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The globalist establishment is throwing everything they have at Johnson, but I think he’ll survive and give the UK its BREXIT from tyranny.

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This conversation is now descending into farce

The farcical thing was Johnson unable to defend his dishonesty. This is a common theme with him. He was all over the place trying to defend the side of the bus NHS claim too and I thought Ferrari should have hit him harder on this.

Smug, arrogant, untrustworthy and incompetent.

Unfit to lead.

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Classical English tabloid culture.

The American investigative journalist Gary Webb, to whom the movie "Kill the Messenger" is dedicated to, said in an interview in the early 90s that American journalists used to make fun of England for their tabloid culture and focusing on sex scandals with politicians instead of doing a real investigative work, but now we have fallen to their level. He said that, he believes the decline of journalism in America is due to the influx of English tabloid reporters into America. In the 80s, Rupert Murdoch bought many news channels in America, and then brought up English tabloid reporters to practice their profession in America. They spread their tabloid culture to America, and over the years, the American press deteriorated.

I completely agree with him, i would also say investigative journalism is not the only thing that was ruined by the influx of English migrants into America.

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Bozo Johnson and Donny Trump share common traits. They are both serial liars and both likes to rant.

The Bozo tax plan takes from the poor to give to the rich. Sounds familiar?

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He doesn't have to talk about his private life. We all have arguments and rows. I heard that Ferrari interview and Ferrari's line of questioning was pathetic and boorish. No wonder Boris has been avoiding the media. He will be a great PM and will get the UK out of the accursed EU finally.

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Johnson is looking to backdoor into the job.By now,even British people you'd think,wouldn't want a Trump lite moron in office.But as Brexit showed,what people say to your face and behind your back are two different things. Which is typical British behavior anyway.

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The Bozo tax plan takes from the poor to give to the rich. Sounds familiar?

He’s all over the place on this too. He’s emphasizing putting the poor first these days.

It sounds to me like his handlers who keep him out of debates to stop him making a tit of himself as much as possible have been in his ear.

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Which is typical British behavior anyway.

Back stabbing is common in many countries including here in Japan.

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I heard that Ferrari interview and Ferrari's line of questioning was pathetic and boorish

Heard from whom? This should be interesting.

Try watching the interview. It was a pretty fair grilling of someone who wants to be PM. Some of the callers were more in his face. If anything, Ferrari was too soft on him over his NHS claim.

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We are getting ready to come out on 31 October. come what may, do or die” - Boris Johnson rather melodramatic proposal in an interview with Talk Radio Political Editor Ross Kempsell........

Boris Johnson: "Brexit is do or die".........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRHfgF0l1Jc

There is a strategic political flaw, a serious deal breaker to “cardboard model bus making” Johnson assertion.

The inescapable fact the conservative government has a working majority of four. Could soon be reduced to three if expenses fiddling Chris Davis (2 charges) fails to retain his Brecon and Radnorshire seat after a recall petition successfully mounted by 10,005 local constituents.

Boris Johnson do or die UK-EU exit strategy, could provoke die hard pro EU members of Johnson's own parliamentary party to back a no confidence motion. Thus triggering a General Election. All within weeks of Johnson taking office.

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Hunt claimed last night night he has waited 30 years to become the prime minister but wouldn't say when he first thought of the idea.

Time for a big political change when the prime minister must be elected by the people in an election. The leader who becomes the Prime Minister is elected by the conservative politicians and then about 100,000 tory party members who then goes on to decide what happens for 67 millions people.

Don't seem very democratic to me.

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The globalist establishment is throwing everything they have at Johnson, but I think he’ll survive and give the UK its BREXIT from tyranny.

A reminder that the term "globalist" is a well-documented anti-Semitic trope.

Do you believe Johnson will pay attention to the people of the 6 counties/NI, who voted to remain? Given his comparison of the border to congestion charges in London, do you think he understands that border communities will be under severe financial pressures? That the GFA might be in jeopardy from both Republican and Loyalist dissidents?

And if the UK can leave the "tyranny" of the EU, can the 6 counties leave the tyranny of the UK?

Thanks in advance.

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I don't believe either Johnson or Hunt will remain in office to have any noticeable effect on the current UK-EU withdrawal Treaty. Listening to Hunt, I wonder if politically Hunt and May weren't separated at birth.

Hunt possesses that same automatonic delusion that the EU commission will negotiate further on a Treaty all 27 member states have ratified.

There is a route to classic sickly sweet EU fudge though.

Council of the European Union could extend UK withdrawal beyond Halloween on the premise political and economic circumstances advocate a necessity to do so.

This would present an escape route for all 28 member states. However to politically justify such a proposal will require truly exceptional diplomatic slights of hand, and to date, an unseen gesture of good will.

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Populist voters sure seem to like rich, belligerent a55holes.

Right-wing populist voters sure do. 13 million Bernie voters did not, many Labour voters across the pond don't. The media and neoliberal elites malign populism for a reason. At times, that seems a just conclusion, but perhaps if they hadn't had the knives for progressives over the past 30 years, there'd be another outlet for that populist disenchantment. Less depraved and determined to burn everything down.

But such voices wouldn't want to embolden left-wing populism--that might jeopardize their bottom lines.

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You have said again and again that the 6 counties voted to remain, but this is not true.

I have pointed this out many times, but you ignore it. 2 counties voted to remain. 2 were 50:50. 2 voted to leave.

And if the UK can leave the "tyranny" of the EU, can the 6 counties leave the tyranny of the UK?

Yes, they can. In fact any time they like. As you know, they can hold a referendum on membership of the UK if the majority of the people want it.

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I don't believe either Johnson or Hunt will remain in office to have any noticeable effect on the current UK-EU withdrawal Treaty. Listening to Hunt, I wonder if politically Hunt and May weren't separated at birth.

Hunt possesses that same automatonic delusion that the EU commission will negotiate further on a Treaty all 27 member states have ratified.

Aye, it's fascinating (in a clinical way) to see Hunt spin the same message that there is further negotiation ahead. The EU has done it's bit. And there was a deal in place that could have been accepted and the UK would be out of it, by now.

Actually, to be fair, the UK will be extricating itself from the EU for quite some time to come. And the effects will last even longer.

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Following on, with reference to no-deal Brexit and Irish border policy.......There are two distinct policy agendas. protection of EU single market, and the Good Friday Agreement.

Boris Johnson admits he needs EU help to avoid hard Border............

https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/boris-johnson-admits-he-needs-eu-help-to-avoid-hard-border-38250653.html

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You have said again and again that the 6 counties voted to remain, but this is not true.

I'm afraid it is true. 55.8% voted to remain.

The occupied 6 counties, at the end of the day, know very well the machinations and lies of the Brexit campaign. The people know that the politicians in Westminster care not a jot about them. They also know the economic devastation that the Brexit process will wreak upon them.

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@toasted

You do know that N.I and the 6 counties aren't the same, right?

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Steve Bannon admits to "advising" Boris Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=177&v=Z0QgEcn7CZw

Johnson lies through his teeth:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/ask-boris/boris-johnson-grilled-lbc-listeners-watch/

Johnson's spin doctor Lynton Crosby influence-pedaling in the US:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/why-is-johnsons-campaign-managers-firm-bragging-about-links-to-british-politicians/

Johnson and his cronies will sell the UK out in a heartbeat. That's what Brexit is all about.

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You do know that N.I and the 6 counties aren't the same, right?

I think you're a bit confused. Easy mistake to make, it's a regular quagmire for outsiders. You mean Ulster, which is 9 counties. 3 of which are part of the 26 county Republic of Ireland. So when Ulster supposedly says "NO", that's incorrect. I presume that's the gist of your disagreement?

The political entity which is NI, was created by Partition around 100 years ago. NI is politically part of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

But we both know that's going to change. Certainly, the idiocies of Boris Johnson will hasten that change but hopefully not by force.

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So when Ulster supposedly says "NO", that's incorrect. I presume that's the gist of your disagreement?

Erm, no.

If you want to say N.I. voted to remain, then you would be correct. However, you keep saying the 6 counties.

As you have demonstrated, the 6 counties are only 6 of 9, which make up Ulster. As the 6 themselves are not a unified political entity, you can't say that the 6 (treating them as one) voted this way or that way. You have to treat them all as individual counties or as the complete 9. On the other hand, Northern Ireland is a single political identity.

As a you are Irish nationalist, I wouldn't have thought you would recognize any other way. Rather, I would have assumed you used the 'cuig' definition.

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The occupied 6 counties

Who is occupying these "6 counties"? The majority of people in Northern Ireland wish to remain part of the UK. You keep moaning about the UK government ignoring the wishes of the Northern Irish people when it comes to the Brexit vote, but you treat the same people's desire to remain part of the UK with contempt.

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He makes buses out of wine boxes as a hobby. An interview tripper than Yellow Submarine and Head combined.

Johnson is parodying Rowley Berkeley QC.

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Erratic clown with a posh accent. Not quite as embarrassing as Trump but give it time...

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He is the Donald Trump of U.K.! Another Psychopath!

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I've really stayed out of the Brexit conversation. I just assumed it was a bunch of hotheads who voted in protest and ended up screwing everyone, including themselves. But that's just my assumption.

I also assumed this Johnson guy was a shyster like Trump and Netanyahu who would be better suited in prison than government.

But, I could be wrong. I really avoid these articles.

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I also assumed this Johnson guy was a shyster like Trump and Netanyahu who would be better suited in prison than government.

That would be about correct. If not in prison at least not in government.

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It really annoys me to see interviewers focusing on personal lives rather than the actually important matters. People's private lives are exactly that: private. This is a race to see who will succeed as Tory leader, so maybe try focusing on the policies and promises that these two are making, rather than on whatever "scandal" the newspapers like to blow out of proportion (namely the Daily Mirror, which is staunchly pro-EU and has savagely pounced on every single opportunity to attack anti-EU politicians). I don't blame Boris Johnson for staying away from TV debates and the like. These have a horrible tendency to become a urinating contest. Do people seriously believe that it's more mature to whip it out and join in with hosing the place down with testosterone, than to stay out of such childish contests?

Boris might not be the best choice for PM, but I trust him more than Jeremy Hunt. A bit of a goofball, but his heart is in the right place, more often than Hunt's is at any rate. It's basically a choice for the lesser of two evils, and I'd back Boris over Hunt any day. Not sure who I'd want as PM over all, there's so many bad choices, but in the interim, Boris will be fine enough.

He is the Donald Trump of U.K.! Another Psychopath!

Actually Boris is quite sane. He's not racist enough to be like Trump, he's not a rapist, or a sexist, and nor would he ever condone tearing children away from their parents and forcing them to live in cages without soap, toothpaste or bedding. Jeremy Corbyn on the other hand...

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When you become a Prime Minister or President you also give up having a private life. Everything becomes open and available for public office.

Like they say "if you can't stand the heat of the kitchen you shouldn't be in it!"

Time for a change when the people elect their prime minister not a hundred thousand people.

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@cla68,  "but I think he’ll survive and give the UK its BREXIT from tyranny." I don't think that will happen, he could not run a tap let alloan the country.

Boris "buffoon" Johnson was on a TV program the other day and he was quizzed over various things in his life, 1: lying to his boss ( I think) about his affair with mrs X and he denied it, but it was found out to be true and they sacked him 2: there was comments made by him about sending some lads round to a friends house to "ruff" them up, which he denied, 3: there was something else I just can't remember just now, but any way the interviewer asked him these questions and all he could do was waffle on for 5 minutes trying to digress from the questions, and it looks like he's at it again, why do we the British public like stupid buffoons like BJ? the man is a disgrace, this country is one grate big mess at this minute in time, and we need a excellent leader to get us out of this utter mess we call Brexit, which I can't see happening in the foreseeable future, If you need police help, what police? forget it the numbers have been cut so much they can't cope, the NHS is at bursting point, the courts can't cope as the CPS staff have been slashed and its the same with the local councils. and BBJ is going to lead us through this god dam mess, really? I would not trust him to run a tap, and I would not leave him in control over a Childs rail way set.

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Bozo Johnson and Donny Trump share common traits. They are both serial liars and both likes to rant.

Erratic clown with a posh accent. Not quite as embarrassing as Trump but give it time...

He is the Donald Trump of U.K.! Another Psychopath!

Wow, Trump is really getting raked over the coals in the comments on an article having nothing to do with him, lol.

I would not leave him in control over a child's rail way set

Hey, that's a pretty heavy responsibility!

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If Johnson didn't want questions about his personal life,he shouldn't be getting drunk,spilling wine and having a screaming match with his girlfriend that the neighbors could hear and record. And people up on here exclaiming personal blah,blah,blah.He's a public figure and he knows or should have known better.But when you drink...

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Serrano

Don't forget both Bozo and Trump were born in NY so has little kids they probably conspired together to take over the world.

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Crac

Really?  You think that having a row at home is worthy of almost a week now of ongoing questions and prurient speculation? After police report said nothing to see?

Does he have toi explain what it was about and who said what and why voices were raised?

UK media love this type of prying and "sensational" stuff.  Read any tabloid or listed to vast swathes of radio and this is what you get.

I am not a huge fan of BJ but he doesn't seem to be much worse than any of the other rubbish on offer (Corbyn, Farage, whoever runs the LibDems now).  If he gets booted out in short order then so be it, but this media frenzy does seem a little bit overdone.

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Time for a big political change when the prime minister must be elected by the people in an election. The leader who becomes the Prime Minister is elected by the conservative politicians and then about 100,000 tory party members who then goes on to decide what happens for 67 millions people.

I wouldn't be in favour of such a change. It's parliament that decides what happens, not the prime minister. It seems a reasonable approach.

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The only reason the police were called was because the leftie pro EU neighbours are desperately pulling out every underhanded game try to stop Johnson getting the PM's job and getting Britain out of the EU.

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I wouldn't be in favour of such a change. It's parliament that decides what happens, not the prime minister. It seems a reasonable approach.

It's the prime minister who selects the government and sets the policy. Time for a change in the voting system.

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The only reason the police were called was because the leftie pro EU neighbours are desperately pulling out every underhanded game try to stop Johnson getting the PM's job and getting Britain out of the EU.

This is simply untrue. They were concerned about the well being of a screaming woman. It had nothing to do with politics.

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As the 6 themselves are not a unified political entity, you can't say that the 6 (treating them as one) voted this way or that way. You have to treat them all as individual counties or as the complete 9. On the other hand, Northern Ireland is a single political identity

I don't have to but I tend to treat them as part of Ireland, overall. In the same way, Loyalists describe the 6 counties as Ulster, which doesn't sit well with Republicans and Nationalists.

But if we are to consign them to the UK for now, then I refer to them as both NI and the 6 counties.

As I am aware that some here won't be happy with just the one term. Like Derry and Londonderry.

As a you are Irish nationalist, I wouldn't have thought you would recognize any other way. Rather, I would have assumed you used the 'cuig' definition.

Interesting. Previously, you said I wasn't Irish. As ever, and especially on this site, I do not divulge such personal details.

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This is simply untrue. They were concerned about the well being of a screaming woman. It had nothing to do with politics.

It has more to do with selling newspapers.

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It has more to do with selling newspapers.

So why did one of the papers mention their religion/ethnicity?

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You keep moaning about the UK government ignoring the wishes of the Northern Irish people when it comes to the Brexit vote, but you treat the same people's desire to remain part of the UK with contempt.

The people of NI/6 counties have always been treated with contempt by the UK politicians. None of them asked for the horrors of Partition.

Sinn Fein are very open in having an inclusive 32 county Republic after the 6 counties leave the UK, why would you be in favor of allowing the UK to leave the EU but not the 6 counties leave the UK?

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The only reason the police were called was because the leftie pro EU neighbours are desperately pulling out every underhanded game try to stop Johnson getting the PM's job and getting Britain out of the EU.

How does that work, then? If it isn't Bozo, it's Hunt and he's on record as saying Brexit must happen with or without a deal. And that if Parliament stopped a no-deal he would avoid a general election at all costs, because Labour would win and there would be no Brexit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48764832

As for Bozo - if he can't handle a tiff at home with his loved ones without flying off the handle and causing a public nuisance, how can the country expect him to behave with decorum when handling the country's affairs? Is he going to throw wine over EU officials if they don't give him his new deal? Slam doors and scream if Parliament doesn't back his proposals?

Six of one.

Half a dozen of the other.

Either way, the UK is in deep doodoo for the foreseeable future.

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Avoids dodgy questions because he's dodgy

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You keep moaning about the UK government ignoring the wishes of the Northern Irish people when it comes to the Brexit vote, but you treat the same people's desire to remain part of the UK with contempt.

The people of NI/6 counties have always been treated with contempt by the UK politicians. 

Very evasive.

That reminded me of Johnson.

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@Jimizo

Would you deny that both Unionist and Nationalist communities have been overlooked by successive Labour and Tory governments? That it took the Civil Rights movement in the late 60s, early 70s to wake up the rest of the UK to appalling abuses of Catholics in NI/6 counties?

Meanwhile

Under the terms of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, a border poll should be held if a majority would likely vote for reunification. Referendums would be held in both the Republic and Northern Ireland. The responsibility of calling the poll rests with the secretary of state for Northern Ireland, currently Karen Bradley, who admitted last year she didn’t know “people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice-versa.” Brexit supporters have shown particular ignorance when it comes to the “Irish question”, with some suggesting that threatening Ireland with food shortages – a country that suffered famine under British rule – would be a good way to gain leverage. Jacob Rees Mogg advocated people be inspected on the border, as “during the Troubles.” Democratic Unionist Party leader Arlene Foster claimed a hard border never existed. According to recent polls, 86 per cent of people surveyed in the Republic preferred a united Ireland to a hard border and 62 per cent of people in Northern Ireland believe that Brexit makes a united Ireland more likely. Reunification would mean Northern Ireland automatically remains in the EU.

More here

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/02/united-ireland-now-looks-increasing-possibility

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Jimizo

Would you deny that both Unionist and Nationalist communities have been overlooked by successive Labour and Tory governments? That it took the Civil Rights movement in the late 60s, early 70s to wake up the rest of the UK to appalling abuses of Catholics in NI/6 counties?

Not for a second. There were appalling abuses from both sides.

You are still evading the question of the wishes of those who want to stay in the union.

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You are still evading the question of the wishes of those who want to stay in the union.

Under a United Ireland, most of the Unionist traditions will be respected, not just tolerated. Partition stole these counties away from Ireland - nobody asked for it. The Unionist tradition has its dark side, as we've seen from Drumcree and Garvaghy Road each year on the 12th and other instances too numerous to mention.

This is not something that bothers the likes of Johnson. He's old school toff material. But it's something that will be addressed when re-unification happens.

Personally, I feel that the 6 counties should automatically be returned, if there's any justice. But if it means waiting another few years for the majority to vote for a nation once again, I can wait. I'm just worried about dissidents who can't wait. Sadly, there are those who see Sinn Fein as sell outs and will not cease their extremist ways.

And to clarify, wanting a United Ireland does not make one a terrorist supporter.

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I sincerely hope the UK can successfully extricate itself from Brussels by Halloween.

Don't forget both Bozo and Trump were born in NY so has little kids they probably conspired together to take over the world.

Har! Sean Hannity and Anderson Cooper too!

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It really annoys me to see interviewers focusing on personal lives rather than the actually important matters.

It is important. It shows what kind of person he is, his personal ethics. The police was called to a domestic incident at his girlfriends home - she was heard screaming "Get off me" - as soon as that happens it is no longer private. Also, ask him how many children he has got and he won't/can't answer. I think even he doesn't know, the British public and his supporters certainly don't know.

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@toasted

I don't recall saying you weren't Irish. I believe I said you weren't from Northern Ireland.

But as you used the term 'outsiders', I guess you are trying to identify as an Irish Nationalist.

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I don't recall saying you weren't Irish. I believe I said you weren't from Northern Ireland.

But as you used the term 'outsiders', I guess you are trying to identify as an Irish Nationalist.

You are welcome to believe whatever you like. I use the term "outsiders" (perhaps unfairly) to those I reckon who just chime in because "Boris", the "EU" and so on, without knowing anything about the situation. I could make a guess that you are a Unionist or South African, but it's all down to pointless speculation, and where does that get any of us?

(I've been subjected to all manner of guesses about what/where/who I happen to be/live/come from and so on, and it's not always been reasonable dialogue, either. Which is why I don't release too much personal info.)

Anyway, this is moving away from the utter unsuitability of Johnson as PM. He wasn't a good or even average Foreign Secretary, goodness knows why some are touting him to be a suitable leader.

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It really annoys me to see interviewers focusing on personal lives rather than the actually important matters.

If you mean should Ferrari have hit him harder over the £350m NHS claim, I’m with you. He is still dodging this.

How many years has he had to hammer together a half-decent reply to this?

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why would you be in favor of allowing the UK to leave the EU but not the 6 counties leave the UK?

I'm not in favour of the UK leaving the EU. The people of Northern Ireland can decide what they want to do with regards to remaining part of the UK; at the moment they do not wish to leave the UK or the EU.

I also would like an interviewer to ask lying Johnson to name one year in which the UK sent 18.2 billion (350 million a week) to the EU. Treasury figures clearly show this has never happened, yet Johnson still repeats this lie over and over again. I'd like to see the dissembling tosspot pressed on this repeatedly in every interview, but the media won't do it.

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Under a United Ireland, most of the Unionist traditions will be respected, not just tolerated. 

Which traditions won’t and who’ll decide this? Who said said this anyway?

I sincerely hope it wasn’t a politician.

I’m not against a united Ireland but your seemingly total disregard for the will of the people in this discussion is very problematic.

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The people of Northern Ireland can decide what they want to do with regards to remaining part of the UK; at the moment they do not wish to leave the UK or the EU.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. But remember, please, that Partition resulted in an artificial statelet that has benefited nobody in the region.

I also would like an interviewer to ask lying Johnson to name one year in which the UK sent 18.2 billion (350 million a week) to the EU. Treasury figures clearly show this has never happened, yet Johnson still repeats this lie over and over again. I'd like to see the dissembling tosspot pressed on this repeatedly in every interview, but the media won't do it.

I completely agree, I'd very much like to hear him 'fess up to his blatant falsehoods. But he's very adverse to telling the truth. Just see his recent obfuscations on the domestic.

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Which traditions won’t and who’ll decide this? Who said said this anyway?

I'd imagine that the recent sectarian traditions of screaming at children on the way to school will be jettisoned. And discrimination against Catholics and the Irish language will fade into the past.

Martina Anderson of Sinn Fein had this to say, back in 2012

“The United Ireland we seek to create is pluralist, where all the elements of the Irish nation are comfortable, secure and can find the fullest expression of their identity, including those Irish people who wish also to express a British identity”, she said. Real reconciliation also meant dealing with the legacy of conflict and that this would “challenge everyone —Republicans, Unionists and Governments in London and Dublin. But it is essential if we are to move from conflict resolution to a New Republic”, Anderson said.

More here https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/23623

I’m not against a united Ireland but your seemingly total disregard for the will of the people in this discussion is very problematic.

Was the will of the people respected when Partition was forced upon Ireland? Was the centuries of British genocide and cultural cleansing (Cromwell, the Famine, the Penal Laws etc) respectful of the Irish people?

Come on, Jimizo. You're educated enough to see that the will of the people of Ireland has always been ignored.

I abhor violence as a means for change. Which is why I'm willing for a peaceful transfer of power from Westminster to Dublin. But you do understand why the awful violence happened, yes?

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Come on, Jimizo. You're educated enough to see that the will of the people of Ireland has always been ignored.

Regardless of whether Boris becomes PM, or not. I find it disconcerting that you ignore the will of the people of N.I., toasted.

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Which traditions won’t and who’ll decide this? Who said said this anyway?

I'd imagine that the recent sectarian traditions of screaming at children on the way to school will be jettisoned. And discrimination against Catholics and the Irish language will fade into the past.

A lot riding on your imagination. I think the people of this area should be the ones to decide on what they want for the future.

You have a lot of faith in Sinn Fein. I remember when this lot were in bed with killers of innocent people. A little kid was blown to pieces near my hometown by these animals.

I’m sure this new Sinn Fein is now more trustworthy than any other political party. I don’t trust politicians. Do you?

Are you against the people having a vote on this? It’s a really tough question which self-serving politicians shouldn’t be trusted with. If the vote goes with those in favour of a united Ireland, so be it. If not, not.

It seems the most logical way out of this problem.

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A lot riding on your imagination. I think the people of this area should be the ones to decide on what they want for the future.

This area, as you call it, came into existence a hundred years ago. It was forced upon them. And that's fact, not my imagination.

You have a lot of faith in Sinn Fein. I remember when this lot were in bed with killers of innocent people. A little kid was blown to pieces near my hometown by these animals.

Sinn Fein were, and are, a democratically elected party. I remember when people were massacred by Loyalists affiliated with democratically elected parties. Not to mention, collusion with the RUC and British intelligence. How is it that Loyalist violence never gets a look in?

I’m sure this new Sinn Fein is now more trustworthy than any other political party. I don’t trust politicians. Do you?

Of course not. Only a fool has absolute faith in any political party. But Sinn Fein are not the Stickies or the Provos.

Are you against the people having a vote on this? It’s a really tough question which self-serving politicians shouldn’t be trusted with. If the vote goes with those in favour of a united Ireland, so be it. If not, not.

I'm in favor of a vote, yes. But you seem to be evading the issue of Partition and it's effect on Ireland. Do you think it was the will of the people to force it on the country?

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Regardless of whether Boris becomes PM, or not. I find it disconcerting that you ignore the will of the people of N.I., toasted.

I find it disconcerting that you continue to support the imposition of an artificial statelet on the island of Ireland and were quite happy to see it in place for the last century, Tangerine.

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I support peaceful resolution. No matter who ends up in government in the UK, the situation in Northern Ireland can only be resolved by the people of Northern Ireland. The ways which you espouse can only lead to conflict.

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I'm in favor of a vote, yes.

Oh, okay. We’re on the same page. If it goes for remaining in the UK, you’d accept it?

I’m not evading anything. The invasion and later partition of Ireland was a disgrace. I just think the here and now matters more and the future of NI should be decided by the people who live there.

As for the bloodshed, we know that there were atrocities committed by both sides. I’ve got no problem calling out these animals on both sides. I mentioned Sinn Fein only because of your faith in them. I certainly wouldn’t have any faith in those nutters in league with Tories at the moment.

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I support peaceful resolution.

As do I. My record here is quite clear on that matter.

No matter who ends up in government in the UK, the situation in Northern Ireland can only be resolved by the people of Northern Ireland.

This is true. But you do comprehend what Partition did and led to, don't you?

The ways which you espouse can only lead to conflict.

What ways would these be, specifically? Acknowledging that violence is never the answer and agreeing that a majority in favor of re-unification is necessary, despite the 6 counties having been taken from Ireland?

Dear England - You'll visit the pubs, maybe spend a lost weekend in the tourist traps, drink the stout and the liquors, you'll sing along to the music, quote Joyce or Behan etc and even wish a happy paddy's day to all and sundry but ye just can't let go of your empire, can ye ;-)

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What ways would these be, specifically?

Personally, I feel that the 6 counties should automatically be returned, if there's any justice.

These are views which you espouse. This would lead to violence and conflict.

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Oh, okay. We’re on the same page. If it goes for remaining in the UK, you’d accept it?

Of course. I won't be happy, just as I wasn't happy with the apartheid era in SA, or the Berlin Wall. But things change.

I’m not evading anything. The invasion and later partition of Ireland was a disgrace. I just think the here and now matters more and the future of NI should be decided by the people who live there.

For sure. I was always annoyed by the likes of NORAID who hadn't a clue what was going on. But my concerns lie with a peaceful future. Hopefully without the UK but if that isn't the case, I will accept it, whilst continuing to be a non-violent advocate for change. Violence gets you nowhere, I cannot stress that enough.

As for the bloodshed, we know that there were atrocities committed by both sides. I’ve got no problem calling out these animals on both sides. I mentioned Sinn Fein only because of your faith in them. I certainly wouldn’t have any faith in those nutters in league with Tories at the moment.

I wish I could be more open here, but we both know that other entities use personal experience and honesty as a weapon to brow beat and cause grief.

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These are views which you espouse. This would lead to violence and conflict.

I said "personally".

And you left out this

But if it means waiting another few years for the majority to vote for a nation once again, I can wait

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Comes across as covering bases to me. "Personally" makes it your view, not a general opinion held by others.

It is quite simple, let Northern Ireland decide. If the Brits are as bad as you say, the people of N.I. will be demanding a referendum within the next 6 months.

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Comes across as covering bases to me. "Personally" makes it your view, not a general opinion held by others.

Yes. That's why I said "personally".

It is quite simple, let Northern Ireland decide. If the Brits are as bad as you say, the people of N.I. will be demanding a referendum within the next 6 months.

Have you read any history of Ireland? Do you know about Loyalist paramilitaries, sectarianism, collusion, civil rights and why Stormont ground to a halt?

Do you think it was right to force Partition on Ireland?

"Brits", ffs. I've never used that term. Hate it.

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Crac

Really? You think that having a row at home is worthy of almost a week now of ongoing questions and prurient speculation? After police report said nothing to see?

Waka

In no way am I suggesting it's worth a week's attention,but he made it this long with his ducking and diving of the questions, that had he answered properly and seemingly truthfully,would not have had it ongoing in this manner. His weak as laments about not bringing "loved ones and family....is so unfair" is so pathetic,bearing in mind the "unfairness" of his getting some elsewhere whilst still married to his wife. Selective cherry picking of what you deem unfair ain't gonna cut it. Even more so if aiming for the top job.
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It's called a 'private life' for a reason: it's private!

The only thing I care about concerning a politician is his policies. Not his private life, nor even his character. Only his policies. These are the only things that will affect me.

So I don't give a stuff about Boris's little tiff with his over-emotional girlfriend. It matters not a jot. Journalists who focus on this are clearly too stupid to focus on politics.

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So I don't give a stuff about Boris's little tiff with his over-emotional girlfriend. It matters not a jot. Journalists who focus on this are clearly too stupid to focus on politics.

Unfortunately, Bill, the man's trustworthiness is under scrutiny precisely because he's lied so much and even released fake publicity photos taken before the incident to try and smooth over the cracks. He lied about monies going to the EU, he lied about the NHS and this (as well as his not so private life) is why journalists are focusing on him.

Is this charlatan really the right man for the job of PM?

over-emotional girlfriend.

The very fact that you can dismiss Carrie Symonds like that and can't even mention her name speaks volumes.

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All politicians lie-they have to.

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The only thing I care about concerning a politician is his policies. Not his private life, nor even his character. Only his policies.

Well you don't have to worry about those. He hasn't got any. The closest thing is his airy claim that the chance of a no-deal Brexit is a million to one.

That represents how much thought this half-arsed numbskull has given to the problem.

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