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Charges against father of Georgia shooting suspect test emerging legal strategy

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bass4funk

I think both should get the death penalty.

The death penalty for a 14-year-old child would be monstrous which is why it was abolished. The father would be guilty of manslaughter. No death penalty for that.

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Another AR-style weapon was involved. Regular guns are bad enough, but why on earth do people need to own these kinds of weapons?

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I think both should get the death penalty.

I think supporting the death penalty for a 14 year old is something I would expect from the Taliban.

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Another AR-style weapon was involved. Regular guns are bad enough, but why on earth do people need to own these kinds of weapons?

They are the ultimate, must-have cosplay accessory.

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"But this does nothing," she said. "This does nothing to stop school shootings, as egregious as they are. It's a way for police to say they're doing something."

I know we are talking about America here, but it would certainly work on me: If you leave your AR-15 lying unsecured around your house where your mentally unstable, traumatized teenager can get hold of it and shoot someone with it, you'll be held accountable. I'd be locking that thing up tight.

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The mother is already in prison for another offense.

Anyone advocating the death penalty for a child is a monster.

It won't happen nor will he get life in prison without parole.

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He should at the very least get life, the mother as well.

Why the mother? On which charge specifically?

Bear in mind, in case you didn’t know, that the mother had been absent from the family home for some time and was in fact under a court order to have no contact with them.

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Guns R US.

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Has nothing to do with their constitutional rights, relax. I am just saying it would be a good thing if the kid could get the death penalty.

Well, @Bob Fosse has already demolished this, but executing a minor is a violation of that minor's constitutional right under the 8th Amendment. You wanting this minor to be executed equals you supporting the violation of his rights. End of.

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The Constitution does not allow for the execution of a child.

The death penalty for juvenile offenders was banned by the Supreme Court in 2005. See the Roper v. Simmons.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/juveniles/prior-to-roper-v-simmons

Waste of time suggesting something that will never happen.

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The U.S. is the only country in the world where kids as young as 13 have been sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

Related Report

Cruel and Unusual

EJI’s report documents the practice of sentencing 13- and 14-year-old children to die in prison.

https://eji.org/issues/children-in-prison/

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I think both should get the death penalty.

So you support the violation of Constitutional rights.

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I think supporting the death penalty for a 14 year old is something I would expect from the Taliban.

I can live with that.

Shameful.

So you support the violation of Constitutional rights.

Has nothing to do with their constitutional rights, relax. I am just saying it would be a good thing if the kid could get the death penalty.

Oooh now it’s a ‘hypothetical’ (which you don’t deal in, remember?) after only yesterday learning that the death penalty for minors was abolished in The US.

Nice try.

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Why the mother? On which charge specifically?

She shouldn’t be anywhere in society.

Again, what is the charge?

“Being a terrible parent” deserves a life sentence?

14 year olds should be executed?

Sounds like Iran, Saudi, or China.

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bass4funk,

You're wrong, but fair enough. In the, probably vain, hope of this discussion not being shut down, I'll leave it there.

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Yeah, I really don't want to hear lectures from any lib about ignoring the Constitution, that is just an argument they will never win, ever.

Your exhibited repeatedly flawed understanding of the US Constitution will not be winning you any arguments, ever.

All the “across the pond, libs, the left, blah blah blahs” in the world won’t help you.

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Life with no parole for both of them. Then get working on passing Georgia gun control laws. Kemp won’t do anything, boot him out.

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—but executing a minor is a violation of that minor's constitutional right under the 8th Amendment. 

I understand, but I still think he should get the death penalty,

Sounds like you have little regard for basic human rights.

Do you think the GOP should work toward scrapping the 8th Amendment, or that states should simply put the middle finger to the 8th and execute 14-year-olds?

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therefore he should pay the ultimate price IMHO.

From what age do you think the death penalty should be applied? Or should there be no age limit?

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Punish them all..

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Sounds like you have little regard for basic human rights. 

I have regard for basic human rights, he didn't though

Do you think the GOP should work toward scrapping the 8th Amendment, or that states should simply put the middle finger to the 8th and execute 14-year-olds?

Hey, now there's a thought right there....

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So much care and concern for the 14 year old murderer. How about asking the dead kids parents and relatives of the dead teachers what they think a suitable punishment should be. And yes, sentences for crimes are punishments.

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I think supporting the death penalty for a 14 year old is something I would expect from the Taliban.

I can live with that.

The death penalty for a 14-year-old child would be monstrous which is why it was abolished.

It should be considered.

The father would be guilty of manslaughter. No death penalty for that.

He should at the very least get life, the mother as well.

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So you support the violation of Constitutional rights.

Has nothing to do with their constitutional rights, relax. I am just saying it would be a good thing if the kid could get the death penalty.

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The mother is already in prison for another offense.

Great!

Anyone advocating the death penalty for a child is a monster.

I guess, I am a proud monster and unapologetic

It won't happen nor will he get life in prison without parole.

That’s on them, personally, I don’t care. They have to live with it, I don’t, but if this kid at least gets life and never gets to see and feel the sun on his skin, that’s a plus.

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Shameful.

Not for me.

Oooh now it’s a ‘hypothetical’ (which you don’t deal in, remember?) after only yesterday learning that the death penalty for minors was abolished in The US.

Nice try.

Not nice try, he won’t get out, ever. So that’s good, I’m happy, I just wish he would have gotten the death penalty. You take the good and you take the bad.

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Why the mother? On which charge specifically?

She shouldn’t be anywhere in society.

Bear in mind, in case you didn’t know, that the mother had been absent from the family home for some time and was in fact under a court order to have no contact with them.

Even better

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I think both should get the death penalty.

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Again, what is the charge? 

With her lengthy crime record, she shouldn’t be on the streets.

“Being a terrible parent” deserves a life sentence?

In this case, yes.

14 year olds should be executed?

If they indiscriminately kill innocent people, absolutely.

Sounds like Iran, Saudi, or China.

I see

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Well, @Bob Fosse has already demolished this,

In some fantasy dream? When is the guy ever right?

but executing a minor is a violation of that minor's constitutional right under the 8th Amendment.

I understand, but I still think he should get the death penalty, if anyone is deserving of it, it is this monster.

You wanting this minor to be executed equals you supporting the violation of his rights. End of.

I don't care; I think the kid should pay the ultimate price, and if you don't like what I am saying or even my position on the case, Oh, well.

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Your exhibited repeatedly flawed understanding of the US Constitution

No misunderstanding, not sure what you are murmuring about again

will not be winning you any arguments, ever. 

And yet, you continue to get blown away, imagine that.

All the “across the pond, libs, the left, blah blah blahs” in the world won’t help you.

Believe me when I tell you, I don't need squat from any lib. Lol

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