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Cardinals fail to elect new pope on first day of conclave

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I am not Catholic anymore, but I am Christian and I hope that the next Pope do a great job and make the Catholic church return to its source.

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of course,they failed....a pope can't be elected in a day!

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I vote for the priest up there who compared papal wheelings and dealings to Lord of the Rings.

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I hope they choose someone young who will be more open-minded about the modern world and the Church's place in it. It would make sense to give it to a cardinal from South and Latin America as that is where most of the world's catholics hail from.

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Am waiting to see who will be the head of my church. It will be interesting to see who they pick.

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Angelo Scola is the favourite at 3/1. According to the bookies there has been quite a bit of cash on him in the last week. A mere pup at 71, but he ticks all the boxes - publicly declared himself anti-feminist, anti-gay and anti-contraception. Might have a flutter on him myself.

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They are making an important decision the more time they take the better. About his beliefs it is the stance of the mother Church. You are free to believe anything you want and so are we.

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Just been watching the latest on BBC. The gasps of anticipation when smoke appears and the groans of disappointment when it isn't white, the elaborate garb and even more elaborate architecture. Say what you want about the Catholic Church, but they know how to put on a bloody good show. I've put 50 quid on Scola. Come on Angelo!

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I was born into the Catholic faith in Mexico, like millions of others Mexicans, without any choice, but when I grew up, read and reread the bible, I was sure that around 17 years of age that it was NOT FOR ME, so my guess, millions and millions of others around the world were born into it, do not think too much about it and just try to "go with the flow" so they may be pretending to actually be excited about this new pope etc..as for me, sorry folks happy, very happy to have become a Buddhist! NMRK

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@Elbuda 'Born into it'. You can say the same about any religion - other Christian denominations, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism. Research shows that it tends to be atheists or agnostics who have a wider knowledge of religions and are more likely to have read the respective scriptures. Most ( not all ) believers 'go with the flow' of the faith they were born into.

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I pray for a guy who has radical faith, not just a hat full of papal duties. Someone who can say... rituals over, get back to the basics of real , pure , true Christianity of love for Jesus, the Bible and giving to the world. Let the priests marry and have children so they can relate to people and not be tempted to get weird with boys... Someone who sees the world in desperate need of love and truth, not a compromiser.

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I bet on a caucasian from South America. Can't be any other color and South America has a strong base.

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Give a black or an asian a jersey. I reckon that youngish Filipino cardinal or the Ghana fella would give the show a real shake. White Europeans sure have made a hash of the gig in the last few decades!

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I hope they choose someone young who will be more open-minded about the modern world and the Church's place in it. It would make sense to give it to a cardinal from South and Latin America as that is where most of the world's catholics hail from.

Yeah.. considering that we inherited Catholicism from Spaniards and Portuguese, and lately the scandals come from Latin America, it makes sense to have someone close to our reality.....

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I pray for a guy who has radical faith, not just a hat full of papal duties. Someone who can say... rituals over, get back to the basics of real , pure , true Christianity of love for Jesus, the Bible and giving to the world. Let the priests marry and have children so they can relate to people and not be tempted to get weird with boys... Someone who sees the world in desperate need of love and truth, not a compromiser.

Catholicism is not only about Jesuchrist, the traditional ways of Catholicism (with all its flaws) considers the holy trinity (God, Jesus and the Holy spirit) as well our devotion to Virgin Mary and the Saints. In Latin America, the only religion that allows to celebrate our Virgin Mary is Catholicism, As for the problem with priests and pedophilia it is a delicate issue to be solved by simply allow priest to marry and have children. I guess you could say that the Catholic Church should be more stern when allowing applicants, because the priesthood and all that involves is voluntary....

On the other hand Catoholicism is full of politics, when you say "radical faith" it seems that you are asking for an opus dei Pope, whereas it could be jesuit, or from other current....

I know that your heart is in the right place, but please abstain for such comments, you sound judgmental and it's like that you see us Catholics as a "lost herd", which we get a lot from "Christian people", even now you still try to impose your beliefs and opinions on us... please refrain to do so.

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Ugh, this is the worst reporting I've ever seen. It's all sound bites chosen from loonies who don't know what they're talking about. The way it's written, it's like all the cardinals are playing with a ouija board to decide it. It's a HUGE decision that they have to make. I also love all the people here commenting on it like a horse race.

And all of these people talking about "going back to the roots of Christianity" and "going back to the Bible", um, HELLO, where do you think the Bible came from??? Most Protestants have this wild belief that the Bible lay at the foot of the cross when Jesus died. It took generations after the death of Christ for it to be compiled. The Catholic Church is the source.

On an ending note, I do hope the new pope is great and inspires people to faith.

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Zen student: I hope they choose someone young who will be more open-minded about the modern world and the Church's place in it. It would make sense to give it to a cardinal from South and Latin America as that is where most of the world's catholics hail from.

I know many people feel that way, but your two wishes are probably mutually exclusive. Latin and South American Catholics have the reputation of being the most conservative of all.

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New Pope is Pope Francis. Formerly Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina.

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turns out that zen student was right... 71 years and from South America.... (which is the same as to say Latin American)

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JoiceRojo: turns out that zen student was right... 71 years and from South America.... (which is the same as to say Latin American)

Zen Student wanted someone both not so conservative and from Latin or South America. Unfortunately that didn't happen - as I predicted he's very conservative (and he's 76 not 71). He's conservative enough to have been the runner-up in the previous papal election.

That is not to say he doesn't have good qualities. His humility is a very welcome attribute, and the Jesuits seek to accomplish something Buddhists strive for - renouncing attachments to material things.

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@Photoman you're right.

First: to say Latin American and South American is the same, All South American are Latin American, although the South is a subset of Latin American (which includes Mexico, the Caribbean and South America).

The age, I misunderstood, but I don't this that there is a big difference between 76 and 71.

You say he's very conservative, maybe because he doesn't support gay marriage? or because he is Jesuit?, The Catholic Church will not change these views about gay marriage, abortion, and premarital sex, all that stuff is part of the ideals of Divinity and Christianity, When I think of "liberal", I'm thinking the Pope tolerant enough to understand and comprehend these actions, to forgive them if there is remorse and welcome again. Conservative means to me that if you don't follow the cannon, you are excomulgated or punished by the Church (as it was before).

Since Francisco is humble, maybe he follows another great Jesuit: Alberto Hurtado who it is a Saint now declared by the Church, and he was humble and tolerant.

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