tatarsky

Yeah, this vicious loser won't be missed.

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why would someone assume Ukraine didnt do this?

What makes you think they would? What motive?

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Blacklabel

why would someone assume Ukraine didnt do this?

There could be a number of motivations to do this, so until evidence comes out, better not to jump to conclusions. For example, it could be an antiwar protest.

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What makes you think they would? What motive?

what motive would Russia have to blow up a cafe in their own city, injuring 30 Russians?

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Lord Dartmouth

All those people who have been appalled by Russian stray missiles killing civilians will be cheering this murder ... of a civilian. I know I'll be howled down for saying this, but this is NOT the way to fight a war, Ukraine.

Why do you assume that Ukraine did this?

And, Lord D, why do you assume they were “stray” missiles?

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All those people who have been appalled by Russian stray missiles killing civilians will be cheering this murder ... of a civilian. I know I'll be howled down for saying this, but this is NOT the way to fight a war, Ukraine. And neither is arresting the religious leader Metropolitan Pavel. Neither is running an online hit-list called 'Myrotvorets', which has the names of 4000 journalists on it, including Keir Simmons of NBC, along with Henry Kissinger, Roger Waters, Berlusconi, German ex-president Schroeder, etc. Neither is closing down all opposition parties and confiscating their funds.

Thats the real Ukraine. Not the sanitized bs served up to suckers by MSM.

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what motive would Russia have to blow up a cafe in their own city, injuring 30 Russians?

It wouldn't be the first time they did.

What motive does Ukraine have for setting off a bomb in Russia?

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Blacklabel

For example, it could be an antiwar protest.

It could likely be an antiwar protest. A lot of Russians are very much against the war.

Or maybe an FSB operation?

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What motive does Ukraine have for setting off a bomb in Russia?

killing Russians?

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killing Russians?

Why would they want to do that?

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Why would they want to do that?

because they are at war with.....Russia?

and its "good" that they attack someone inside Russia to put fear into the public.

Isnt this what most posters here have been advocating, to attack within Russia?

do I really have to walk you through all this?

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

Russia's interfax agency are reporting that it was a woman who resided in St. Petersburg and was a known anti-war protetster.

She appears to be the person who brought the Matryoshka doll statue that had a nice surprise in it.

Although I'm sure the Soviets are working on a theory to include NATO, Nazis, Biden, Santa etc to help our Vatnik posters here.

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because they are at war with.....Russia?

I haven't heard anything about a "war." Why are they at war with Russia?

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The bomber was a young Russian woman.

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It doesn't matter how the bomb is delivered; by hand, by truck, by SU27 or by B52.

Bombing civilian targets is terrorism. But not long ago this would have been reported as "neutralising an insurgent", with the 25 injured "collateral damage".

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Blacklabel

What makes you think they would? What motive?

what motive would Russia have to blow up a cafe in their own city, injuring 30 Russians?

Shore up support for the war with a false flag operation?

They have done it before:

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-1999-apartment-bombings-ukraine-175001959.html

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 haven't heard anything about a "war." Why are they at war with Russia?

their leader, that Zelensky fellow, has claimed such a "war" is going on, in his quest to get 100 billion dollars from the West to fight such a war. so maybe money?

You sure have a lot of questions, maybe you should read something instead of asking to explain everything to you like a small child.

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That’s very overestimated. Can be anything, not only propaganda or war related, but also an unpaid monthly loan rate, a delayed payment for drugs, incidentally present at this cafe during random terrorist or partisan attack, and whatever else. That he hadn’t an entourage of bodyguards or a team that checks people and things like that statue coming nearby to him, shows 100% clearly the insignificance, doesn’t it?

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their leader, that Zelensky fellow, has claimed such a "war" is going on, in his quest to get 100 billion dollars from the West to fight such a war. so maybe money?

Ridiculous! They aren't receiving actual money. They're getting weapons to defend themselves. What an absurd thing to say.

Do you think bombing a cafe in St. Petersburg is worse than what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

Really weird how some people here will quickly criticize Ukraine for this, but have nothing to say about Russia doing this literally every day for more than a year now.

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what? you really do have no idea what is going on, do you?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64656301

"How much money has the US given to Ukraine?"

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come on, man. seriously?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

CLAIM: The U.S. is not providing cash to Ukraine; it only supports the country through donated military equipment.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the U.S. is indeed providing weapons and equipment to Ukraine, it has also provided billions in financial assistance to the country following Russia’s invasion.

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in his quest to get 100 billion dollars from the West

It was 190 billion a few months ago according to you. Did Zelensky give some back?

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No I just decreased it to a more mutually agreed upon amount so that you couldn’t just whine about the amount being wrong.

you didnt seem to accept Zelensky wasn’t lying when he posted thank you for 190 billion on his own official site.

ukraine is getting cash money too, right?

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AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the U.S. is indeed providing weapons and equipment to Ukraine, it has also provided billions in financial assistance to the country following Russia’s invasion.

Right. And the price tag just to fix the country is in the hundreds of billions. The notion that Ukraine chose to get invaded, to have large swaths of the country completely destroyed, and lose 10,000s of thousands of citizens for a few billion dollars is absurd. It is downright comical to make such a claim.

I just want to know, are you equally upset by what Russia is doing in Ukraine as you are about the bombing in St. Petersburg?

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No I just decreased it to a more mutually agreed upon amount so that you couldn’t just whine about the amount being wrong.

Haha! So you still believe that its 190 billion but backtracked to stop me whining?

We are in Stolen Election territory again here.

ukraine is getting cash money too, right?

Of course. But not 190 billion, nor even 100 billion. Thanks for the link that proves that.

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26 billion isnt an insignificant amount of money- if its only split between Zelensky and a few helpful oligarchs. with the traditional 10% cut for the Big Guy, of course.

It's estimated that it'll cost $500billion just to put the country back together. $26 billion is absolutely insignificant in that regard.

What you're alleging is the functional equivalent of burning your own house down so they insurance company will pay for the paint job. It's absurd.

Btw, do you think the bombing in Russia is any worse than what I'd happening in Ukraine?

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Eastman

Kiev regime-terrorist regime.

fascist regime.

I expect response from countries supporting all of this.

to cut funding at least.

money will stop,regime will end same moment.

Why do you assume that Ukraine did this?

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Eastman

Why do you assume that Ukraine did this?

///

Dear did you vere heard about trolling?

And it does not matter if we are talking about radioactive "harmless" NATO shells or this terrorist attack.Your figure out by yourself.

So, you're just making an assumption.

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It was not immediately known who was behind the killing. The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said on Sunday he would "not blame the Kyiv regime" for it.

The bomber was a young Russian woman.

An eye-witness report says the 'suspect' claimed she was asked to leave the statue at the door by security, then she talked and laughed with Tatarsky before running to the door, picking the statue up and giving it to him. He placed it on a table and shortly after it exploded.

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/02/1167675096/explosion-russia-pro-war-military-blogger-ukraine

But there is video supposedly taken in the cafe, of the statue being given to Tatarsky by a man, said to be the MC. Now this video is on reddit, so obviously not your most reliable news source.... but it does perhaps add depth to the discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/129rlqz/russian_military_propagandist_vladlen_tatarsky/

Was the woman the one who put the bomb inside the statue ? If so, why wasn't it found when it was checked by security?

What about if it was a genuine gift, and the bomb was inserted by the security people?

So who were they working for?

Word has it that while being an ardent supporter of the smo, Tatarsky often criticised the military for its many failures in Ukraine. The cafe was owned by Prigozhin, also critical of Putin's military policies.

My instinct tells me this stinks to high heaven of false flags. The russian FSS?

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