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British PM David Cameron to resign after Brexit humiliation

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Most disastrous PM ever?

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Most disastrous PM ever?

Absolutely. Even Boris Johnson won't be able to top this, but I'm sure he will be a close second.

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"Absolutely. Even Boris Johnson won't be able to top this, but I'm sure he will be a close second."

He will be able to top this. Johnson is terrifying.

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Labour to win next?

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I stand with the British people on their decision to take back control of their country.

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Labour to win next?

Not if Scotland leaves.

Farage today thanked allies from Lab, Con and kip in that order. The Labour vote is in his sights.

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Of course Cameron is stunned! He has very little in common with the average person in the UK However, he knows well what his uncontrolled actions have had on the UK as democracy has handed him a rejection of the EC and the dictatorial mandates that it has spawned.........let's welcome the next leader,more in touch with the electorate !!!!

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Serrano, kurisupisu, Yes!

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I stand with the British people on their decision to take back control of their country.

For me, 'control' means being in a position to create jobs for your citizens, to be an attractive place for investment, to not be forced to impose crushing austerity because you've run out of money, to have leverage when you negotiate trade deals, to protect your citizens from international crime and terrorism to the fullest extent possible, and to give your young people every chance to take advantage of opportunities beyond your borders.

In my opinion the UK has completely lost control today by any reasonable definition of the word.

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A Japanese friend in the UK married with kids to an English woman has posted today that the atmosphere as an immigrant where he lives feels very nasty.

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Congratulations my freedom loving British cousins. You have shown the world how to go about divorcing yourselves from the never satisfied left wing. . . .

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Congratulations my freedom loving British cousins. You have shown the world how to go about divorcing yourselves from the never satisfied left wing. . . .

I'm not left wing and I voted remain... you have no idea what you're talking about.

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This referendum, unlike previous ones, has no legally binding clause attached to it. Parliament can still vote it down.

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At least he has the decency to know when to step down, unlike some others. It is hard to find a politician to be able to step aside based on his/her own performance rather than scandals.

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This one sums it up nicely with lots of Statistics...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-the-results-compare-to-the-uks-educated-old-an/

The UK Government really messed up this one, vocal arguments about not letting Turkey into the EU, whilst at the same time advertising the fact that they were working with Turkey for it's entry on their own website didn't really help much...

Next step is the breakup of the UK.

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@T-bird,

Heh, today, your countrymen and women have spoken and they told you, the globalists, the mullahs and the architects of the NWO: No More Brussels Domination.

Happy Independence Day, Britain!!!!

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The revolution is afoot, and it is worldwide. Next, it's either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders in the U.S. Establishment candidate Hillary Clinton is toast.

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Let me congratulation to very brave British peoples for their strong decision and determination to leave EU by ignoring to scaremongers. Now freedom of British peoples is their own hands and no longer in the hands of group of peoples in Brussels and Berlin. The sky is falling down for German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Another German leader’s dream has been crashed down by British peoples.

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the mullahs

Bradford, with a 25% population, voted by 54% to leave, with less than a 67% turnout. This suggests neither a popular anti-muslim vote, nor that muslims are necessarily pro-EU.

A senior conservative of Pakistani origin, Baroness Warsi, was a Leave campaigner, before being put off by the xenophobia.

Any other conspiracy theories?

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This referendum doesn't change anything. You're still the poodle of the US and ruled by the corporations.

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TexsA and Chop Chop - Well said! T

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"Congratulations my freedom loving British cousins. You have shown the world how to go about divorcing yourselves from the never satisfied left wing. . . ."

Stupendous ignorance. Many of the people who voted out and campaigned for out hold views that would have the Texans clutching their bibles in one hand and reaching for the assault weapon above the fireplace with the other while screaming about commies. Some of the most vocal and effective members of the leave campaign were Labour MPs.

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For 6 years he does not have anything positive to say about the EU and suddenly for past 3 months tries to persuade UK to remain, of course people will see his flip flop and contradicting actions.

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Stupendous ignorance.

So, what else is new?

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48.1% Remain - 51.9% Exit....Far too close a call.

The UK Government must not be bounced into invoking article 50 of the Lisbon treaty. Time to take stock of the situation and return to the negotiating table.

The morning after the night before is a time to evaluate, assess and appraise before invoking article 50, and must be at the front end of the Governments strategy as opposed to following a process that is already being demanded by the three stooges European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, European Council leader Donald Tusk, and Martin Schulz, President of the European Parliament that will be a crucial measure the determine success or failure on the back end of withdrawal from the EU. It is time to address the organ grinders not the monkeys.

EU Statement

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-16-2329_en.htm

French President Francois Hollande has expressed the need for 'profound change'....wise words where the foundation to develop and build a new economic and future political relationship could start. The UK has chosen to break from the EU not Europe , however the mandate is wafer thin.

EU referendum results and maps: Full breakdown and find out how your area voted....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

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On the bright side, the history books will remember him as "The PM who lost the British spot in the EU" i

Or even the PM who lost the UK. Voters in Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay with the EU, and now each of the those component states of the UK may pursue independence referenda (which, for Scotland, would be the second time in as many years).

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Anyway, let's get back to the real world.

I fancy Wales to hammer Northern Ireland tomorrow.

Don't trust the bookies!

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You don't think Scottland is out? If I recall, one of the big arguments to remain in the UK was the problem of Scotland overcoming re-admittance into the EU, because countries like Spain didn't want to support separatist movements.

Now that UK voted out of the EU, that is no longer an issue.

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@itsonlyrocknroll

The UK Government must not be bounced into invoking article 50 of the Lisbon treaty.

Unfortunately, Martin Schulz thinks the UK must not be held hostage by uncertainty until October. He has a legitimate concern. The Guardian is reporting that EU lawyers are looking into whether the art. 50 clock can be activated by the EU. It might already be counting down.

My own view: Since article 50 doesn't specify any formalities for informing the Council of your intention to withdraw, it's arguable that publicly announcing your intention to leave on the basis of the referendum result might be sufficient.

On the otherhand, article 50 also says that a member state can withdraw 'in accordance with its own constitutional requirements'. This would be an act of parliament in the UK. However, it's a fairly well established that the procedural technicalities of national parliaments don't defeat provisions in the treaties.

This is going to get very ugly. The UK is no longer in control.

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On a plain reading of article 50, the UK has to form a new government before notifying the Union of its intent to withdraw, because

"Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements"

Even though the UK has no constitution...

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Congratulations, Brits, for standing up against: the New World Order, globalists, nations with wide-open borders where Islamic jihadists can blend into the hoards of Muslim "refugees", the 1% establishment elite filthy rich and the sick progressive agenda festering like a cancerous tumor on western societies . . .

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On our side of the Pond, it ain't gonna happen:

Sanders just endorsed Clinton:

“Yes. The issue right here is I’m going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump. I think Trump in so many ways would be a disaster for this country if he were elected president.”

So, most the Sanderites will come home to the Democrats. As my Porky the Pig says "Th-th-th- that's all folks."

UKIP and Labor came together to take out Cameron.

UKIP = Trump (New) Labor = Clinton Cameron = The Republican Party (Left) Labor = Sanders

The equation don't add up.

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I think he has underestimated the enduring nature and the strength of the euroskeptic support in the country

Based on the statistics that Google showed after the Brexit vote, it seems many people who voted to leave are ignorant people. I'm not just talking about the hateful ones, but literally the ones who don't even know what the EU is nor do they know the consequences of leaving it. Some of the most searched questions after the vote was something like "What is the EU" or "What happens if we leave the EU". Many of these leave-voters are regretting their decision once it started sinking in. Since the stay vs leave votes were actually close, I think Cameron underestimated the strength of the ignorance of the populace, rather than the euroskeptics. Many of the poorer parts of Britain voted to leave for whatever reason. Most of the affordable food stuff and other basic needs that they buy come from other parts of Europe. Now these things will get a bit more expensive.....

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"Congratulations, Brits, for standing up against: the New World Order, globalists, nations with wide-open borders where Islamic jihadists can blend into the hoards of Muslim "refugees", the 1% establishment elite filthy rich and the sick progressive agenda festering like a cancerous tumor on western societies . . ."

Yee haw, Cletus. Have the UK left been absolved of blame now?

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I think Cameron underestimated the strength of the ignorance of the populace,

Politicians never underestimated the ignorance of the populace.

They over-estimate it. They count on it.

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@Black Sabbath

That's one way of looking at it. But prior to the Lisbon Treaty, there was a controversy about whether member states could even withdraw from the EU at all.

So with this in mind, I would only read paragraph 1 as meaning that the EU does not impose any specific requirements that must be met before a member state can properly decide that they want to leave.

For example, it prevents the EU from ever passing a regulation that says: 'a member state shall not be deemed to have decided unless 2 national referendums have been held with a turnout of no less than 80%'.

It's arguable that the only thing the EU requires is the notification. It seems unreasonable to interpret the art 50 as requiring every constitutional or parliamentary procedure to be properly carried out. Otherwise, it would open the door to member states claiming that their notice was invalid because of some national technicality that the EU wasn't even aware of. The question for me seems to be what exactly constitutes a notification?

(Also, I think you meant to say that there is no written constitution?)

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Hi M3, Martin Shultz, billows like a big girls blouse, his huffing and puffing with the Greek people and government amounted to nothing when on the receiving end of a slapping down from Merkel.

48.1%, democratically cannot be just brushed under the carpet. Rattles will be launched out of prams, expect hissy fits and a few tantrums. As sure as night follows day Europe's leaders will, in fact are already taking stock of the situation, threats are being replaced by thoughtful reconciliation. Pragmatism and a subjective approach tempered with the realization that Francois Hollande reference to the EU having received a jolt could produce a more balanced union, and yes with UK membership on a associate level.

No need to rush into invoking article 50, and there is nothing the commission can do about that, trying to spin a legal get around of the Lisbon treaty would ensure a lengthy ECJ process. Yet another example of the Shultz brand of arrogant pompous self-importance based on a posturing pretense that he actually has a democratic mandate or the means to achieve an override of national governments.

Early days, I am disappointed with the result because reveals stark divisions in Great Britain society.

My position of exit from the EU is about fundamental economic reform and restructuring of monetary union for the future generations of Southern Europeans, that have been ruthlessly betrayed.

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M3

I see. Those are good points. I was going just on the plain reading of a legal document, and, as we all know, that's just he start of the interpretation.

Thanks for the clarification.

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@Black Sabbath, @itsonlyrocknroll

Thanks. It's as clear as mud at this point so anyone's guess is as good as mine. I hope you both have a good night. I'm going to get some sleep now and hope that when I wake up tomorrow Brexit was just a bad dream.

trying to spin a legal get around of the Lisbon treaty would ensure a lengthy ECJ process.

But not 2 years worth? I agree that Martin Schulz can be a bit of a super villain but you can really blame him for acting in the EU's interests? This has created so much uncertainty in the markets.

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To invoke Article 50 will require a legislative process submitted before Parliament, debated accordingly. The commission cannot arbitrarily initiate Article 50 against any member states will.

Any severance terms would then have to be ratified both by the European council and the parliament in Strasbourg. “It will be difficult, because it has to go through the EU legislative process, with each state having its own political imperatives,” says Damian Chalmers, professor of European law at the London School of Economics

If Britain voted to leave the EU, what would happen next?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/28/if-britain-voted-to-leave-the-eu-what-would-happen-next

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The remain camp have always been bourgeois as can be and the the temper tantrums on social media is hillarious the lower class voted for another solution and people living in high class places are not gonna care about workers who voted for their best intrest.

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Anybody here read Trump's tweet recently? I think he went to Scotland for an opening of a hotel/golf course there, and he basically implied that the people there were going wild (happy) that the UK voted to leave, while Scotland overwhelmingly voted to stay lol. Anyways, echoes of a second Scottish independence referendum is ringing again. Heck, some Londoners even call for an independent London (London and some southern parts of England voted to stay and they also happen to be the liberal/progressive areas of England).

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/uk-roots-deep-in-united-states-of-europe-712583235511

I guess those people who voted LEAVE have forgotten their history!

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@itsonlyrocknroll

Any severance terms would then have to be ratified both by the European council and the parliament in Strasbourg.

This is entirely true, but remember that this process only applies IF they reach some sort of exit agreement. If no agreement can be reached or time runs out, Britain is automatically out of the EU within 2 years from the time that article 50 is triggered. No votes from the Council or EU Parliament are needed.

The commission cannot arbitrarily initiate Article 50 against any member states will.

Well, it wouldn't be the Commission would it? Curiously, the Commission has little or no official role to play in the exit of a member state. Presumably it would be the Council itself that would decide if it has been given notification under article 50. Is deciding whether they have already received notification a procedural matter where they could get away with a qualified majority vote? hmm.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm also looking forward to seeing if there are any new polls which might show that Britons now overwhelmingly support remaining in the EU, despite the referendum vote.

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