Britain refuses entry to far-right Dutch MP

"Of course we acknowledge that right,[Freedom of speech] but we do not agree with the way it is being exercised in this case."

Then they are hypocrites & liars that do not in fact have free speech.

Yeah, but they will let those who actually go as far as threaten the British public, even provide sanctuary for them.

Anti Western/Infidel - ok Anti Muslim - bad Common Sense - bad x 100

“The government opposes extremism in all its forms,” said a Home Office spokesman, who would not be identified, in line with policy. “It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.” What a lie!

Whether we agree with the views expressed in Fitna or not doesn't matter. Geert Wilders has the right to move freely within the European Union and express his views. Free speech is one of our most basic human rights.

Britain is a dictatorship masquerading as a democracy.

democracy is in danger in the west!

Free speech has not been possible in the UK for a number of years.

Contrary to Mr Milliband's lies, Mr Wilders is not himself spreading "hatred and violent messages": his film "Fitna" is merely a collection of statements made by our Muslim friends.

Meanwhile, the pathetic British government is happy to play host to those who would destroy democracy, crush individual liberties and who openly call for death to those who do not believe in their superstitious nonsense.

First of all, if Britain wants to ban the film, that is their right. But banning the MP of a friendly nation for making the film is right out.

Second, Islam is being twisted by Islamic Militants who think they are following Islam and acting on its behalf. Its a fact we in the west had better start understanding asap.

In short, Islam is ok. Islam perverted for the agenda of militants is not ok. I cannot say if this guy is trying to tell us that simple message or if he really is a hater; have not seen the film. It does not matter on the score of his denied entry, only my first paragraph does.

Bombing underground railway stations isn't "extremism" to the Home Ministry. But refusing entry to someone who speaks the truth about the "religion of peace" is?

The Brits are really lost in the fog across the pond.

[“The government opposes extremism in all its forms. It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country,” said a spokesman.] So the ones that are already in your country are ok? Better check your own muslim communities as there are some elements within them that want the west to pay and 'death to america and her allies'. I really have to agree with TexasAggie and skipthesong here.

First of all, if Britain wants to ban the film, that is their right." so you support the call for elementary teachers to not wear burkhas in school?

Second, Islam is being twisted by Islamic Militants who think they are following Islam and acting on its behalf. " Well, how much of it is hijacked? Perhaps people should start splitting from it. I denounce my mother's religion of cutting chickens and doves, why can't they do the same?

Its a fact we in the west had better start understanding asap." why? I don't see mass immigration to those countries and trying to have another religion accepted or even be part of the process. Perhaps people should leave their beliefs.. and that goes for any religion.

In short, Islam is ok." And in the long its not and no religion is.

Islam perverted for the agenda of militants is not ok." But you'd be one of the these so called militants supporters if the UK wanted to deport such a militant.

I cannot say if this guy is trying to tell us that simple message or if he really is a hater" Sometimes hate is a product of actions that have happened to people.

have not seen the film." Neither have I nor will I.

I meant to say In short, Islam is ok." And in the long its not and no religion is with it having any influence in government.

I am sorry Skip, but I cannot understand what you want to say in the correction above.

This news has made me want to see the film and make up my own mind.

I think the British government wants to be seen as 'fair' so that they will be able to crack down both ways when the time comes, without being loudly accused of bias. They have probably given in to religious pressure this time in order to get support next time. Just my sixpence worth.

nandakandamanda: I meant that religion should not have any influence in government.

This news has made me want to see the film and make up my own mind." and it should be. If a government feels a film will cause great out rage and a theater is owned by them, then I support a ban, but no a ban on a DVD or block it from being downloaded.

However, "I think the British government wants to be seen as 'fair' so that they will be able to crack down both ways when the time comes, without being loudly accused of bias." They are letting very vocal extremists political asylum even as they call for killing British citizens.

They have probably given in to religious pressure this time in order to get support next time." I think they are plain scared, yellow and coward. I think the UK has gone very far in appeasing Muslims there, where as those Muslims themselves would never flip the favor in the other direction.

Jeeez, Britain really is the waste-dump of Europe. Political correctness gone demented.

A disgraceful and cowardly decision on the part of the British government.

What ever one may think of Mr. Wilders' views or his film, an incredible injustice is being done here, not just to Mr. Wilders, but to the British public whose rights are being trampled. Personally, I have seen Fitna and found it to be unimpressive, but that is entirely beside the point. If you feel Mr. Wilders and his film are bigoted, racist or ill informed then it is incumbent upon you to speak out against them, protest (in a civil an responsible manner) against them, or even create your own media to counter his. This is the essence of free speech. Instead, Mr. Wilders' detractors have attempted (indeed succeeded in this particular instance) to silence his voice, which is the antithesis of that essential value which we in the West (used to) hold dear; free speech is one of the pillars of our culture and democracy, and is an essential ward against the creeping forces of tyranny and oppression.

Shame on the British government for this despicable decision, this cowardice. Shame on them for their lack of back bone, their unwillingness or disinclination to protect the sacred rights of their citizens in the face of threats from a violent minority of Muslim radicals and their own stifling politically correct orthodoxy. And shame on them for dishonestly failing to draw a distinction between those whose controversial views may lead to conflict and those who actively advocate and incite violence. Or worse, as if in parody, inverting the position of the two. Indeed, in Britain today the former voices, it would seem, are to be quashed while the latter are to be appeased.

Shame, shame, shame.

Come to think of it, it's more of a publicity stunt for Wilders also.

If you want to get into the UK without attracting attention then you go by boat. Sleepy-eyed customs officers bored out of their minds let anyone in. Even me.

Insane. Holocaust denier and genocidal fantasist Ahmidhinejhad gets invited by the media elite in Britain to insult the entire United Kingdom on national TV, sharing the same time slot with the nation's historical leader and the head of its church, on Christmas day no less. Authorities bow and curtsy and send limos.

Wilders makes a short documentary highlighting verses from the Big Book of Mohammedan Myth, Woo-Woo and Djinn-Banishing and from actual speeches by prominent Muslims and he's the one who gets accused of "hate speech" and is refused entry.

Rev. Dodgson and Eric Blair together could not have come up with something this absurdly Orwellian.

" in Britain to insult the entire United Kingdom on national TV"

Heh, you've been shrieking about this for days.....surely you either support freedom of speech, or you don't.

Even your myopic and terminaly one-sided political leanings should understand this contradiction.

Well maybe we can see that it is the mighty British Empire that has its tail between it's legs in light of the strong presence of muslim extremists within it's own borders. Who could blame them!! They'd be slaughtered by the extremists if they let this guy in. Poor Brits!! Too politically correct for their own good. Now if there's an example of not seeing the forest for the trees this is it.

bushlover,

"Poor Brits!! Too politically correct for their own good"

Not the Brits themselves really - it's the damned "government". And worse, the opposition is even more pathetic...

Geert Wilders was near enough unknown in the UK until this week & his film was wholly unknown. Now the entire country, & the rest of Europe, know about the man & his film. The British government have done an excellent job of promoting this film while at the same time making themselves look like utter cowards.

I have not seen the film & don’t feel there is any need for me to see it, to most English people the concept alone is enough, some will agree, some will not, but that is not the point. Love him, hate him or know & care nothing about him, Wilders should not have been refused entry to the UK.

Britain has become something of a black comedy over the last 8 to 10 years, the Muslin community have been given more & more freedoms that are denied to the general population. A British Christian today can lose their job for displaying their religion (cross) while at the same time legal battles are fought & won to allow Muslims to dress as Muslims even in the most inappropriate of settings.

I suspect that there is an element of racism within all of us, but a sense of society & civilisation will control that, at least up until the point that we are treated unfairly for no other reason than our race. What happens when that “unfairness” is levelled at the indigenous population should be obvious. The extreme right in Britain gains support not from its reasoned arguments (it has none) but from the utter stupidity of a socialist government that creates laws to protect everyone except the indigenous population.

Geert Wilders being refused entry into the country is only one of many such acts of stupidity enacted by the current government. The 5th column is not only known but given financial support while any voice raised against the growing influence of Islam in the country is crushed, sometimes by a prison sentence.

Am I being racist? No, but when I see Frankenstein’s monster being created I can see a monster. A conflict is being created & maybe it is already too late to avoid it.

It's sad for me, as an American to see an allied nation that I had considered to have similar ideals and freedoms to refuse to allow this man to show his film in order to avoid offending someone. Freedom of speech should protect offensive speech as well, as some valid opinions will be found offensive by some people. Once we start moving in this direction how far will it go? Any opinion at all could be interpreted by someone as being offensive. A Yankees fan might find a Red Sox fan's criticism of his favorite team offensive. Should that be illegal? It seems to me that this decision is based on the British government's fear of Islam and their violent reaction to this film, although maybe I shouldn't say so in case I offend someone in Britain as this is apparently grounds for expulsion from a free nation now. I hope in the future that Britain will side with freedom and democracy and not give in to their fear of violence from radical extremists who oppose civil liberties that conflict with their religion.

"Dutch MP Geert Wilders is "seriously considering" taking steps to sue Jacqui Smith over her decision to ban the controversial film-maker from the UK.

The legal action would have the backing of the Dutch Government, in a move which could aggravate the diplomatic row over the ban between London and Amsterdam.

Mr Wilders said he was looking to take legal action against the Home Secretary for "blatant discrimination" in the High Court or International Court in the Hague.

The Dutch Politician and film maker was sent back to Holland on Thursday night after trying to enter Britain to show his anti Muslim film Fitna in the House of Lords.

Mr Wilders had been invited to Westminster by Ukip peer Lord Pearson to show is 17 minute film Fitna, which criticise the Koran as a "facist book".

'...Speaking from the airport while he waited to be removed, Mr Wilders described Prime Minister Gordon Brown as the "biggest coward in Europe" [ouch, lot of slimy bottom feeders in a net that wide] and said Britain's freedom of speech had been "set back centuries".'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4612083/Banned-politician-Geert-Wilders-brands-Gordon-Brown-a-coward.html

[and said Britain's freedom of speech had been "set back centuries".'] Well yeah, it's being set back to only allow the true faith any airtime. We've seen the British muslims on youtube calling for the downfall of the west including the country they live in: Britian.

Foreign Secretary David Miliband, while admitting he had not seen the film, told the BBC: “A hate-filled film which is designed to stir up religious and racial hatred in this country is contrary to our laws.”

Says it all.

I agree with Rurika and Triumvere. Free speech until you don't agree with the speech is no free speech at all. The politician set up a win-win -- Muslim baiting and anti-Liberal baiting (liberal in the Renaissance sense). He got both sides rising to the bait.

I'd very much like to see British Muslims protest this muzzling, just as Jews have protested the muzzling of Holocaust deniers.

I'd also like to see what the basis of "incitement to hatred" is, and how it could even be defined.