Brexit Party wants to team up with Tories; Johnson says no

"A Nigel Farage-and-Boris Johnson coalition would be scary"

It would be formidable, that's for sure. If Boris goes for no deal real Brexit and gets Farage's support, they would be unbeatable.

 Brexit won't win a single seat.

You sure? They won 29 seats in the 9th European Parliament election, making them the biggest single party there...

Johnson knows that a pact with Farage, who will be attracting all sorts of racists, nutters and deplorables ( Trump is a fan ), is far too toxic even for the nasty party.

Can you imagine the kind of headbangers Farage will have in tow if he fields hundreds of candidates?

The only person who doesn't understand that Farage is electoral poison is Trump. Farage lost seven straight elections from 1994 to 2015. He even lost in the supposedly UKIP/Brexit Party stronghold of South Thanet. His Brexit Party has no policies and isn't even a party; it's registered as a business with the "fees" paid by the "members" going straight into Farage's pocket. He's a charlatan.

Farage has a long history of dubious financial shenanigans. Perhaps that's why he appeals to Trump so much.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/12/nigel-farage-eu-salary-docked-claim-misspent-public-funds

Brexit won't win a single seat.

You sure? They won 29 seats in the 9th European Parliament election, making them the biggest single party there...

If you knew anything about UK politics, you’d know that people vote very differently in General Elections ( which have a much larger turnout ) than in the European elections which many treat as a protest vote. Farage himself has failed to win a seat in the UK parliament in a seat very favourable to his message.

The Brexit party will do very well to win one seat but they will take votes off the Tories and Labour.

I don't think an endorsement from Trump is an advantage in British politics.

The Brexit Party will get votes, and may well affect the result in some constituencies. I don't think they will win any seats. This election is first pass the post, not proportional representation that favours small parties. Farage is a media favourite, so they'll get a huge, disproportionate amount of publicity. He does every time.

The interesting thing will be how hard the Brexit Party attacks the Conservatives and Johnson's deal. The only point in voting Brexit Party is for their harder form of Brexit.

The Brexit Party is sure to have a significant effect on voting.

Anyone living in the UK understands why...

Excellent idea for Farage to act as spoiler to deliver seats to Labour. With 2 Brexit Parties vying for the same seat they will divide the vote. This is most excellent for the Labour Party!

Most excellent idea you have there Farage!

Farage lost seven straight elections from 1994 to 2015

I remember the 1994 election news being covered by Brian O'hanra-hanrahan in flawless German.

Farage looks unlikely to ever win a CV seat in Parliament. Unless he gets a seat in Northern Ireland like Enoch Powell eventually did

This General Election is not focused on one issue or policy, namely Brexit.

Certainly Brexit is symptomatic in why UK will be heading for the polls. Its is the failure of parliamentary establishment to respect the democratic will of the people, whether EU-UK referendum result, or simply carrying out party manifesto promises.

I respect Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, an a eloquent and skilled debater,

Outside of Brexit, what does Brexit Party stand for, does the Brexit Party even possess a policy agenda? I have read the Brexit Party want to abolish the House of Lords and change UK's first pass the post Electoral system.

However Brexit Party industrial and economic policies? The NHS, education and schooling, Energy and social welfare?.......???? Its is all a bit of a mystery

This General Election is not focused on one issue or policy, namely Brexit.

Corbyn is certainly hoping he can get people to focus on issues other than Brexit. The Tories have created something reprehensible with their austerity policies and excuse making for foodbank Britain.

Farage seems more interested in the House of Lords. Does he still want to bring back smoking in the ale house?

@Zichi

Take a trip back to the UK and find out for yourself.

You will learn more than sitting down in front of your computer screen...

Take a trip back to the UK and find out for yourself.

So you, not in the UK, made a claim about people in the UK, then when questioned by a British citizen, you tell him to go to the UK...

Bro logic right there.

Take a trip back to the UK and find out for yourself.

I’m a British citizen and take trips back to the UK twice a year on average. I spend most of my time in Liverpool with trips to places like London, Chester and Northumbria.

What will I find or what should I be looking for?

@Strangerland

What claim did I make?

That I know more about the UK by being there?

Well, that might be true.

I have homes in the UK and here as well as business interests.

I live approximately half of my time in the UK and the other half in Asia-partly Korea and more so in Japan.

@Jimizo

I won’t presume to tell you what to look for.

However,

I presume that you speak to people in pubs, supermarkets, taxi drivers ie the average person.

It is a simple matter for them to tell you what Brexit means.

@kurisupisu

Just tell us what ‘average’ British people are saying. I don’t get the coyness or guessing games here.

@Strangerland

What claim did I make?

You claimed that you know what the people of the UK think:

Anyone living in the UK understands why...

And then claimed one needs to be in the UK to know:

Take a trip back to the UK and find out for yourself.

Even though you're not in the UK yourself.

Farage has a long history of dubious financial shenanigans. Perhaps that's why he appeals to Trump so much.

Birds of same feather flocks together I guess.

Farage is surely useful on one aspect, "forex". More often than not he makes a comment, the GBP/USD and other GBP majors drops. Nice tip old chap.

If Boris goes for no deal real Brexit and gets Farage's support, they would be unbeatable.

but there wont be a nodeal Brexit the parliment has already passed legislation to make it illegal.

So a deal Brexit is the only option doesn't matter who wins the election

@ Strangerland

Read again, and understand my previous post.Being an American and not having real life experience of life in the UK -I get it...

@Jimizo

Next time you visit the UK, check out a mosque or a Gurdwara for chronic visa overstayers or meet the Polish immigrants that cannot live in the UK due to sexual harassment or having been smashed in the face by other immigrants to be victims of possible kidnapping.

I get this info from directly talking to people BTW.

According to my social worker friend there are approximately 2 million visa over stayers illegally in the UK-that figure is a couple of years old now.

Maybe, that is why most young workers in the UK have given up on the idea of buying a house!

@zichi

I don’t know what I have seen in the UK but it is a clash of (many) cultures

When did you last talk to immigrants about their life in the UK?

Yes, the real picture of how things are.

Do you have long conversations with immigrant arrivals in the UK?

Well, I assume you return to Liverpool or thereabouts whereas I return to London where 40%+ of the population are foreigners and where whole communities have been rearranged and changed.

And tell me what are the dominant cultural norms you find when returning to the UK in your household?

If you were to take a short trip to Rotherham would would you experience?

Where I go, I see many trying to integrate but I see many that can’t because they do not wish to or cannot because of their own religious and/or cultural which supersede the culture where they live.

Personally, I have benefited from previous political policies in the UK on immigration,I do not have a problem with immigration nor am I a rabid supporter of Brexit but I understand very well those that do so...

Zichi:

My own birth city, Liverpool voted to remain.

So the majority of your birth city wants to remain under the shady rule of the likes of Merkel, Macaron, and Junkers. Very impressive...

If Labour and Jeremy Corbyn to succeed it must be policies not vote rigging......

First class degree in election fraud......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7641065/Undergraduates-tweet-boasting-shell-vote-twice-exposes-lax-voting-system.html

The Daily Mail was once a bastion of white van man, red neck Brexit bombast.

A change of editor and its now a bastion of the Blairite political pompousness. However Jeremy Corbyn needs headliine like this, like a hole in the head.

How would you know that the 40% of the people you see in London are foreigners unless you demanded to see their passports?

I presume he was referring to this UK government data:

The largest non-UK born and non-British national populations were in London in 2017 (which is the region with the highest proportion of non-UK born residents, at 38%, and non-British residents, at 24%) 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/2017#london-has-the-highest-proportion-of-non-uk-born-and-non-british-nationals

Britain has always been a mixture of peoples and cultures but 90% remains white.

Over a third of births in England and Wales are to a parent born outside the UK. The vast majority are "white" but there is no denying that it is a massive cultural shift.

You mentioned earlier than Britain had always been a mix of cultures, but that is actually quite a big exaggeration. There had actually been very little immigration since the Saxons. The immigration of the 1960s was tiny compared to the last twenty years.

I don't mind it, and London is a great melting pot, but I do accept that it has been an unprecedented change to the make-up of the UK population.

Overall, news that the Brexit party is to stand is fantastic news for Remainers and the Liberal Democrats. This will split the Brexit vote and give them a real chance in marginals.

If parliament is hung again, they can force a second referendum.

A no-deal Brexit increases the chances of Northern Ireland and/or Scotland separating from the UK

But some people would like that to happen