California brings back mask mandate as virus cases rise

Nice to see a State that takes public health seriously and institutes rational policy based on the advice of public health professionals.

“We know people are tired and hungry for normalcy. Frankly, I am too,” California Health and Human Services Secretary Dr Mark Ghaly said Monday.

but this is the new normal for the foreseeable future. and it's hardly a burden to wear a mask while you're inside a public space. in japan, you wear a mask as soon as you step out of your door.

is it what the new normal. I'm in Japan and I do not wear a mask as soon as I step out the front door. What a ridiculous comment to make.

Agreed. There is no reason to where a mask outdoors, unless you are stuck in a stationary place surrounded by people. Otherwise, they are of no value.

If only the governor of California would practice what he preaches. But rules are for the 'little people', not the elite.

Californians are getting what they deserve. They had the chance to vote Newsome out a few months back and squandered it.

Anyone with an ounce of sense is moving interstate.

The contrast between Blue and Red State Governors could not be more clearer...

Blue State leaders trying to protect their people and save lives....

Red States autocrats defunding schools and punishing small businesses for having mask mandates when they are just trying to protect their students, employees, and customers....

Red State Big Government run amok....putting more of their citizens in the ICU and the grave...

Just follow science and use mask..

Rebellion is for losers..

BradleyToday  12:19 pm JST

Californians are getting what they deserve. 

What a cruel and nasty statement. Californians don't deserve this resurgence of COVID. They certainly don't deserve to get sick and die.

You might be better off directing your ire at Newsome et al for not allowing doctors to prescribe cheap, safe and effective drugs that save lives. Masks have little positive effect but plenty of negative psychological ones.

The solution for this is for anyone who doesn't like it, just doesn't do it. These kinds of mandates aren't legal and the covid state of emergency has over stayed its welcome by this point. No use fighting against it. You can't beat tyranny on its own terms. Just don't comply.

California brings back mask mandate as virus cases rise

All lip service as the mask mandate will not be enforced.

zichiToday  02:17 pm JST

Masks do not stop the spread of the virus 100% but they are effective in decreasing it. But other measures are also needed.

Why In America are there record numbers of deaths, 800,000 and 53 million cases when compared to Japan 19,000 deaths and 1.73 million cases?

Yeah, and the UK is getting hit hard. It is really out of control there.

Combined with various political scandals, what a mess.

California is bringing back a statewide indoor mask mandate.

I guess this worked so well last time.

Better than noting” is a defeatist emotional response given when you know your “solution” doesn’t work.

Better than noting” is a defeatist emotional response given when you know your “solution” doesn’t work.

Not at all. It's an acknowledgement that while not perfect, wearing a mask is certainly better than doing nothing.

It is interesting to note how anti-vaxx/mask types are quick to claim the current solutions are ineffective, but never ever off their own suggestions.

masks are supposed to be supported by science. Yet when people admit they dont 100% work, we never get a number for a percentage that they DO work.

if it were science based, that number would be known and presented. Like when we hear that 84% of hospitalized are unvaccinated and 16% are not. Yet what we get for masks is "better than nothing" or "significantly decreases" which are emotional measurements to make people feel more safe by doing a useless activity while thinking it makes them safe.

Yet when people admit they dont 100% work, we never get a number for a percentage that they DO work.

Those numbers are out there. They have been posted here before. It isn't like it matters though, because at no point would the anti-vaxxers/maskers admit they've been proven wrong.

if it were science based, that number would be known and presented. Like when we hear that 84% of hospitalized are unvaccinated and 16% are not. 

It is science based. They scientific community overwhelmingly supports mask wearing AND vaccinations.

Yet what we get for masks is "better than nothing" or "significantly decreases" which are emotional measurements to make people feel more safe by doing a useless activity while thinking it makes them safe.

There is absolutely nothing "emotional" than words like "better than nothing" or "significantly decreases." Again, the anti-vax/mask crowd isn't interested in arguing facts, because they've got nothing.

the seat belt analogy doesnt work.

To apply that to seat belts, you are saying you think more accidents would happen if people didnt wear seatbelts.

But seat belts have nothing to do with accident prevention as almost everyone in accidents were wearing a seat belt when it happened.

Masks dont prevent COVID any more than seat belts prevent accidents.

Masks dont prevent COVID

They do, actually.

so why have millions of mask wearers obviously gotten COVID?

they kinda work, thus "better than nothing", right?

Masks dont prevent COVID any more than seat belts prevent accidents.

They both prevent fatalities, which is the point. Any proof, actually peer reviewed articles that show that masks do not work?

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

so why have millions of mask wearers obviously gotten COVID?

Because they're not 100% effective.

they kinda work, thus "better than nothing", right?

Exactly correct. They won't 100% prevent you from getting Covid-19, but they help lower community spread.

they kinda work, thus "better than nothing", right?

Yes.

If, "doing nothing" is your argument on how to fight a global pandemic, you're going to need to give some pretty convincing evidence.

And the former President suggesting "inject disinfectant" isn't convincing evidence.

I am so glad I left Call. Loved it, but don’t miss or would trade it for anything. Love my freedom way too much. I do miss the food though.