Bombs, mosque attack kill 17 in Baghdad

Yep! All those wounded and killed young women and men used to oust Hussan and stabilize the country were sacrificed for what?

Sad. They won't want to call it democracy, but they'll work it out someday.

Here's praying they'll find a working arrangement.

Yep! All those wounded and killed young women and men ..... They won't want to call it democracy, but they'll work it out someday.

And is democracy worth it ?

And when it will be NO democracy in Iraq ?

Quote Olegek: "And is democracy worth it ?"

I've no idea. Is peace worth it? Is people living in harmony or at least mutual understanding and cooperation worth it?

All I said was that many people in Iraq do not want to call what they have "democracy", and many probably object to working towards such an idea, preferring to aim for some shining illusion in the sky. Eventually though, they will have to work out a system of cohabitation, and they can call it whatever they like. Mutual genocide does not seem to me to be a permanent solution, well, not for the living, anyway.

nandakandamanda I've no idea. Is peace worth it? Is people living in harmony or at least mutual understanding and cooperation worth it?

So it was a war for peace ? not for democracy ? To have a peace in Iraq was very easy - not to invade there.... and not to destroy Iraqui state...

All I said was that many people in Iraq do not want to call what they have "democracy", *

Yes it can't be called democracy - only "democracy"

. Eventually though, they will have to work out a system of cohabitation, and they can call it whatever they like. Mutual genocide does not seem to me to be a permanent solution,

They have such system by Saddam

And now - Saddam is dead and Iraq is dead .....

And WHO is guilty ?

Sorry Olegek, that horse is dead, and the "peace" in Iraq with Hussein only included a select minority. Tell it to the Kurds.

More Muslim on Muslim violence. All Bush's fault, lol.

Why is it that every day we hear about how members of the "religion of peace" are out killing others in the name of religion? There isn't another religion in the world that carries on like this any more. It's sick.

HonestDictator Sorry Olegek, that horse is dead

And Iraq is dead also.... sad but truth ....

and the "peace" in Iraq with Hussein

But today ALL goes well - Iraqis rich free and happy !!!! And they living in peace and security - thanks to US !!

every nation will envy such fate...

There isn't another religion in the world that carries on like this any more. It's sick.

What, the predominantly Hindu Tamil Tigers don't count? Or the Christian Lord's Resistance Army? I think we can conclude that many do carry on like this nowadays, not just Islam.

In any case, this decades-old religious/ethnic strife won't be going away any time soon. The invasion of Iraq was mishandled disastrously, as was the reconstruction, and probably deliberately so by the US. You can't just invade and force a place to be a democracy; the shift towards peaceful cohabitation and democracy will probably take decades.

How to integrate the Sunni and Shi'ite communities is similarly going to take forever. Maybe a power-sharing structure like that in Lebanon would work - with an agreement that the President should be Sunni and the Prime Minister Shi'ite, and possibly rotating so that in the next term, the President will be Shi'ite and the Prime Minister Sunni.

Shi'ite triumphalism has been a big problem in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein; some more public gestures of conciliation wouldn't go amiss.