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Canada PM Trudeau dukes it out with Tory rival over climate, election timing

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Those too young to vote should listen with their ears and not with their mouths.

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I don't like these neo-liberal/neo-con globalist career politicians, but it's kinda cool that these guys do debates in both French and English.

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Those too young to vote should listen with their ears and not with their mouths.

And old folks should stop telling young people to shut up.

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Ego Sum Lux MundiToday  02:55 pm JST

I don't like these neo-liberal/neo-con globalist career politicians, but it's kinda cool that these guys do debates in both French and English.

Maxim Bernier seems to be the only one talking sense.

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Hope Trudeau loses if only for his ridiculous, knee-jerk firearm policies.

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Hope Trudeau loses if only for his ridiculous, knee-jerk firearm policies.

Yeah its a real scandal the way Canada has fallen so far behind the US in the number of mass shootings, homicides involving firearms, deaths from accidental shootings, armed mobs storming its legislature and other metrics used to measure the existence of sensible firearms policies.

Thanks, Trudeau.

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No matter what country, conservatives seem to be so selfish and in denial of reality. And please don't give me that crap about family values,

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Pukey2Today  06:44 pm JST

No matter what country, conservatives seem to be so selfish and in denial of reality. And please don't give me that crap about family values,

As much as I hate to agree with you :-) ... you're not too far wrong. Most of the main conservative parties around the have sold out their support base and countries long ago. Aside from the hair, this Conservative leader O'Toole is barely distinguishable from Trudeau, which is a worry.

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Are any of you commentators Canadian? From what I've read thus far, I seriously doubt it.

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I don't like these neo-liberal/neo-con globalist career politicians, but it's kinda cool that these guys do debates in both French and English.

I think in future US debates they will do them in English/Spanish, they did last time a little

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Are any of you commentators Canadian? From what I've read thus far, I seriously doubt it.

I think the alternative media put Trudeau on the hymn sheet under ‘bad/globalist’.

They just regurgitate it.

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I think in future US debates they will do them in English/Spanish, they did last time a little

That’s a great idea, it’s good to have people proficient in more than one language.

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I don't like these neo-liberal/neo-con globalist career politicians, but it's kinda cool that these guys do debates in both French and English.

As compared to what? extreme right wing amateurs???

America just finished 4 years of that, no one wants that repeated.

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Are any of you commentators Canadian? From what I've read thus far, I seriously doubt it.

I’m Canadian.

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It wasn't just the other candidates who called Trudeau on the timing of the election. The moderator, Patrice Roy, started everything by “I’m sorry Mr. Trudeau, but it’s an undesired election.” His reply: “It’s precisely because Canadians need a say on how we get out of this, and should have a say.” Otherwise pretty much talking points, but the other interesting moment is when Trudeau was asked about coordinating an opening of the Canada-U.S. border. Trudeau replied that he speaks to the U.S. president “often.” When asked if he had been forgotten by him, Trudeau said “Not at all.”

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Trudeau is by far the worst PM Canada has ever had.

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Ridiculous

Trudeau is by far the worst PM Canada has ever had.

Harper destroyed the fisheries library (literally had all their data over decades destroyed and thrown out) in the Maritimes because the data conflicted with his climate denier views. You know nothing.

People are upset because they have to vote, but to throw the country away and vote for Cons who can only be ruinous and make life worse makes not a wit of sense. Most media are owned by Con companies who always endorse right wing governments and have nothing to do with the majority of Canadians. Add up Liberal party, NDP, and Green and it's 55% of the vote. If it weren't for FPTP Cons would never be elected.

Trudeau is likely to be held to a minority thanks to the right wing of the PPC, splitting the Con vote, and to what extent NDP voters decide to vote for the Liberal party to thwart the Cons (an often occurrence)

Also I'm Canadian

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Also thanks to the ruinous Con governments in Alberta and Ontario, their overall national appeal is in tatters. Because the Liberal party is more national and not just a local rump party, this is why they can have a lower percentage of the vote and still beat them.

To illustrate this visit 338canada.com/sim.htm and put in the latest poll results. Even with Liberals 31.6% and Cons 33.5%, it still projects a Liberal party majority.

Please note this is a parliamentary system so we elect representatives of the parties, we don't directly vote for the leaders. The leaders have to win their own riding but can still technically lose but their party win the election. They'd just select a new leader. That happens usually on a losing party or between elections where the party internally switches leaders due to some internal revolt.

Also we can vote over multiple days and mail in ballots in advanced polls, outside of the general election day. I usually do an advanced poll vote, takes about 10 minutes.

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*minority, not majority

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This debate was notable for the candidates staying on their talking points and not creating too many sparks.

Last night was a different matter completely.

This time in English.

Right out of the gate, Paul accused Trudeau of not being a “real feminist.” (“A feminist doesn’t continue to push strong women out of his party when they are just seeking to serve"). O’Toole then accused Trudeau of putting his politics ahead of Canada’s Afghan allies. ("“You put your own political interests ahead of the well being of thousands of people;” “You should not have called this election, you should have gotten the job done in Afghanistan”).

Ouch!

And those were the polite parts.

Wow moment came when Trudeau scolded APTN's Melissa Ridgen, when questioning Trudeau about the festering issue of eliminating boil-water advisories on First Nation reserves, that “one of the enemies of progressive politics is cynicism.”

Subtile.

This was the last time before the election that candidates will share the same stage. This at the time as the Liberals and Conservatives are in a dead heat in national polls (33 % each among decided voters).

Anyone care to vote who won last night?

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