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Canadian police arrest 10 youths for wanting to join IS

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after suspecting them of wanting to go to Iraq and Syria to join the Islamic State group.

I didn't know that "wanting" something was a crime, let alone the "being suspected of wanting something".

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I didn't know that "wanting" something was a crime, let alone the "being suspected of wanting something".

There are no charges but passports were confiscated. That is all.

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Police asked the media to respect the privacy of the family members

In or to give full respect to the family members, Police should not have disclosed this information to media (?!)

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The Canadian public opinion, and families of other youths who have gone to Iraq and Syria asked the Canadian government earlier this year to prevent more youth from being radicalized. Glad to see some progress here. This is a serious issue discussed in Canada since January.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/advocates-say-more-needs-to-be-done-to-prevent-youth-radicalization-1.2919107

A lawyer for one of the people arrested told Radio-Canada his client is a "victim" who was approached online and promised "a better life."

Some of those arrested have ties to the six Quebecers who are thought to have left for Turkey, en route to Syria, in January.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/10-montreal-youth-arrested-on-suspicion-of-wanting-to-join-jihad-1.3079873

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Some of those arrested have ties to the six Quebecers who are thought to have left for Turkey, en route to Syria, in January.

The question you should be asking is why Turkey, a NATO member, is allowing young men to cross the border into Syria to join Al Qaida and ISIS.

ISIS and Al Qaida would be choked of reinforcements, money and arms if NATO member Turkey simply closed the border.

Why don't they?...

Hmm....

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thought crimes.

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@Burning Bush

ISIS and Al Qaida would be choked of reinforcements, money and arms if NATO member Turkey simply closed the border.

Why don't they?...

Unfortunately it's a bit more complicated. Turkey has taken in over 1 million Syrian refugees over the years and many who fled to Turkey and Jordan are now crossing back into Syria to live in relatively safe areas. Obviously, Turkey wants them all to head back as soon as possible so they need to keep the borders open to some extent.

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Thought crimes?? That's a hard argument to make when the suspects were at the airport with tickets to go overseas and the intention to join a known terrorist group.

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all that free healthcare and friendliness must be driving people crazy up there.

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Indeed thought crime. wouldn't it be easier to just lets these people go to the middle east but don't let them come back?

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Quick, deport them to Ramadi before the Iraqi government takes it back from IS.

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@uniden, you're right; we're far too friendly up here and by gum, all that free healthcare drives us wacky. Or maybe it's the beer.

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@uniden, There are no such thing as free health care, It is TAX PAYER money that are supporting the system.

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Are they really Canadians?

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BuBuBuMay. 20, 2015 - 04:37PM JST Thought crimes?? That's a hard argument to make when the suspects were at the airport with tickets to go overseas and the intention to join a known terrorist group.

Did you even read your post? Please show me their "intention". Is it written on their forehead? No.

Therefore Tessa's spot on.

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Well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the authorities have more than just a plane ticket as evidence.

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Why doesn't anyone want to join the Sunnis who are fighting ISIS ?

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Did you even read your post? Please show me their "intention". Is it written on their forehead? No.

By that logic we would never arrest somebody before they commit a crime. Show me the Boston bombers' "intention" to blow a bunch of people up with a pressure cooker. You can't? Thought crime! Evil fascists are oppressing these poor kids with a pressure cooker! Had they been arrested before the bombing, you'd be on here condemning it.

I swear, some people will stop at nothing to justify and excuse radical Islam.

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While, as an atheist, I find Islamic fundamentalist groups like ISIS absolutely abhorrent, I do think it's a bit hypocritical that young Jewish Canadians can very easily go to Israel and join the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and partake in the killing of muslim women and children in Gaza and the Occupied Territories, and no one questions their motives or confiscates their passports at the airport. Apples and Oranges? I personally don't think so. Young Muslims are joining the ranks of ISIS because they firmly believe they are defending Islam and the Islamic Caliphate from forces apposed to it (initially the armed forces of Syrian dictator Bashar Hafez al-Assad, with the support and blessing of the West) and I presume that young Jews who join the IDF do so to defend what they perceive are threats to Israel, the Jewish state. An honest evaluation would conclude a double standard.

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IllyasMay. 21, 2015 - 06:34AM JST

Did you even read your post? Please show me their "intention". Is it written on their forehead? No.

By that logic we would never arrest somebody before they commit a crime. Show me the Boston bombers' "intention" to blow a bunch of people up with a pressure cooker.

Do you understand how the law works? You need physical evidence. The police would be free to arrest the Boston bomber the moment he combined the ingredients into a bomb because making and possessing explosives is a crime. Or the moment he made a threat he could be arrested, because making threats is a crime.

Thinking about it? Can't be proven therefore not illegal.

However just buying a pressure cooker? By your logic the Japanese police could arrest most people in Japan right now for the "intention" to commit a terrorist act. Most of us have a rice cooker, most of us have common cleaning supplies. Well done, you've just made 99% of the people in Japan into terrorists.

You can't? Thought crime! Evil fascists are oppressing these poor kids with a pressure cooker! Had they been arrested before the bombing, you'd be on here condemning it.

These kids were going overseas to Syria. Last time I checked going to Syria wasn't a crime. And as for their intention to commit a crime? Prove it. They hadn't actually committed a crime yet, and until that point they're innocent.

I swear, some people will stop at nothing to justify and excuse radical Islam.

No, some people will stop at nothing to insist that the authorities follow the law and don't arrest people who haven't actually committed a crime yet.

Unless you'd like to be arrested for that highly suspicious rice cooker, bottle of bleach and bottle of ammonia in your apartment? I mean you're looking a lot like a terrorist right now.

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@Frungy Because youths just randomly fly to Syria without telling their parents for any reason other than joining IS. Basic common sense suggests they should be detained, but you'd rather be pedantic about the law in order to shield would-be terrorists.

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