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Canada has one of the world’s highest rates of vaccination against the coronavirus — shots which are primarily designed to keep those who become infected from falling seriously ill.

So the shots in Canada aren't intended to prevent people from becoming infected.

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So the shots in Canada aren't intended to prevent people from becoming infected.

All vaccines for infectious diseases in the world work this way. Their objective is not to prevent infection (which is realistically not possible to do efficiently) but to prevent the dangers that come from that infection.

For example people can get infected by the poliovirus, they may even get a slight fever but for the vas majority of the vacinees the infection will not progress to cause paralysis.

The covid vaccines are the same, they are meant to keep people alive and healthy even if infected, that the rates of infection and transmission are reduced is an extra benefit.

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Anyone questioning if the vaccines work or not only need to look at Canada's high vaccination numbers, and low deaths per capita overall. Anyone who thinks they don't work, needs to explain how Canada kept their numbers down. Are they just too nice for the virus or something?

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LOL

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So the shots in Canada aren't intended to **prevent people from becoming infected.**

All vaccines for infectious diseases in the world work this way.

Yeah, that's what they say now. But not at the start of the roll out, when "experts" were talking about what percentage of vaccination was needed to reach herd immunity, a term we no longer hear.

These vaccines do not prevent infection; even Pfizer's CEO stated multiple times that his vaccines have little effect on preventing infections.

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I seem to remember a certain President of a large country stating emphatically, "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

In any case, this is Trudeau's first bout with Covid anyway, The January case was bogus. He was just trying to hide from the righteous anger of his own citizens.

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Canada has one of the world’s highest rates of vaccination against the coronavirus — shots which are primarily designed to keep those who become infected from falling seriously ill.

Authors missed an important aspect of vaccines.

Their objective is not to prevent infection (which is realistically not possible to do efficiently) but to prevent the dangers that come from that infection.

Not true with vaccines as a whole, as the CDC points out booster shots even protect against Covid-19, so I will listen to the medical professionals on this point:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html

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shots which are primarily designed to keep those who become infected from falling seriously ill.

so this is the new narrative after experimental vaccines were forced on hundreds of millions of people. Still no long term health effects from vaccines, and research on Long COVID, although initial studies report cognitive dysfunction, and heart and lung abnormalities.

I couldn’t visit my dying mother because I’m not vaccinated, now the official narrative is vaccinated people catch and spread the virus.

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Not true with vaccines as a whole, as the CDC points out booster shots even protect against Covid-19, so I will listen to the medical professionals on this point:

Do you understand the difference between saying something is a benefit and the same thing being the primary objective? Your source does absolutely nothing to contradict the fact that vaccines are not meant to efficiently prevent infection. For that you need something that says vaccines are intended principally to prevent infection, not only symptoms, hospitalizations and deaths.

The CDC (as well as other medical authorities like the WHO) explicitly says this:

for example

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html

While vaccines are the safest way to protect a person from a disease, no vaccine is perfect. It is possible to get a disease even when vaccinated, but the person is less likely to become seriously ill.

A really big hint is that the vaccines are "COVID-19 vaccines" (against the disease) and not "SARS-CoV-2 vaccines" (against the viral infection)

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so this is the new narrative after experimental vaccines were forced on hundreds of millions of people

No, this is the same "narrative" since the first vaccine was developed. The vaccines are there to protect from the disease (specially from the worst forms of the disease), if you mistakenly understood they prevent the infection that is all on you, no change from the medical point of view.

Still no long term health effects from vaccines, and research on Long COVID, although initial studies report cognitive dysfunction, and heart and lung abnormalities.

Well, since scientists have no access to time machines it is not rational to expect studies on long term before that long term has come. Still long term effects do not appear magically from nothing but are a consequence of changes that can usually be identified long before, on the case of covid these problems have already been identified, so it is clear that even taking into account long term problems covid is a much riskier option than vaccinating.

I couldn’t visit my dying mother because I’m not vaccinated, now the official narrative is vaccinated people catch and spread the virus.

There is no "now" that has been always the case, this is more frequent now because of the variants, which was predicted even before the vaccines were developed. The purpose of the vaccines is not to eliminate completely the risk, but to reduce it (both for the vaccinated person and the community in general) with a safe and effective intervention.

Thinking otherwise is like saying that there is no point in making illegal to drink and drive, because "now" the narrative is that sober people can still have traffic accidents.

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