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U.S. opens COVID vaccine to little kids; shots begin this week

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Less than a third of children ages 5 to 11 have done so since vaccination opened up to them last November.

More than two-thirds of parents don't trust the CDC and FDA's claim of "safe and effective"

The fringe minority has become a clear majority.

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More than two-thirds of parents don't trust the CDC and FDA's claim of "safe and effective"

Invalid conclusion, parents can simply believe there is no risk for their children, so even a safe and effective vaccine is not really necessary for now. This is of course mistaken but people frequently choose mistakes of omission. It is the same as being overweight, most people do believe the experts when they say it is negative for their health, but still half of the US population is at least overweight.

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parents can simply believe there is no risk for their children,

Which means that 2/3 of parents are doubtful of the "effective" claim.

Despite the fact that the vaccines are totally free and available everywhere in America, parents don't want to inject their kids with that stuff.

This is the CDC's fault as their eroded the public's trust because they misled the public from the beginning. They should have clearly and fairy stated at the start of the vaccine rollout that:

1: This is not a single shot vaccine, you'll need endless boosters because of "waning" after a few months.

2: These vaccines are not designed to prevent infection. After taking the vaccine you can still catch the virus and become a threat to the immunocompromised person sitting next to you on the bus. In other words, these vaccines don't "protect those around you", they only stop you the individual from noticing your symptoms after you get infected.

If the CDC had told the full truth from the beginning, they wouldn't have the trust problem they do now.

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Which means that 2/3 of parents are doubtful of the "effective" claim.

No, that is still your invalid conclusion. Parents can be perfectly accepting of the efficacy, just not think it is necessary. Again, do you believe overweight people are doubtful that being fit is better for their health? Dietary advice and healthy food do not come at an extra cost either.

Parents can think it is fine to do it later, or that the pandemic is finished so it is necessary, etc. Fixating only on what you want to believe as if it was automatically true just because of that is nor rational.

This is the CDC's fault as their eroded the public's trust because they misled the public from the beginning.

No misleading, just your personal bias and easily disproved misrepresentations of what was actually being told.

Nobody ever said this was guaranteed to be a single shot vaccine that would protect for life against any variant that would appear.

No vaccine ever has been designed to prevent infection, most are really bad at it, pretending this vaccine was supposed to be different is obviously misrepresenting what vaccines actually are.

Vaccines DO reduce the risk of infection and the risk of transmitting the disease, so there is still value in being vaccinated to reduce the risk also for others.

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Madness.

The only country in the world to authorize the vaccine for toddlers.

Children are at no risk from C19. In many countries Moderna has been restricted to anyone under 30, let alone children.

Utter madness.

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Children are at no risk from C19. In many countries Moderna has been restricted to anyone under 30, let alone children.

Any reference for this? because that is not what the worldwide experts say about it, even if the risk is reduced for children it is still there and children die because of this, vaccine related risk is a tiny fraction in comparison and they help protecting the children.

Madness is to think personal beliefs can disprove the experts in their field that have evidence for their recommendations.

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virusrex always proved that the best fight against misinformation is data, logic and information.

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The vaccine wars are over. Then anti-vaxxers lost and we cleaned up their mess for them.

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How can anyone trust anything the USA says ?

CDC ,FDA and the list goes on

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The best fight against misinformation is data, logic and information

That's complete nonsense.

Clearly illogical and by the way where did you obtain your data and information?

people that assume they are pantomaths that need to be observed logically.

Especially if your logic is based on internet search using Google and Wikipedia.

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Absolutely not.

is any other country even proposing this?

“Fauci admits 'not enough data' to show recommended boosters for 5-year-olds work”

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The vaccine wars are over. Then anti-vaxxers lost and we cleaned up their mess for them.

Oh I thought I can’t travel to my country or go to a concert or enter a public area without being “fully vaccinated”.

yet instead I can do anything I want right now. I don’t even need a negative test anymore much less a vaccination.

meanwhile people with 4 shots somehow keep getting COVID.

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That's complete nonsense.

Correct information is definetely a good tool against misinformation. There is no need to reduce people to data, but there is nothing wrong with getting the best available data for something, then people that want to be logical, rational about their decisions can do it with confidence. Those that regularly choose to be irrational can continue to do it.

“Fauci admits 'not enough data' to show recommended boosters for 5-year-olds work”

Then it is good that boosters are not part of the recommendations for this article, if the first vaccination offers enough protection that is well and good.

meanwhile people with 4 shots somehow keep getting COVID.

And getting a much lower risk of getting complications, hospitalized or die, as intended with the vaccines. There is no problem with a vaccine that is not sterilizing.

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Oh I thought I can’t travel to my country or go to a concert or enter a public area without being “fully vaccinated”. 

yet instead I can do anything I want right now. I don’t even need a negative test anymore much less a vaccination. 

Interesting that is. I remember when vaccine passes and mask mandates were going to be a permanent erosion of rights. Instead, now that most health systems worldwide are less overwhelmed and the current strains of Covid appear to be less of an issue, these mandates are being removed.

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We were guaranteed by the antic vaxx brigade that mandates would NEVER be lifted. Did they lie to us?

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We argued with you for two years that you guys were slowing things down, because if we just vaxxed and masked, we could get rid of all the mandates and everything sooner.

Nope. That’s not how it went. Not at all. We didn’t want to get vaxxed, didn’t get vaxxed. yet all mandates and test and restrictions gone anyway, just disappeared.

so we didn’t need to, you gave up. Because the data can’t justify vaccination and masks as preventing Covid like you said in the beginning.

so why is the US the ONLY country trying to vaccinate babies?

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Nope. That’s not how it went. Not at all. We didn’t want to get vaxxed, didn’t get vaxxed. yet all mandates and test and restrictions gone anyway, just disappeared.

Just like we spent 2 years telling you.

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