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One very important point nobody seems to be asking about is why was this crazy carrying a very big knife? Is this normal on buses in Canada, does one need a big knife on buses in Canada? I know that it is a big country with large open spaces, but does mean that there are no rest stops, do passengers have to get off the bus every few days & hurt some fresh meat? So therefore needing a big knife?

I did think Canada was one of those really sad countries where nothing ever happens. Well they made a bid for the murder olympics with this one.

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blah blah blah blah blah-- The media loves to report violence every day, and they hope that people will react with negative emotions such as anger and vengeance. It is just how the media wants you to be -- in a state of negative emotional frequencies -- in a state of fear when you ride public transport. It is an isolated random act of violence, and it will not deter me one bit from riding the Greyhound or sitting next to a stranger on the bus.

If you look at the mainstream news everyday, you do not get a realistic portrayal of society. Everyone seems to love the reports on murder, natural disasters and the like. The good news, the other 98 percent, no one wants to hear.

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Uh-oh, latest report identifies the attacker, a 40 year old male apparently ethnic Chinese (don't know if immigrant or native Canadian). At any rate hopefully this won't ifluence the hate mongers.

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Not good news from Canada.

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This would make me think twice about sitting next to a stranger on a bus anywhere. I used to ride the Greyhound all over when I was in college because it was a cheap way to travel. There were always wierd people on the bus but I certainly would never have expected something like this.

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This doesn't surprise me either. a lot of sick things occur in Canada, despite what some posters in here would like to believe, and are clearly in denial.

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"I am surprised this happened in Canada,"

Why ??? Why the surprise ? Because you've been programed not to look too deeply into "everyday" crime as it occurs there ? I for one am very realistic about Canada... and "no" this doesn't surprise me !

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This 40-year-old nutter should be executed as soon as possible, but unfortunately, Canadian taxpayers will probably pay for his food, clothing, housing and medical care for the next 40 years or more.

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I am surprised this happened in Canada, but I suppose insanity doesn't consider international borders.

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Believe me if the perp was smoking any of the weed from there he would have been asleep too. The guy was a nutter and methodical about it. I doubt this was drug induced more like a lack of drugs for this guy.

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westurn: "Don't go laying this on Canada (as a country)". There is nothing to indicate that Canadian laws, or the lack thereof, led in any way to the crime at hand.

This is a sick and heinous crime, and I feel VERY sorry for the victim and any family he has. Clearly the murderer flipped out, and I'll be interested in following the news to see if there's ANY reason at all as to why.

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Sounds like a schizophrenic

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The victim was 19-20. The attacker was around 40 years old, and some witnesses have described him as Native, not the victim.

And Zen Builder, I don't agree

What it shows me is that humans are being pushed to their limits and simply flip.

This is not someone who just flipped after being pushed to the limit. This is the action of someone insane, or affected by some powerful drugs/medication. An unprovoked attack of stabbing 40-50 times, decapitation, and further carving of the body, and displaying the head for any to see is not just a human who has "simply flip[ped]".

I see nothing "human" in those actions, or "simple".

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skipthesong...

"don't go getting on Canada about this, it is an odd occurrence.

As was the Vancouver pig farmer, Robert Pickton, who possibly hacked up as many as 49 women ???

Funny how it's ok to demonize the US whenever somthing like this occurs... but when it happens in yer backyard, boy "don't go gettin on us... it don't happen everyday" comes a gushin' ! Cmon Canada ! Shake yerself !!! This is one sick puppy you got on yer hands ! Begs the question... What the hells goin on up there in the great white north ?

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Ok, my bad the victim appears to be around 19yrs no age given on attacker (that is my sources).

Always willing to be corrected.

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The perp was 40 and the passenger (described in one news source as 'aboriginal', whatever that means) was around 19-20.

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Hmmm, sources I read said he was 19.

Need to double-check

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Skip: don't go getting on Canada about this

Don't worry. I won't do to them what they'd do to us.

Proxy: It may have been racially motivated as the young victim was Native.

Care to point out anything else about the victim and add the "maybe" tag? He was a man...maybe homophobia was his motivation?

The guy lost touch with reality. There is no logical explanation when that happens.

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Zen are you talking about the victim in this specific case? The guy who committed this crime is around 40 years old or so.

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What it shows me is that humans are being pushed to their limits and simply flip. No-one here mentioned so far is that the guy was only 19. Apologies if I give info from other news-sources apart from JT.

It can happen to you or me, we just need to get pushed far enough.

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Here's the Globe and Mail's account of this event: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wdeath01/BNStory/National/home

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It should be but isn't beyond belief. It just keeps pushing the bounds of imagination. Whatever next?

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There's a part of me that thinks weird people like these killers, maybe a small part of their psyche, crave media attention. I'm not saying that was the primary motivator, but why would a guy out of nowhere not only stab, but mutilate and do outrageous things to a corpse on a very public arena? He didn't even off himself, now the world media will descend on this place and creep. Soon his face will be all over the world media.

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It is full of drifters, dopers and people from the bottom of the barrel.

Many of em bound for BC. That's what you get when your number one cash crop is marijuana.

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don't go getting on Canada about this, it is an odd occurrence.

But, who in their right mind uses greyhound to begin with?

The whole world is falling apart.... Oz, US, Japan, Canada, Brazil,.. what's the next country we get to hear of sick crimes such as this before the week ends?

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frontandcentre, maybe you feel you can ask people to turn down their music, but no one in a bus, train or underground in London for example would dare. Some people are seething with anger and would love to ask others politely to turn it down, but afraid of what might happen in return.

I can see this guy deciding to act on his basic instincts and smiling as he does it. "Look folks, I have the ba11s to do something about it!" Perhaps fuelled by something his psychiatrist is trying out on him, or has just stopped.

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Its now being reported that the killer was eating body parts he was cutting off the corpse.

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This is pretty sick. Any connection between victim and attacker?

Creepy.

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It may have been racially motivated as the young victim was Native.

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That is so goddamn scary

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Kill six more? He was probably just fed up with the guy's headphone music which was leaking out all over the bus even though he was asleep anyway. Why would he want to kill anyone else?

Once again a stupid statment... If a human (those of us who can think) has a problem with someones headphones we dont kill them.. But some people I guess live in comics and video games and think that is normal.

the 6 more was in reference to multiple stabbings in Japan, and at least it was only one of the many people on the bus..

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All I can say is that is nuts. I guess it's lucky he didn't have a gun.

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Greyhound transport has been the worst form of transportation in Canada for many years now. It is full of drifters, dopers and people from the bottom of the barrel. This is a perfect example of animal behaviour.

U.S. is pretty much the same so I never use it. Always stuck next to some junkie or single mom.

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Greyhound transport has been the worst form of transportation in Canada for many years now. It is full of drifters, dopers and people from the bottom of the barrel. This is a perfect example of animal behaviour.

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“It’s not something that happens regularly on a bus,” he said.

understatement, thankfully

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Good heavens, this is horrible.

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What a nightmare.

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Kill six more? He was probably just fed up with the guy's headphone music which was leaking out all over the bus even though he was asleep anyway. Why would he want to kill anyone else?

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"...the victim was sleeping with headphones on before he was stabbed 40 or 50 times by the man sitting next to him."

I wonder if the noise from the headphone was the trigger that cause the crazy person to attack the victim. I am sure you all know what I am referring to as noise from the headphone, it can be very irritating.

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Caton said that the attacker eventually tried to get off the bus, but that he, the driver and a passing trucker who had stopped to help, threw their weight against the door to prevent the man from leaving. When the attacker appeared to be attempting to start up the bus and drive away, the bus driver went to the rear of the bus and somehow disabled it, Caton said.

They did detain him and that is very brave of them... Better then letting him get out and kill six more...

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life and death are so random. You just happen to be seated next to a mental case on the bus....

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I cannot believe how many people on other sites have wondered why no one tried to help the stabbing victim ... it probably happen so fast by time people were aware what was going on he was already dead.

I agree with you, rjd_jr.

So sick, so incomprehensible. The other passengers did their best, there was nothing they could've done to help that poor young man.

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This proves that in high stress situations it is normal human behavior to want to escape such horror. I cannot believe how many people on other sites have wondered why no one tried to help the stabbing victim (much like some here who wonder why no one does anything when victims are stabbed on subway and the like). Not only is someone on a crowded getting stabbed highly unexpected it probably happen so fast by time people were aware what was going on he was already dead. I do not blame any of these people for wanting to get off bus as fast as they can.

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Winnipeg, Murder capital Canada.

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